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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Scout26 on May 15, 2017, 05:03:57 AM
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Are dropping like stones.
Got another CDNN e-mail today.
DPMS complete rifle (16" barrel) with flip-up sights and whole bunch of extras $399 (after rebate)
Colt M4A3 16" Patrolman (A3 removable carry handle with A2 front sight) $499 (after $150 rebate)
Complete uppers with lower parts kits from $389
I'm beginning to hear a giant sucking sound on my checking account...
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At the last show, multiple vendors had Ruger ARs for less than $600 (closer to $500).
Cabelas in this area has Anderson lowers for $50.
Chris
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I've seen builders kits in the $329 range recently. Less than $400, all in, easy.
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You can thank trump.
I talked to a friend that works for springfield armory this weekend. He said they were gping crazy with orders and production anticipating president Hillary. With trump winning, the market has cooled considerably.
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At the last show, multiple vendors had Ruger ARs for less than $600 (closer to $500).
Cabelas in this area has Anderson lowers for $50.
Chris
A local gun shop has been advertising Ruger AR's for $499 for the last couple months.
If I didn't already have too many 223 AR's, I would get one or two.
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Sales of just about all things gun related have hit a 9 year low.
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Sales of just about all things gun related have hit a 9 year low.
Yes, ammo prices are attractive right now.
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Are dropping like stones.
Got another CDNN e-mail today.
DPMS complete rifle (16" barrel) with flip-up sights and whole bunch of extras $399 (after rebate)
Colt M4A3 16" Patrolman (A3 removable carry handle with A2 front sight) $499 (after $150 rebate)
Complete uppers with lower parts kits from $389
I'm beginning to hear a giant sucking sound on my checking account...
That's about what I imagined the wholesale value of these rifles were worth all along.... with the expiration of the AWB in 2004, there was just about enough demand to keep the prices high until Obama took office, which only kept the demand up.
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You can thank trump.
I talked to a friend that works for springfield armory this weekend. He said they were gping crazy with orders and production anticipating president Hillary. With trump winning, the market has cooled considerably.
Yep. They expected a surge just like when Obama got elected. Even though he didn't really touch anything firearm related. With AWB being a 'signature' Clinton achievement, they should they'd have a glorious "pre-ban" surging prices. Now there's an insane glut. Doesn't help that everyone and their brother makes their own AR's now. Market is saturated like no tomorrow.
I expect a number of shops to merge, close or get out of making their own AR's. There cannot be enough margin to make it worth while.
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Yes, ammo prices are attractive right now.
And it stores well, so buy it now.
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And it stores well, so buy it now.
My problem is I end up storing it in the berm at the range and my spent brass bucket.
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That reminds me I have a lower, upper and BCG.....
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That reminds me I have a lower, upper and BCG.....
Yeah, I have a few, too, but I don't want another AR right now. Maybe a PCC.
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Yeah, I have a few, too, but I don't want another AR right now. Maybe a PCC.
I've only got one AR...I really should build me an SBR
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I've only got one AR...I really should build me an SBR
Yes you should. And one in .300Blk with a dedicated suppressor.
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What's the best value flat top upper at the moment?
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What's the best value flat top upper at the moment?
Probably whatever PSA has on sale this weekend. I can't say that for certain, but it'll be close.
Otherwise Arfcom has a deals/sale thread in their AR15 section.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/496750_LOOKING-FOR-CHEAP-PARTS--Post-deals-here---READ-OP-BEFORE-POSTING-.html
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What's the best value flat top upper at the moment?
Just the receiver? or an assembled upper?
For just the receiver whoever has an Anderson on sale this weekend.
If you want something assembled, best value is going to depend on what you're doing with it,and what components you want. Absolutely cheapest firearm that will function is probably one of PSA's daily deals. Or what's on sale at Primary Arms. They have some Radical Firearms uppers under $200.
=D Looking at their site, Primary Arms will also give you a free upper and lower receiver if you buy a Giessele SSA Trigger. "Buy our trigger an you can have the gun to put it in for free."
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=D Looking at their site, Primary Arms will also give you a free upper and lower receiver if you buy a Giessele SSA Trigger. "Buy our trigger an you can have the gun to put it in for free."
"...some assembly required..."
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Just the receiver? or an assembled upper?
For just the receiver whoever has an Anderson on sale this weekend.
If you want something assembled, best value is going to depend on what you're doing with it,and what components you want. Absolutely cheapest firearm that will function is probably one of PSA's daily deals. Or what's on sale at Primary Arms. They have some Radical Firearms uppers under $200.
=D Looking at their site, Primary Arms will also give you a free upper and lower receiver if you buy a Giessele SSA Trigger. "Buy our trigger an you can have the gun to put it in for free."
Either works.
http://www.primaryarms.com/fu16-5-56m4-12fgs
Definitely works! I'm not sure how many AR15s I could assemble out of the stuff on hand but at least 3.
Now if only someone could make decently priced Sig mags. I prefer to have a minimum of 40 mags for anything I fire regularly. Easy for an Uzi or AR, at under $10 per, even for OEM or top tier.. At $40 or more, that's not practical for my Sigs.
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Just the receiver? or an assembled upper?
For just the receiver whoever has an Anderson on sale this weekend.
If you want something assembled, best value is going to depend on what you're doing with it,and what components you want. Absolutely cheapest firearm that will function is probably one of PSA's daily deals. Or what's on sale at Primary Arms. They have some Radical Firearms uppers under $200.
=D Looking at their site, Primary Arms will also give you a free upper and lower receiver if you buy a Giessele SSA Trigger. "Buy our trigger an you can have the gun to put it in for free."
I recently put the Geissele SSA-E trigger in a precision rifle I put together for my son. Pricey, but worth it. The trigger replaced a RRA NM trigger- there is absolutely no comparison between the triggers. The RRA will probably go into one of my carbines.
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http://www.primaryarms.com/fu16-5-56m4-12fgs
I have that upper. I like it and would buy it again. I did change the gas block to an adjust able one as I intend to get the reciprocating parts as light as possible on this gun. The factory one worked fine though.
Chris
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Either works.
http://www.primaryarms.com/fu16-5-56m4-12fgs
Definitely works! I'm not sure how many AR15s I could assemble out of the stuff on hand but at least 3.
Now if only someone could make decently priced Sig mags. I prefer to have a minimum of 40 mags for anything I fire regularly. Easy for an Uzi or AR, at under $10 per, even for OEM or top tier.. At $40 or more, that's not practical for my Sigs.
What model Sigs? The Sig pro shop often has a box of used mags at a discount. I can grab some next time I them there.
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I have that upper. I like it and would buy it again. I did change the gas block to an adjust able one as I intend to get the reciprocating parts as light as possible on this gun. The factory one worked fine though.
Chris
Good to know! I was a bit worried as it was a bit too good looking of a deal.
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I just bought an AR with full Magpul fittings for $499. Hard to pass up the prices right now--I don't think they can get much lower.
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/195436
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cdnnsports.com has smoking deals on complete AR and Complete Uppers with lower parts kits (just add receiver, and those can be had for dirt cheap also.)
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I guess now is the time to go for my usual pattern of buying high and selling low.
I have a few rifles that have matching uppers and lowers that are the same manufacturer, but were bought separately. I have no idea how low I would have to go to sell them right now. RRA, Yankee Hill, and LMT are not bad brands, but it is hard to compete with $499.
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Problem is, I have an AR and don't feel the need for another. I guess I could get a pistol AR and put a brace on it, but past that I don't see the need for another.
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I have an upper lower and BCG...easy enough to build from there. Barrel is the only "expensive" part left for a build.
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Same boat here in terms of not needing another one. I enjoy building and tweaking them, but one working model is enough.
That said, a fixed stock model in a big bore cartridge could be fun. However, I don't want to add another caliber to my list.
Chris
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Don't need another AR but sure do wish we could get XM193 back down to $5-ish a box.
Brad
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Don't need another AR but sure do wish we could get XM193 back down to $5-ish a box.
Brad
Getting close.
http://www.selwayarmory.com/prvi-partizan-5-56x45mm-55-gr-nato-m193-full-metal-jacket-case-of-1-000.html
http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/556/
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Getting close.
http://www.selwayarmory.com/prvi-partizan-5-56x45mm-55-gr-nato-m193-full-metal-jacket-case-of-1-000.html
http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/556/
I know about Prvi ammo but have never personally used any. Decent stuff?
Brad
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I know about Prvi ammo but have never personally used any. Decent stuff?
Brad
I haven't used it a lot, but what I have used was reliable. I still have some of their 7.5X55. It works, but not near as accurate as the Swiss surplus.
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I like their 75gr match ammo in 223. My 1:7 twist AR loves it. But it's about $10/box.
Chris
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I know about Prvi ammo but have never personally used any. Decent stuff?
Brad
I like it for range use. Never tried precision with it. If it meets M193 spec, it must be good enough.
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Today's CDNN e-mail:
DPMS Oracle 16" 1:9 twist chrome lined barrel. A3 Flattop with flip up sights and A2 Birdcage flashhider in 5.56. $399
Colt 6920 with 1:7 twist barrel, Flattop with A2 falshhider in 5.56 $799
At this rate, by next week, they'll be giving them away with a full-up of 10 gallons or more at your local gas station....
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Today's CDNN e-mail:
DPMS Oracle 16" 1:9 twist chrome lined barrel. A3 Flattop with flip up sights and A2 Birdcage flashhider in 5.56. $399
Colt 6920 with 1:7 twist barrel, Flattop with A2 falshhider in 5.56 $799
At this rate, by next week, they'll be giving them away with a full-up of 10 gallons or more at your local gas station....
If you see this deal, please let us know (after you get yours of course).
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If you see this deal, please let us know (after you get yours of course).
Would it be posted here or in the gas prices thread?
Chris
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Would it be posted here or in the gas prices thread?
Chris
Yes.
Today's CMP e-mail. Final call on Greek HXP M2 Ball .30-06. $144 for 180 rounds. And the bottom continues to fall out of the AR market. CDNN had two different .22LR ARs - an HK for $349 and a Colt for $299.