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Title: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: just Warren on March 04, 2018, 07:56:09 PM: I'm looking for pics of the more rounded, or bulbous, or awkward-ish planes that might not make an ordinary list of best aesthetics.

Put these air-frames in their own list and let's see some pics!
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 04, 2018, 08:34:35 PM: (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4760/40581996072_4dce7db2df.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24Q6kzs)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4747/25753502547_a8887cb696.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FeKr4Z)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4770/39913618504_f13e51aa93.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23P2Jdh)

Bunch a danged ole whiners...
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: freakazoid on March 04, 2018, 08:42:09 PM: RKL, He's asking for ones that wouldn't fit in a best aesthetics list. =)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 04, 2018, 09:35:56 PM: A-10 Warthog!

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elec-intro.com%2FEX%2F05-14-19%2Fa10warthog2pu9.jpg&hash=41a6238af9fd43f5b3a37636966e1bd31ca0f604)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: grampster on March 04, 2018, 10:06:33 PM: I think the Warthog is a really cool looking plane.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Scout26 on March 04, 2018, 10:10:24 PM: please use {img width=800} to unembiggenate the pics you post. Then we don't have to scroll side to side to see them.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: French G. on March 04, 2018, 10:12:33 PM: Antonov AN-2
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: just Warren on March 04, 2018, 10:25:11 PM: Quote from: French G. on March 04, 2018, 10:12:33 PM
Antonov AN-2

It is pretty. I bet it looked retro even the retro days.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Andiron on March 04, 2018, 10:31:24 PM: (https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--R1QKa_Z6--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/dp4hskmugrgekp5emudv.jpg)

awkward looking bastard.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 04, 2018, 11:10:22 PM: Reminds me of the Guppy.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airliners.net%2Fphotos%2Fairliners%2F4%2F0%2F7%2F1557704.jpg&hash=ee4cc2efd76909ae50950d5350a1e1e5130f9141)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 05, 2018, 12:58:35 AM: Hadley page Victor

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airpowerworld.info%2Fother-military-aircraft%2Fhandley-page-victor-k2-tanker.jpg&hash=a4702b2fc9a3b8b0e93c5bc721f80cf1ca39459f)

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 01:16:51 AM: ^^^
I like that one
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 01:19:18 AM: (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hD4hz8TFSAI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 01:20:57 AM: (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1lkD-bu44XU/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 01:27:37 AM: I always loved the Stuka's looks
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcaviator.com.au%2Fstore%2Fimages%2FD%2FMilViz-Stuka-FSX-P3D-PCAviatorAustralia-8.jpg&hash=da6b535b9116bcaf34d96856b86a576b012d9ce1)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: 230RN on March 05, 2018, 01:58:33 AM: Quote from: Amy Schumer on March 04, 2018, 10:10:24 PM
please use {img width=800} to unembiggenate the pics you post. Then we don't have to scroll side to side to see them.

"800" for unembiggenating is still too big for some enlargination/screen resolutions. Try {img width=400} pls.

I agree with grampster about the Warthog actually being pretty, but this one has too much makeup.

(https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https:%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F73%2Fc0%2F56%2F73c056283c494ef261bf053c899264f8.jpg&sp=8b74c176c2729ee1348070201e1ebe71)

But I think it's.... ummmm.... "shapely."

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elec-intro.com%2FEX%2F05-14-19%2Fa10warthog2pu9.jpg&hash=41a6238af9fd43f5b3a37636966e1bd31ca0f604)

(The above were set for width=400.)

This one is set for 800:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elec-intro.com%2FEX%2F05-14-19%2Fa10warthog2pu9.jpg&hash=41a6238af9fd43f5b3a37636966e1bd31ca0f604)

Thanks for the suggestion, Amy. I'm surprised nobody's brought that up before. I learned about the width thing from HeroHog a while ago.

REF (A similar thread from another board)
http://oldafsarge.blogspot.com/2015/09/thanks-russia-you-almost-ruined-it.html
Terry
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 05, 2018, 02:27:19 AM: I've actually seen A-10s flying overhead. They are very capable aircraft, but man they are UGLEEEEEEE!
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 05, 2018, 02:37:55 AM: Howard Hughes' Spruce Goose:

(https://latimesphoto.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/fa_396_47gooseflys2a_970.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 04:52:30 AM: I reset my images from 800 to 640.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: K Frame on March 05, 2018, 06:58:42 AM: Damn, Larry! Resize your freaking pics!
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: K Frame on March 05, 2018, 07:03:14 AM: Try not to screech in terror... The Amiot 143

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aviastar.org%2Fpictures%2Ffrance%2Famiot-143.jpg&hash=51f5bb295707cde03af4909c4014b050bd1354a5)

Then there's America's contribution... the B-24

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flugzeuginfo.net%2Facimages%2Fconsolidatedb24aliberator_guilhermebystronski.jpg&hash=faf02d36627ace3daa5a742b61e1789fa65d00fe)

And the Brits had the Blackburn Roc...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Blackburn_Roc.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: MikeB on March 05, 2018, 08:18:27 AM: OV-1 Mohawk. Can’t really post pictures at the moment, but plenty at the Wikipedia sight

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_OV-1_Mohawk
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 05, 2018, 10:06:14 AM: PZL 104. Looks like some kind of science experiment gone wrong.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Wilga35A_RA-2284G_%28remix%29.jpg)

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumbs-prod.si-cdn.com%2FPo_TOuMapqkWNLabnxVZev9MMNc%3D%2F1024x596%2Fhttps%3A%2F%2Fpublic-media.smithsonianmag.com%2Ffiler%2Fc6%2Fc1%2Fc6c13340-68b7-4718-b8f5-9c350af132cf%2Fpzl-104_wilga.jpg&hash=00cd40e518252c8afc7ca3e1caaec7f5499b4fdb)

For those unfamiliar with resizing a photo... Using Amy Schumer's advice above I played a bit and finally figured out the proper syntax for inserting the size parameter into the img link.

1. Click MODIFY in the top right corner of your post.
2. Scroll down and find the line of text where your image link is inserted. At the beginning of the text you should see "img" in brackets.
3. Between the "g" in "img" and the closing bracket, type in a single space and then the text "width=800" (text only, no quotation marks). Also, there should be no space between the "0" in "800" and the closing bracket.
4. Click SAVE.

Brad
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HankB on March 05, 2018, 11:31:03 AM: I always thought these were cool looking . . .

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Consolidated_PBY-5A_Catalina_in_flight_%28cropped%29.jpg/1200px-Consolidated_PBY-5A_Catalina_in_flight_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 12:50:37 PM: Code: [Select]
[img width=640] -OR- [img height=480]
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 12:52:10 PM: Surprised no one has posted the BUFF yet!
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 05, 2018, 01:37:45 PM: Quote from: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Surprised no one has posted the BUFF yet!

The BUFF is fairly sleek.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: MikeB on March 05, 2018, 01:43:56 PM: Quote from: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Surprised no one has posted the BUFF yet!

The Brewster or the de Havilland?
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: bedlamite on March 05, 2018, 01:46:46 PM: I don't know if I'd call it attractive, but it has a certain utilitarian appeal:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goodall.com.au%2Fphotographs%2Faerial-agriculture-2%2FTairtruk-TRB-AY-5.67KKK.jpg&hash=f6fdc909ececd33bf66cf23173bbc09e5a6bd5bb)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 05, 2018, 01:48:56 PM: ^^^^

The Thai Air Force/Navy always had some of those parked at U-Tapao when we went there. A fairly ungainly looking plane to be sure.

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 05, 2018, 02:10:05 PM: Quote from: bedlamite on March 05, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
I don't know if I'd call it attractive, but it has a certain utilitarian appeal:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goodall.com.au%2Fphotographs%2Faerial-agriculture-2%2FTairtruk-TRB-AY-5.67KKK.jpg&hash=f6fdc909ececd33bf66cf23173bbc09e5a6bd5bb)

Every time I see an AirTruck I think of Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-iDWqz9VExnQ%2FVQPJzwsPYmI%2FAAAAAAAAJGk%2Fo0A3Q9BChUc%2Fs1600%2Ffianlchase10.jpg&hash=0a977e81b9b5b9e4770ab2b5ef377507beaef103)

Brad
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 05, 2018, 02:17:34 PM: Quote from: MikeB on March 05, 2018, 01:43:56 PM
The Brewster or the de Havilland?

Or Boeing?
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 05, 2018, 02:37:12 PM: This has always been one of my favorite planes, if I had the money and the time I would own one.

Antonov AN2

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Antonov_An-2_SP-AIN_(8440879513).jpg)

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 06:56:12 PM: Boeing B-52A Come on, after all, BUFF = Big, Ugly, Fat, F...ornicator

(https://i1.wp.com/www.avgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/b-52-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 07:04:28 PM: Love this lumpy, bumpy, old bird! The Boeing B-29 Superfortress.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd2rormqr1qwzpz.cloudfront.net%2Fphotos%2F2016%2F01%2F27%2F85154-rininger_2.jpg&hash=d79f0e37054e904a72e8196659a5113874e326ec)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 05, 2018, 07:07:22 PM: This was always my favorite picture of the B52:

(https://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/B-52-without-tail-696x515.jpg)

And my second favorite, delivering Freedom by the ton. ;)

(https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.437374.1478201407!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/image.jpg)

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 11:10:51 PM: Absolutely amazing machines and the newest one flying today is OLD!
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Scout26 on March 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM: The C-23 Sherpa. Flew in one in 1989 from Zweibrucken to RAF Mildenhall and back. Cool plane.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn-2.olive-drab.com%2Fimages%2Fid_c23sherpa_03_700.jpg&hash=6da51cc01a82cd3b92a2ed69270214e845aef861)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: makattak on March 06, 2018, 02:59:03 PM: I'm going to put in another vote for the Warthog.

I've loved that thing since I was little, even before I learned what a marvel it is.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Unisaw on March 06, 2018, 03:23:02 PM: OV-1 Mohawk fits the bulbous and non-sleek criteria, but I wouldn't say it was one of my favorites!
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Unisaw on March 06, 2018, 03:27:15 PM: Here's another airplane that is decidedly unsexy: the Caribou.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 06, 2018, 03:39:25 PM: Quote from: Amy Schumer on March 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
The C-23 Sherpa. Flew in one back in 1989 from Zweibrucken to RAF Mildenhall and back in 1989. Cool plane.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn-2.olive-drab.com%2Fimages%2Fid_c23sherpa_03_700.jpg&hash=6da51cc01a82cd3b92a2ed69270214e845aef861)

I think it was Frontier that used to fly those in the US. I took one from Lawton, OK to DFW once.

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: dogmush on March 06, 2018, 03:45:01 PM: That's an adorable little gun the A-10 has. >:D =D

(https://i.imgur.com/YXPlABK.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 06, 2018, 03:50:06 PM: A couple of the planes I crewed on were definitely not sleek.

C1A

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vr-24.org%2FAircraft_photos%2FC1A034_traps_reilly82.jpg&hash=50e50711e6970028104b394ff1ca7fe2d809dc28)

C2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_iB9Gy93Cg

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 06, 2018, 09:05:46 PM: My foster brother used to pilot these:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fg4.img-dpreview.com%2F89A794C815D64249865DA2F4A852CFA8.jpg&hash=0c90f907e994d58e8610bf820472fed55afcd009)

Was a USN pilot during the Bay of Pigs incident...
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: JN01 on March 06, 2018, 09:15:10 PM: Gee Bee racer
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Andiron on March 06, 2018, 09:24:44 PM: Quote from: JN01 on March 06, 2018, 09:15:10 PM
Gee Bee racer

Damn you, now I have to go re-watch The Rocketeer.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Andiron on March 06, 2018, 09:26:54 PM: (https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgproc.airliners.net%2Fphotos%2Fairliners%2F5%2F4%2F1%2F1733145.jpg%3Fv%3Dv40&hash=bfee5cece21293851f17078f4e2b2193b0cbb50f)

Always liked how aggressive these looked, and slightly bulbous with the odd canopy.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: 230RN on March 07, 2018, 07:07:31 AM: Quote from: bedlamite on March 05, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
I don't know if I'd call it attractive, but it has a certain utilitarian appeal:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goodall.com.au%2Fphotographs%2Faerial-agriculture-2%2FTairtruk-TRB-AY-5.67KKK.jpg&hash=f6fdc909ececd33bf66cf23173bbc09e5a6bd5bb)

Looks to me like the pilot is praying. For something. Or for not-something. Or for more headroom.

Terry
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: K Frame on March 07, 2018, 07:54:07 AM: What the hell is that thing? It looks like a cross between a P-40, a Scootypuff Junior, and a NAA Mustang.

Quote from: Andiron on March 06, 2018, 09:26:54 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgproc.airliners.net%2Fphotos%2Fairliners%2F5%2F4%2F1%2F1733145.jpg%3Fv%3Dv40&hash=bfee5cece21293851f17078f4e2b2193b0cbb50f)

Always liked how aggressive these looked, and slightly bulbous with the odd canopy.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: dogmush on March 07, 2018, 08:06:22 AM: Pretty sure that's the new Light Ground Attack plane. A-something or other Super Tucano.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 07, 2018, 09:03:27 AM: Quote from: dogmush on March 07, 2018, 08:06:22 AM
Pretty sure that's the new Light Ground Attack plane. A-something or other Super Tucano.

One of the two still in contention to replace the A10, so they say. The A-29 Super Tucano, the other is the Beechcraft AT-6 Wolverine.

(https://militaryedge.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/AT-6_6-960x400.jpg)

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:05:11 AM: Quote from: BobR on March 07, 2018, 09:03:27 AM
One of the two still in contention to replace the A10, so they say. The A-29 Super Tucano, the other is the Beechcraft AT-6 Wolverine.

bob

Replace the Hog with something that has 1/3^rd the ordinance load, 1/5^th the combat capacity, and 1/10^th the crew protection/survivability? Yeah, must be a military "upgrade" program.

Surely they are trying to find something for a support role slotted between the A-10 and ground attack systems, something cheaper to operate in large numbers for roles where the Hog would be spendy overkill. Supplanting the 'Bolt II with either of those aircraft would be, in a word, madness. They simply don't have the capability.

Brad
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Ben on March 07, 2018, 10:11:47 AM: Quote from: Brad Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:05:11 AM
and 1/10th the crew protection/survivability? Yeah, must be a military "upgrade" program.

That's the one that would worry me as I sit in my armchair. My understanding is that an A-10 can be pretty shot to *expletive deleted*it and keep flying as the pilot sits in that armored cockpit. Just that "armored bathtub" alone would be a lot of weight on the lighter Tucano.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Andiron on March 07, 2018, 04:45:19 PM: dogmush and BobR got it. Embraer Super Tucano.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: RocketMan on March 08, 2018, 04:58:19 PM: The NAA B-25 Mitchell has always looked cool.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Andiron on March 08, 2018, 08:40:22 PM: *expletive deleted*it, if we're shifting gears to cool planes..

Flying Tigers Curtis P40

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-0xpp1P94ykE%2FU9cWtcvdVvI%2FAAAAAAAAK4Q%2FsxHjuzk4kAA%2Fs1600%2FCurtiss%2BP-40%2BFlying%2BTigers%2B0012.jpg&hash=8e28c9a3020ed73308f8bb07f70f5840f0ec557d)

Classic.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 08, 2018, 08:43:54 PM: P-38 Lightning gets me all hot and a bothered!

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F22200000%2FLockheed-P-38-Lightning-great-planes-22258077-1200-801.jpg&hash=8345995baeb708717518148fffeb07c8012c6718)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 08, 2018, 08:46:55 PM: and don't even get me started on the SR-71!

(https://wallpapercave.com/wp/EaQxK6h.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: 230RN on March 12, 2018, 06:58:41 PM: Quote from: Andiron on March 06, 2018, 09:26:54 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgproc.airliners.net%2Fphotos%2Fairliners%2F5%2F4%2F1%2F1733145.jpg%3Fv%3Dv40&hash=bfee5cece21293851f17078f4e2b2193b0cbb50f)

Always liked how aggressive these looked, and slightly bulbous with the odd canopy.

OK, it's been 4 days since the last post and nobody has mentioned that thing under/by the spinner. Is that a five-bladed prop, and they have to keep that particular blade warm with a blanket or something?

Is it a tree trunk growing out of the pavement?

Is it someone in a Ghilly suit standing near it?

Is it Chewbacca's kid brother?

I'm sure when someone identifies it, I'll give myself a dope slap, so forgive this groundlubber, but WTF is that?

Terry, iggerant groundlubber, 230RN
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 12, 2018, 07:11:55 PM: 5 bladed prop, that is a people that is masked by the blade at the 6 oclock position. From the size of the heels I might even say it is a female person or somebody wearing some really high heeled cowboy boots. Might even be two people standing side by side and they are masked by the prop blade.

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: 230RN on March 13, 2018, 12:41:15 PM: Quote from: BobR on March 12, 2018, 07:11:55 PM
5 bladed prop, that is a people that is masked by the blade at the 6 oclock position. From the size of the heels I might even say it is a female person or somebody wearing some really high heeled cowboy boots. Might even be two people standing side by side and they are masked by the prop blade.

bob

:facepalm:

OK, without blowing up the image and looking closely it's hard to distinguish a prop blade, so thank you. Be sure of your prop blade and what lies beyond.

Wow, with five blades and what looks like a sewer pipe for an exhaust stack, that must be some hell of an engine in there.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 13, 2018, 01:11:10 PM: Quote from: 230RN on March 13, 2018, 12:41:15 PM

Wow, with five blades and what looks like a sewer pipe for an exhaust stack, that must be some hell of an engine in there.

Technically, it's a turbine rather than an "engine."
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: bedlamite on March 13, 2018, 01:13:47 PM: Quote from: 230RN on March 13, 2018, 12:41:15 PM
:facepalm:

OK, without blowing up the image and looking closely it's hard to distinguish a prop blade, so thank you. Be sure of your prop blade and what lies beyond.

Wow, with five blades and what looks like a sewer pipe for an exhaust stack, that must be some hell of an engine in there.

Plane is a Super Tucano, here's the engine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_Canada_PT6
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: BobR on March 13, 2018, 01:31:57 PM: That PT6 has been quite the workhorse of the flying turbines for quite a few decades.

bob
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: 230RN on March 13, 2018, 02:56:13 PM: Quote from: Hawkmoon on March 13, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
Technically, it's a turbine rather than an "engine."

Well, my original training was that an "engine" was anything run directly by heat. Other things were "motors*," so that's a new one on me. Is there a modern terminology for a rocket what-I-would-call-"engine?"

Not that I really care, except for finding out how the etymology worked out.

I can see this one devolving into a clip v. mag and rifle v. gun thing, but what's the latest poop on "engine?" Is there a formal differentiation set up by some committee of hardasses declaring that a turbine engine was not an engine? :rofl:

Terry, 230RN

* Although, admittedly, sometimes the distinction is blurred. Is this an engine or a motor?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Crookes_radiometer.jpg)
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: dogmush on March 13, 2018, 03:07:24 PM: Quote from: Hawkmoon on March 13, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
Technically, it's a turbine rather than an "engine."

I was always taught that a gas turbine was a sub-category of Internal Combustion Engines.

For what it's worth, Wikipedia, that repository of unimpeachable knowledge, agrees with me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine

Quote
The term internal combustion engine usually refers to an engine in which combustion is intermittent, such as the more familiar four-stroke and two-stroke piston engines, along with variants, such as the six-stroke piston engine and the Wankel rotary engine. A second class of internal combustion engines use continuous combustion: gas turbines, jet engines and most rocket engines, each of which are internal combustion engines on the same principle as previously described.[1][2] Firearms are also a form of internal combustion engine.[2]

*That last sentence is kinda interesting. The footnote goes to Engineering Fundamentals of the Internal Combustion Engine by Willard W. Pulkrabek. could be interesting reading.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: 230RN on March 13, 2018, 03:23:44 PM: Quote
*That last sentence is kinda interesting. The footnote goes to Engineering Fundamentals of the Internal Combustion Engine by Willard W. Pulkrabek. Could be interesting reading.

I note the "usually."
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 13, 2018, 03:37:45 PM: Quote

A motor is a machine that converts other forms of energy into mechanical energy and so imparts motion.

An engine is a motor that converts thermal energy to mechanical work.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/42027/semantic-difference-between-engine-and-motor (https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/42027/semantic-difference-between-engine-and-motor)

That's pretty much always been my working definition.

All engines are motors but not all motors are engines... =D
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: HeroHog on March 13, 2018, 08:08:57 PM: I always heard rockets had "motors" for what that is worth.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 13, 2018, 10:15:37 PM: Quote from: dogmush on March 13, 2018, 03:07:24 PM
I was always taught that a gas turbine was a sub-category of Internal Combustion Engines.

For what it's worth, Wikipedia, that repository of unimpeachable knowledge, agrees with me.

Far be it from me to argue with Wikipedia. Okay, gas turbines are infernal combobulation engines.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: 230RN on March 14, 2018, 09:53:07 AM: Geez, I thunk a gas turbine was not necessarily an internal combustion engine. As in steam turbine or wind turbine, all powered by moving gas. As opposed to water turbine, suchlike in hydroelectric power generation. And does it matter whether the machine moves the working fluid or the working fluid moves the machine?

I'll have to shut up and sit back and see how all this settles out.

Surely, with all those standardization committees meeting all over the world all the time, you'd'a thunk the nomenclature would be sorted out by now.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: K Frame on March 14, 2018, 11:15:00 AM: "Geez, I thunk a gas turbine was not necessarily an internal combustion engine."

As I understand it, yes, you're correct. Not all gas/diesel turbines are internal combustion engines, although as I understand it external combustion gas/diesel turbines are pretty rare.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 14, 2018, 08:50:59 PM: Quote from: HeroHog on March 05, 2018, 01:19:18 AM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hD4hz8TFSAI/maxresdefault.jpg)

I give up -- what IS that thing?
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: just Warren on March 14, 2018, 08:57:31 PM: AK-747.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: RocketMan on March 14, 2018, 11:57:45 PM: Quote from: Hawkmoon on March 14, 2018, 08:50:59 PM
I give up -- what IS that thing?

A photo-shopped fantasy airplane.
Title: Re: Of all the non-sleek planes out there which do you find the most attractive?
Post by: TommyGunn on March 15, 2018, 12:36:49 AM: It must have truly gnarly shock absorbers .. [tinfoil]..