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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Scout26 on December 20, 2018, 05:38:08 AM
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Triple amputee Air Force vet starts Go-Fund-Me to raise $5billion for Border Wall. If everyone who voted for Trump contributes $80 there's $5billion for the wall. Suck it Chuck and Nancy. How are you going to spin that ??
It still pisses me off that we have $10+billion to give to Central America in Foreign Aid *Hack, spit*, but not $5billion for Border Wall/Security.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/veteran-launches-gofundme-campaign-to-help-fund-border-wall
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It still pisses me off that we have $10+billion to give to Central America in Foreign Aid *Hack, spit*, but not $5billion for Border Wall/Security.
To me, this is proof that the Democrats will go to any lengths, and spend any amount of my money, to avoid doing anything that Trump wants to do. Those $10 billion dollars are invisible -- there won't be any physical wall that Trump and/or the Republicans can point to and say "We built that."
Plus, the payoff siphons those $10 billion out of the American economy, thereby further weakening the system under Trump. It's like a gigantic version of Western Union's "Dinero en Minuto" on steroids.
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The joke writes itself: Mexico is building a wall, and Trump is paying for it, having negotiated a price that is 290 times his opening bid.
¡El arte del trato!
The thing is: It’s a good idea.
I'm not sure it's a good idea but it's not a complete waste.
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I'm in for $80. It's over $4.3 million in less then 3 days.l
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Pointless. The $$$$ will go to kongress, to be distributed by self-same kongress.
Anyone here [tinfoil] think that [tinfoil] kongress will use it for a [tinfoil] wall? [tinfoil]
:rofl:
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Nope, goes to the Treasury, not Congress. Executive branch can direct to CPB for the Wall.
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$4.7 million in 3 days is . . . . impressive.
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I already donate to build the wall. My donations have been coming out of my paychecks for the past 20-some years.
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I already donate to build the wall. My donations have been coming out of my paychecks for the past 20-some years.
Yes, we all do. I consider this to be more symbolic as a FU to Chuck and Nancy and to give Trump some backbone when he seems to be flagging...
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Nope, goes to the Treasury, not Congress. Executive branch can direct to CPB for the Wall.
Well,... NOT from what I heard. ???
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consider this to be more symbolic as a FU
Virtue deplorable signaling?
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I donated a little.
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At 1545 it was over $7.2 million with 118,570 people have donated.
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I donated. I’m not really a big wall guy necessarily, but we need to address border security in a real way. Maybe this will help convince some squishy Republicans or even some Dems. Plus I like the idea of this being shoved in Chuck and Nancy’s faces.
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As predicted: Mexico isn’t paying for the wall.
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At 1545 it was over $7.2 million with 118,570 people have donated.
Wow. It has been exploding. Last night when I went to be it was "only" up to about 3.2 million. It's now up tp $8,027,374 with 131,951 having contributed, which averages out to about an average $60.83 per person.
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Looks like the House just chipped in 5.7 billion.
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Looks like the House just chipped in 5.7 billion.
Not likely to clear the senate in that form.
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0700am 12/21 - $11 million with 183K people donating.
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall
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It's very hard to imagine congress actually working this hard on something:
The House should pass an array of spending plans, with wall money, and give the Senate ample options to concur.
The first vote should be the Freedom Caucus’ amendment for $5 billion in border wall funds. On Thursday morning, Freedom Caucus members begged House speaker Paul Ryan and majority leader Kevin McCarthy for such a vote. This is mind-blowing. Why on earth was this vote not held — a week ago? A month ago?
If the Senate defeats a House bill with $5 billion in wall money, the House should transmit a separate bill with $4.5 billion, and then another $4 billion, etc. At some point, public pressure, fatigue, and homesickness should trigger Senate consent.
The House also should pass a bill co-sponsored by Representative Mo Brooks (R., Ala.) and Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas). The three-page EL CHAPO Act — or Ensuring Lawful Collection of Hidden Assets to Provide Order — would finance the border wall with any money recovered from jailed Mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, and other narco-traffickers. The U.S. government seeks some $14 billion in Guzman’s illicit cash. Republicans should dare House and Senate Democrats to oppose such common-sense and, essentially, no-cost wall funds.
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^^^This. But instead of $5 billion, then $4.5 billion, then $4 billion it should be $5 billion, $4.999 billion, $4.998 billion, etc....
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^^^This. But instead of $5 billion, then $4.5 billion, then $4 billion it should be $5 billion, $4.999 billion, $4.998 billion, etc....
I'd prefer they ratchet it the other way.
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If I were Trump, I'd "back down" and "compromise" for 1/2 the money, 2.5bn for the Border Partrol for more agents and vehicles instead.
Then I'd go and have the Army Engineering Corps build the wall under my authority as CIC.
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The Go Fund Me is up to $16.6 mill with 273k people donating
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And The Atlantic weighs in... ;/ ;/ ;/
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/12/border-wall-crowdfunding/578884/
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So can he even legally donate this money to the government?
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$17million, 288k contributors.
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$17million, 288k contributors.
Enough to make a good start if they use Mexicans
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I'm guessing this means they aren't going to build the wall.
Prosecutors alleged that Bannon and Kolfage along with two others — Andrew Badolato and Timothy Shea — routed payments from the crowdfunding campaign through the nonprofit and another shell company and disguised them with fake invoices to help keep their personal pay secret. All four were arrested Thursday and are expected to make court appearances later in the day; Bannon, a law enforcement official said, was taken into custody while aboard someone else’s 150-foot yacht off the coast of Westbrook, Conn. They are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering.
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Oh, I see walls in their future. And bars. Okay Justice dept, now do Clinton foundation.
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Oh, I see walls in their future. And bars. Okay Justice dept, now do Clinton foundation.
Not just that one. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of charitable foundations that rich people hide their money in. I bet a healthy percentage have something similar going on. I am sure the laws/regulations have plenty of loopholes allowing some of it.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/08/20/postal-service-police-bannon/
You apparently do not want to mess with the Post Office.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/08/20/postal-service-police-bannon/
You apparently do not want to mess with the Post Office.
This is why I prefer to pay for firearms purchased over the Internet using USPS money orders.
That said, how the heck did the postal inspectors and the Coast Guard know that Bannon was on a yacht, and exactly where to find the aforementioned yacht in Long Island Sound? Long Island Sound isn't exactly the Pacific Ocean, but it's not exactly a goldfish pond, either.
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This is why I prefer to pay for firearms purchased over the Internet using USPS money orders.
That said, how the heck did the postal inspectors and the Coast Guard know that Bannon was on a yacht, and exactly where to find the aforementioned yacht in Long Island Sound? Long Island Sound isn't exactly the Pacific Ocean, but it's not exactly a goldfish pond, either.
Depending on the "yacht" it may very well have an AIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system) system on board. If not, even small boats these days have an MMSI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity#:~:text=A%20Maritime%20Mobile%20Service%20Identity,earth%20stations%2C%20and%20group%20calls.) programmed into their VHF Digital Selective Calling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_selective_calling) radios that will transmit location info when queried.
Even a small "yacht" is likely to have Global Maritime Distress Safety System (GMDSS) gear and SATCOMS aboard, almost all of which have their own GPS chips (or feed from the vessels's GPS) and transmit location information.
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Depending on the "yacht" it may very well have an AIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system) system on board. If not, even small boats these days have an MMSI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity#:~:text=A%20Maritime%20Mobile%20Service%20Identity,earth%20stations%2C%20and%20group%20calls.) programmed into their VHF Digital Selective Calling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_selective_calling) radios that will transmit location info when queried.
Even a small "yacht" is likely to have Global Maritime Distress Safety System (GMDSS) gear and SATCOMS aboard, almost all of which have their own GPS chips (or feed from the vessels's GPS) and transmit location information.
Note to self: if I ever get a yacht, be sure there's a hidden "off" switch for the spyware systems.
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Depending on the "yacht" it may very well have an AIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system) system on board. If not, even small boats these days have an MMSI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity#:~:text=A%20Maritime%20Mobile%20Service%20Identity,earth%20stations%2C%20and%20group%20calls.) programmed into their VHF Digital Selective Calling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_selective_calling) radios that will transmit location info when queried.
Even a small "yacht" is likely to have Global Maritime Distress Safety System (GMDSS) gear and SATCOMS aboard, almost all of which have their own GPS chips (or feed from the vessels's GPS) and transmit location information.
Dang.
My ex-wife and I sold our sailboat 35 years ago. I guess we just missed the technology wave -- we navigated with paper charts, paper tide tables, and a [magnetic] marine compass. I also had a sextant, but we never cruised offshore so I didn't get very proficient with it.
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When you forgot to check timestamps on what you reply to. :lol: