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Title: Small whole chicken
Post by: sumpnz on May 08, 2018, 10:38:31 PM
As mentioned in French's chicken thread on the prepping board I had to cull a meat chicken, so I have a small whole chicken I need to cook.  Haven't weighed it, but it's probably all of 2lbs. 

First thought was to just do a simple dry brine (just coat it with a thin layer of salt with a little baking powder mixed in and leave it covered in the fridge) tomorrow morning and roast it whole tomorrow evening. 

But thought I'd see if y'all have a better idea.  Seems kinda small to cut up, but if a young bird like that screams out to be fried, or cut for something in particular, I'm willing to consider alternatives.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: charby on May 08, 2018, 11:02:43 PM
I've deep fried Cornish game hens before. I brined them in town sugar and salt for 24hrs before frying.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: makattak on May 09, 2018, 08:21:28 AM
I've deep fried Cornish game hens before. I brined them in town sugar and salt for 24hrs before frying.

That's BRILLIANT!
 
We've got a little deep fryer that ought to be perfectly sized for a Cornish game hen.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 09, 2018, 08:52:29 AM
Town sugar?

Country boy putting on airs...

Add a little acid to your brine (lemon or orange juice). For some reason it seems to help with smoke penetration when you cook it.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: zxcvbob on May 09, 2018, 10:27:15 AM
Baking powder?
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 09, 2018, 11:07:43 AM
Baking powder?

Huh?
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: zxcvbob on May 09, 2018, 11:21:48 AM
Huh?

From the first post:
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First thought was to just do a simple dry brine (just coat it with a thin layer of salt with a little baking powder mixed in and leave it covered in the fridge) tomorrow morning and roast it whole tomorrow evening. 
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 09, 2018, 11:37:17 AM
Oh! I missed that.

Yeah, I don't understand the baking powder either.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: BobR on May 09, 2018, 01:50:50 PM
Oh! I missed that.

Yeah, I don't understand the baking powder either.

It will help make the skin the crispiest, crackliest skin you have ever had on a chicken (or turkey).

bob
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: MillCreek on May 09, 2018, 04:08:02 PM
So I wonder if this is akin to the Chinese food technique of velveting.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: charby on May 09, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
Town sugar?

Country boy putting on airs...

Add a little acid to your brine (lemon or orange juice). For some reason it seems to help with smoke penetration when you cook it.

Brown sugar you country bumpkin
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: sumpnz on May 09, 2018, 11:41:05 PM
It will help make the skin the crispiest, crackliest skin you have ever had on a chicken (or turkey).

bob

^^^ Yeah, that.

BTW, breast meat was fabulous.  Dark meat was a little chewy, but fantastic flavor.  Skin was to die for.  I think a little learning curve will be needed to get the thighs and drumsticks right.  But overall I'd prefer the Freedom Rangers to store bought by a long way.

Don't have the ability to deep fry even a small chicken at this juncture.  So it was roasted as described above.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 10, 2018, 07:49:34 AM
Interesting. Never heard that about baking powder. I'll have to give that a try.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: Jim147 on May 10, 2018, 09:05:28 AM
I've used cornstarch but haven't tried baking powder. I'll have to remember that.

I like to cook them in the Weber with an old skillet full of water right in the center and the coals around that. I use my grate with the wing so I can add charcoal and cook it slow.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 10, 2018, 09:21:48 AM
Brown sugar you country bumpkin

I grew up IN town, so I get to use Town Sugar by right!

Just like I get to eat City Ham by right!
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 10, 2018, 09:24:01 AM
I had never heard of velveting before a few months ago. I never gave it much thought because I only very rarely try my hand at cooking Chinese food. I don't want to appropriate cultures and all that happy happy...

Here's an explanation of velveting, why it works, and how to use it to your advantage.

https://food-hacks.wonderhowto.com/how-to/velveting-meat-best-kept-chinese-restaurant-secret-0164737/
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: lupinus on May 10, 2018, 10:22:30 AM
Hmm.

I often buy chicken leg quarters for low and slow BBQ. I wonder what effect on the skin a little baking powder in my dry rub would produce. This shall require contemplating.

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Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: zxcvbob on May 10, 2018, 11:26:02 AM
Are y'all really talking about baking powder?  Or baking soda?
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: sumpnz on May 10, 2018, 12:11:04 PM
Baking powder. Which is actually baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) plus a couple acids to improve the leavening effect in baked goods like breads and cakes.

For dry brining chicken/turkey mix at a rate of 2tbsp baking powder to 3/8-half a cup of kosher salt (depending on how fine the salt is).
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: Ben on May 10, 2018, 06:15:51 PM
So what - we're switching from mayo to baking powder? Will you guys make up your minds!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: lupinus on May 10, 2018, 06:28:05 PM
So what - we're switching from mayo to baking powder? Will you guys make up your minds!  :laugh:
Just mix some baking soda into the mayo 😂

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Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: makattak on May 11, 2018, 09:51:17 AM
So what - we're switching from mayo to baking powder? Will you guys make up your minds!  :laugh:

I tried the velveting that Mike linked to last night AND I also used mayonnaise. (Two different items, not at the same time.)

The pork made with the velveting was good. I used some hoisin sauce after frying it up and it was tasty.

However, the large pork chops that I coated with a thin layer of mayo and a ginger-spice rub were amazing.

I'm sticking with the mayo.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: zxcvbob on May 11, 2018, 12:20:45 PM
I've heard velveteen rabbit is good.   :angel:
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 11, 2018, 01:44:32 PM
I've heard velveteen rabbit is good.   :angel:

Yeah, but you only really enjoy it after you get scarlet fever.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: sumpnz on May 11, 2018, 01:57:34 PM
Ahhh, APS thread drift.  Roasting a chicken to scarlet fever in under 1 page.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: Ben on May 11, 2018, 02:15:35 PM
Yeah, but you only really enjoy it after you get scarlet fever.


Mmmmm. Scaaarlet feeever....

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Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: K Frame on May 11, 2018, 02:20:37 PM
We are accomplished drifters...
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: Ben on May 11, 2018, 02:24:24 PM
We are accomplished drifters...

I missed the drift line at work once. That was fun.
Title: Re: Small whole chicken
Post by: French G. on May 13, 2018, 09:12:46 PM
I tried the velveting thing last night and liked it. Did beef kabobs on the grill, marinated the meat a few hours ahead in cornstarch, balsamic, water, soy sauce and spices. Really good, I started with a lower grade meat, boneless country style ribs and cut them into chunks. The sirloin kebab chunks were a little off the price chart. Then I crispy friend abunch of brussel sprouts in bacon grease.