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Title: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on October 30, 2018, 06:15:09 PM
Poop storm today in the Midwest, even being reported in Oregon.

https://www.ktvz.com/news/politics/land-olakes-purina-drop-financial-support-for-steve-king/834381305
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Triphammer on November 01, 2018, 08:43:50 PM
So, two companies pull future donations that In the past totaled $3000 & this is a big deal?
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on November 01, 2018, 10:09:34 PM
So, two companies pull future donations that In the past totaled $3000 & this is a big deal?

In Iowa, yes. More have pulled donations since then.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Pb on November 02, 2018, 09:24:03 AM
What did he do?
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on November 02, 2018, 09:30:17 AM
What did he do?

As a congressman, Jack Squat.

He has made a few poor choices in speaking and on social media.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on November 07, 2018, 12:40:01 AM
He survived, I see an House Ethic's Investigation on him very soon.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 14, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
Can't keep his mouth shut, say stupid things, win stupid prizes

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-republican-leaders-move-to-strip-rep-steve-king-of-his-committee-assignments-over-comments-about-white-nationalism/ar-BBSfGt2?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=SL5JDHP
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 15, 2019, 09:59:17 AM
King's response.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/steve-king-says-white-supremacist-comment-mischaracterized
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2019, 10:05:14 AM
King's response.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/steve-king-says-white-supremacist-comment-mischaracterized

You know, I actually assumed that he was using poorly chosen descriptors to talk about Western civilization (and possibly a commentary on "everything is the old white man's fault) when I first read his comments. However, it really was a stupid way to say it, especially in this day and age when people can't see beyond words. "Yay white supremacists" is something a competent politician should know to avoid.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 15, 2019, 10:30:37 AM
The Republicans couldn’t wait till he slipped up and gave them an excuse to kick him to the curb.

The Republican Congressional leadership loves to sit idly by while the country is used and abused by sickos, they facilitate and enjoy the show. They actually chose defeat this midterm over MAGA. They’re submissives not leaders.

For all his faults he seems to be a defender of western civ.

That will not do in our brave new world.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: DittoHead on January 15, 2019, 12:33:14 PM
The Republicans couldn’t wait till he slipped up and gave them an excuse to kick him to the curb.
They could have done so the previous time, or the time before that. This isn't his first 'mistake' and I'm not sure he deserves the benefit of the doubt anymore. Last time this happened he just tried to lie about it and that didn't go well:
Quote from: https://www.weeklystandard.com/stephen-f-hayes/a-note-on-steve-king
So, King claimed our reporter lied. He didn’t. He claimed we didn’t have a recording. We do. He insisted we refused to release the audio. Untrue. It’s worth remembering these things as you evaluate the credibility of the claim from King
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 15, 2019, 12:38:08 PM
They could have done so the previous time, or the time before that. This isn't his first 'mistake' and I'm not sure he deserves the benefit of the doubt anymore. Last time this happened he just tried to lie about it and that didn't go well:

Like I said, for all his faults.

He is on the right side of the issue and the Republicans are on the wrong side.

We have no wall and porous borders due to the Republicans.

They want open borders just like the Democrats and every other globalist out there.

Republicans always shoot to the right.

They’re submissives not leaders.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 15, 2019, 01:08:41 PM
He also really hasn't done crap as a congressman other than be a vote. A good chunk of his district voter are members of various Dutch reformed churches, they will never vote for any Democrat. This will change after the 2020 census when Iowa probably losses another Representative.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 15, 2019, 01:11:18 PM
He also really hasn't done crap as a congressman other than be a vote. A good chunk of his district voter are members of various Dutch reformed churches, they will never vote for any Democrat. This will change after the 2020 census when Iowa probably losses another Representative.

Have his votes been representative of his district?

Do you mean he hasn’t brought home enough pork?
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 15, 2019, 01:33:37 PM
Have his votes been representative of his district?

Do you mean he hasn’t brought home enough pork?

He votes on party lines, the district does have more registered GOP than Dem, but there is a large percentage of non party registered voters.

He doesn't introduce (or barely has) any legislation that fits what he talks about.

Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 15, 2019, 01:48:12 PM
I also don't get why he is anti immigrant, his district has a lot of industries that rely on cheap labor at the packing plants and other ag related industries.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: cordex on January 15, 2019, 07:20:34 PM
I also don't get why he is anti immigrant, his district has a lot of industries that rely on cheap labor at the packing plants and other ag related industries.
That is an interesting take.  I know very little about this guy - is he anti-immigrant or anti-illegal immigrant?  Whether he is consistently misquoted or is a jerk, would it be better in your eyes for him to prioritize corporate special interests over that of his constituency as a whole?
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: grampster on January 15, 2019, 07:54:32 PM
Republicans love to eat their members who get castigated by, well, anyone.  Democrats celebrate and embrace their felons and mal, mis and nonfeasors.  Ds are the party of diversity, you know.  That means they embrace everyone, even those in prison or should be in prison.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 15, 2019, 07:59:57 PM
That is an interesting take.  I know very little about this guy - is he anti-immigrant or anti-illegal immigrant?  Whether he is consistently misquoted or is a jerk, would it be better in your eyes for him to prioritize corporate special interests over that of his constituency as a whole?

Actually it is hard to tell if he is anti immigrant or anti illegal immigrant. He does a horrible job of explaining himself at times. He is a mix of being a jerk and misquoted. He has always claimed to be pro small business, but he does favor large business at times.

Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 16, 2019, 10:28:13 AM
Actually it is hard to tell if he is anti immigrant or anti illegal immigrant. He does a horrible job of explaining himself at times. He is a mix of being a jerk and misquoted. He has always claimed to be pro small business, but he does favor large business at times.



Well you got your wish, he was the focus of an official 2 minutes of hate and is now persona non grata.

Let that be a lesson to any other fools who wish stand up for western civilization and heritage America.



Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 16, 2019, 10:48:11 AM
Well you got your wish, he was the focus of an official 2 minutes of hate and is now persona non grata.

Let that be a lesson to any other fools who wish stand up for western civilization and heritage America.



If he's a martyr for Western Civ, he's hardly the first one, or the most effective warrior for the cause, or among the more sympathetic of the group.

Personally, despite a life-long abhorrence of racism, I'm finding it hard to take white racism very seriously anymore, at least when it comes from the right. It's only on the political left that you still have people wanting to disarm minorities, or deny them a decent education, or the like. The racism of a white Republican would amount to, what exactly? Even a whiff of it makes you into a - well, a Steve King.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 16, 2019, 11:26:10 AM

If he's a martyr for Western Civ, he's hardly the first one, or the most effective warrior for the cause, or among the more sympathetic of the group.

Personally, despite a life-long abhorrence of racism, I'm finding it hard to take white racism very seriously anymore, at least when it comes from the right. It's only on the political left that you still have people wanting to disarm minorities, or deny them a decent education, or the like. The racism of a white Republican would amount to, what exactly? Even a whiff of it makes you into a - well, a Steve King.

White racism is refusing to quietly hand over all power to minorities and pointing out that our current immigration policies are designed to replace the “white” majority with a foreign demographic.

Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 17, 2019, 06:18:49 PM
White racism is refusing to quietly hand over all power to minorities and pointing out that our current immigration policies are designed to replace the “white” majority with a foreign demographic.



American and the world is changing, it has constantly since man crawled out of the primordial ooze.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 17, 2019, 06:26:43 PM
American and the world is changing, it has constantly since man crawled out of the primordial ooze.

That's not in the stormfront talking points though!
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 17, 2019, 06:34:07 PM
That's not in the stormfront talking points though!

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Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: makattak on January 17, 2019, 08:12:12 PM
American and the world is changing, it has constantly since man crawled out of the primordial ooze.

Rome went through some major demographic changes too.

As a result, the entire Western world took 6-8 centuries to even approach a similar standard of living.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 17, 2019, 08:18:37 PM
Rome went through some major demographic changes too.

As a result, the entire Western world took 6-8 centuries to even approach a similar standard of living.

I think it was longer than that, have to be after the serfs were freed. Life was pretty shitty for peasants and conscripts.

If you think about it globalism raised the standard of living for everyone in the western world.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: 230RN on January 17, 2019, 10:55:55 PM
White racism is refusing to quietly hand over all power to minorities and pointing out that our current immigration policies are designed to replace the “white” majority with a foreign demographic.



Well put.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2019, 12:06:16 AM
When the facts aren’t on a leftists side they always smear their opponents, like calling them or insinuating that they’re racist.

The immigration laws were changed in 1965, favoring non Europeans and the countries demographics changed from 85%+ European descent to where we are now, someplace in the mid 60’s percent and falling. It’s our governments official policy.

Third worlders from the Americas can pretty much flaunt breaking our immigration laws once they get into the country because our government lets them. It’s our governments policy.

Pointing out that this may not be good policy triggers leftists and they immediately shut down actual discussion with insults or attempts at shaming. ZFG here btw.

None of what I said is really in dispute and as you can see the move to “things change” instead of discussion of the actual policy happened before I even responded. Change is conflated with good without explaining why. Leftists like the idea of displacing European descent Americans. It’s for the economy you see, or some such nonsense. Change! Progress! Orange man bad!

The USA has shut down immigration in the past in order to digest and assimilate its immigrants. We should shut/slow her down again and see if we can hold this thing together. There isn’t one group of recent immigrants that doesn’t vote 2 to1 for the Democrats, including most European immigrants. We know how the illegals are voting.

What’s with the death wish? The Democrats are practically on the verge of going full Soviet and you are slavishly advocating importing more voters for them. Your ideology is self destructive. Worse than that, it’s destroying what’s left of the nations common culture.





Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 18, 2019, 12:17:51 AM
American and the world is changing, it has constantly since man crawled out of the primordial ooze.

Well, that's what Ron was complaining about, yes.

We understand that some changes are bad, right?

We also understand that changes in racial demographics can signal cultural changes, right? Possibly bad ones?
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 18, 2019, 08:53:07 AM
Well, that's what Ron was complaining about, yes.

We understand that some changes are bad, right?

We also understand that changes in racial demographics can signal cultural changes, right? Possibly bad ones?

Define bad? I happen to like the work ethics and family structure of our Latin brothers. I like the food that the eastern cultures bring in. Eastern cultures bust ass in the work places too.

Whitey better start breeding like rabbits if they want to keep the whiteness culture.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2019, 09:41:43 AM
Define bad? I happen to like the work ethics and family structure of our Latin brothers. I like the food that the eastern cultures bring in. Eastern cultures bust ass in the work places too.

Whitey better start breeding like rabbits if they want to keep the whiteness culture.

Without the relatively homogeneous Europeans American in the majority you will get tribalism, divisions and probably at some point open violence. It will probably be violence between groups that aren’t European in heritage.

The shitshow developing on the left with all the different “identities” squabbling amongst themselves only have two things holding them together. Disdain for heritage America and the grasping for group power.

Once heritage Americans are dispossessed there will be no unity on the left at all. Just political tribal warfare as they fight each other over the carcass.

BTW, the USA does a great job of destroying the strong family bonds of all its immigrants. Sometimes it takes a a generation or two but eventually the individualism and atomization of our current system destroys their cultural norms also.

Hopefully I’m wrong about this, I’m no prophet. I just find it unrealistic to expect that once these groups gain power that they will govern according to principles foreign to their traditions, cultures and religions. Hell, our constitution and system of law is barely holding on as it is and our high trust low time preference culture is pretty wrecked also. Adding more diversity just accelerates the undoing.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 18, 2019, 10:00:06 AM
Define bad? I happen to like the work ethics and family structure of our Latin brothers. I like the food that the eastern cultures bring in. Eastern cultures bust ass in the work places too.

Whitey better start breeding like rabbits if they want to keep the whiteness culture.

That seems.to be working so well in Latin American countries.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Pb on January 18, 2019, 10:20:59 AM
Define bad? I happen to like the work ethics and family structure of our Latin brothers. 

53% percent of Hispanic children in the USA are bastards.  I think that is a bad family structure.  You may disagree though.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 18, 2019, 10:24:51 AM
53% percent of Hispanic children in the USA are bastards.  I think that is a bad family structure.  You may disagree though.

How many are from rape or exploitation? What is the % of white children? Black children? Asian? African? Middle Eastern? Indian?
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: MechAg94 on January 18, 2019, 10:27:10 AM
Define bad? I happen to like the work ethics and family structure of our Latin brothers. I like the food that the eastern cultures bring in. Eastern cultures bust ass in the work places too.

Whitey better start breeding like rabbits if they want to keep the whiteness culture.
Personally, I don't think it is better or even exceptional.  Yes, some are very hard workers and very good people.  But the illegal population we are letting in has a high percentage of criminals and others that we don't want.  So a lot of the people we are allowing to come in illegally don't have a good work ethic and don't have a good family structure.  

Overall work ethic and family structure in the US used to be better than now (and it is still good).  The Govt decided to enact programs to undermine our work ethic and undermine our family structure.  New immigrants won't suddenly resist that govt influence any better as time goes on.  
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: MechAg94 on January 18, 2019, 10:30:06 AM
How many are from rape or exploitation? What is the % of white children? Black children? Asian? African? Middle Eastern? Indian?
How many are from rape or exploitation in their home countries?  Where is your proof that they have good work ethic and family structure and compared to what?  And are you differentiating between legal immigrants and illegal aliens which makes a big difference?
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 18, 2019, 11:09:20 AM
How many are from rape or exploitation in their home countries?  Where is your proof that they have good work ethic and family structure and compared to what?  And are you differentiating between legal immigrants and illegal aliens which makes a big difference?

I work in Ag, I live in rural Iowa, I see it everyday with legal and presumed illegal immigrants. When a temp contractor shows up with a crew, it is very safe to assume some on that crew are not legal documented workers.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: MechAg94 on January 18, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
I work in chemical plants down on the Gulf Coast.  I assume groups like scaffold builders and insulators have them also.  I guess it might be harder to get ID badges as an illegal in some of these plants.  Hispanics are a large percentage of the work force anyway.  IMO, some are good, some aren't..... just like everyone else.  I don't count them as necessarily good or bad.  I have heard the sentiment that they are better somehow.  I imagine being from a place where you work or don't eat creates a different view of work.  I don't think the generations born here always keep the same view.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 18, 2019, 11:48:51 AM
  I don't think the generations born here always keep the same view.

I think that applies to anyone living in the US, regardless of culture/ethnicity. We have a much higher number of lazy white folks in my town living off Uncle Sugar than folks of non European backgrounds.

Plus perhaps the Latin folks should get this country/continent, they are a lot higher % of indigenous American blood than any European ancestry Americans.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: makattak on January 18, 2019, 12:42:16 PM
I think that applies to anyone living in the US, regardless of culture/ethnicity. We have a much higher number of lazy white folks in my town living off Uncle Sugar than folks of non European backgrounds.

Plus perhaps the Latin folks should get this country/continent, they are a lot higher % of indigenous American blood than any European ancestry Americans.

Of course you do. What's the percentage, though?


That's kind of important when importing a replacement population.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 18, 2019, 02:10:31 PM
Of course you do. What's the percentage, though?


That's kind of important when importing a replacement population.

My current town is 87% white, 40% of the public school students are on free/reduced lunches, so I'm going to say that 38.7% of the working age white folks are living off entitlements from Uncle Sugar.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: MechAg94 on January 18, 2019, 03:10:08 PM
My current town is 87% white, 40% of the public school students are on free/reduced lunches, so I'm going to say that 38.7% of the working age white folks are living off entitlements from Uncle Sugar.
In the past, I have heard that minority populations have a higher percentage on govt handouts, but in raw numbers white folks are still higher simply by population. 

However, Latin/Hispanic population is growing so it is only a matter of time before they have high numbers.  I would also be curious how many illegals are getting welfare and food stamps.  Quite a few I bet.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 18, 2019, 04:04:58 PM
If I recall correctly, the idea of the conservative, Catholic, Hispanic family has given way to illegitimacy rates in between the shamefully high rates of non-Hispanic whites, and the yet more shameful rates of blacks.

But that's not what I was talking about.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2019, 05:28:38 PM
Whether they are nice people who are proto Americans just waiting to flower in our magic dirt is immaterial.

Letting in one to two hundred thousand illegals a year and granting amnesty to hundred of thousands/millions of law breakers already here is being disloyal to the country and rule of law.

Trump is like the Terminator. Hard to take down and keeps on pursuing his target.

Build the wall.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Scout26 on January 19, 2019, 11:02:04 AM
I think that applies to anyone living in the US, regardless of culture/ethnicity. We have a much higher number of lazy white folks in my town living off Uncle Sugar than folks of non European backgrounds.



So the real answer is to turn off the .gov handout porchlight.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on January 19, 2019, 11:42:38 AM
So the real answer is to turn off the .gov handout porchlight.

I concur
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2019, 11:45:59 AM
I concur

Why? Oh why? Why do you want to deprive us of new and exciting cuisine?!
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: DittoHead on January 21, 2019, 09:24:16 PM
An interesting piece on the "immigration panic" from National Review (your best source for well written globalist/elitist/neocon propaganda  ;))

Quote from: https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/immigration-why-we-panic-birth-rates-assimilation/
What made immigration so emotional, especially among Republicans?
...
First, the facts: America today really does have an unusually large immigrant population, which has grown steadily for decades. Second, the emotional climate: We’ve lost the cultural self-confidence to keep accepting newcomers and let them make their own way and find their own place in our culture. That dynamic is both reflected in, and fed by, plummeting birthrates for native-born Americans. Third, the nature of the American political divide drives politically active people into ever-greater obsession with demographics, and that drives the tendency of each side to steps that further radicalize the other.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 22, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote
Second, the emotional climate: We’ve lost the cultural self-confidence to keep accepting newcomers and let them make their own way and find their own place in our culture.

Instead, we insist that their superior culture replace our own.

Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on June 02, 2020, 11:29:53 PM
Took almost 2 years, but King lost the GOP primary today.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: charby on June 03, 2020, 07:46:04 AM
As seen on Facebook: "Steve King continues to honor the Confederacy by getting just destroyed on his home turf."
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: French G. on June 03, 2020, 09:00:53 AM
I saw the headline and got excited because I am bad with names and thought it was that idiot Peter King from NY for a minute.
Title: Re: Looks Like Steve King, R-IA4 is gone.
Post by: Ron on June 03, 2020, 09:16:13 AM
I saw the headline and got excited because I am bad with names and thought it was that idiot Peter King from NY for a minute.
LOL, same with me  :laugh: