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Title: Parkland revisited
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 05, 2018, 12:02:21 AM
The Coward of Broward is trying to spin the story his way:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/it-was-my-job-and-i-didnt-find-him-stoneman-douglas-resource-officer-remains-haunted-by-massacre/2018/06/04/796f1c16-679d-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?utm_term=.db91db4a1a1c&wpisrc=al_news__alert-national&wpmk=1
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: zxcvbob on June 05, 2018, 12:05:29 AM
He's the real victim, you know.  [barf]
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: KD5NRH on June 05, 2018, 02:52:47 AM
The Coward of Broward is trying to spin the story his way:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/it-was-my-job-and-i-didnt-find-him-stoneman-douglas-resource-officer-remains-haunted-by-massacre/2018/06/04/796f1c16-679d-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?utm_term=.db91db4a1a1c&wpisrc=al_news__alert-national&wpmk=1

OK, problems I'm seeing here that aren't Peterson:
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 05, 2018, 11:14:40 AM
OK, problems I'm seeing here that aren't Peterson:
  • School clearly has some cameras; did they not have any in the halls, and someone who could pull up the feed to tell security where the threat is and confirm it's really a shooter?

You haven't been paying attention. Yes, they had cameras. But nobody (except maybe Peterson, and if he knew he didn't think to tell anyone at the time) realized that the cameras had a built-in 20-minute time delay. When the outside first responders arrived, one of them went to wherever the control room was located and used the video feeds to direct officers to to where he was seeing the shooter. Problem is, by that time the shooter was down the street, having a burger at McDonalds.

 :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: HankB on June 05, 2018, 11:28:50 AM
As I see it, it's the duty of an armed guard - particularly a sworn officer like a sheriff's deputy - to intervene in dangerous situations. Hanging around outside (where it's safe) is reprehensible.

In the case of unarmed guards . . . I really don't blame them for running like hell when shooting breaks out.
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: lupinus on June 05, 2018, 12:22:34 PM
I'd say the things the dude could do to himself, but they'd be far from polite and acceptable. A few of them for the vast majority of the population would also be anatomically impossible.

His current issues warrant zero sympathy imo.

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Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: MechAg94 on June 05, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
I was trying to think of all the issues I have heard about with Parkland.

1.  The officers did not enter the building immediately or even minutes later when more officers were available. 
1A.  This was not just on the one officer, but that decision was backed up by others once more people showed up who were also prevented from immediately entering. 
2.  The killer was a known felon that was never actually tagged with a felony even though he should have been.
3.  As mentioned, the security cameras were on a 20 minute delay that apparently very few people knew about. 

I am sure there are more, but I am drawing a blank.
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: TommyGunn on June 05, 2018, 01:58:02 PM
Really dumb question #5,936,886:

What the h3ll good are "security cameras" if they are on a 20 MINUTE DELAY??!
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: MechAg94 on June 05, 2018, 02:14:12 PM
I heard it speculated that it was done that way to give someone an opportunity to revise or hide incidents that they didn't want to report.  Not sure how that was supposed to happen.
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: makattak on June 05, 2018, 02:46:51 PM
I heard it speculated that it was done that way to give someone an opportunity to revise or hide incidents that they didn't want to report.  Not sure how that was supposed to happen.

I have no idea how that would work, either, but it's really the only explanation that seems plausible. I literally can't think of any other reason for a 20 minute delay in video feed.
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 05, 2018, 04:20:48 PM
If you're just using security cameras so you have evidence for later, which I assume is how most security cameras are used, then I guess it wouldn't hurt anything. Then again, how would it help?

If you're continuously monitoring the feed, then  ???
Title: Re: Parkland revisited
Post by: MechAg94 on June 05, 2018, 05:41:25 PM
If something happens, the person monitoring the cameras is told to go get a cup of coffee at the appropriate time so they don't have to report something happened. 

Best I can come up with.