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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: makattak on November 07, 2018, 08:55:11 AM
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Yes, it's disappointing the Republicans lost the House, but I expected that. Historical trends (and human nature) favored the Dems winning enough to take back the house. (And, thus far, the results have been almost exactly normal in the trend.)
Mine is John James failing to win in Michigan. He seems a very good leader and I had hopes he could help convince more black voters to abandon the Democrats. He had been surging, but in the end fell far short. Seems the polls weren't all that far off this year.
What's yours?
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The #$% Republicans had an opportunity to repeal Obamacare, crack down on immigration, build the wall, give us CC reciprocity, deregulate suppressors, improve the budget, defund Planned Parenthood... and they absolutely spit on their voters and accomplished none of that. That my big disappointment. :mad:
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Scott Walker losing in Wisconsin, although I would agree there is no reason James should have lost, hopefully one more time we see him.
My biggest disappointment in the land of sarcasm is seeing how much money was wasted on Beto, Abrams, and Gillum. Could helped a lot of the poor and downtrodden with all those bills and starpower.
Semi disappointing, someone I kinda know got elected in NJ, Mikie Sherril. Used to serve with her, okay pilot, shame to see it is boilerplate Dem bs she brings.
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While I don't necessarily disagree with the concept, so maybe not a big disappointment, restoring voting rights for felons in Florida could have some significant impacts down the line. I'll be interested to see how that plays out.
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Here in Ohio, at the state level, Republicans won all of the top positions (governor, AG, treasurer, auditor, sec state). However, there were two seats up for election on the state Supreme Court. Ohio judicial races are officially non-partisan. However, the parties each "support" a candidate, who is chosen in a partisan primary. (Yeah, I know. It makes no sense.) Both seats went to the Democrat candidate, one in a 60/40 win, the other in a 53/47 win. Can't figure that one out.
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While I don't necessarily disagree with the concept, so maybe not a big disappointment, restoring voting rights for felons in Florida could have some significant impacts down the line. I'll be interested to see how that plays out.
Well, I'm guessing FL will go Blue in the next Presidential election then. :mad:
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My biggest disappointment in the land of sarcasm is seeing how much money was wasted on Beto, Abrams, and Gillum. Could helped a lot of the poor and downtrodden with all those bills and starpower.
Put them to work building the wall.
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That Pelosi was reelected.
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That Pelosi was reelected.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS!
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Put them to work building the wall.
What "wall"? There will never be a wall. Neither party wants it.
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I'll have more disappointments to list as I read more today. :laugh:
For now:
It was a bit sad to see how many states I thought were staunchly conservative go blue in congressional races, or else barely squeak through a red win. Nevada especially seems to be turning blue. I almost blame that more on the Reno area than the Las Vegas area, what with all the San Francisco region Californians moving to the Reno and surrounding areas.
The blue West Coast continues to irk me in how much influence it has for the rest of those states. Red/blue numbers pretty much flip at some longitudinal dividing line in each of those states. It, again, would be really interesting to have "in-state" electoral voting in those states.
I would list a slew of disappointments regarding California elections if i wasn't leaving the state. Gavin Newsom is going to turn this state into Venezuela. On the "not disappointed" front, I likely won't have to worry about commies in Idaho in my lifetime, where red percentages were nearly double blue percentages.
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That Washington State passed I-1639 with a 60% margin.
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That Washington State passed I-1639 with a 60% margin.
*sigh* I expect worse initiatives to be on the ballot in the coming years. This is like blood in the water for the blues that hate gun culture.
But yeah, definitely my biggest disappointment too.
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That we didn't see a repeat of 2016's polling failure.
I could really have gotten behind another blue wave of tears.
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Missouri decided to increase its minimum wage to 12-something per hour. I wonder how that compares to $15 on the coasts.
For some reason, though we prefer Republican politicians and deep red, NRA-approved gun laws, we want stupid-high minimum wages, and we hate Right-to-work.
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Missouri decided to increase its minimum wage to 12-something per hour. I wonder how that compares to $15 on the coasts.
For some reason, though we prefer Republican politicians and deep red, NRA-approved gun laws, we want stupid-high minimum wages, and we hate Right-to-work.
Very populist positions, not purely ideological.
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That we didn't see a repeat of 2016's polling failure.
I could really have gotten behind another blue wave of tears.
Ohio had some pretty significant polling failures. Dems I know were discussing polls from a couple of weeks before the election showing all of the state major Dem candidates up by at least 5 points, and State Issue 1 polling up by 7 points. All of those candidates lost, and Issue 1 went down 65/35.
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That Washington State passed I-1639 with a 60% margin.
This. I expected WA voters to be stupid, but the fact it wasn’t even close was disappointing.
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Illinois. From really bad to really worse bad.
The corrupt Chicago machine now has the governor plus a supermajority.
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This. I expected WA voters to be stupid, but the fact it wasn’t even close was disappointing.
I see it as the domination of the Puget Sound counties, where most of the population lives, over the rest of the state. As Seattle/King County go, so does the majority of state-wide political issues.
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Illinois. From really bad to really worse bad.
The corrupt Chicago machine now has the governor plus a supermajority.
Plus losing Roskam (IL-6) and Hultgren (IL-14) to two giant con-artists. Casten and Underwood.
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That Pelosi was reelected.
That is a gift. Every blue rep is going to have her for a running mate in two years.
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How in the heck did Scott Walker lose to Tony Evers? He survived a recall and reelection and WI went to Trump but he loses to that guy ???
I saw a few negative Foxconn articles lately but that didn't seem to be a big factor.
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How in the heck did Scott Walker lose to Tony Evers? He survived a recall and reelection and WI went to Trump but he loses to that guy ???
I saw a few negative Foxconn articles lately but that didn't seem to be a big factor.
He was a victim of his own success. He did a lot of good things early in his career, but didn't do anything noteworthy in the last few years other than Foxconn (I think this deal has been way underrated for its future impact on the state by both the left and the right).
Voters got bored with him.
Evers- he's a cardboard cutout of a lifelong bureaucrat. I'll give him a chance, but I don't think he's destined for any kind of greatness.
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David Young losing IA-3
Steve King not losing IA-4
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Missouri decided to increase its minimum wage to 12-something per hour.
Keep going. Texas can do the manufacturing you'll lose.
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David Young losing IA-3
Steve King not losing IA-4
Which one did you post about loosing his financial backers?
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Keep going. Texas can do the manufacturing you'll lose.
I won't tell you what else Texas can do. :P
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The #$% Republicans had an opportunity to repeal Obamacare, crack down on immigration, build the wall, give us CC reciprocity, deregulate suppressors, improve the budget, defund Planned Parenthood... and they absolutely spit on their voters and accomplished none of that. That my big disappointment. :mad:
^^^^ This. The GOP didn't get nearly as much done in the past 2 years as they could/should have.
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Which one did you post about loosing his financial backers?
King
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^^^^ This. The GOP didn't get nearly as much done in the past 2 years as they could/should have.
I am not sure about McConnell, but Paul Ryan seemed to be dead set against doing anything Trump wanted except the tax bill. Certainly Senators like John McCain shared that view. The Republican lead in the Senate wasn't enough to get around the guys like Flake and McCain. A potential positive is a bunch of long time Republican Congressmen like Paul Ryan or John McCain retired prior to this election. It is possible the remaining Republicans might be more effective.
I realize that is asking a lot and I may just be too optimistic, but I am happier that way.
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I am not sure about McConnell, but Paul Ryan seemed to be dead set against doing anything Trump wanted except the tax bill. Certainly Senators like John McCain shared that view. The Republican lead in the Senate wasn't enough to get around the guys like Flake and McCain. A potential positive is a bunch of long time Republican Congressmen like Paul Ryan or John McCain retired prior to this election. It is possible the remaining Republicans might be more effective.
I realize that is asking a lot and I may just be too optimistic, but I am happier that way.
I'm glad Ryan is out, but his replacement looks like he just crawled out of the Paul Ryan cloning tank.
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Anytime you can trade a Jeff Flake in for McSally, it's a good day. Lot of never trump Republicans gone.
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The Republican lead in the Senate wasn't enough to get around the guys like Flake and McCain. A potential positive is a bunch of long time Republican Congressmen like Paul Ryan or John McCain retired prior to this election. It is possible the remaining Republicans might be more effective.
I realize that is asking a lot and I may just be too optimistic, but I am happier that way.
But the Senate can't pass any laws that the House won't pass, and a Democrat-controlled House won't pass anything Trump (or America) wants. Thank the deity of your choice that the Republicans now have better control of the Senate than they have had for the past two years, because at least they can block the idiocy that's almost certain to start spewing out of the House.
Unless ... it's also possible that a Democrat-controlled House will be so intent on trying to impeach Trump that they won't have tome for much else.
And the Rs control the chamber that approves federal judicial appointments. That's "YUUUUGE."
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I'm getting the sense that Trump doesn't care about losing the House.
Given a small enough majority he might feel that on any given issue he can get enough Dems to cross-over to get him whatever he wants.
And for us that should be fun to watch as the Dem leadership constantly fails to stop El Orange Jefe.
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The #$% Republicans had an opportunity to repeal Obamacare, crack down on immigration, build the wall, give us CC reciprocity, deregulate suppressors, improve the budget, defund Planned Parenthood... and they absolutely spit on their voters and accomplished none of that. That my big disappointment. :mad:
Gee, I wonder why they lost so many seats . . . ?
Prediction: for the next 2 years, they'll use "We don't have both houses of Congress" as an excuse to accomplish nothing worthwhile. :mad:
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And the Rs control the chamber that approves federal judicial appointments. That's "YUUUUGE."
Agree. Here's hoping trump gets to appoint 2 new Supreme Court justices! (RBG is looking a little pale).
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And the Rs control the chamber that approves federal judicial appointments. That's "YUUUUGE."
Agree. Here's hoping trump gets to appoint 2 new Supreme Court justices! (RBG is looking a little pale).
As Trump failed to deliver a Red Wave election, leaving us short on lib tears and meltdowns, he should make it up to us by floating a plan to appoint additional SCOTUS justices. It's the right thing to do.
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My disappointment involves the fact that Americans in general haven't learned much from the past year's stupidity. I guess because so many of them were involved in that stupidity that it looked normal and acceptable.
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In Michigan we went from double digit unemployment and basically total wreckage to being a very prosperous state over the last 8 years. During that time the Rs were responsible for making some changes in government neb nosing that allowed most of that success...but at the same time did some really, really stupid things.
As a result, the good was forgotten and the stupid caused us to now have a horrible, leftist D governor who today, the day after her election, called for 2 billion dollars in increased taxes to piss away, a D sect of state that couldn't find her way out of a box, and an attorney general that if she even was to take the oath of office, which I doubt, could be charged with perjury. She is a hater of the constitution, of law enforcement and just about every other thing that keeps anarchy from running rampant.
I used to think that it might be a good thing to have some intelligent, reasonable women in public office. I'm beginning to wonder about that because a good deal of them lately are barking moonbats. Where are Maggie Thatcher clones when you need them?
The state of our electorate perhaps can be reduced to what I heard a friend say today. He said he talked to his neighbor about voting and she said she didn't really understand any of the ballot questions or who to vote for, so she just went down the list and voted for women. sigh
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I've seen that before, but I'm not telling where. =)
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Gee, I wonder why they lost so many seats . . . ?
Prediction: for the next 2 years, they'll use "We don't have both houses of Congress" as an excuse to accomplish nothing worthwhile. :mad:
They didn't lose so many seats. Tied for 9th most seats lost in a midterm. Some of those coming from when the house had less seats. How many of the left wing media darlings won?
I would blame Ryan, but I cannot remember a house that got things done in my life. Even Gingrich screwed it away. And Pelosi was awful, so here is hoping she is just as bad at herding cats this time. Many cats that will be trying to get reelected in centrist districts.
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They didn't lose so many seats. Tied for 9th most seats lost in a midterm. Some of those coming from when the house had less seats. How many of the left wing media darlings won?
I would blame Ryan, but I cannot remember a house that got things done in my life. Even Gingrich screwed it away. And Pelosi was awful, so here is hoping she is just as bad at herding cats this time. Many cats that will be trying to get reelected in centrist districts.
I thought Gingrich was fairly successful as Speaker. They actually balanced the budget (or got real close). Got Welfare reform pushed through with Clinton as Pres. IMO, it was Gingrich's successors who "screwed it away" by abandoning any semblance of budget control.
Regardless, I am glad Ryan is gone. We will see what the future holds.
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They didn't lose so many seats. Tied for 9th most seats lost in a midterm. Some of those coming from when the house had less seats. How many of the left wing media darlings won?
I would blame Ryan, but I cannot remember a house that got things done in my life. Even Gingrich screwed it away. And Pelosi was awful, so here is hoping she is just as bad at herding cats this time. Many cats that will be trying to get reelected in centrist districts.
She's already making gaffes every time they stick a microphone in her face. If she's Speaker, it's going to be a blue wave of Pelosi gaffes, and maybe even some carrying-Hillary-into-the-van moments for the old girl.
So at least there's that.
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. . . They actually balanced the budget (or got real close) . . .
If you look at the treasury direct website, you'll see that the total national debt increased every single year for which Clinton and Gingrich claimed a balanced budget. They played semantic games with "public debt" and "intragovernmental debt" to make their balance claims.
But as far as I'm concerned, you haven't balanced anything if you end each year deeper in the hole than when you started.
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I base my Gingrich comments on the fact it was a huge red wave and then *poof* two years later, jack diddly.
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Jack Diddly.
Senator, I served with Jack Diddly. I knew Jack Diddly. Jack Diddly was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Diddly.