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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: makattak on November 17, 2017, 09:53:00 AM
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And any other rogue state:
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/libya-the-forgotten-reason-north-korea-desperately-wants-23129
Long article, but the answer is in the link: Libya.
As I said at the time, it was a monumental blunder to depose Kaddaffi. Yes, he was a terrible despot, but he was a terrible despot that shaped up because of the Iraq invasion.
Instead of showing how well getting on the right side of nonproliferation can go for you (as a terrible despot) we showed that if you give up your aims at Nukes, we might decide to overthrow you and laugh as you get tortured to death.
I'm sure that's a much better incentive not to get nukes, right?
Thanks, Obama!
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Another gift that keeps on giving from the Obama administration.
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I don't believe the article presents a new or original argument. However, I agree that it is most likely true --- or atleast presents a major reason why Rocketman wants nukes.
And, *!SIGH!* yea, it's Obama's gift that keeps on giving. Gaddafi was playing nice....shoulda left him alone. Another Hillary "success story." :facepalm:
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It was Reagan who made Ghadaffi play nice. Of course you'd never hear about that and it was probably why Obama/Clinton were desperate to do as they did...to claim more of the limelight than Reagan. They did a good job of that, right? Throw in the Arab Spring and the rest of the destabilization they set in motion in the entire region. If we had historians who are interested in truth, Obama would be excoriated for his deliberate malfeasance...or perhaps he accomplished just what he set out to do.
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Libya was the big win of the look like a terrorist and we bomb the *expletive deleted*it out of you Bush doctrine. And then we messed it up.
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I don't think for a minute if we'd played nice with Libya (or anyone else) that the Kim regime would have chosin to give up its nukes.
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And any other rogue state:
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/libya-the-forgotten-reason-north-korea-desperately-wants-23129
Long article, but the answer is in the link: Libya.
As I said at the time, it was a monumental blunder to depose Kaddaffi. Yes, he was a terrible despot, but he was a terrible despot that shaped up because of the Iraq invasion.
Instead of showing how well getting on the right side of nonproliferation can go for you (as a terrible despot) we showed that if you give up your aims at Nukes, we might decide to overthrow you and laugh as you get tortured to death.
I'm sure that's a much better incentive not to get nukes, right?
Thanks, Obama!
I thought that was more Hillary's deal.
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If I was the paranoid tyrannical despot of a rogue state and depended on terror, brainwashing, mass murder, and violent repression to stay in power . . . I'd be disinclined to voluntarily give up my nukes, too.
Things may not end well with the Norks.
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I wonder if preventing outside regime overthrow is the same reason that Syria has a robust chemical weapons program.
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North Korea won't give up their nukes until they are forced to. The US does not always play nice. Do you think we would even care about this pre-WWII country if it weren't for nukes? Some accidents need to start happening like NK subs being lost and so forth.