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Title: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: Ben on May 12, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
Take that Neil DeGrasse *expletive deleted*bag! Hahahahaha!

Because of all the exoplanets being discovered, it looks like "planet" may be redefined (again), bringing Pluto back into the fold. It was interesting to read that the redefinition that kicked Pluto out was hastily drawn up by only 4% of the Astronomers at that particular IAU meeting, apparently because they all wanted to go home.  :laugh:

Anyway, (hopefully) welcome back Pluto! I was on your side the whole time!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/07/yes-pluto-is-a-planet/?noredirect=on
https://www.space.com/40550-pluto-planet-debate-flares-up-again.html

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Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: MechAg94 on May 12, 2018, 10:59:54 PM
From what I heard, there are other objects they have found that are bigger than Pluto.  How many "planets" do we have? 
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: BobR on May 13, 2018, 10:46:51 AM
From what I heard, there are other objects they have found that are bigger than Pluto.  How many "planets" do we have? 

57...... oh wait... that's states!!!


bob
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 13, 2018, 11:26:57 AM
From what I heard, there are other objects they have found that are bigger than Pluto.  How many "planets" do we have? 

If Pluto is back to being a planet (I never acknowledged that it wasn't), then what about Transpluto? Sedna? Chiron? Eris, Haumea, Makemake, Ceres?
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: bedlamite on May 13, 2018, 11:57:17 AM
If Pluto is back to being a planet (I never acknowledged that it wasn't), then what about Transpluto? Sedna? Chiron? Eris, Haumea, Makemake, Ceres?

I don't care about all those, I want to know where Planet X is so we can get Godzilla and Monster Zero to fight!
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 13, 2018, 12:23:08 PM
If Pluto is back to being a planet (I never acknowledged that it wasn't), then what about Transpluto? Sedna? Chiron? Eris, Haumea, Makemake, Ceres?

I think it's imprtant to recognize that the way [some]astronomers refer to these planets is hurtful. They call them "dwarf planets." I thought society had long ago recognized that calling people "dwarfs" is demeaning, insulting, and hurtful, and that the more appropriate terminology is "little people." So those who refer to these planets as "dwarfs" are just being racist, and should be shunned.

If they aren't full-fledged planets, then they're "little planets."
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: Mannlicher on May 13, 2018, 05:57:29 PM
in the end, it's all semantics.  Ceres and Pluto continue to swing around the Sun. 
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: AJ Dual on May 13, 2018, 11:12:58 PM
From what I heard, there are other objects they have found that are bigger than Pluto.  How many "planets" do we have? 

Quaor and Sedena are roughly the same size as Pluto, and there could be hundreds, maybe thousands of similar size objects out in the Kupier Belt and Oort Cloud, some bigger, some smaller. Some of  these newly discovered Plutonians have moons like Pluto does too.  Besides the other criteria for "planet-ness" of orbit circularity, clearing its orbit of competing bodies, being in mostly the same plane of the ecliptic, it was the the probability of many icy dwarves which did the most to demote Pluto.

Because if Pluto is a "planet" then our Solar System could conceivably have a thousand "planets".

Then there is the issue that there is likely a "planet 9" out there, anywhere from Earth-sized to Neptune-sized, based on the gravitational disturbance of the Plutonians and comets we've detected.
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 13, 2018, 11:19:30 PM

Then there is the issue that there is likely a "planet 9" out there, anywhere from Earth-sized to Neptune-sized, based on the gravitational disturbance of the Plutonians and comets we've detected.

That's the one that is sometimes referred to as Transpluto.
Title: Re: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: lupinus on May 14, 2018, 12:09:56 PM
That's the one that is sometimes referred to as Transpluto.
Ah. So planet Jenner?

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Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: TommyGunn on May 21, 2018, 01:57:10 PM
Pluto, a PLANET??!!  Not any more!!! [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: MechAg94 on May 21, 2018, 02:45:41 PM
Pluto, a PLANET??!!  Not any more!!! [tinfoil]
Great, now we have more little Plutonians out there and Iran will have an easier time making nukes. 
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: 230RN on May 21, 2018, 08:47:25 PM
Simple:  Anything with less than the mass or diameter of Pluto is not a planet.  Anything with a mass or diameter equal to or greater than Pluto is a planet.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: AJ Dual on May 22, 2018, 01:58:43 AM
Great, now we have more little Plutonians out there and Iran will have an easier time making nukes. 

Don't worry about that. Planned Plutohood will take care of it.
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: MechAg94 on May 22, 2018, 03:35:25 PM
Don't worry about that. Planned Plutohood will take care of it.
:laugh:
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 22, 2018, 04:50:37 PM
Pluto may or may not be a planet but Uranus is a gas giant.
Title: Re: Pluto is a Planet
Post by: bedlamite on May 22, 2018, 06:00:26 PM
Pluto may or may not be a planet but Uranus is a gas giant.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/04/11/hubble-just-spotted-something-massive-coming-out-of-uranus-6567896