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Title: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 06, 2017, 10:41:45 AM
So everything coming out on this Weinstein guy is making him look ten times worse than anything Bill Cosby was accused of. He also gave millions and millions to various liberal politicians.

I forgot which ones, but some not so well known Democratic congressmen have apparently donated the money he gave them to charity. Good for them - I may disagree with their politics, but I very much respect their ethics.

No word yet if Hillary, the Obama's, or loudmouth Kamala Harris are returning the money he gave them.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/10/06/well-well-well-what-do-we-have-here-guess-how-much-harvey-weinstein-donated-to-kamala-harris/


Oh yeah, tangent: Weinstein is claiming this is not his fault, that he was "a child of the 60's". So to make amends, he's, "dropping everything and devoting all his time to taking down the NRA."
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Fly320s on October 06, 2017, 11:22:19 AM
I've read a few things accusing Weinstein of sexual harassment, but I haven't seen any rape allegations.  Are people claiming he is a rapist, too?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: AJ Dual on October 06, 2017, 11:54:00 AM
I've read a few things accusing Weinstein of sexual harassment, but I haven't seen any rape allegations.  Are people claiming he is a rapist, too?

It's a "coming out of the woodwork" kind of tsunami, much like the Cosby allegations, potentially bigger, and it's still in the early stages of the media cycle. The NV shooting, and his huge lib donor status is just slowing the MSM's roll on it is all.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on October 06, 2017, 02:48:50 PM
1.   I thought he was gay. 

2.   Wasn't he going to make a movie a couple years back that was suppose to take down the NRA ??

3.   Oh. Hypocrisy thy name is Liberal !!!
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 06, 2017, 06:23:24 PM
"I apologize for victimizing women. I will atone for my sins by making sure women are disarmed. You're welcome."
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 09, 2017, 02:16:12 PM
Did anyone else hear that part where his (former) lawyer was "coaching" him with things like "You can't talk to your female work colleagues in the same way you talk to other men"?

Um, I thought that gender-binary stuff was bad. I thought we weren't supposed to see the difference between male and female. Or is this another one of those exceptions, like when one of the presidential candidates is female, and you're supposed to vote for the girl one?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 09, 2017, 05:57:24 PM
I've read a few things accusing Weinstein of sexual harassment, but I haven't seen any rape allegations.  Are people claiming he is a rapist, too?

I believe that he is no more a rapist than Roman Polanski.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: lee n. field on October 09, 2017, 07:18:19 PM
1.   I thought he was gay. 

2.   Wasn't he going to make a movie a couple years back that was suppose to take down the NRA ??

3.   Oh. Hypocrisy thy name is Liberal !!!

confusing him with Harvey Fierstein?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 09, 2017, 07:44:15 PM
Kind of makes you wonder just who he wronged to get the full wrath of the libtardnation...

And, it does expose a pile-o-hypocrisy from some of the womens piling on. Ashley Judd was ready to have Trump burned at the stake over rude locker room talk but she hadn't said a word about Weinstein's actual behavior with her.
 
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: grampster on October 09, 2017, 09:12:51 PM
So far no rapes....unless masturbating into a flower pot is considered a deflowering. :old: :rofl:
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 09, 2017, 09:27:24 PM
On the schadenfreude side, a whole bunch of die hard Hillary fans are dissing her for $$$ remaining $$$ silent $$$ on Weinstein. $$$
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 09, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
Twitter (https://twitter.com/krystalball/status/917431715345219584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fjacobb-38%2F2017%2F10%2F09%2Fmakes-us-all-look-like-hypocrites-dem-commentator-blasts-hillary-for-weinstein-silence%2F)
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Clinton received hundreds of thousands from Weinstein in campaign & foundation $. If she stays silent she makes us all look like hypocrites

So you're saying Hillary Clinton was finally honest about something?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: K Frame on October 10, 2017, 07:52:50 AM
Of course he wants to take down the NRA. Under no circumstances does he want women to be able to defend themselves against him.

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: AJ Dual on October 10, 2017, 11:08:48 AM
So far no rapes....unless masturbating into a flower pot is considered a deflowering. :old: :rofl:

If by "rape" you mean a naive woman who didn't understand the quid-pro-quo of being on a date with him... she locked up, froze, or went into a disassociative state, and did not want to have sex with Weinstein, but didn't fight or say "no", and feels victimized... I would wager a week's pay the answer is "yes". At least once in all those years it most likely happened at least once.

If by "rape" you mean the woman said "no", fought back, and Weinstein had to overpower her... probably not.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 10, 2017, 12:08:13 PM
And.... it's rape accusations.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories)

And I'd still like to know who he pissed off that is higher up the food chain than him that let this shitstorm loose.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Kingcreek on October 10, 2017, 12:45:04 PM
Bill Clinton defended him saying "Harv is just a normal guy, didn't do anything I wouldn't do!"
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: TechMan on October 10, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
Oh and he groped an Italian model/actress.  Manhattan DA had more than enough evidence (including an audio recording of Wienerstein admitting to groping her) and refused to prosecute.  2 weeks later Manhattan DA gets money from Wienerstein's lawyers.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/10/manhattan-da-cyrus-vance-under-fire-after-bombshell-harvey-weinstein-audio-released/ (https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/10/manhattan-da-cyrus-vance-under-fire-after-bombshell-harvey-weinstein-audio-released/)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on October 10, 2017, 01:38:26 PM
And.... it's rape accusations.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories)

And I'd still like to know who he pissed off that is higher up the food chain than him that let this shitstorm loose.


But every little thing from "Anonymous sources" about Trump hits the front page without confirmation....

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This has been an open secret to many in Hollywood and beyond, but previous attempts by many publications, including The New Yorker, to investigate and publish the story over the years fell short of the demands of journalistic evidence.

All they had to do was follow-up on the rumours, and ask some of the victims, whose names were whispered around.   And since it was "an open secret", it would have been easy to prove, but you, the media, allowed a sexual predator to continue to victimize women because he's a big contributor to liberal causes and politicians...

Hypocrites.  Remember that all women claiming to be abused have the right to be heard.  (per Hillary)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 10, 2017, 07:42:20 PM

I forgot which ones, but some not so well known Democratic congressmen have apparently donated the money he gave them to charity. Good for them - I may disagree with their politics, but I very much respect their ethics.


One of those was Connecticut's Richard Blumenthal. He's the sleazeball who lied about his military service for many years. He has no ethics.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 10, 2017, 07:46:54 PM

https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/569677514559221760
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 10, 2017, 10:30:39 PM
I forgot which ones, but some not so well known Democratic congressmen have apparently donated the money he gave them to charity. Good for them - I may disagree with their politics, but I very much respect their ethics.


1. They may very well have known about Weinstein's dirt, to say nothing of the possibility they were black-mailing him.

2. They may have given up the money for the sake of ethics, or they may have done it purely to avoid looking bad.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: MechAg94 on October 10, 2017, 10:49:20 PM
https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2017/10/10/my-heart-breaks-for-all-the-women-harvey-weinsteins-wife-says-she-is-leaving-her-husband/
His wife is leaving him.   =)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 10, 2017, 11:04:34 PM
https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2017/10/10/my-heart-breaks-for-all-the-women-harvey-weinsteins-wife-says-she-is-leaving-her-husband/
His wife is leaving him.   =)

Yeah, I'm sure she's over-joyed.  =|
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Chester32141 on October 11, 2017, 06:53:30 AM
I read the timing of the release of the story was to deflect attention from the most recent Project Veritas video released this week of the Times' video gatekeeper .... also Harvey is no longer in a position financially to donate as he once did ... I've read that the politicians returning his contributions are donating them to liberal groups that donate to Democrats ...
 ;/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RevDisk on October 11, 2017, 08:58:39 AM
http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-harvey-weinstein-out-20171008-story.html

It's not exactly a secret that Hollywood executives, directors, producers, etc have often demanded sexual services in exchange for the possibility of favorable placement. Or that denying such demands would lead to being blackballed from the industry. I doubt that many of them beat the ever loving tar out of their victims. They've relied on their position, money and friends in politics, media and other corporations to maintain their crimes. They know that. They know that keeping to the correct political line, donating to the correct politicians, making the correct films, etc will keep them in a position of power, which they are knowingly allowed to exploit. Unless the floodgates open, the victims are at an individual huge disadvantage. In this case, Weinstein paid off a NYC district attorney with a measly $10k in exchange for getting charges dropped. Following the 'correct' steps shielded him for decades. I've seen plenty of victims who individually accused certain folks of crimes and get screamed down. Treated worse than the offender, certainly.

The same 'correctness' means when the fall happens, it is like falling into a piranha tank.

Directors and producers who flat out KNEW what Weinstein was doing will now beat their chests, rend their clothes and tear their hair. Journalists, prosecutors and politicians who directly covered up his crimes will publicly thunder, screaming how could this have happened. All will decry their own virtue, and shriek at the heretic who obviously they don't know, never knew and certainly never ever assisted in his heresy. I assume he'll be ritually thrown into a volcano. Or pay off the victim, be given the ceremonial slap on the wrist and retire to relative comfort and obscurity.

$1 says same thing happens in the publishing world.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 11, 2017, 09:21:13 AM


Directors and producers who flat out KNEW what Weinstein was doing will now beat their chests, rend their clothes and tear their hair. Journalists, prosecutors and politicians who directly covered up his crimes will publicly thunder, screaming how could this have happened. All will decry their own virtue, and shriek at the heretic who obviously they don't know, never knew and certainly never ever assisted in his heresy. I assume he'll be ritually thrown into a volcano. Or pay off the victim, be given the ceremonial slap on the wrist and retire to relative comfort and obscurity.

$1 says same thing happens in the publishing world.


Yup. You know 90% of the bigger names in both Hollywood and DC that are now outraged, not only knew about this stuff, but up until a week ago were laughing it up about, "That Harvey - what  a pip! Ha ha ha!"

I've hated Weinstein and his big, arrogant mouth on the political front since long before this current scandal. It infuriates me that I now almost sort of have to be sorry for the guy from the perspective of all these people that were okay with him prior to it not being okay to be okay with him suddenly coming out with their famous outrage against him.

A person should be held accountable and punished for crimes, but should be punished fairly. Weinstein should be fairy judged and punished. The evidence seems to be concrete, but the hypocrisy of all the high dollar celebrities and politicians who are only coming out because it's the popular thing to do now is disgusting. Where were all these feminists when Weinstein was forcing himself on farm girls from Kansas during their first script reading? Why was loudmouth Gwynith Paltrow okay with putting up with him because "...I had a movie coming out."? If you're a wealthy feminist who's out there going after people that don't affect you financially, why aren't you also doing the right thing and going after someone that might lose you a little of your millions? All the "famous" celebrity feminists should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RevDisk on October 11, 2017, 10:12:31 AM

https://twitter.com/terrycrews

Apparently, some exec even publicly assaulted Terry Crew. And Mr. Crew is still unwilling to go on record with the guy's name. Mr. Crew likely could have beaten the guy to death on the spot. And yet... years later, he is STILL too afraid to go the last mile and give up the guy's name. So, the guy probably has, is and will victimize more people. The offender knew what he was doing. He was demonstrating his power over other people. He got away with sexually assaulting someone far stronger than himself, probably to prove to himself how powerful he was. 

Not that I blame Mr. Crew. The exec is probably donating to the mayor, the prosecutors, all the elected judges. The cops know the score. They're not going to take some actor's side against their bosses' golf buddy. Even if they did, the prosecutors in Hollywood are practically selected for their ability to look the other way.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 11, 2017, 04:29:42 PM
Bears repeating:

(https://www.brainyquote.com/photos_tr/en/a/abrahamlincoln/101343/abrahamlincoln1-2x.jpg)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 11, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
Oh, snap.

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It took Hillary abt 5 minutes to blame NRA for madman's rampage, but 5 days to sorta-kinda blame Harvey Weinstein 4 his sexually assaults.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/22166/kellyanne-conway-roasts-hillary-clintons-amanda-prestigiacomo
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: JN01 on October 11, 2017, 06:33:05 PM
I find it curious that Hollyweird is so hard on Weinstein while they want to bestow sainthood on fugitive pedophile scumbag Roman Polanski.  Guess it's OK when you do it to a commoner.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RevDisk on October 12, 2017, 12:10:08 PM
I find it curious that Hollyweird is so hard on Weinstein while they want to bestow sainthood on fugitive pedophile scumbag Roman Polanski.  Guess it's OK when you do it to a commoner.

Because Weinstein's rape and assault victims are 'important' people and Polanski was raping a kid.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 12, 2017, 01:23:04 PM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22199/hypocrisy-academy-may-vote-remove-weinstein-while-paul-bois

Weinstein may be kicked out of the "academy," while Polanski and Cosby remain.

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 13, 2017, 02:28:15 PM


(https://i.imgur.com/PTqwf4J.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/EUoN4MY.jpg)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: MechAg94 on October 13, 2017, 05:48:16 PM
I have a feeling there are a number of these executives in that industry that have done the same or worse.  I imagine some of those celebrities are embarrassed at what they did, allowed to happen, or witnessed. 

Someone else mentioned this on another thread:  Think of all the rumors you have ever heard about obscene or disgusting things happening in Hollywood and imagine they might all be true.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 13, 2017, 06:15:32 PM
It has been kind of enjoyable watching the libtardz turn on one of their own.
The collateral damage to some of the other bastions of moral authority on the left has also been a tasty side dish.
Let the feeding frenzy continue.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: TechMan on October 13, 2017, 09:33:44 PM
It has been kind of enjoyable watching the libtardz turn on one of their own.
The collateral damage to some of the other bastions of moral authority on the left has also been a tasty side dish.
Let the feeding frenzy continue.
I am with you let's bring out the  [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 13, 2017, 10:07:15 PM
Interesting.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/13/pro-trump-artist-kaya-jones-puts-hollywood-on-notice-oh-yes-i-kept-a-journal-with-timelines/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 13, 2017, 11:35:09 PM
So Hillary Clinton's new talking point regarding Weinstein: "Trump!"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/13/hillary-clinton-calls-trump-sexual-assaulter-in-bbc-interview-but-says-bills-behavior-in-past.html
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: LadySmith on October 14, 2017, 05:15:42 AM
Because Weinstein's rape and assault victims are 'important' people and Polanski was raping a kid.

I really, really hope that Hollywood's pedophile power structure topples next.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on October 14, 2017, 06:00:02 AM
I really, really hope that Hollywood's pedophile power structure topples next.


^^^^^This.  I want to see those bastards frog march into courthouses in orange jumpsuits.  Corey Feldman tried to get the story out on The View back in 2011.  Babba Wawa shut him down.   I hope she burns in Hell.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/10/13/flashback-watch-barbara-walters-shame-corey-feldman-for-speaking-about-hollywood-abuse/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Viking on October 14, 2017, 08:03:59 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Secret
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 14, 2017, 08:19:47 AM
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On Feb. 28, 2016, the entertainment industry gave the Oscar for best picture to "Spotlight," a fictionalized version of The Boston Globe's reporting of sexual abuse and its cover-up within the Catholic Church in Boston. The self-congratulation looks amazing now, after the exposure of decades of alleged harassment, and perhaps even rape, by Hollywood heavyweight Harvey Weinstein.

"This film gave a voice to survivors, and this Oscar amplifies that voice, which we hope will become a choir that will resonate all the way to the Vatican," said "Spotlight" producer Michael Sugar. "Pope Francis, it's time to protect the children and restore the faith."

http://www.dailywire.com/news/22248/bozell-graham-hollywood-moralists-exposed-l-brent-bozell-iii
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 14, 2017, 10:34:17 AM
^^^^^This.  I want to see those bastards frog march into courthouses in orange jumpsuits.  Corey Feldman tried to get the story out on The View back in 2011.  Babba Wawa shut him down.   I hope she burns in Hell.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/10/13/flashback-watch-barbara-walters-shame-corey-feldman-for-speaking-about-hollywood-abuse/

You beat me to posting that link. Until I saw it, I had forgotten that years ago he was trying to tell everyone about the old guys who go after young boys in Hollyweird, and everyone  in that industry, as well as the MSM, dismissed him as a nut.

He is a weird guy, but I can't help but wonder if some of that comes from being diddled as a boy by the Weinsteins in Hollywood.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 15, 2017, 08:13:43 PM
So I agree with the gist of what Woody Allen said here, but he probably shouldn't have been the one to say it.

I could easily see this turn into a quite overblown feminist fad where a guy could get in trouble for looking at someone the wrong way.


https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/15/woody-allen-hopes-a-harvey-weinstein-witch-hunt-wont-prevent-him-from-winking-at-young-women/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 16, 2017, 07:25:43 AM
So this actress wrote about Hollywood's sexual abuse problem, including some advice about how she takes steps to avoid it. She even whined about how unfair it is that women have to "police" themselves. It didn't stop morons from grousing about "victim-blaming."

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/mayim-bialik-says-harvey-weinstein-proves-upside-to-not-being-sexy/

That's not surprising, but this is the part that intrigued me.

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Another Twitter user wrote, “Mayim Bialik missed the perfect opportunity to call out men in Hollywood. Instead she blames women.”

For one thing, who needs an "opportunity" to bash men? Celebrities do that whenever they want to. Secondly, it's apparently OK to blame men for Hollywood's cultural rot, but not women.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 16, 2017, 10:27:08 AM
So this actress wrote about Hollywood's sexual abuse problem, including some advice about how she takes steps to avoid it. She even whined about how unfair it is that women have to "police" themselves. It didn't stop morons from grousing about "victim-blaming."


Which is kinda funny (in a not funny way) when you see what's happening to Dana Loesch right now. Being doxxed, private phone number tracked down, called and told she would be "raped to death" among other things. Forced to move out of her home for her kids safety. Progressive response? "She has it coming".

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/15/threatened-to-rape-me-to-death-dana-loesch-shares-some-of-the-vile-threats-shes-received-to-the-metoo-hashtag/

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 16, 2017, 11:19:06 AM
Too true.

I should explain why I said Bialik was "whining." I'm referring to her complaint that women shouldn't have to police themselves. Curtailing certain behaviors is just a part of life, for both sexes. For a woman, it might be watching what she wears. For a man, like Mike Pence, it might be avoiding innocent situations that might be taken the wrong way.

Also, when Bialik talks about precautions she takes as a woman, they say it's bad for women. When Pence talks about precautions he takes as a man, they also say it's bad for women. Funny how that works.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: grampster on October 16, 2017, 11:28:23 AM
My big wonderment about Weinstein is the pronunciation of his name.  The last 3 letters of wein and stein are spelled the same way.  Should it not be Weensteen or Winestine?    Inquiring minds wish to know.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: makattak on October 16, 2017, 11:34:01 AM
My big wonderment about Weinstein is the pronunciation of his name.  The last 3 letters of wein and stein are spelled the same way.  Should it not be Weensteen or Winestine?    Inquiring minds wish to know.

I've had that thought multiple times over the past week.

Come on you German speakers, explain yourselves. German isn't a language like English where things aren't supposed to make sense.

(Yes, I know he's Jewish, but that's definitely not Hebrew.)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 16, 2017, 11:42:48 AM
I've had that thought multiple times over the past week.

Come on you German speakers, explain yourselves. German isn't a language like English where things aren't supposed to make sense.

(Yes, I know he's Jewish, but that's definitely not Hebrew.)

AFAIK, it's just his family's americanization of the pronunciation. My name sounds completely different when pronounced as it should be in German. Not that we "americanized" the name - it's just how Americans pronounce it. My first name should be pronounced similarly to "Bane" as the German version of Ben (in fact, specifically Southern German pronunciation), but I am quite happy to use the American version while in America.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 16, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
My big wonderment about Weinstein is the pronunciation of his name.  The last 3 letters of wein and stein are spelled the same way.  Should it not be Weensteen or Winestine?    Inquiring minds wish to know.

Does the rule against nicknames apply if it isn't a political figure?

If not then I'd go with Swinestein.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 16, 2017, 12:08:13 PM
I just stick with what I was taught in that one year of highschool Deutsch - if the i comes after the e (in a diphthong), it's "i" as in "ice." So "wine-stine."

(I apologize for using the word "thong" in a discussion of Harvey Wine-stine.)


I'm sorry if this has been posted already, but it was just too funny for me to pass up. Guess who gave the max amount to Clinton's legal defense fund, during the impeachment?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/starr082298.htm
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Hollywood was quick to come to the president's aid. Among the 62 donors giving the maximum $10,000 were performers and directors such as Tom Hanks, Barbra Streisand, Michael Douglas, Ron Howard, Norman Lear, Steven Spielberg and Kate Capshaw-Spielberg as well as studio executives Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen, Harvey Weinstein and Bud Yorkin.

Not aging well.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: 230RN on October 16, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
"I just stick with what I was taught in that one year of highschool Deutsch - if the i comes after the e (in a diphthong), it's "i" as in "ice." So "wine-stine."

Yeah, I learned it was pronounced like the second vowel.  Thus "stein" is stine, and "stien" is steen.

"Vienna" is "veen," more or less, in German, "das Wien."

Similarly, "wienerschnitzel."
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 16, 2017, 02:04:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxxSIX3fmmo
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: just Warren on October 16, 2017, 02:53:59 PM
I wonder how many of these feminist politicians (and actresses) were part of the mockery brigade when it came out that Mike Pence won't visit with women without another person there.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on October 16, 2017, 04:13:14 PM

My big wonderment about Weinstein is the pronunciation of his name.  The last 3 letters of wein and stein are spelled the same way.  Should it not be Weensteen or Winestine?    Inquiring minds wish to know.

I've had that thought multiple times over the past week.

Come on you German speakers, explain yourselves. German isn't a language like English where things aren't supposed to make sense.

(Yes, I know he's Jewish, but that's definitely not Hebrew.)
AFAIK, it's just his family's americanization of the pronunciation. My name sounds completely different when pronounced as it should be in German. Not that we "americanized" the name - it's just how Americans pronounce it. My first name should be pronounced similarly to "Bane" as the German version of Ben (in fact, specifically Southern German pronunciation), but I am quite happy to use the American version while in America.

My mother's maiden name is 13 letter German word/name (very, very, very uncommon).  If you looked at tried to pronounce it, you'd choke.  (My one cousin was simply called "Alphabet" while in the Navy.  :laugh: :laugh:)   However, it has been bastardized/Americanized into something that had the Germans (with the exact same last name) scratching their heads at when they came to visit a few years back for her hometown's 175th Anniversary of it's founding.



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English doesn't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 16, 2017, 07:18:18 PM
I wonder how many of these feminist politicians (and actresses) were part of the mockery brigade when it came out that Mike Pence won't visit with women without another person there.


Allow myself to quote, uh, myself.
Also, when Bialik talks about precautions she takes as a woman, they say it's bad for women. When Pence talks about precautions he takes as a man, they also say it's bad for women. Funny how that works.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on October 17, 2017, 12:23:55 AM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22450158_1518326211615326_5628270798565926434_n.jpg?oh=079356a2c0697f995d5c42cefb2b9d81&oe=5A686C09)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on October 17, 2017, 12:39:10 AM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22405575_1685693788170258_3073564020031963253_n.jpg?oh=3d5e3a74e6fe691fdfb31b6672ad1128&oe=5A77C5FD)


Actually it looks like they are all auditioning for Weinstein....
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 17, 2017, 12:40:20 AM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22450158_1518326211615326_5628270798565926434_n.jpg?oh=079356a2c0697f995d5c42cefb2b9d81&oe=5A686C09)


Every time I think she can't get more laughable, she does.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 17, 2017, 06:45:02 AM
Does the rule against nicknames apply if it isn't a political figure?

If not then I'd go with Swinestein.


Many, many years ago there was a television commercial for Mogen David wine, featuring one Rabbi Steinstein. They made it into humor by asking him how to pronounce his name. The answer?

"Stinesteen? Steenstine? Who cares?"
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Jamisjockey on October 17, 2017, 08:00:11 AM
I wonder how many of these feminist politicians (and actresses) were part of the mockery brigade when it came out that Mike Pence won't visit with women without another person there.

Or called Sarah Palin a *wow such a strong word to use, check your anger at the door*?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Fly320s on October 17, 2017, 08:25:41 AM

Every time I think she can't get more laughable, she does.

She?  That is a guy, right?  Who is it?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 17, 2017, 09:06:17 AM
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/10/16/awkward-moveon-org-establishes-new-definition-of-chutzpah-by-supporting-this-hashtag/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: dogmush on October 17, 2017, 09:07:57 AM
She?  That is a guy, right?  Who is it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Dunham

However, reading that entire page might actually make you dumber.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Viking on October 17, 2017, 03:54:50 PM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22450158_1518326211615326_5628270798565926434_n.jpg?oh=079356a2c0697f995d5c42cefb2b9d81&oe=5A686C09)
The guy in the background :lol:
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: makattak on October 17, 2017, 04:17:27 PM
The guy in the background :lol:

I did my best to just glance at the photo as I had no desire to be repulsed.

And just about fell out of my chair after you posted that. Thank you for braving the consequences to look closely.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: bedlamite on October 18, 2017, 09:53:20 AM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.campidiot.net%2Fdump%2Fphoto%2FPervertAwards.jpg&hash=292e3ddfc8fdfdac3979fe8712a4313d6dd92c5d)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: bedlamite on October 18, 2017, 09:59:16 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Dunham

However, reading that entire page might actually make you dumber.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/lena-dunham-describes-sexually-abusing-her-toddler-sister
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 18, 2017, 11:11:48 AM
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/lena-dunham-describes-sexually-abusing-her-toddler-sister

But she's the voice of her generation!
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: TechMan on October 18, 2017, 11:24:50 AM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.campidiot.net%2Fdump%2Fphoto%2FPervertAwards.jpg&hash=292e3ddfc8fdfdac3979fe8712a4313d6dd92c5d)


Damn you bedlamite, I was taking a drink when I saw that.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 24, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
http://freebeacon.com/culture/no-signs-harvey-weinstein-taking-nra-despite-statement-sexual-assault-scandal/

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The nation's leading gun-control groups told the Washington Free Beacon on Friday that Harvey Weinstein has not given any money to them despite his promise to channel his anger at himself for sexually abusing numerous women into a fight against the National Rifle Association (NRA).
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RevDisk on October 26, 2017, 10:34:30 AM

A combination of position and mouthing the right political slogans bought him a pass from both Hollywood and the left in general. He's just using the same formula that protected him from rape charges for decades. I doubt he meant or cares about any of the ideology he's loudly proclaimed for decades. Virtue signaling, in other words. "Look at me, I'm a strong believer of the correct thoughts."

Rightists do the same thing on a regular basis. Tis how you generally have the largest growth of government or most effective gun control laws typically passed or enacted by Republicans. While attempting to have sex with men in public bathrooms.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 30, 2017, 11:02:25 AM
I wonder how many of the SJW crowd might be regretting the "me too" thing at this point? Seems like more of them are getting fingered than are the people they might like to see called out.

Kevin Spacey took a hit this morning, and so did this guy:

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/30/woman-accuses-neil-degrasse-tyson-of-rape-while-she-was-a-grad-student/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: French G. on October 30, 2017, 11:16:20 AM
I wonder how many of the SJW crowd might be regretting the "me too" thing at this point? Seems like more of them are getting fingered than are the people they might like to see called out.

Kevin Spacey took a hit this morning, and so did this guy:

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/30/woman-accuses-neil-degrasse-tyson-of-rape-while-she-was-a-grad-student/

Phrasing!
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 09:30:50 AM
Per Michael Knowles, "Kevin Spacey played his Gay Out of Jail Free card."  :laugh:
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on October 31, 2017, 12:26:37 PM
They really didn't think through the #metoo hashtag. When I was growing up the "#" was referred as the "Pound" sign.... 
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: mtnbkr on October 31, 2017, 12:59:18 PM
They really didn't think through the #metoo hashtag. When I was growing up the "#" was referred as the "Pound" sign.... 

You, and people of our generation, are not the target audience of hashtags.  To that audience, it is not a "pound" sign.

Chris
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 02:05:51 PM
But it's still funny.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2017, 02:59:22 PM
But it's still funny.

I was cracking up.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2017, 03:23:50 PM
So apparently Netflix is woke and cancelled "House of Cards" because of Spacey. So woke that they put like 100 people out of a job to show their solidarity with something or other.


On the general topic, sadly, this is turning into quite a McCarthy-like witch hunt. It looks like a lot of innocent people are going to get hit for things as benign as touching a shoulder, giving a hug, or just saying the "wrong" thing. The real offenders will be lost in the mass.

Typical for the SJW crowd though. I saw that the person who started the whole thing has a warrant out for her arrest for a FEB drug violation and is blaming that on men or sex or something.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: TechMan on October 31, 2017, 04:14:32 PM
So apparently Netflix is woke and cancelled "House of Cards" because of Spacey. So woke that they put like 100 people out of a job to show their solidarity with something or other.


On the general topic, sadly, this is turning into quite a McCarthy-like witch hunt. It looks like a lot of innocent people are going to get hit for things as benign as touching a shoulder, giving a hug, or just saying the "wrong" thing. The real offenders will be lost in the mass.

Typical for the SJW crowd though. I saw that the person who started the whole thing has a warrant out for her arrest for a FEB drug violation and is blaming that on men or sex or something.

What the *expletive deleted*ck!  I love House of Cards.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 31, 2017, 04:20:28 PM
So apparently Netflix is woke and cancelled "House of Cards" because of Spacey. So woke that they put like 100 people out of a job to show their solidarity with something or other.

We're getting mixed messages on this.  Now Netflix is claiming that they were planning to end the series after this season.  The timing is suspicious.

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On the general topic, sadly, this is turning into quite a McCarthy-like witch hunt. It looks like a lot of innocent people are going to get hit for things as benign as touching a shoulder, giving a hug, or just saying the "wrong" thing. The real offenders will be lost in the mass.

All of this.  While I'm sure the problem is widespread in Hollywood (and elsewhere in society), I suspect that some of the people "coming forward" are looking for their 15 minutes.  Or looking to get even with someone they don't like.

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 06:44:39 PM
I saw that the person who started the whole thing has a warrant out for her arrest for a FEB drug violation and is blaming that on men or sex or something.


Did Rose McGowan really set this in motion? Props to her, then.

Let's just say I have always found her to be quite impressive.*  =)


Well, not always. Marylin Manson.  =|
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 31, 2017, 06:49:07 PM
... and now House of Cards production has been suspended:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/entertainment/house-of-cards-production-suspended/index.html

Obviously there are more important issues in the world, but I wonder if Netflix is overreacting.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 06:51:13 PM
They've been telling us for the past few decades that sex is just harmless fun. There's nothing special about our bodies. We're just machines.

Sanctity snuck back in sideways, somehow.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 31, 2017, 08:22:05 PM
Now the head of NPR has been accused:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/31/npr-news-editor-hit-with-allegations-sexual-harassment-by-two-women.html

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 08:26:57 PM

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“I was overcome with passion,” he reportedly told her. “I couldn’t help myself.”

I guess he thinks that's a defense.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 06, 2017, 10:13:01 PM
Miss Bumbum Brazil got this:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23241/brazilian-women-wear-beef-kinis-protest-sexual-amanda-prestigiacomo
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 07, 2017, 02:12:49 AM
Miss Bumbum Brazil got this:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23241/brazilian-women-wear-beef-kinis-protest-sexual-amanda-prestigiacomo

Great.  Now the meat has STDs.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 07, 2017, 09:42:40 AM
Well, this is interesting.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/11/07/knock-out-ronan-farrow-claims-another-gigantic-dem-scalp/

So a lawyer that represented Al Gore in 2000, and argued before SCOTUS for fake rainbow marriages, also helped Weinstein keep on Weinsteining. Plus, the Israelis were secretly infiltrating Rose McGowan's life?  =|
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 07, 2017, 02:22:31 PM
Add "reverend" Jesse Jackson to the list:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/07/jesse-jackson-accused-sexual-harassment-by-journalist.html
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 08, 2017, 11:21:23 AM
I wonder how many of the SJW crowd might be regretting the "me too" thing at this point? Seems like more of them are getting fingered than are the people they might like to see called out.

Kevin Spacey took a hit this morning...

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In what is being perceived as a possible attempt to deflect months of declining poll results and mounting criticism over his policies, inappropriate behavior, and investigations into possible corruption in his presidential campaign, President Trump came out as gay Thursday morning.

http://babylonbee.com/news/response-mounting-criticism-president-trump-comes-gay/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 10, 2017, 10:53:58 PM
So apparently Social Justice Warrior LT Sulu has now been accused of slipping some guy a mickey.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/11/10/oh-myyy-george-takei-accused-of-wait-for-it-sexual-assault/

In the interest of fairness, no matter how much I despise Takei's politics and big mouth, as I mentioned a ways back in the topic, I'm really beginning to wonder how much of this stuff actually happened and how much is people now jumping on the attention bandwagon. I still believe before all this is over that many innocent people will end up having their lives ruined. It's quite becoming, "Tie chains around the witch and throw her in the water. If she drowns, she's not a witch."
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 11, 2017, 01:11:59 AM
What are we up to, like 5 new celebrity/politician accusations of sexual assault per day? Yeah, I'm done. Don't want to hear anymore. Work it out between you, 5-0, and your lawyers; just leave the rest of us out of this.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: DustinD on November 11, 2017, 03:17:56 AM
In Minnesota, we are about to have two politicians likely resign over claims of sexual harassment. One is rather pro-gun, former game warden, Army, and police officer. The other is a gun grabber, financially corrupt, and a scumbag. He is also a police officer and EMT.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Fly320s on November 11, 2017, 10:18:38 AM
I'm feeling left out.  Do I get to accuse someone, too, or do I get to be sexually harassed?  And do I get to choose who sexually harasses me?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 11, 2017, 11:08:44 AM
I'm feeling left out.  Do I get to accuse someone, too, or do I get to be sexually harassed?  And do I get to choose who sexually harasses me?
.

Your choices are limited to Rosie O'Donnell, Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.
 
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 11, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
Your choices are limited to Rosie O'Donnell, Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.
 


On the one hand, I find Bernie the least revolting. On the other hand, if HRC assaulted me, I would be forced to strike her in self defense. (No, I would not enjoy that. Why would you suggest such an awful thing?)

As for Rosie, that's a hard pass.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 11, 2017, 11:33:28 AM

On the one hand, I find Bernie the least revolting. On the other hand, if HRC assaulted me, I would be forced to strike her in self defense. (No, I would not enjoy that. Why would you suggest such an awful thing?)

As for Rosie, that's a hard pass.

Well, we know which way you swing anyway

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/395/32465264195_7fd9e02a93_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RsQXYp)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 13, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
It's quite becoming, "Tie chains around the witch and throw her in the water. If she drowns, she's not a witch."

Does she weigh the same as a duck?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: MechAg94 on November 13, 2017, 03:44:41 PM
Does she weigh the same as a duck?

Make sure you use your own scales and not ones provided by the DNC.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 13, 2017, 03:56:01 PM
Make sure you use your own scales and not ones provided by the DNC.
    - Bernie Sanders
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 16, 2017, 10:34:20 AM

Time to demand Franken be ejected from the Senate.

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/ (http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/)

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 16, 2017, 10:37:47 AM
Time to demand Franken be ejected from the Senate.

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/ (http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/)



Wow. Picture is worth one thousand words.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 16, 2017, 12:38:12 PM
Response by Franken supporter. Basically, "She was asking for it!".

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/11/16/vile-imwithher-troll-claims-franken-pic-was-staged-because-leeann-tweedens-skirt-was-too-short/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: charby on November 16, 2017, 01:07:30 PM
Response by Franken supporter. Basically, "She was asking for it!".

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/11/16/vile-imwithher-troll-claims-franken-pic-was-staged-because-leeann-tweedens-skirt-was-too-short/

Be interesting who (if anyone) from his own party calls for Franken to resign.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: makattak on November 16, 2017, 01:08:54 PM
Be interesting who (if anyone) from his own party calls for Franken to resign.

My money is on the "if anyone" because... "IT'S DIFFERENT, OK!" (when it is someone on our side.)

Sheldon Whitehouse has already come out and said that the press will have to ask him about something more interesting than the Franken accusations. Ho-hum.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 16, 2017, 01:31:30 PM
I think some will come out against Franken from that side, just as some are coming out (a bit late) on Clinton. Not sure if any dems in office with name recognition will though.

This will just be an interesting one because of the photographic evidence. Whether Franken was just "kidding around" or not, it seems pretty obvious that Tweeden was really asleep and not in on the joke. It will be much easier for them to shrug off all the Biden photos than to shrug this off. Especially with the added "tongue down the throat".
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 16, 2017, 02:11:40 PM
A second woman has come forward to accuse Franken:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2017/11/16/i-was-stalked-and-harassed-by-al-franken-another-alleged-victim-steps-forward/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: makattak on November 16, 2017, 02:14:18 PM
I think some will come out against Franken from that side, just as some are coming out (a bit late) on Clinton. Not sure if any dems in office with name recognition will though.

This will just be an interesting one because of the photographic evidence. Whether Franken was just "kidding around" or not, it seems pretty obvious that Tweeden was really asleep and not in on the joke. It will be much easier for them to shrug off all the Biden photos than to shrug this off. Especially with the added "tongue down the throat".

Well, they might just throw him under the bus. He's in a safe seat with a Democrat governor to appoint his replacement. Gotta crack some eggs, Al!

(Incidentally, I'm greatly enjoying this reprobate's comeuppance. His very presence in the Senate after STEALING the election in 2008 has been an affront to justice.)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: charby on November 16, 2017, 02:29:25 PM
Well, they might just throw him under the bus. He's in a safe seat with a Democrat governor to appoint his replacement. Gotta crack some eggs, Al!

(Incidentally, I'm greatly enjoying this reprobate's comeuppance. His very presence in the Senate after STEALING the election in 2008 has been an affront to justice.)

Be interesting if they do
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 16, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
So the photographer was Franken's brother.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2017/11/16/hold-up-some-questions-about-who-snapped-that-pic-of-al-franken-and-leeann-tweeden/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Pb on November 16, 2017, 03:46:39 PM
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Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: just Warren on November 16, 2017, 04:08:36 PM
I'd be perfectly happy to see this trend destroy 1000s of politicians regardless of what side of the aisle they are on.

Maybe it will finally switch on the lights in people to realize that the political class are, as a rule, scum. And we could finally get away from letting them make momentous decisions for us.   
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: charby on November 16, 2017, 04:27:37 PM
I'd be perfectly happy to see this trend destroy 1000s of politicians regardless of what side of the aisle they are on.

Maybe it will finally switch on the lights in people to realize that the political class are, as a rule, scum. And we could finally get away from letting them make momentous decisions for us.   

I concur
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: LadySmith on November 17, 2017, 07:24:26 AM
Out of curiosity, what have you told or taught the females in your lives to do regarding sexual harassment? Being gun guys, I already know the most likely advice you all have for sexual assault.  ;)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 17, 2017, 09:27:19 AM
Out of curiosity, what have you told or taught the females in your lives to do regarding sexual harassment? Being gun guys, I already know the most likely advice you all have for sexual assault.  ;)


I tell all women of my acquaintance they should carry a gun, and know how to use it.

Unfortunately, because of a proclivity to serial suicide attempts, I can't extend that advice to my own daughter.
Title: Re: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: makattak on November 17, 2017, 10:04:34 AM
Out of curiosity, what have you told or taught the females in your lives to do regarding sexual harassment? Being gun guys, I already know the most likely advice you all have for sexual assault.  ;)
My oldest girl is 7, so she's only got the most basic instruction so far. (Not allowing touching, tell mommy and daddy and the like)

As they get older,  we'll read "The Gift of Fear." Very useful book (not perfect,  but none is). One of the important lessons is, to listen to your instincts.  If you feel uncomfortable, don't dismiss it,  find out why.  Oftentimes it is because someone is using societal conventions against you.

I see that happening in every one of these stories.  (Especially in a place with already horribly messed up conventions like Hollywood.)

This is all,  of course,  prior to an assault.  During an assualt it's shoot center mass and don't stop until threat is ended.

(If she is disarmed,  it will be fight back and aim for weak spots- eyes,  joints,  etc...)

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Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: dogmush on November 17, 2017, 12:05:50 PM
Out of curiosity, what have you told or taught the females in your lives to do regarding sexual harassment? Being gun guys, I already know the most likely advice you all have for sexual assault.  ;)


Do your level best to put the offender in the hospital.  Gouge eyes, kick knees, throat punch, whatever soft target she can find. (assuming for some reason she can't just shoot him).

Even if he's just trying to be grabby, or pulling a Weinstein (some kind of quid pro quo offer) a severely injured male in a hospital accused of rape is not the kind of "he said, she said" that is winnable for him.  What's he going to say "I wasn't trying to rape her like she thinks, I just wanted her to *expletive deleted*ck me for a promotion?"
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 17, 2017, 06:46:38 PM
Democrat candidate for governor tries to get ahead of the story:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/17/dem-candidate-boasts-hayloft-romp-sex-with-50-women-in-bid-to-preempt-oppo.html

Quote
O’Neill went on to say: “In the last fifty years I was sexually intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females. It ranged from a gorgeous blonde who was my first true love and we made passionate love in the hayloft of her parent’s barn and ended with a drop dead gorgeous red head from Cleveland.”

This guy misses the point.  The issue with Franken, Weinstein, et al. isn't that they're promiscuous.  The issue is they are sexually harassing and assaulting women.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RevDisk on November 17, 2017, 07:13:33 PM

Personally, I'm glad to see them burn. Scumbags are scumbags, regardless of party line. People who use their position to get away with rape or sexual assault deserve to be removed from those positions of trust. Hopefully this is the tip of the iceberg. I know Congress has plenty more dirt to be exposed.

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 17, 2017, 07:54:04 PM
Personally, I'm glad to see them burn. Scumbags are scumbags, regardless of party line. People who use their position to get away with rape or sexual assault deserve to be removed from those positions of trust. the gene pool. Hopefully this is the tip of the iceberg. I know Congress has plenty more dirt to be exposed.



FTFY
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 17, 2017, 07:56:18 PM
Feminist Lena "believe women" Dunham is believing one of her former writers over the woman who says he raped her when she was 17. Interesting, for someone who otherwise attacks men just for breathing.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/11/17/writer-for-lena-dunhams-girls-accused-of-rape-of-then-17-year-old-actress-aurora-perrineau/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 17, 2017, 08:52:54 PM
You mean Lena "It's not assault when it's your own sister" Dunham?

THAT Lena Dunham?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 18, 2017, 01:10:19 AM
Feminist Lena "believe women" Dunham is believing one of her former writers over the woman who says he raped her when she was 17. Interesting, for someone who otherwise attacks men just for breathing.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/11/17/writer-for-lena-dunhams-girls-accused-of-rape-of-then-17-year-old-actress-aurora-perrineau/

I'll just leave this here:

https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/893566035638407168
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 18, 2017, 09:07:22 AM
I'll just leave this here:

https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/893566035638407168


Plus isn't she also the one who was "raped by a Republican in cowboy boots"?

She's a prime example of the kind of "feminist" who hurts women. To her, having "rape on the resume" gives her feminist creds. Screw women who were actually raped, especially if they are of the wrong social belief system, or if they accuse people of the "correct" social belief system.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 18, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
Plus isn't she also the one who was "raped by a Republican in cowboy boots"?

So she claims.  She also molested her own sister as a child.

Another pearl of wisdom from Dunham's scrambled brain:  http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/12/20/lena-dunham-says-never-had-abortion-but-wish-had.html

(Regardless of one's stance on abortion, that's pretty messed up)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 18, 2017, 11:40:03 AM
I'll just leave this here:

https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/893566035638407168


Typical.

"The woman must be believed! (Except when it's inconvenient to do so.)"
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 18, 2017, 10:07:04 PM
Ms. Dunham's PR team has been working hard:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lena-dunham-apologizes-defending-girls-writer-murray-miller-accusations-sexual-assault-1059803

Quote
Read Dunham's full statement below.

Quote
As feminists, we live and die by our politics, and believing women is the first choice we make every single day when we wake up. Therefore I never thought I would issue a statement publically (sic) supporting someone accused of sexual assault, but I naively believed it was important to share my perspective on my friend’s situation as it has transpired behind the scenes over the last few months. I now understand that it was absolutely the wrong time to come forward with such a statement and I am so sorry. We have been given the gift of powerful voices and by speaking out we were putting our thumb on the scale and it was wrong. We regret this decision with every fiber of our being.

Every woman who comes forward deserves to be heard, fully and completely, and our relationship to the accused should not be part of the calculation anyone makes when examining her case. Every person and every feminist should be required to hear her. Under patriarchy, “I believe you” is essential. Until we are all believed, none of us will be believed. We apologize to any women who have been disappointed.

Shortly after posting her statement, Dunham deleted her tweet. Below is a screenshot of the original tweet.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 19, 2017, 12:03:18 AM
No apology to the (alleged) victim, I see.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 19, 2017, 10:57:56 AM
I couldn't help noticing that, mid-way through "her" statement, she switched from "I" to  "we." If she were a journalist it might be written off as an editorial we, but in this case I think it's a [very misplaced] case of royal we. She actually seems to think that she's a person who matters.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: dogmush on November 19, 2017, 11:14:02 AM
I couldn't help noticing that, mid-way through "her" statement, she switched from "I" to  "we." If she were a journalist it might be written off as an editorial we, but in this case I think it's a [very misplaced] case of royal we. She actually seems to think that she's a person who matters.

The original statement was a joint one from Me. Dunham and another person from her show. (Producer, I think?) I assume the sniveling not-apology is also joint, hence the "we"s.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2017, 10:19:06 AM
Interesting. The left is arguing against zero tolerance, now that it affects them. Tell it to the 7 year old that gets expelled for pointing a finger and saying 'pow".

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/11/20/laurence-tribes-hot-take-on-al-franken-so-scorching-it-melts-hypocrisy-detectors/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 20, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
A second woman has accused Franken of grabbing her:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html


... but since he's a Democrat, he should be forgiven.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 20, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
... and add Charlie Rose to the list: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.5f445b394f7d
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 20, 2017, 05:23:12 PM
... and another:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/20/top-california-dem-stepping-down-amid-new-sexual-harassment-claims.html

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A top California Democrat is scrapping his re-election campaign and resigning his leadership post amid growing sexual harassment allegations.

California Assembly Majority Whip Raul Bocanegra announced he plans to step down next year -- after a staffer said he put his hands inside her blouse at a nightclub in 2009 and The Los Angeles Times reportedly presented him with harassment allegations from a total of six women.

(It's almost a full-time job just keeping up)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 20, 2017, 08:59:06 PM
... and add Charlie Rose to the list: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.5f445b394f7d


But it's okay, because Charlie says he's sorry if some of the women in what he believed were "consensual" encounters didn't happen to see it that way.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-charlie-rose-suspended-following-sexual-harassment-report/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2017, 10:21:51 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPHudEnV4AE4RBi.jpg)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: TechMan on November 20, 2017, 10:42:05 PM
... and another:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/20/top-california-dem-stepping-down-amid-new-sexual-harassment-claims.html

(It's almost a full-time job just keeping up)


This is me  [popcorn] [popcorn].
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: MechAg94 on November 21, 2017, 09:19:44 AM
This is me  [popcorn] [popcorn].
Pretty soon it will just be a "everybody does it" dismissal and the worst of them will skate. 
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: DittoHead on November 21, 2017, 10:08:42 AM
I don't tend to don the tinfoil hat very often, but I'm starting to wonder if there is an end game here that brings this back to attacking Trump (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/what-happened-to-trumps-16-sexual-misconduct-accusers.html). I have no doubt the democrats would throw a few of their own under the bus in order to create an environment where someone can more easily be forced out using past allegations (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/360956-tapper-runs-through-trump-sexual-harassment-accusers-people-in-glass-white).
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 21, 2017, 10:20:27 AM
I don't tend to don the tinfoil hat very often, but I'm starting to wonder if there is an end game here that brings this back to attacking Trump (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/what-happened-to-trumps-16-sexual-misconduct-accusers.html). I have no doubt the democrats would throw a few of their own under the bus in order to create an environment where someone can more easily be forced out using past allegations (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/360956-tapper-runs-through-trump-sexual-harassment-accusers-people-in-glass-white).

I have had the same tinfoily thoughts. I would normally consider it an outrageous stretch, but considering some of the other crazy stuff that has been done since Trump won, and the "resistance", it sadly becomes a viable possibility.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: MechAg94 on November 21, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
I was thinking more that there is other news that is passing under the radar.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on November 21, 2017, 12:48:10 PM
Big John Howell signed off on his morning shwo on WLS today with "We'll be back tomorrow morning with at least 4 more Sexual Assault/Harassment cases."

 [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 21, 2017, 02:12:11 PM
Big John Howell signed off on his morning shwo on WLS today with "We'll be back tomorrow morning with at least 4 more Sexual Assault/Harassment cases."

 [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]

Well, here's two:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/New-Mexico-Democrat-undeterred-by-harassment-12371804.php

Quote
Padilla was accused in two federal lawsuits of harassing women while helping the city of Albuquerque overhaul a problem-plagued emergency call center in 2006. The city ended up settling "sexually hostile work environment" claims stemming from Padilla's six-week tenure as a supervisor.

And:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-rep-john-conyers-settled-complaint-over-sexual-conduct/

Quote
Michigan Rep. John Conyers settled a complaint in 2015 from a woman who alleged she was fired from his Washington staff because she rejected his sexual advances ...

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 21, 2017, 03:16:44 PM
Apparently there is something called the "me too" act heading to congress. Sounds like something ripe for abuse. If it's anything like the zero tolerance policy in schools, I'm glad I'm retired. If I was still working, I would immediately initiate the Pence Maneuver and never, ever, be alone anywhere in the workplace with a female.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2017/11/21/thats-it-nancy-pelosis-response-to-john-conyers-allegations-is-total-garbage/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: dogmush on November 21, 2017, 03:28:08 PM
Honestly, and I'd want to read it very closely because...democrats, but the ME TOO Congress (a strained acronym if there ever was one) doesn't look too bad.  Lots of training, which as a DOD employee I relish seeing inflicted on the ones who gave it to us, and some reforms of the reporting and complaint rules, which is needed.  It seems to confine itself to congress and congressional employees.

I like this part:

Quote from: linked article
Members of Congress accused of harassment would also have to repay the Treasury for the settlements paid to victims.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/360489-lawmakers-unveil-me-too-congress-bill-to-overhaul-sexual-harassment-policies
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 21, 2017, 03:40:39 PM
Honestly, and I'd want to read it very closely because...democrats, but the ME TOO Congress (a strained acronym if there ever was one) doesn't look too bad.  Lots of training, which as a DOD employee I relish seeing inflicted on the ones who gave it to us, and some reforms of the reporting and complaint rules, which is needed.  It seems to confine itself to congress and congressional employees.

I like this part:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/360489-lawmakers-unveil-me-too-congress-bill-to-overhaul-sexual-harassment-policies

Okay, I like the sound of that. On paper at least. I'd love to see congress have to do all the same diversity et. al. training that regular gov employees have to go through.

Though I don't have high hopes. Hillary was supposed to get training and sign documentation regarding classified material. The big wigs always seem to find a loophole.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: zxcvbob on November 21, 2017, 05:15:35 PM
Apparently there is something called the "me too" act heading to congress. Sounds like something ripe for abuse. If it's anything like the zero tolerance policy in schools, I'm glad I'm retired. If I was still working, I would immediately initiate the Pence Maneuver and never, ever, be alone anywhere in the workplace with a female.


For years now, I never spent any time in a female cowoker's office (or her in mine) unless the door is open.  (and I spend a lot of time collaborating with my coworkers, and lately, especially a couple of the females)  And never been to lunch with one unless it was with a group.  There's no point in inviting trouble, and the trouble doesn't even have to come from her.  Someone might see us together and start gossiping (but we're all old enough now that's probably unlikely)

AFAIK, everyone around here does that.  I don't think I even spend any time alone with the guys with the door closed.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 21, 2017, 06:23:43 PM

AFAIK, everyone around here does that.  I don't think I even spend any time alone with the guys with the door closed.

And are you rrrrreally SUUUUURE that the guys you think are guys are really guys? In this mixed-up world, today's "guy" is tomorrows genderless personage.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 21, 2017, 07:59:20 PM
Female SNL staffers sign a letter in support of Al Franken.  Public's reaction is . . . not what they expected:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/women-snl-write-letter-support-141304054.html


Quote
A letter literally “sending gratitude” to a man’s entire family bc that man didn’t grope the letter writers. Ok.

...

This week on SNL: host Lena Dunham and musical guest R. Kelly.

...

Congrats on this harmful, distracting, useless statement, @nbcsnl. It's LITERALLY "family men," "comedians," & "honorable public servants" being revealed as harassers. Progressive men can mistreat women too, and it's dangerous to imply otherwise.

Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on November 21, 2017, 09:21:39 PM
From the time I was a brand new 2LT, the only time I closed my office door was if I was in there by myself on a phone call.  If anyone, male or female was in the office with me, the door was open.

Same with conference rooms or other places.  Door always open unless there were three or more folks are in there. 
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 22, 2017, 08:58:48 AM
The Chicago Tribune has an editorial (or op-ed) on Charlie Rose that sums it up pretty well: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-charlie-rose-kass-1122-story.html

I guess I'm like the author of the article: I guess I'm sexist or old-fashioned or patriarchal or ethnically tribal or some other sin or thought crime that I haven’t figured out yet. I was raised, like the author, to treat every young woman with respect, and to remember that she has a family, with brothers and cousins. And that she and her family are as worthy of respect as your own. I suppose the fact that I consider scumbags like Weinstein and Rose and the others as scumbags makes me some sort of troglodyte, but so be it.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 22, 2017, 12:06:44 PM
I know Jake Tapper leans left, but he's the kind of lefty I think you can politely debate. Awesome response to the Teen Vogue nitwit:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/11/22/boom-jake-tapper-nukes-teen-vogue-columnists-innocent-men-hot-take/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 22, 2017, 09:33:51 PM
At the risk of beating the subject into the ground, two more women are accusing Al Franken of groping them, bringing the total to four so far:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-more-women-accuse-sen-001020750.html
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: slingshot on November 23, 2017, 11:28:39 AM
I find it interesting that when Democrats are accused of sexual misconduct, they always say let the investigation take it's course and innocent until proven guilty.  The facts will speak for themselves.
But if it's a Republican, even accused of misconduct (let alone done something), they are supposed to resign or in the case of the AL Senate candidate, it's guilty and they don't really care if he's innocent or the situations were debatable in terms of okay conduct versus questionable conduct.

Let's not forget that Elvis like young girls and met Pricillia when she was 14 years old whom he married.  Some might think this is an antiquated concept, but some men don't want women who have had previous sexual intercourse and as a result, look to the younger ones for marriage prospects.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: LadySmith on November 24, 2017, 07:25:12 AM
I suppose the fact that I consider scumbags like Weinstein and Rose and the others as scumbags makes me some sort of troglodyte, but so be it.

No. You, sir, are a gentleman.  =)

My tinfoil hattery is that I think we're going to be flooded with accusations and counter-accusations until the public falls back asleep about it. That way the perps can continue their misdeeds and worse without anybody caring...again.


Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 24, 2017, 08:07:35 AM

My tinfoil hattery is that I think we're going to be flooded with accusations and counter-accusations until the public falls back asleep about it. That way the perps can continue their misdeeds and worse without anybody caring...again.


Intentionally contaminating the signal-to-noise ratio? That wouldn't surprise me. Or just making so much noise that it becomes the new normal.

I noticed this morning that Gabby Douglas, the Olympic gymnast, has retracted her tweet about dressing modestly to avert attacks. Personally, although I don't think a woman should have to fear attack no matter how she's dressed, I can't see that dressing modestly is bad advice, and I would expect my daughter to dress modestly. But Gabby is a "somebody," and I'm sure the feminist powers-that-be made it abundantly clear to her that "somebodies" aren't allowed to express such opinions to today's world.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 29, 2017, 02:19:20 PM
Today is a two-fer:  Garrison Keillor (Prairie Home Socialist) and NBC's Matt Lauer have both been sacked for "inappropriate behavior."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/29/nbc-announces-today-show-co-host-matt-lauer-fired-due-to-inappropriate-sexual-behavior-at-work.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/29/media/garrison-keillor-inappropriate-behavior/index.html
Quote
Keillor, in an op-ed for The Washington Post published on Tuesday, had defended Minnesota Democratic Senator Al Franken, who was recently accused by Leeann Tweeden of groping and kissing her without her consent during a USO tour in 2006.

Keillor wrote that calls for Franken to resign were "pure absurdity."

... and now we know why.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: zxcvbob on November 29, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
Today is a two-fer:  Garrison Keillor (Prairie Home Socialist) and NBC's Matt Lauer have both been sacked for "inappropriate behavior."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/29/nbc-announces-today-show-co-host-matt-lauer-fired-due-to-inappropriate-sexual-behavior-at-work.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/29/media/garrison-keillor-inappropriate-behavior/index.html
... and now we know why.


Here's the latest on GK.  Looks like he might be getting railroaded (although if he was just patting her on the back, why so low on her back?)  I wonder if his real sin was defending Al Franken?

Maybe I better change my leering avatar...
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: charby on November 29, 2017, 10:38:53 PM
Any guesses on the next pervert?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: just Warren on November 29, 2017, 10:47:05 PM
Is Stephen Breyer too much to ask for?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 29, 2017, 11:59:27 PM
A list of skeezy candidates:

Geraldo Rivera
Joe Scarborough
Anderson Cooper
Juan Williams
Jimmy Fallon
Stephen Colbert


Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Regolith on November 30, 2017, 12:33:29 AM
Today is a two-fer:  Garrison Keillor (Prairie Home Socialist) and NBC's Matt Lauer have both been sacked for "inappropriate behavior."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/29/nbc-announces-today-show-co-host-matt-lauer-fired-due-to-inappropriate-sexual-behavior-at-work.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/29/media/garrison-keillor-inappropriate-behavior/index.html
... and now we know why.


Instapundit called the Keillor one, based on an article that Keillor wrote defending Al Franken, about 3 hours before news broke that he was fired.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282013/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Marnoot on November 30, 2017, 01:42:21 PM
A list of skeezy candidates:

Geraldo Rivera
Joe Scarborough
Anderson Cooper
Juan Williams
Jimmy Fallon
Stephen Colbert




https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/30/bette-midler-accused-geraldo-rivera-drugging-gropi/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on November 30, 2017, 01:48:52 PM
It appears Joe Barton is not seeking reelection. However, most of what I have read on this incident concurs with the URL below. He is actually a victim of revenge porn versus being a harasser.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2017/11/30/victim-of-revenge-porn-gop-rep-joe-barton-wont-seek-re-election-after-nude-photo-leak/
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: French G. on November 30, 2017, 09:35:16 PM
I wonder if the truly rich and powerful will just become more ruthless. Easier than becoming more moral I imagine. Kennedy rules, they can't accuse you if they're dead.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 30, 2017, 09:56:58 PM
I wonder if the truly rich and powerful will just become more ruthless. Easier than becoming more moral I imagine. Kennedy rules, they can't accuse you if they're dead.

Works for the Clinton gang.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: charby on November 30, 2017, 11:04:30 PM
A list of skeezy candidates:

Geraldo Rivera
Joe Scarborough
Anderson Cooper
Juan Williams
Jimmy Fallon
Stephen Colbert




I really don't see Anderson Cooper, but you never know.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on December 02, 2017, 10:28:10 AM
Interesting to watch the Dems handle this right now. R's might do the same, but almost everything seems to be a "D" right now. Pelosi, in her backpedalling, is now calling for resignations, but strategically. Conyers said he's not going to run again anyway, so that's an easy bus to jump on. Also she's now calling for a no-name guy from NV to resign, who appears to have done much less egregious stuff than Franken (asking an employee on dates from what I read). Yet no call from her for Franken to resign.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/02/pelosi-calls-on-nevada-democrat-to-resign-over-sexual-misconduct-claim.html
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on December 04, 2017, 02:01:05 PM
Can someone help me with a list of R's (and conservatives) that have resigned/been fired in the current sexual harassment firestorm
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: TechMan on December 04, 2017, 03:03:52 PM
So what are the chances of this getting passed?  https://thecapitolist.com/desantis-co-sponsors-bill-to-end-congress-sexual-harassment-hush-fund/ (https://thecapitolist.com/desantis-co-sponsors-bill-to-end-congress-sexual-harassment-hush-fund/)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 04, 2017, 04:20:44 PM
So what are the chances of this getting passed?  https://thecapitolist.com/desantis-co-sponsors-bill-to-end-congress-sexual-harassment-hush-fund/ (https://thecapitolist.com/desantis-co-sponsors-bill-to-end-congress-sexual-harassment-hush-fund/)

As an old saying goes, "Between slim and none -- and Slim left town."

It just makes too much sense. And it would make scumbag politicians responsible/liable (at least in one regard) for their own scumbag actions. Which means it'll never pass.

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Members of Congress and staff cannot live under special rules,” he continued. “The current system incentivizes misconduct and makes it difficult for victims. By exposing these secret settlements and by discontinuing using tax dollars to pay for member misconduct, this bill will reduce the incentive for bad behavior and bring more accountability to Congress.”

Added Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), another co-sponsor: “The use of taxpayer funds and forced non-disclosure agreements to silence victims of sexual harassment is disgusting, and I am grateful to be able to join my colleagues in introducing legislation to stop this practice. It is time to restore respect in the congressional workplace, and shame on us if we don’t make this change.”

Get ready to be shamed, Ms. Blackburn.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on December 21, 2017, 06:47:25 AM
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Nothing says your fighting sexual harassment like dressing as a high paid call girl eh?
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: dogmush on December 21, 2017, 07:40:18 AM
Oh *expletive deleted*it!  You went to the victim blaming.  You KNOW that you are absolutely not allowed to imply that actions might have consequences.

SHUN!!!  SHUN THE HERETIC!!!
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Doggy Daddy on December 27, 2017, 01:08:47 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPHudEnV4AE4RBi.jpg)

Oh Gawd how I wish I had some decent photoshop skills!  The Senator's pose in this just begs for a "Franken-stein" treatment of some sort.  Maybe Franken-stein chasing a fleeing bride of Franken-stein?  (Pelosi-stein?)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: bedlamite on December 27, 2017, 01:21:58 AM
Oh Gawd how I wish I had some decent photoshop skills!  The Senator's pose in this just begs for a "Franken-stein" treatment of some sort.  Maybe Franken-stein chasing a fleeing bride of Franken-stein?  (Pelosi-stein?)

He needs to be groping Ben Stein.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 04, 2018, 12:44:38 PM
And Weinstein is [indirectly] back in the news, courtesy of Meryl Streep.

http://deadline.com/2018/01/meryl-streep-dustin-hoffman-kramer-vs-kramer-slap-overstepping-the-post-1202235246/

Ms. Streep continues to claim that she had no idea Weinstein was abusing anyone. But then, catch this:

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But when it comes down to it, Streep doesn’t want to hear about her silence. “I want to hear about the silence of Melania Trump. I want to hear from her. She has so much that’s valuable to say,” she said. “And so does Ivanka. I want her to speak now.”

Talk about misdirection! What do Melania and Ivanka Trump have to do with Harvey Weinstein and whether or not Meryl Streep knew but kept her mouth closed to protect her career? Melania and Ivanka aren't Hollywood. They've never been part of the movie industry. Sorry, Meryl, I'm not prepared to allow you to pull the smoke and mirrors trick on this one.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Scout26 on January 04, 2018, 05:37:36 PM
I don't remember Ivanka nor Melania giving Roman Polanski a standing ovation at an awards show, nor referring to Harvey Weinstein as "G-d".
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on January 09, 2018, 05:25:29 PM
This is an interesting twist. I was kind of wondering when more euros would weigh in. In my experience, European women are generally way less uptight about this stuff than American women. Even the krauts who generally have a "hands off and out of my personal space" policy (men and women) laugh off innuendo and other sex related stuff (not counting Islamic grab ass games). I don't think "me too" to the extent it has been applied in the US, would fly in most any European country. Maybe not most countries.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/09/catherine-deneuve-calls-out-metoo-movement-says-men-should-be-free-to-hit-on-women.html
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 09, 2018, 06:02:48 PM
What a refreshing perspective:

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“Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or cack-handedly, is not – nor is men being gentlemanly a macho attack,” said Deneuve.

I especially liike the last part, since I'm one of those [male chauvinist] olde phartes who persists in thinking that a gentleman should open doors for women.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 09, 2018, 09:53:53 PM
Hell, don't know what is OK anymore.
If you make even a gentlemanly advance on a woman you are a misogynistic cisgender pig. If you don't make even a gentlemanly advance on a transgendered whateverthehell you are a misogynistic cisgender pig.

No damn wonder the sex robot industry is looking so great.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ned Hamford on January 09, 2018, 10:10:09 PM
What a refreshing perspective:

I especially liike the last part, since I'm one of those [male chauvinist] olde phartes who persists in thinking that a gentleman should open doors for women.

I bet you'd call someone sweetheart too. You monster.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 10, 2018, 04:40:34 PM
I bet you'd call someone sweetheart too. You monster.

I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Fly320s on January 10, 2018, 06:48:41 PM
Saw a news bit somewhere, that said Weinstein got punched in the face at a restaurant.  No video, though.   =(
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Regolith on January 10, 2018, 10:17:32 PM
Saw a news bit somewhere, that said Weinstein got punched in the face at a restaurant.  No video, though.   =(

The father of an actresses who was basically blacklisted because she wouldn't let him perv on her was threatening to do just that. Wonder if he got his shot in after all.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: TechMan on January 11, 2018, 12:18:59 PM
Hell, don't know what is OK anymore.
If you make even a gentlemanly advance on a woman you are a misogynistic cisgender pig. If you don't make even a gentlemanly advance on a transgendered whateverthehell you are a misogynistic cisgender pig.

No damn wonder the sex robot industry is looking so great.

You mean like this (https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/there-s-a-new-sex-robot-in-town-say-hello-to-solana/) or this (http://www.iflscience.com/technology/2018-could-be-the-year-of-the-male-sex-robot/)
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 11, 2018, 12:51:32 PM
You mean like this (https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/there-s-a-new-sex-robot-in-town-say-hello-to-solana/) or this (http://www.iflscience.com/technology/2018-could-be-the-year-of-the-male-sex-robot/)

Oh, dear G-d!

Interviewer (@ 7:18): "The gender possibilities are sort of endless in the world, right, so why not have them all [indistinct]?"

9th grade Biology fail. There are only two genders, male, and female. That pretty much limits the gender "possibilities" to a very finite set ... which is a lot smaller than "endless."
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 11, 2018, 01:29:55 PM
Saw a news bit somewhere, that said Weinstein got punched in the face at a restaurant.  No video, though.   =(

Saw a clip on TV this morning; Weinstein was with his "sober coach" at a restaurant when another patron allegedly struck him and told him to leave.  The report stated that the alleged assailant may have been drunk at the time.
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: Ben on January 12, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
Looks like Chris Mathews may be on his way out.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/12/msnbcs-chris-matthews-mocks-hillary-clinton-makes-bill-cosby-pill-joke-in-unearthed-footage.html
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: just Warren on January 12, 2018, 07:02:33 PM
That sends a tingle down MY leg!
Title: Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 12, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
That sends a tingle down MY leg!

You might consider Depends for that.