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Title: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: DustinD on February 27, 2018, 07:08:48 PM
This is the 2018 version of previous Minnesota Gun Activism threads.

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=38127.0  2013
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=43655.0  2014
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=47068.0  2015
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=51052.0  2016
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=53624.0  2017

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=47539.0  Hearing loss data for 2015


The anti-gunners are going for broke, figuratively banning every semi-auto firearm and any magazine with no grandfathering for the magazines that hold more than seven rounds with mandatory yearly home inspections for any remaining gun owners. They are also pushing universal background checks, GVPO, (Gun Violence Protection Orders) and other restrictions and bans. Republicans control the House and Senate

We are having a hearing on these bills this Thursday, March 1st at 10:15 am at the state Capitol. If anyone can attend please try to be there by 8:00 am to make sure you can get a seat. Also please email and call your representatives.

www.facebook.com/events/2090740554489741 (https://www.facebook.com/events/2090740554489741/)


Because of abuse of the House rules by anti-gun DFL Representative Dave Pinto, a hearing has been forced in the House Public Safety Committee for two gun control bills THIS THURSDAY beginning at 10:15am.

The hearing will cover:

* HF 1605: Gun Violence Restraining Orders
* HF 1669: Universal Background Checks

We anticipate that the hearing will last approximately 90 minutes.

We're anticipating approximately 30 minutes total to be spent on each bill. Committees usually take public testimony.

WE NEED YOU AT THE HEARING:
* Arrive early (by 8:00am if not earlier)
* Park in an available lot nearby - ample parking is available within 2-3 blocks.
* The hearing is being held in the State Office Building at 100 Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd in Room 10 (basement). Hearing moving to state Capitol room 120.
* Lawful carry is allowed with a Minnesota Permit to Carry - no other notification is required. Please carry concealed.
* If you can attend the hearing, please RSVP here so that we can keep you apprised of other events before or after the hearing.

JOIN THE CAUCUS AT http://gunowners.mn/join
DONATE at http://gunowners.mn/donate

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Update: Hearing moving to state Capitol room 120. The Caucus has reserved a staging area in rooms G20A from 8am - 9am and 400 North in the SOB from 9am - 12pm.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: DustinD on February 27, 2018, 07:22:51 PM
Chair: Brian Johnson, 651-296-4346, rep.brian.johnson@house.mn

Vice Chair: Kathy Lohmer, 651-296-4244, rep.kathy.lohmer@house.mn

GOP Members
Keith Franke, 651-296-4342, rep.keith.franke@house.mn
Matt Grossell, 651-296-4265, rep.matt.grossell@house.mn
Jeff Howe, 651-296-4373, rep.jeff.howe@house.mn
Eric Lucero, 651-296-1534, rep.eric.lucero@house.mn
Jim Newberger, 651-296-2451, rep.jim.newberger@house.mn
Marion O'Neill, 651-296-5063, rep.marion.oneill@house.mn
Mark Uglem, 651-296-5513, rep.mark.uglem@house.mn
Nick Zerwas, 651-296-4237, rep.nick.zerwas@house.mn

DFL Members
DFL Lead: Debra Hilstrom, 651-296-3709, rep.debra.hilstrom@house.mn
Jamie Becker-Finn, 651-296-7153, rep.jamie.becker-finn@house.mn
Jack Considine Jr., 651-296-3248, rep.jack.considine@house.mn
Raymond Dehn, 651-296-8659, rep.raymond.dehn@house.mn
Dave Pinto, 651-296-4199, rep.dave.pinto@house.mn
JoAnn Ward, 651-296-7807, rep.joann.ward@house.mn
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: charby on February 28, 2018, 10:36:09 PM
Any chance of hf 3022?
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: DustinD on February 28, 2018, 10:53:38 PM
They won't even give it a hearing. There is no risk of anything negative passing this year.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: 230RN on March 01, 2018, 07:22:29 AM
There are times I wish I could establish residency in each State.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: DustinD on March 01, 2018, 10:48:43 AM
Today is the big day, hundreds of people are here. I think we have the opposition outnumbered a few times over. I will be live blogging from the www.facebook.com/pg/gunownersmn (https://www.facebook.com/pg/gunownersmn).

The hearing starts in a half hour, 10:15am.

www.facebook.com/gunownersmn/posts/908177196018439 (https://www.facebook.com/gunownersmn/posts/908177196018439)
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: Jocassee on March 01, 2018, 10:51:16 AM
Good luck. I just sent you an FB friend request.  Looking forward to the live blog.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: Scout26 on March 01, 2018, 12:58:08 PM
There are times I wish I could establish residency in each State.

Easy-peasy.  Just switch your party affiliation...  Heck, you could probably establish several (hundred) residencies...
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: DustinD on March 01, 2018, 02:45:45 PM
Both bills defeated, everything went well. We seriously won the debate. Currently sitting next to Oleg Volk at the nearby gopher bar celebrating.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: lee n. field on March 01, 2018, 02:57:48 PM
They won't even give it a hearing. There is no risk of anything negative passing this year.

Good for MN.  Not looking so good right now in IL.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: gunsmith on March 01, 2018, 03:11:18 PM
dustin, i didn't see any live blog, did you post it?
( im chris k on fb )
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: DustinD on March 01, 2018, 11:23:25 PM
www.facebook.com/gunownersmn/posts/908177196018439 (https://www.facebook.com/gunownersmn/posts/908177196018439) Links directly to the live blog. I was posting most of my comments using the official MN Gun Owners Caucus account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc9p30M7PU4 Video of the event

This picture was taken by the Star Tribune and posted by them. I don't think the anti-gun crowd liked our testimony.
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28467931_908297352673090_4395331946400994704_n.jpg?oh=7d000a3e703e0549698e5b97a4860280&oe=5B44D749)
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: 230RN on March 03, 2018, 03:08:09 PM



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Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: gunsmith on March 03, 2018, 09:14:45 PM
that photo of the moms demanding fascism really made me chuckle.
having to come up with a reasonable rebuttal rather that the typical echo chamber of insults they're
used to must have been disconcerting.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: DustinD on April 02, 2018, 11:22:26 PM
Several more bills were introduced and died on the vine. Some would have banned basically everything.

Republicans signaled a willingness to cave on bumpstocks but between Rob Doar's (political director of the Gun Owners Caucus) great lobbying work, great support from pro-gun people, a lack of time, and the anti-gun people not being able to behave themselves in the hearing rooms that was defeated. minnlawyer.com/2018/03/27/protest-inadvertently-silences-gun-bill (https://minnlawyer.com/2018/03/27/protest-inadvertently-silences-gun-bill/)

The MN Gun Owners Caucus is hosting a big rally on April 28th at the Capitol steps. The media, some good speakers, and several politicians will be there. About a thousand people have signed up to go on Facebook, with another four thousand saying they are interested. The event is also being pushed by GOCRA, the NRA, and state GOP.

www.facebook.com/events/610461919313871 (https://www.facebook.com/events/610461919313871)

www.gunowners.mn (https://www.gunowners.mn/)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/29871605_924889357680556_6476131786849052705_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGO3jWYx0BeDdVoMcV6iM_CeI7YSVzbbKJrgsGXIS9dUp9SQoMu0vFHqtOjcTeRM2F9viJF-1g8RYww-xJzA6X7Ly-7V_WjB5zyMXaZczQXHg&oh=ff0de81082092a15e9283f243d8aee5b&oe=5B2B91E8)
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: gunsmith on April 03, 2018, 02:24:13 PM
Quote
the anti-gun people not being able to behave themselves in the hearing rooms that was defeated.

this is the seed of their own destruction, reliance on lies and insults eventually destroys them.
"guns are bad" is not a logical argument.
It can't win in the court of reason and discourse.
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 03, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
this is the seed of their own destruction, reliance on lies and insults eventually destroys them.
"guns are bad" is not a logical argument.
It can't win in the court of reason and discourse.


"court of reason and discourse" - what country is that in?
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: Scout26 on April 03, 2018, 02:42:45 PM


This picture was taken by the Star Tribune and posted by them. I don't think the anti-gun crowd liked our testimony.
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28467931_908297352673090_4395331946400994704_n.jpg?oh=7d000a3e703e0549698e5b97a4860280&oe=5B44D749)

This is, by definition, Schadenfreude....

 [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Minnesota Gun Activism 2018
Post by: Scout26 on April 03, 2018, 02:44:57 PM
Good for MN.  Not looking so good right now in IL.

Yep, the legislature already passed a dealer licencing bill (which is designed to shut down every FFL in the state).  Now we're trying to muster enough "No" votes to prevent an override of the Governor's veto.