Armed Polite Society

Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Andiron on January 17, 2019, 04:51:01 PM

Title: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Andiron on January 17, 2019, 04:51:01 PM
https://imgur.com/fTtiWSp

I lol'd.  And what business does that harpy have over there anyway?
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 17, 2019, 04:57:19 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Lesson to be learned? Don't get too high and mighty with the person in charge of your air transportation.

Brad
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 17, 2019, 05:25:28 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Lesson to be learned? Don't get too high and mighty with the person in charge of your air transportation.

Brad

Two can play at that game.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 17, 2019, 05:43:39 PM
Well played, Good Sir. Well played.  =D

Brad
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: MikeB on January 17, 2019, 06:12:45 PM
Perfect timing too. They were on the bus to leave. And Schiff was on the bus too.  :rofl:

I read, but not sure if true there were some Republicans going on the trip too, but either way hilarious and no one in Congress should be going on a junket, vacation or leaving town while the government is shutdown. The GOP shouldn’t be going on their retreat either that is supposedly this weekend.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: dm1333 on January 17, 2019, 06:37:41 PM
Quote
Trump added that he feels “it would be better” if Pelosi was in Washington negotiating with him “and joining the Strong Border Security movement to end the shutdown.”

“Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial, that would certainly be your prerogative,” Trump noted. “I look forward to seeing you soon and even more forward to watching our open and dangerous Southern Border finally receive the attention, funding and security it so desperately deserves.”

 :lol:

Quote
Sanders, when asked why Trump sent the letter to Pelosi, said, “We want to keep her in Washington. If she leaves she guarantees that the second round of paychecks to workers won’t go out.”

She said Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer “always have an invitation” to the White House if they want to come to negotiate.

I would say that Trump won this round.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 17, 2019, 06:41:55 PM
:lol:

I would say that Trump won this round.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ben on January 17, 2019, 06:45:23 PM
:lol:

I would say that Trump won this round.

Yup. You can't vote to end the shutdown if you're in another country. I wish more dems and MSM would recognize she doesn't really want to end it, and is not even hiding the fact anymore. All I'm seeing from the MSM is attacks on Trump for grounding her and not one "unbiased journalist" asking about her being gone for days, which drags out the shutdown.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: charby on January 17, 2019, 06:46:15 PM
:lol:

I would say that Trump won this round.

Let's see if he can win the game.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: French G. on January 17, 2019, 06:51:06 PM
Let's see if he can win the game.

He well may. I won't postulate any 4-D chess, but this thing seems like he is pulling a tarbaby. All these new leftist darlings installed to Congress and instead of getting the wheels on a 2020 progressive platform, everyone is screaming about Trump. And I would bet there was literally screaming in the pelosi motorcade. I think Trump wants more negative media on him.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ben on January 17, 2019, 06:58:54 PM
I don't know what she was expecting to happen anyway. It wasn't more than a few days ago that she said she was as powerful as the President, then pulled the SOTU thing. If I were Trump I would have given her a smack down as well. And in fairness, if an R speaker did that to Obama, they would deserve some retaliation as well.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ben on January 17, 2019, 07:16:41 PM
 :laugh:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxJU57TXQAMM_YM.jpg)
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: MikeB on January 17, 2019, 07:19:42 PM
So Trump canceled his delegation to Davos too. Good move.

I’m not sure how useful these economic conferences are. I can sort of see both sides, but good optics for him.

Come on GOP, cancel your retreat this weekend.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ben on January 17, 2019, 07:22:11 PM
Come on GOP, cancel your retreat this weekend.

That would be strategically wise, especially after calling out (rightly) the Puerto Rico thing.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 17, 2019, 07:24:28 PM
That would be strategically wise, especially after calling out (rightly) the Puerto Rico thing.

We are talking about The Stupid Party™©
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: MikeB on January 17, 2019, 07:29:37 PM
We are talking about The Stupid Party™©

True. If they were smart they would hold the retreat somewhere in DC if they go through with it or find a way to do it in the actual capital building even better if they can find an area they can exclude the Dems from. Not sure how that works with areas of the building.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: DittoHead on January 17, 2019, 07:32:52 PM
You can't vote to end the shutdown if you're in another country.
Being there to vote hasn't really been the problem though, it's what they're voting on. Each side thinks they're winning (or losing less) and they're not giving up any ground in "negotiations".
Quote from: https://www.axios.com/government-shutdown-house-votes-reopen-sixth-time-fba89666-fcf3-4b2b-87f7-5fe2eccac385.html
January 3: House passes two spending bills to reopen eight federal agencies on the first day of the Democratic majority.
January 9: House passes a financial services spending bill, with 8 Republicans joining the Democratic effort.
January 10: House passes two funding bills to reopen the Departments of Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, Agriculture, and more. 12 Republicans break with Trump to fund HUD and the Department of Transportation.
January 16: The House passes a disaster relief bill that includes an amendment to fund the government through early February
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: dm1333 on January 17, 2019, 08:26:52 PM
I don't know what she was expecting to happen anyway. It wasn't more than a few days ago that she said she was as powerful as the President, then pulled the SOTU thing. If I were Trump I would have given her a smack down as well. And in fairness, if an R speaker did that to Obama, they would deserve some retaliation as well.

And if she lets the SOTU address go on he will hammer the Dems on the wall.  Of course if she doesn't let it go on he can hammer Dems on that too.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2019, 09:40:10 PM
We are talking about The Stupid Party™©
And it was past Republican Congressional leadership that earned that nickname.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 17, 2019, 11:22:44 PM
I haven't yet seen an explanation for why the Speaker of the House needs to travel to Afghanistan at all, let alone less than a month into the new term and in the middle of supposedly trying to end a government shutdown.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2019, 12:15:22 AM
I’m sort of warming up to having a WWF President.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: brimic on January 18, 2019, 12:35:32 AM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: MechAg94 on January 18, 2019, 08:44:11 AM
I haven't yet seen an explanation for why the Speaker of the House needs to travel to Afghanistan at all, let alone less than a month into the new term and in the middle of supposedly trying to end a government shutdown.
I happened to be listening to radio show I usually don't.  He was responding to people who said she was visiting the troops and they won't like being denied the visit.  The guy said he asked for military personnel to send him horror stories of stuff they had to do when a VIP was visiting.  It was amazing some of the nutty stuff he started reading off.  Most of it sounded like busy work, but some just sounded vindictive.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: HankB on January 18, 2019, 12:24:22 PM
When Pelosi became Speaker the first time, wasn't she the one who demanded an upgrade from a corporate jet (Gulfstream?) to a full-sized airliner for her personal use?

Nasty old harridan sure likes to travel in style . . . at taxpayer expense.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: DittoHead on January 18, 2019, 03:41:32 PM
I haven't yet seen an explanation for why the Speaker of the House needs to travel to Afghanistan at all
Well, here's one:
Quote from: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trump-harmed-the-public-by-canceling-pelosis-trip
Congress is a coequal branch of government. Congress must decide whether to finance military excursions, decide what armaments to authorize, and weigh in on policies governing troop use, benefits, and conditions. A trip to a war zone is far from a junket. It requires a lot of preparation; it almost always provides important information to members of Congress and key staff that they just could not fully appreciate from 7,000 miles away; and it involves long work hours and some risk. Just about anyone who has worked on Capitol Hill has seen firsthand from returning members and staff just how eye-opening an experience those trips can be and just how much more focused the subsequent legislative and oversight efforts are.

For those reasons and others, these CODEL trips, short for “congressional delegation,” are usually carried out by military transport, with military organization. The president, as commander in chief, should want leading congressmen to take such trips. And the perfect time to take them is in January of a new term, when little other legislative business is being conducted and when a new legislative year brings the need to reassess policies and missions.

A trip like this is especially important for the speaker of the house, third in line to the presidency. Set aside the particular personality or ideology of Pelosi, and consider the office she holds. Of course she should take occasional CODELs to war zones and to meet with foreign leaders.

I certainly think it can wait until after the shutdown, but a congressional delegation going over there isn't unusual.
Paul Ryan went a few months ago (https://www.channel3000.com/news/paul-ryan-concludes-afghanistan-visit/806309531) for the same kind of thing.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: MechAg94 on January 18, 2019, 04:43:14 PM
And they can go once they approve funding for border security.    =D
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 18, 2019, 05:26:26 PM
(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/F7A262A0-7E03-4F45-8B06-EEE149385A2E.jpeg)
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: grampster on January 18, 2019, 06:31:14 PM
Trump should have let them go, and then cancelled the return trip. :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: cordex on January 18, 2019, 08:55:43 PM
Well, here's one:
I certainly think it can wait until after the shutdown, but a congressional delegation going over there isn't unusual.
Paul Ryan went a few months ago (https://www.channel3000.com/news/paul-ryan-concludes-afghanistan-visit/806309531) for the same kind of thing.
Oh yes. I’m sure that international political travel is totally not an excuse for a VIP vacation at the taxpayer’s expense. Work, work, work, that is all they do.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Andiron on January 18, 2019, 09:29:33 PM
I happened to be listening to radio show I usually don't.  He was responding to people who said she was visiting the troops and they won't like being denied the visit.  The guy said he asked for military personnel to send him horror stories of stuff they had to do when a VIP was visiting.  It was amazing some of the nutty stuff he started reading off.  Most of it sounded like busy work, but some just sounded vindictive.

VIPs just mean a bunch of E3 and below get tasked with doing stupid *expletive deleted*it and endless formations, and being props for photo ops.  I *expletive deleted*ing hated those.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 19, 2019, 09:21:54 AM
Trump should have let them go, and then cancelled the return trip. :rofl: :rofl:

Even better, he should have taken them on AF1 with him for another visit.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Scout26 on January 19, 2019, 10:22:29 AM
I happened to be listening to radio show I usually don't.  He was responding to people who said she was visiting the troops and they won't like being denied the visit.  The guy said he asked for military personnel to send him horror stories of stuff they had to do when a VIP was visiting.  It was amazing some of the nutty stuff he started reading off.  Most of it sounded like busy work, but some just sounded vindictive.

It's called a "Dog and Pony Show" for a reason.  And yes, there is a lot of stupid that goes into getting ready for a Congressional Visit.

We had Pat Schroeder (Idiot- CO) come visit Baumholder back in the 1980's.  I got to see, first hand, just how incredibly stupid our "betters" actually are. 
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: HankB on January 19, 2019, 11:36:54 AM
Pelosi is now saying she cancelled her trip "on commercial" because Trump "broke security."  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: dm1333 on January 19, 2019, 02:01:30 PM
Pelosi is now saying she cancelled her trip "on commercial" because Trump "broke security."  :facepalm:

Read the same thing, Have you seen any proof?  I haven't and I've been looking.  And of course she is still not working to end the shutdown.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: RocketMan on January 19, 2019, 02:05:45 PM
Trump should have let them go, and then cancelled the return trip. :rofl: :rofl:

Trump could have claimed the country is experiencing a raging epidemic of liberalism, and carriers of the disease cannot be let into the country.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: HankB on January 20, 2019, 12:24:03 PM
Read the same thing, Have you seen any proof?  I haven't and I've been looking.  And of course she is still not working to end the shutdown.
BELIEVE THE WOMAN! WOMEN NEVER LIE! LOOKING FOR ACTUAL PROOF IS RACIST, SEXIST, HOMOPHOBIC, UNAMERICAN, AND ETHNICALLY AND GENDERALLY** INSENSITIVE!!



** - Genderally? Is that an actual word?
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: dm1333 on January 20, 2019, 07:50:03 PM
BELIEVE THE WOMAN! WOMEN NEVER LIE! LOOKING FOR ACTUAL PROOF IS RACIST, SEXIST, HOMOPHOBIC, UNAMERICAN, AND ETHNICALLY AND GENDERALLY** INSENSITIVE!!



** - Genderally? Is that an actual word?

I know, I'm one of those crazy "proofers"!
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: 230RN on January 23, 2019, 02:38:36 PM
State of the Union address ON for January 29th.

President Trump says he will honor Speaker Pelosi's original invitation.

I don't think politics has been this amusing since H. L. Mencken.... or maybe  Will Rogers.

Terry

Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: 230RN on January 23, 2019, 02:52:52 PM
I know, I'm one of those crazy "proofers"!

I'd OK the word, since the author has created it.

I refer you to the Humpty-Dumpty Official Style Manual.  To wit: "'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'"
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2019, 03:10:30 PM
And Pelosi officially disinvites him:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/01/23/its-war-nancy-pelosi-just-formally-disinvited-donald-trump-from-delivering-sotu-address/

I think he would have been better off immediately saying he was going to speak at another venue versus pulling this "original invitation" stuff. Gave her too wide of an opening and now her base can talk about how "powerful" she is. Had he ignored her and just done a venue end-run, she would have looked powerless.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ron on January 23, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Hopefully this will help end the stupid spectacle of lies going forward.

A man can hope  :laugh:
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flegionmiasmus.weebly.com%2Fuploads%2F3%2F8%2F3%2F0%2F38305193%2F4425585_orig.jpg&hash=6aa099922772a75a65bd35461359f0836ad8d107)
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: DittoHead on January 23, 2019, 03:38:02 PM
Had he ignored her and just done a venue end-run, she would have looked powerless.

He's been trying (and failing it seems) to make her do something in the one area she really does have significant power, on the floor of the house. He can show up there but he can't make her call the house into session, broadcast anything or probably even turn on the lights. I guess he could livestream it on twitter like the Dems did with their sit-in a few years ago.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 23, 2019, 04:22:58 PM
Easiest way to fix that is just step around her. Make her irrelevant. Secure an alternate venue and give formal invitations to appropriate parties. They can choose to attend the address or choose to stay home like spoiled children.

Afterwards, issue a memo praising those who chose to attend. Make it an olive branch moment by heaping special praise on (D) and (I) reps for their commitment to country and constituents. Leave obvious silence for those absent, making them look like the obstinate, petty, infantile morons they are.

Brad
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2019, 04:39:27 PM
Easiest way to fix that is just step around her. Make her irrelevant. Secure an alternate venue and give formal invitations to appropriate parties. They can choose to attend the address or choose to stay home like spoiled children.

Afterwards, issue a memo praising those who chose to attend. Make it an olive branch moment by heaping special praise on (D) and (I) reps for their commitment to country and constituents. Leave obvious silence for those absent, making them look like the obstinate, petty, infantile morons they are.

Brad
I believe he's already been offered at least 1 or 2 alternate venues.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: 230RN on January 23, 2019, 09:16:13 PM
And Pelosi officially disinvites him:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/01/23/its-war-nancy-pelosi-just-formally-disinvited-donald-trump-from-delivering-sotu-address/

I think he would have been better off immediately saying he was going to speak at another venue versus pulling this "original invitation" stuff. Gave her too wide of an opening and now her base can talk about how "powerful" she is. Had he ignored her and just done a venue end-run, she would have looked powerless.

That would have looked like he had to give in.

"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee."

Somehow, Mohammed Ali comes to mind.

I have no doubt he's pre-planned for just about everything she can do.  

Somehow, General Patton comes to mind.



Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ben on January 24, 2019, 09:33:29 AM
Anyways, the SOTU is off until after the shutdown:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-will-give-state-of-the-union-after-shutdown-is-over
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: WLJ on January 24, 2019, 10:35:14 AM
Until he changes his mind.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: TommyGunn on January 24, 2019, 11:09:48 AM
Until he changes his mind.
....again .....
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: Ron on January 24, 2019, 11:23:35 AM
SOTU address is just a bog and pony show, I couldn’t care less.

Trumps Twitter account is a daily SOTU address.
Title: Re: Pelosi junket cancelled
Post by: TommyGunn on January 24, 2019, 11:24:49 AM
SOTU address is just a bog and pony show, I couldn’t care less.

Trumps Twitter account is a daily SOTU address.

We're doomed .....