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Title: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: Ben on February 12, 2019, 10:36:22 PM
This was interesting to me because only a few days ago I heard something about  I think NYC trying to prevent Waze from having checkpoints show up on nav maps because it causes people to avoid them and "hey - they're for public safety!" Now I read the below where in Charlotte they're thinking of removing checkpoints because they make illegals nervous.

Topsy turvy world we've got going right now.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/12/problematic-drunk-driving-checkpoints-are-reportedly-making-illegal-immigrants-nervous/
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 13, 2019, 07:40:03 AM
Here in Oklahoma they are considering a 20% tax on Uber/ride share fares to go toward drunk driver prevention.
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 13, 2019, 09:16:30 AM
Here in Oklahoma they are considering a 20% tax on Uber/ride share fares to go toward drunk driver prevention.
 :facepalm:

How do we incentive? ???
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: Firethorn on February 15, 2019, 12:12:24 AM
How do we incentive? ???

Pretty much this.  There's research out there showing that the decreased cost and increased convenience of Uber/Lyft and similar services is such that it decreased drunk driving by a measurable amount.  A 20% tax on transport fees would be reversing that.

And their idiocy is confirmed:
https://www.theadvocates.org/2019/02/ok-lawmakers-want-to-penalize-uber-users-for-not-drinking-and-driving/

How about this?  A 20% tax on bar served alcoholic beverages?  That might actually work.  Some.

In my experience, more cops on the street running DUI checkpoints is the MOST expensive way to reduce drunk driving.
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: Boomhauer on February 15, 2019, 05:53:00 AM
Here in Oklahoma they are considering a 20% tax on Uber/ride share fares to go toward drunk driver prevention.
 :facepalm:

Just a standard case of “*expletive deleted*ck the person trying to do the right thing to fill our coffers”


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Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: grampster on February 15, 2019, 08:09:13 AM
Thank goodness I live in Michigan.  Our state supreme court declared DUI checkpoints to be patently unconstitutional several years ago.  I don't like drunk drivers, but I dislike trampling on our inherent right to move around without the government interfering with that right even more.
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: MechAg94 on February 15, 2019, 08:55:52 AM
Just a standard case of “*expletive deleted*ck the person trying to do the right thing to fill our coffers”


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Looking back at gun control, they are at least being consistent.  Everyone is a criminal.  They just have to catch you.
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: Fly320s on February 15, 2019, 09:26:55 AM


How about this?  A 20% tax on bar served alcoholic beverages?  

No.

How about this?  We only punish people who are the problem. And by punish I mean actually punish.  Jail time, revoked license, fines, etc.  Not just probation and a gentle tap on the wrist.
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 15, 2019, 10:46:53 AM
No.

How about this?  We only punish people who are the problem. And by punish I mean actually punish.  Jail time, revoked license, fines, etc.  Not just probation and a gentle tap on the wrist.

You SAVAGE! Have you no compassion?

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Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: brimic on February 15, 2019, 10:52:54 AM
No.

How about this?  We only punish people who are the problem. And by punish I mean actually punish.  Jail time, revoked license, fines, etc.  Not just probation and a gentle tap on the wrist.

Following this precedent, how are they supposed to meet quota's for the department's or city's coffers?
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: Fly320s on February 15, 2019, 11:21:31 AM
Following this precedent, how are they supposed to meet quota's for the department's or city's coffers?

Asset forfeiture, imminent domain, and bribes.  The usual.
Title: Re: Drunk Driving Checkpoints
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on February 15, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
Asset forfeiture, imminent domain, and bribes.  The usual.

You forgot the red light cameras.