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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on June 11, 2018, 10:42:43 AM
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This just in: Acording to some SCOTUS justices, ignoring a written notice now means there was no notice.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/11/supreme-court-states-purge-voters-who-dont-vote/587316002/
Justice Stephen Breyer penned an 18-page dissent for the liberal wing of the court, marking the sixth time this term they have dissented as a bloc. He noted that most voters simply ignore the warning notices, leaving their failure to vote as the principal cause for being purged from the rolls.
"More often than not, the state fails to receive anything back from the registrant, and the fact that the state hears nothing from the registrant essentially proves nothing at all," Breyer said.
So, according to the liberal block on the SCOTUS, I should be able to ignore tickets mailed out by red light cameras ... and why bother to pay taxes if all I have to is ignore the tax bills and the government can't prove that I ever received them?
These people are seriously sick in the head.
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To clarify, the USSC upheld the Ohio law that purges voters who haven't voted in 6 years and do NOT respond to written, mailed notices.
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To clarify, the USSC upheld the Ohio law that purges voters who haven't voted in 6 years and do NOT respond to written, mailed notices.
That is so racist.
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How does he propose they should verify their voter roles?
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I will say what I have said before: I think registering to vote should not be easy or convenient. If someone can't be bothered to take responsibility for getting it done, then they don't get to vote.
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To clarify, the USSC upheld the Ohio law that purges voters who haven't voted in 6 years and do NOT respond to written, mailed notices.
Correct. But it was another 5-4 vote. The fact that four justices think failing to respond to a written reminder to verify that you're still alive and in the district should NOT be grounds to remove you from the voter list is depressing.
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What if they reply, in writing, that they are dead?
I'm guessing the Notorious RBG was in the dissent? 'Cuz I'm pretty sure she's dead, and she keeps on going.
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What if they reply, in writing, that they are dead?
I'm guessing the Notorious RBG was in the dissent? 'Cuz I'm pretty sure she's dead, and she keeps on going.
RBG, the wise Latina, Breyer, and Kagan.
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I will say what I have said before: I think registering to vote should not be easy or convenient. If someone can't be bothered to take responsibility for getting it done, then they don't get to vote.
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter...
Can we end "early voting" too? If you've got plans to be out of town on actual election day, make the (very minor) effort to get a *expletive deleted*ing absentee ballot.
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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter...
Can we end "early voting" too? If you've got plans to be out of town on actual election day, make the (very minor) effort to get a *expletive deleted*ing absentee ballot.
I actually really like early mail-in voting, mostly because of my misanthropic tendencies to hate crowds and having no desire to speak to polling place employees.
I would give it all up in a heartbeat though if there was a way to guarantee that the couple million California illegal aliens that vote in every major election were stopped in their tracks. Of course that would also mean firing all the state employees in the CA DMV that are of Mexican decent who sign these people up to vote.
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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter...
Can we end "early voting" too? If you've got plans to be out of town on actual election day, make the (very minor) effort to get a *expletive deleted*ing absentee ballot.
I generally like the whole going down to the polling place to vote process. Being that I live in a small town it usually turns into a bit of a social event.
As to the early voting, twice since I've worked for my current employer I've had short notice work related travel take me out of state on election day. if we did not have early voting at the county election board I would have missed the opportunity to vote against a number of democrats.
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Ohio had a practice of purging voter lists if someone hadn't voted for 2 years, didn't respond to an official letter requesting status information, and then didn't vote for an additional 4 years (6 years no activity).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/us/politics/supreme-court-upholds-ohios-purge-of-voting-rolls.html
Essentially, the left is again decrying the "assault on minority voters" and disenfranchising them by placing barriers between them and the right to vote.
My question is... given that they've already disenfranchised themselves, that means that the left has done a *expletive deleted*it job of getting out its base, so why should they care?
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Ohio had a practice of purging voter lists if someone hadn't voted for 2 years, didn't respond to an official letter requesting status information, and then didn't vote for an additional 4 years (6 years no activity).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/us/politics/supreme-court-upholds-ohios-purge-of-voting-rolls.html
Essentially, the left is again decrying the "assault on minority voters" and disenfranchising them by placing barriers between them and the right to vote.
My question is... given that they've already disenfranchised themselves, that means that the left has done a *expletive deleted*it job of getting out its base, so why should they care?
Because without outdated rolls, how else will they commit election fraud with absentee ballots?
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Because without outdated rolls, how else will they commit election fraud with absentee ballots?
=D
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Well of course people rotting in graves can't respond to letters, and are there for being disenfranchised from casting their democratic vote
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If they haven't voted in 2 years, is that really the fraudulent votes? I guess the screaming and gnashing of teeth would be less if they weren't.
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Welcome to the discussion, Mike:
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=57624.0
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Dang. Completely missed that one.
Way to craft an expository subject line. :rofl:
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I don't know that mail in voting is a good idea.
I am friends with a woman who, in the past, worked at a government office.
She said she would never vote by mail.
She implied that the gov workers threw out votes they didn't like.
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I can live with early voting as long as there are strict rules for picture ID checks.
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I can live with early voting as long as there are strict rules for picture ID checks.
I'm against it. What's the point of establishing, in law, an "election day" if you let anyone who doesn't feel like voting on "election day" to just waltz in whenever they choose?
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I'm against it. What's the point of establishing, in law, an "election day" if you let anyone who doesn't feel like voting on "election day" to just waltz in whenever they choose?
Defiubnitely for it.
1) I worked both early voting and election day this last election. There would still be people in line to vote if everyone had to wait until election day to vote. As it was during early voting we had lines 30-40+ deep all day, every day.
2) Since early the early voting places are open to any voter in the country, they have to show ID as we look them up by address On election day all they do is tell us their name, we look them up in a book, they sign, we compare that the signatures kinda/sorta almost look like th one when they signed their name when they registered to vote x number of year ago. (es, Illinois is farked and full of fraud)
3) It's also great for people that work and can't or have a hard time getting to the polls on election day, especially around here where so many people commute into Chicago. (Leave early and come back late).
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Topix Merginated.
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I actually really like early mail-in voting, mostly because of my misanthropic tendencies to hate crowds and having no desire to speak to polling place employees.
Me too, for those and my own limited mobility reasons. It's also good to post the envelope the ballot was mailed in on my door with a note on it that I had voted already. Discourages campaign literature and "Hi, I'm running for Dingus Majesticus in this county...." door-knocks.
I would give it all up in a heartbeat though if there was a way to guarantee that the couple million California illegal aliens that vote in every major election were stopped in their tracks. Of course that would also mean firing all the state employees in the CA DMV that are of Mexican descent who sign these people up to vote.
I'm drifting toward that pattern of thought, too. After all, the Parties both offer rides to get to the polls.
Trouble is, once a (any) single-minded voting bloc reaches a certain point, it's kitty bar the door.
No offense to any particular voting bloc, or to kitties.
Terry
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Trouble is, once a (any) single-minded voting bloc reaches a certain point, it's kitty bar the door.
Forgot to use spell chack again, eh? :old:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006011003999&guccounter=1
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3) It's also great for people that work and can't or have a hard time getting to the polls on election day, especially around here where so many people commute into Chicago. (Leave early and come back late).
Failing to see the downside there >:D
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Forgot to use spell chack again, eh? :old:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006011003999&guccounter=1
Spell chack. Always use spell chack.
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1) I worked both early voting and election day this last election. There would still be people in line to vote if everyone had to wait until election day to vote. As it was during early voting we had lines 30-40+ deep all day, every day.
This; I've made the mistake of waiting until Election Day to go vote, and what would have been a 5 minute process on the second day of early voting was over an hour because of the line.
I would prefer if no results were published until all of them are in, though; more than once we've lost turnout in local elections due to someone having a solid lead in early voting, then they lost when the Election Day turnout was 90+% against them entirely because so many of their voters figured they didn't need to bother, and the opponent knew exactly how many they needed to drum up.
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Early voting is different from mail-in, absentee ballots. Election day should be election day, not election week or election month. If you can't make it to the polling place on election day, get an absentee ballot and mail it in. But absentee ballots should not be opened or counted until election day.
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Forgot to use spell chack again, eh? :old:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006011003999&guccounter=1
Another example of too great a reliance on what some internet site says. Kitty bar the door may be a regionalism, and I prefer it even though I'm well aware of the more common "Katy bar the door."
See:
http://www.yourdictionary.com/kitty-bar-the-door
I was delighted that at last someone added the definition of "recipe" to the word "receipt," which is (or was) a regionalism in the southeastern states, with cookbooks entitled "Receipts," according to my personal experience of dining in Georgia.
(I finally found that particular "receipt" regionalism in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, which is slowly gathering my respect.)
Terry
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No. :P
Receipt for recipe might be a regionalism now, but I think that may be a recent development. On Downton Abbey (set in early 20th-century England), the characters would occasionally refer to "receipts" for cooking. (Though I suppose they may be pronouncing "recipe" as "ress-eep.") When my wife took her Victorian mansion cooking class, in Wisconsin, they told us the recipes would have been called "receipts" during the period.
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Failing to see the downside there >:D
Republicans work in Chicago and live in the Suburbs. Democrats live in Chicago.
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Early voting is different from mail-in, absentee ballots. Election day should be election day, not election week or election month. If you can't make it to the polling place on election day, get an absentee ballot and mail it in. But absentee ballots should not be opened or counted until election day.
And we'd still be counting absentee ballots.
I will point out out that in order to early vote in Illinois, you have to produce ad valid state ID showing your current address since the early polling places are "county wide" as opposed to just your precinct where you give us your name, we look you up in the book, tear out the application to vote and then compare that your current signature matches the signature from you registered to vote.
Also early voting machines are not downloaded until election day. We check the counts on each machine (by serial number) both morning and night to make sure they match. The room is secured over night and the county provides security. That way early voting has no influence on election day turnout as no one knows any vote totals.