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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on February 14, 2019, 01:46:10 PM
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So I had no idea who this guy was until this alleged attack occurred a couple of weeks ago. Whether you think his story is fishy or legit, the role of the police has been interesting to me. From what I've seen, they've poured more resources into this investigation than they would for the murder of a nobody.
You have to wonder how ordinary citizens feel when the Chicago PD tells them they are too understaffed to do much about a rape or murder, but throw everything they've got into this because "celebrity", "diversity" "LGBTQDFG", or whatever is causing them to follow up so thoroughly. I would also be concerned about privacy issues regarding how they bloodhounded the two individuals in the video.
Part of all the extra and (to me) intrusive extra investigation of potential suspects seems to be because Smollett only turned over partial and redacted phone records from the time of the incident, that were actually on either side of the time the incident occurred (though he said he was on the phone when the incident occurred), so they were of no use to police. If it turns out this guy was doing one of those hate crime setups, I do hope he sees full prosecution.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/14/new-chicago-police-have-idd-and-are-questioning-the-two-people-from-the-surveillance-photo-jussiesmollett/
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Like you, until this story hit the news I had never heard of the guy.
The articles I've read say the two individuals were seen leaving the area 20 minutes (or so) before the [alleged] attack. They also say there's a one-minute gap in the video, so the actual attack isn't shown (how convenient), but within the span of one minute Smollett goes from condition white to having been insulted, beat up, and had a noose put around his neck. (And either fought back, or didn't -- depending on which version of his story you pay attention to.)
So far, IMHO, it doesn't add up. I think he created the entire story.
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There was also a supposed "redneck" on the loose at the time, and one version (as stated by the alleged victim) was that he was eating a sandwich and held onto it through the entire attack, which seems weird to me. Somebody tries putting a noose around my neck, my sandwich is either hitting the floor or getting stuffed in my assailant's face.
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Because Chi-town is MAGA country.
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Because Chi-town is MAGA country.
Yeah, especially lower wacker drive. Rolls eyes.
Whole bunch of things don’t add up. Second city cop blog is a good read from the street cops viewpoint.
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Whole bunch of things don’t add up. Second city cop blog is a good read from the street cops viewpoint.
Link?
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Now it's being reported that the two individuals in the video are both extras on "Empire". Starting to stink like Limburger.
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Now it's being reported that the two individuals in the video are both extras on "Empire". Starting to stink like Limburger.
It's been stinking like Limburger for a while ( maybe since the beginning). I have a hunch they started this for publicity and it has snowballed. If they cop to it now he will be ostracized from his community of liberal darlings and only get walk-ons as an extra. I feel he screwed the pooch, but I could be wrong.
bob
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https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others-allegedly-being-written-off-empire/5138497/
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Kudos to the city of Chicago and the neighborhood involved for not jumping on the Trump/maga hatred bandwagon.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/43512/abc-smollett-staged-attack-because-he-was-getting-james-barrett
Drama queen confirmed.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/43512/abc-smollett-staged-attack-because-he-was-getting-james-barrett
Drama queen confirmed.
#metoo!
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I guess we'll hear no more of this story.
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The whole thing smelled fishy from the get go
‘Multiple sources’ saying that Jussie Smollett attack was staged because he was being written out of show; Updated
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/14/multiple-sources-saying-that-jussie-smollett-attack-was-staged-because-he-was-being-written-out-of-show/
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Link?
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com
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So, two Nigerians are currently under arrest. I did not know there were Nigerian rednecks. Police confirm they have a "relationship" with Smollett. Smollett is still being considered a victim. I guess this is where it gets interesting in the "who sells out who?" arena.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/15/nigerian-rednecks-who-allegedly-attacked-jussie-smollett-have-been-arrested-and-have-a-relationship-with-him/
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It made sense from the beginning that the "assailants" were black. A couple of black guys would be more likely to know who Smollett was, and more likely to have strong feelings against homosexuality. That's assuming it was really an attack, and not staged. But Nigeria? I doubt Nigeria is very woke about the diverse rainbow of sexuality.
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I guess we'll hear no more of this story.
Except in a couple of years when the left brings it up as an example of how hateful and bigoted this country is. Along with that horrid attack on that noble Native American drummer!
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So, two Nigerians are currently under arrest. I did not know there were Nigerian rednecks. Police confirm they have a "relationship" with Smollett. Smollett is still being considered a victim. I guess this is where it gets interesting in the "who sells out who?" arena.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/15/nigerian-rednecks-who-allegedly-attacked-jussie-smollett-have-been-arrested-and-have-a-relationship-with-him/
Hmmm ...
Police now calling the brothers “Potential Suspects”. Detectives have probable cause that they may have been invovled [sic]in an alleged crime.
Note: "May" have been involved in an "alleged" crime. Nature of crime not stated. Definitely not stated that they may have been assailants, so the alleged crime could as well be accessories to making a false police report.
Stay tuned. [popcorn]
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My bet is on some kind of lover's quarrel . . .
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Just keep repeating, diversity is our strength, diversity is our strength...
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USA Today has links in other stories to an article about two suspects being "arrested." Follow the link to the story, and it says they have been released. No mention of an arrest.
It seems to be more and more clear that there was no attack, just a PR stunt.
The lamestream media also seem to be conspicuously silent on the fact that Smollett claimed the assailants were white, but the only two suspects are black.
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https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others-allegedly-being-written-off-empire/5138497/
I don't think this says anything new. I heard they searched the apartment of the two guys and found evidence that they did the attack, but this article doesn't say that. Not sure where that comment came from.
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It appears that the Nigerians bought the rope and are cooperating with LE. Smollett has hired Harvey Weinstein's attorney.
There are several prominent politicians that went on a "hate the white man" rampage over this. Will they backpedal, rationalize, or just hide until this drops down the news loops?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/16/report-those-two-nigerian-brothers-purchased-the-rope-found-around-jussie-smolletts-neck/
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It appears that the Nigerians bought the rope and are cooperating with LE. Smollett has hired Harvey Weinstein's attorney.
There are several prominent politicians that went on a "hate the white man" rampage over this. Will they backpedal, rationalize, or just hide until this drops down the news loops?
None of the above. They will never get asked about it, so they never have to worry about being wrong.
Besides, it COULD have happened, so they weren't wrong in the big picture, just like with those racist Catholic MAGA boys.
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CBS news is reporting that the two brothers were paid to help stage the "attack."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-case-brothers-say-empire-actor-paid-them-to-participate-in-alleged-attack-source-says-2019-02-16/
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None of the above. They will never get asked about it, so they never have to worry about being wrong.
Besides, it COULD have happened, so they weren't wrong in the big picture, just like with those racist Catholic MAGA boys.
Correct.
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Besides, it COULD have happened, so they weren't wrong in the big picture, just like with those racist Catholic MAGA boys.
"Journalists" are already making excuses and practically creating "victim status part 2" for him. If America weren't so evil, he wouldn't have had to resort to this, and really he's doing us a favor by creating a national discussion.
Nevermind that had some "rednecks" coincidentally been in the area, they might have very well had their lives ruined, even if they would have eventually been found innocent (after losing their jobs, going broke in legal fees, etc.).
Yet this crap keeps happening, because there is never any punishment for the perpetrator(s). In fact they are "victims" for being caught.
And people on the left wonder why Hillary's "deplorable" rant became a rallying cry that got Trump elected.
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It’s a real problem when there aren’t enough real redneck maga attacks that they have to stage fake ones to keep the hate on.
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"Journalists" are already making excuses and practically creating "victim status part 2" for him. If America weren't so evil, he wouldn't have had to resort to this, and really he's doing us a favor by creating a national discussion.
The truth must be defended against the lies of facts at all costs
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With the way the media works and the avg persons short attention span many will remember the accusations but never hear of the resolution.
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With the way the media works and the avg persons short attention span many will remember the accusations but never hear of the resolution.
It will be burried by something else by then anyway.
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It’s a real problem when there aren’t enough real redneck maga attacks that they have to stage fake ones to keep the hate on.
How can you be an oppressed victim if there is no oppression? I am sure he justifies the the lie because of all the "real" oppression that goes unreported in his fantasy world.
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A few interesting things going on:
Cory Booker now says "We must withhold judgement" until more information comes to light. Pretty much the opposite of what he did when this first came out.
Nancy Pelosi thought she could delete her tweet and make it all go away, but the Internet is forever.
A Vox "reporter" (how the hell is Vox a news source?) states on CNN that no news outlets spread the "MAGA country" snippet - that was all celebrities, not reliable news sources. I'm pretty sure almost every news outlet made that the lead.
Meanwhile, in Tennessee, a guy pulls a gun on a couple that were wearing MAGA hats and says, "It's a good day for you to die." Somehow, when the MAGA hat is on the other foot, so to speak, the altercation is nowhere to be found in the MSM (or celebrity tweets).
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/17/guy-arrested-after-allegedly-pulling-gun-on-a-couple-wearing-maga-hats-but-why-he-couldnt-flee-the-scene-is-an-instant-classic/
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Just read that the evidence the Chitown cops have collected has been turned over to a grand jury.
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Just read that the evidence the Chitown cops have collected has been turned over to a grand jury.
From what I have read, if he's found guilty of sending the fake anthrax letters to the show, he may very well do some seriously hard time.
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Lost count of how many of these "MAGA attacks" have been proven false.
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Lost count of how many of these "MAGA attacks" have been proven false.
All of them....
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All of them....
Everyone I've heard about.
Just lost count of the sheer number a while back
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Here's an attack on a MAGA hat wearing man that is true.
https://www.wnky.com/man-accused-of-pulling-gun-on-couple-wearing-maga-hats/
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Here's an attack on a MAGA hat wearing man that is true.
https://www.wnky.com/man-accused-of-pulling-gun-on-couple-wearing-maga-hats/
I'm referring to the other way around.
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I'm referring to the other way around.
I know, but somehow the left is going to blame the people wearing the hats for the attack.
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I know, but somehow the left is going to blame the people wearing the hats for the attack.
It's OK to pull a gun on a Nazi.
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(https://i.imgur.com/dkZPN9O.jpg)
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So . . . Smollet's claims are factually incorrect but morally right?
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CNN has just announced that it's hiring Smollett as its new lead investigative reporter
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According to this he staged the attack because their was a racist incident that in his opinion didn't get enough attention. But, I'm getting the impression, they don't come right out and say it, that that "attack" may have been staged too.
Report: Jussie Smollett Staged Attack After Racist Letter Didn’t Get ‘Bigger Reaction’
https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-jussie-smollett-staged-attack-after-racist-letter-didnt-get-bigger-reaction
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Report: Jussie Smollett Staged Attack After Racist Letter Didn’t Get ‘Bigger Reaction’
https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-jussie-smollett-staged-attack-after-racist-letter-didnt-get-bigger-reaction
Note this part:
The missive itself contained letters cut out from magazines to create “racial and homophobic threats” towards Smollett specifically. During a search of the Osundairo brothers’ home last week, CPD reportedly found and took a “magazine, a wallet with stamps and piece of paper/writing.”
A different story I read says that the magazines (that story had it in plural) were missing pages. The inference was that the "letter" was his first attempt at attention and when that didn't draw enough sympathy, he escalated.
Also infuriating was his quote to cops that he would absolutely press charges when they caught "the bad guys" which means he was absolutely willing to sell a couple of innocent white guys up the river to keep his story going. As far as I'm concerned, he should be charged with whatever his fake assailants would have been charged with. So a "hate crime" assault that should land him in prison from 5-10.
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Yeah, the magazine part is what is giving me the impression that the first (letter) attack was staged as well.
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And I liked him in 'Alien: Covenant', where had had a particularly gruesome death while humping his girlfriend in the shower. All was going well until the Alien punched right through the back of his head.
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So as far as I can tell as of today, of all the people (mostly the MSM and celebrities) that called for "death to rednecks", half of them are now suddenly doing the "We need to wait for all the facts before passing judgment" thing. The other half are claiming this is a setup by racist Chicago PD (soon to include "racist Trump").
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/19/no-big-deal-just-cardi-b-floating-a-conspiracy-theory-that-racist-chicago-police-framed-jussie-smollett/
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half of them are now suddenly doing the "We need to wait for all the facts before passing judgment" thing. The other half are claiming this is a setup by racist Chicago PD
I saw that also. it doesn't matter how this ends, he will be given a pass because he felt the whole world is so racist that he was forced into pulling off this hoax in order to shine the bright beacon of hope on this ongoing injustice. =|
bob
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The FBI is now involved:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/19/shocking-report-feds-investigating-whether-jussie-smollett-sent-threatening-letter-to-himself/
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I blame Russian influence inside the NRA and plastic straws. So...Trumps fault.
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I blame Russian influence inside the NRA and plastic straws. So...Trumps fault.
Trump's fault? What am I? Chopped liver? =(
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Trump's fault? What am I? Chopped liver? =(
Sorry, TDS Trumps "fistful's fault". :laugh:
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The FBI is now involved:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/19/shocking-report-feds-investigating-whether-jussie-smollett-sent-threatening-letter-to-himself/
Oooops, if true he didn't think that one out at all. But my money is on the fact that nothing will happen to him.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzyiMDmW0AIhpxP.jpg:large)
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(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/the-jussie-smollett-case-highlights-a-societal-problem-that-has-persisted-much-too-long-actors-who-t.jpg)
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“I still maintain that,” Sharpton said. “And if it is that Smollett and these gentlemen did in some way perpetuate something that is not true, they ought to face accountability to the maximum.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/43665/al-sharpton-demands-smollett-face-accountability-ashe-schow
Sharpton himself has escaped consequences for the role he played in one of the most famous rape and race hoaxes in modern American history.
In 1987, teenager Tawana Brawley claimed she was raped by a group of white men who wrote racial slurs on her body, smeared her with feces and wrapped her in a plastic bag. Sharpton jumped to her defense, and the case not only inflamed racial tensions in the U.S., but also launched his career as a prominent race-baiter.
As for Sharpton, he was also ordered to pay $65,000 in defamation damages, but the money was paid back by his supporters, after he refused to pay for years.
So, in summary: How has Sharpton “faced accountability” for his actions in perpetrating a race and rape hoax? He has his own show on MSNBC, is still asked for comment on issues of race, and had his friends pay off the debts he accrued from perpetrating a hoax.
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The two brothers involved in the Jussie Smollett attack told police that Smollett was behind creating a racist letter that was sent to the actor on the set of his show, “Empire,” according to two sources with first-hand knowledge of the investigation.
And when that letter did not get a “bigger reaction,” Smollett orchestrated the attack a week later with the two men–Ola and Abel Osundairo, sources said. Also Tuesday, sources said the two brothers were seen on a ride share video camera before being dropped off near the location of the attack.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/02/20/busted-jussie-smollett-wrote-the-racist-letter-that-led-to-the-alleged-fake-hate-n2541897
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So apparently, because he's "a consummate professional" on set, 20th Century Fox has no plans to remove him from Empire because of any problems in his personal life. Compare and contrast to Roseanne Barr.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/20/sick-of-double-standards-heres-why-foxs-handling-of-jussie-smollett-shows-the-hypocrisy-is-real/
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So apparently, because he's "a consummate professional" on set, 20th Century Fox has no plans to remove him from Empire because of any problems in his personal life. Compare and contrast to Roseanne Barr.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/20/sick-of-double-standards-heres-why-foxs-handling-of-jussie-smollett-shows-the-hypocrisy-is-real/
You expect them to hold a black guy and Jewish lady to the same standard? Isn't that racist?
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Snopes fact checking Babylon Bee :rofl:
‘Delete yourselves’: Snopes seriously just fact-checked the Babylon Bee’s post on Jussie Smollett and CNN
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/20/delete-yourselves-snopes-seriously-just-fact-checked-the-babylon-bees-post-on-jussie-smollett-and-cnn/
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Snopes fact checking Babylon Bee :rofl:
20 years ago I thought Snopes was the bomb. Of course they didn't do politics back then. Now they're just a parody of their original selves.
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Update: Smollett officially now a suspect.
https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollet-a-suspect-in-criminal-investigation-for-filing-false-police-report-police-say/5147410/
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Update: Smollett officially now a suspect.
https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollet-a-suspect-in-criminal-investigation-for-filing-false-police-report-police-say/5147410/
If they think he sent the "white powder" to himself he is gonna be in a world of hurt because that should go to the Feds.
Hey, one can hope and dream....right?
bob
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Note the date :facepalm:
It is absolutely *essential* that we believe Jussie Smollett.
If we don’t, other people who haven’t been attacked might not have the courage to come forward.#IBelieveJussie
— Titania McGrath (@TitaniaMcGrath) February 20, 2019
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/20/stunningly-brave-titania-mcgraths-take-on-jussie-smollett-will-bring-you-to-whole-new-levels-of-wokeness/
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Note the date :facepalm:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/20/stunningly-brave-titania-mcgraths-take-on-jussie-smollett-will-bring-you-to-whole-new-levels-of-wokeness/
From a quick scroll through her tweets, I'm pretty sure Mz. Mcgrath's is a parody account. But it's getting harder to be sure.
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Boom!
Indicted.
https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollet-a-suspect-in-criminal-investigation-for-filing-false-police-report-police-say/5147410/
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I'm calling it here now:
Mr. Smollett's legal issues will get him fired from Empire whether or not he's convicted.
His character will be written off the show by being killed in a Hate Crime, by a white dude.
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From a quick scroll through her tweets, I'm pretty sure Mz. Mcgrath's is a parody account. But it's getting harder to be sure.
A lot of AOC's tweets reads like parody. It really is harder to tell now-a-days.
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And the popo will negotiate with his legal beagles to arrange appropriate surrender. For a felony, wait until Roger Stone sees this.
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From a quick scroll through her tweets, I'm pretty sure Mz. Mcgrath's is a parody account. But it's getting harder to be sure.
Yup, and sadly, it took me more time than I would have liked to figure that out, because that's how whack things are getting.
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And the popo will negotiate with his legal beagles to arrange appropriate surrender. For a felony, wait until Roger Stone sees this.
Yeah, why aren't 20 SWAT guys raiding his house? From the LE statements during the Stone arrest, that's SOP.
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... and Smollett has been charged:
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/empire-actor-jussie-smollett-now-classified-as-a-suspect-in-a-criminal-probe-following-attack-claims-chicago-police-say
Authorities in Chicago on Wednesday approved felony criminal charges against "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett, hours after he was "officially classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation" for allegedly "filing a false police report" in connection with his Jan. 29 attack claims, police said.
The update in the case was provided by the department's Chief of Communications Officer Anthony Guglielmi on Twitter, who said the Cook County State's Attorney's Office approved the "Disorderly Conduct / Filing a False Police Report" charges.
"Detectives will make contact with his legal team to negotiate a reasonable surrender for his arrest," he continued.
So far, Smollet has not surrendered, Chicago police told Fox News. His attorneys were made aware of the charges.
Per previous posts in this thread: no Roger Stone scenario, apparently.
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How much do we have to pay a cop to wear a maga hat when the guy gets booked?
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... and Smollett has been charged:
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/empire-actor-jussie-smollett-now-classified-as-a-suspect-in-a-criminal-probe-following-attack-claims-chicago-police-say
Per previous posts in this thread: no Roger Stone scenario, apparently.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Not holding my breath on that ahole doing time, but I never thought charges would happen. THIS is MAGA country, you *expletive deleted*ing goober.
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They'll slap him on the hand
Release him
He'll go on the talk show circuit taking about how it all happened because of Trump's racism
Sign a 50 million dollar book deal
Be cast as the next Captain Marvel in Captain Marvel vs MAGA Man
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Be cast as the next Captain Marvel in Captain Marvel vs MAGA Man
You're kidding, right? How can Jussie Smollett/Captain Whatever compete with MAGA Man?
(https://am24.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2016/11/god-emperor-trump-feature.jpg)
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You're kidding, right? How can Jussie Smollett/Captain Whatever compete with MAGA Man?
(https://am24.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2016/11/god-emperor-trump-feature.jpg)
Through the power of DIVERSITY!!!
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You're kidding, right? How can Jussie Smollett/Captain Whatever compete with MAGA Man?
Couldn't bring yourself to say Captain Marvel could you?
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If they think he sent the "white powder" to himself he is gonna be in a world of hurt because that should go to the Feds.
Hey, one can hope and dream....right?
bob
BobR,
From a link above, the FBI and the Postal Inspectors are already looking at that.
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Couldn't bring yourself to say Captain Marvel could you?
Nope. :old:
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In other news, Smollett has turned himself in.
https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollett-in-custody-after-being-charged-with-disorderly-conduct/5148577/
Someone please refresh my memory -- when this all started, didn't Smollett initially report that the attackers were white males wearing ski masks? If my recollection is correct, why is it that none of the media outlets have commented on the change in color of the alleged assailants? All the articles I read now just say that Smollett claims he was attacked by two males wearing ski masks.
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They'll slap him on the hand
Release him
He'll go on the talk show circuit taking about how it all happened because of Trump's racism
Sign a 50 million dollar book deal
Be cast as the next Captain Marvel in Captain Marvel vs MAGA Man
I think they'll use some kind of psychological (TDS) defense. I only say that after yesterday having read a list of his past twitter rants against Trump. Angry and threatening. VERY angry and threatening.
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Through the power of DIVERSITY!!!
Said while he holds a dido up in the air (think He Man) and he changes into a "Ma'am" in a rainbow colored suit
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There will be multiple delays in the trial, it will become old news, something big will happen that dominates the news cycle and there will quickly be a plea bargain and sentencing to community service that won’t be reported in the msm due to the big story.
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After his story completely fell apart, with evidence showing he sent the letter himself and hired two brothers (of Nigerian descent) to attack him, on Wednesday evening the news broke that Smollet would be charged. CNN's Don Lemon, whose show airs at 10 p.m. eastern, had a meltdown and proclaimed this isn't Smollet's fault. Further, Lemon's biggest concern seems to be the reaction from Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson.
Video at the link
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/02/21/watch-cnns-don-lemon-have-a-meltdown-over-jussie-smollets-felony-charges-n2541981
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Well, he DID dominate the news cycle for the entire Black History Month.
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More, "We have to find out the facts" nonsense from politicians who were happy to condemn two fictional white rednecks with zero facts.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/02/21/puh-leeze-count-kirsten-gillibrand-among-dems-who-now-want-to-find-out-the-facts-before-commenting-about-jussie-smollett/
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More, "We have to find out the facts" nonsense from politicians who were happy to condemn two fictional white rednecks the entire white race with zero facts.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/02/21/puh-leeze-count-kirsten-gillibrand-among-dems-who-now-want-to-find-out-the-facts-before-commenting-about-jussie-smollett/
FIFY
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It appears that we now HAVE the facts. Facts are what grand juries look at before deciding whether or not to hand down indictments.
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Snopes fact checking Babylon Bee :rofl:
‘Delete yourselves’: Snopes seriously just fact-checked the Babylon Bee’s post on Jussie Smollett and CNN
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/20/delete-yourselves-snopes-seriously-just-fact-checked-the-babylon-bees-post-on-jussie-smollett-and-cnn/
Hasn't there been a few times in the past where Snopes "fact checked" the Babylon Bee? :rofl:
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Video at the link
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/02/21/watch-cnns-don-lemon-have-a-meltdown-over-jussie-smollets-felony-charges-n2541981
At 25:20 And now apparently leaks and "unnamed sources" are a bad thing. :rofl:
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"Just the circumstances and the way he told the story, and what he said happened to him sort of fit in with a -- not a narrative, but a reality for a lot of people in this country since President Trump was inaugurated, that there is an atmosphere of menace and an atmosphere of hate around the country that made it possible for people to either readily believe or want to believe Jussie Smollett. But on the other hand, at the same time, there were people who immediately thought something was fishy," he said.
WaPo Columnist: The Trump Era Made Jussie Smollett’s Fake Hate Crime Seem Believable
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/02/21/wapo-columnist-the-trump-era-made-jussie-smolletts-fake-hate-crime-seem-believable-n2542004
And who's creating that atmosphere?
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WaPo Columnist: The Trump Era Made Jussie Smollett’s Fake Hate Crime Seem Believable
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/02/21/wapo-columnist-the-trump-era-made-jussie-smolletts-fake-hate-crime-seem-believable-n2542004
And who's creating that atmosphere?
Yes, thank you.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jussie-smollett-case-chicago-police-superintendent-s-full-remarks-n974026
In case the Chitown Police Superintendents statement hasn’t been posted here. He was on target and unloaded.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jussie-smollett-case-chicago-police-superintendent-s-full-remarks-n974026
In case the Chitown Police Superintendents statement hasn’t been posted here. He was on target and unloaded.
Fine job, Sup - now do the Democratic Party.
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Reason #45,723 I can't tell parody from reality anymore
However, Gabby Sidibe maintains that she still believes Smollett’s version of events, despite growing evidence to the contrary.
“I know him, I believe him, I stand with him. #jussiesmollett,” Sidibe wrote on Instagram, accompanied by a quote from the black nationalist Malcolm X on the oppression of black people.
‘Empire’ Star Gabby Sidibe Still Believes Jussie Smollett: Victim of ‘Irresponsible Media’
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/02/21/empire-gabby-sidibe-still-believes-jussie-smollett-victim-of-irresponsible-media/
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Reportedly, Smollett pulled these stunts because he was unhappy with his salary.
He earned $65,000 per episode. There are 18 episodes per season. That's $1,170,000 per year. There are MANY families in the United States who get by on an income per year that's less than what this clown brings in per episode. He's beyond disgusting and beneath contempt.
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I cannot but laugh when one of our culture's dancing monkeys end up flinging poo at itself.
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I cannot but laugh when one of our culture's dancing monkeys end up flinging poo at itself.
Can I steal that for use elsewhere?
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Reportedly, Smollett pulled these stunts because he was unhappy with his salary.
He earned $65,000 per episode. There are 18 episodes per season. That's $1,170,000 per year. There are MANY families in the United States who get by on an income per year that's less than what this clown brings in per episode. He's beyond disgusting and beneath contempt.
On the CBS evening news just now, they reported that Mr. Smollett recently received a raise to $ 180,000 per episode, or $ 1.8 million per season.
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The idiot Friends were pulling down a million an episode ten years ago.
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Saw this on twitter.
Last night as I was walking to Quiznos I was attacked by Jussie Smollett and two of his friends while they screamed, "This is Hope & Change country!"
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Spin Spin Spin
Stafford then suggested that the Chicago Police Department leaked information to make Smollett look bad because they support Trump, conveniently ignoring the fact that it was Smollett who called the police in the first place to report what officers are now saying was a staged attack.
Yet, Stafford suggested that the Chicago Police Department knew Smollett was lying and called “it a racist and homophobic attack” on “day one” to “use it against” Smollett at the end of the investigation.
“Personally, it was incredibly shocking on day one to see the police department call it a racist and homophobic attack. Their first statement—they exclusively said that, said they’re investigating it as a victim case,” Stafford said on MSNBC. “As someone that has been investigating these for years in Chicago, that was really unprecedented before… And a lot of the time people in the background were worried they were leaning into this victim part of the story because they didn’t believe him and they wanted to use it against him at the end when they were able to prove that he was lying.”
Advocate Mag Editor Suggests Pro-Trump Police Rigged Investigation to Harm Smollett
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/02/22/advocate-mag-editor-suggests-pro-trump-police-rigged-investigation-to-harm-smollet/
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Spin Spin Spin
Advocate Mag Editor Suggests Pro-Trump Police Rigged Investigation to Harm Smollett
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/02/22/advocate-mag-editor-suggests-pro-trump-police-rigged-investigation-to-harm-smollet/
So their spin is that an organ of the Chicago government is......Pro Trump? Chicago, Illinois?
OK.
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On the CBS evening news just now, they reported that Mr. Smollett recently received a raise to $ 180,000 per episode, or $ 1.8 million per season.
The Daily Mail says it's $100,000 per episode, for an annual haul of $1.8 million. That math works ... yours would come out to $3.24 million per season.
After police Superintendent Eddie Johnson's press conference on Thursday, I find myself wondering if the fix is in. Johnson didn't use any "alleged" qualifiers in his remarks. Cue the defense to argue for dismissal on the basis of prejudicial remarks making it impossible to get a fair trial.
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Video of the attack on Smollett:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_JOGmXpe5I
(except I don't think he's that clever)
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Video of the attack on Smollett:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_JOGmXpe5I
(except I don't think he's that clever)
Looks staged
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:rofl:
Charles Barkley has some advice for America & Jussie Smollett
https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1098810571993034752/video/1
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Looks staged
So does this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wAtjDAyv4M
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So their spin is that an organ of the Chicago government is......Pro Trump? Chicago, Illinois?
OK.
Of course. Cops everywhere are Trump-loving, gay-hating, white supremacists. Even the black police superintendent in Chicago, of course.
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So does this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wAtjDAyv4M
Capt Sisko finally had enough of Garak's crap.
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Capt Sisko finally had enough of Garak's crap.
I thought he was dissing Curtis Mayfield.
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In case my reference is too obscure for non Star Trek fans
The guy (Scorpio) getting the crap beat out of him is played by Andrew J. Robinson who also played Garak on Star Trek:DS9
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this
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The idiot Friends were pulling down a million an episode ten years ago.
It's 15 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_One_(Friends)
And not only was it one of (if not the) most popular television shows, it also was part of the last days of broadcast TV as the almost sole source of entertainment for the country.
Today is a much different situation. For example, I had never even heard of the show, let alone this guy before the hoax he orchestrated. I don't watch TV, but I do know the names of most of the popular programs.
As an example, Friends finale pulled in 52.5 Million viewers, 15 years ago. They averaged 22 Million viewers that season. Big Bang Theory's current season average: 12 Million viewers. 15 years later and the most popular TV show is pulling in 10 million fewer viewers.
What's that got to do with Smollett? Nothing, I just thought it was interesting. And since I went down this rabbit hole, I took all of you with me.
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And here's his "Get out of jail free" card: "I have a drug problem."
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/22/after-getting-axed-from-the-final-2-episodes-it-looks-like-jussie-smollett-is-getting-ready-to-play-the-addict-card/
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And here's his "Get out of jail free" card: "I have a drug problem."
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/22/after-getting-axed-from-the-final-2-episodes-it-looks-like-jussie-smollett-is-getting-ready-to-play-the-addict-card/
I'm pretty sure that after all that's gone on, the "addict card" won't help.
Should've used the Spacey gambit, the tried and true "BUT I'M GAY"..... Wait, that won't work here. >:D
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And here's his "Get out of jail free" card: "I have a drug problem."
My response to him: So what?
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And here's his "Get out of jail free" card: "I have a drug problem."
Get him tested, most drugs stay in your system. Do a hair test !!
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My response to him: So what?
This would be a rational response. I think he should be charged with the same "hate crime" the fictional white rednecks perpetrated, and do the same jail time they would have gotten.
I will, however, bet real money right now that he ends up doing zero jail time. It will be rehab for "a problem he couldn't control", community service, and possibly a fine.
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I hadn't seen what Maxine Waters originally said about this:
Maxine Waters
Verified account @RepMaxineWaters
Jussie is my friend - a very talented & beautiful human being. It is so hurtful that homophobic haters would dare hurt someone so loving and giving. I'm dedicated to finding the culprits and bringing them to justice. Jussie did not deserve to be harmed by anyone!
She's currently waiting for more facts before finding any culprits.
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He'll declare that he identifies as a woman and the of course the woman must be believed.
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I hadn't seen what Maxine Waters originally said about this:
She's currently waiting for more facts before finding any culprits.
Perhaps she and OJ can team up to find the real culprits/killers.
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And here's his "Get out of jail free" card: "I have a drug problem."
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/22/after-getting-axed-from-the-final-2-episodes-it-looks-like-jussie-smollett-is-getting-ready-to-play-the-addict-card/
It's Hollyweird, I would only be surprised if he DIDN'T have a drug problem.
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I watched these two very short videos, and I notice there's no mention (edited video, I know) of anyone being relieved that a violent act of bigotry did NOT take place in a "progressive" city like Chicago.
https://youtu.be/zflXU7acDMA
https://youtu.be/fROvotxKpRE
That second lady even says she was disappointed to hear that it was faked. Obviously, you could take that a couple of different ways, but it makes me wonder what some people's priorities are.
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The police have released a video of a rehearsal of the attack. https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/au71wr/how_jussie_smollett_rehearsed_his_attack/?st=JSJOLO9O&sh=9e48dae4 (https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/au71wr/how_jussie_smollett_rehearsed_his_attack/?st=JSJOLO9O&sh=9e48dae4)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGF63lWl2fk
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On the @DrPhil show, a guest shared why she lied to police about details of her alleged hate attack by Trump supporters. She blamed police for dismissing the true parts of her story. I called her out. Watch: https://t.co/HFdJxZfh4E cc: @benshapiro @sallykohn pic.twitter.com/1s3xlzjbt0
— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) February 27, 2019
Why do people fabricate hate hoaxes? Why wouldn't they? I explain on @DrPhil show how many hate hoaxers don't even think they are doing something wrong, believing it "sparks" a conversation. Watch: https://t.co/kmOWObaBHb cc: @benshapiro @sallykohn pic.twitter.com/st3q9axUDb
— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) February 27, 2019
Thanks to @TheDrPhilShow for having me BUT let me say here what wasn't in edited clip
* 99.7% of reported hate crimes are verified
* Upwards of 97% of hate crimes are never reported
* We don't know what happened to Jussie. We do know too many victims are ignored. Or worse. https://t.co/x2WZy7cneD
— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) February 27, 2019
More of my brain cells just jumped ship
‘Sparks fly’: Ben Shapiro, Andy Ngo, Sally Kohn talk Jussie Smollett and hoax hate crimes on ‘Dr. Phil’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/27/sparks-fly-ben-shapiro-andy-ngo-sally-kohn-talk-jussie-smollett-and-hoax-hate-crimes-on-dr-phil/
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Those sparks were brain synapses frying.
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Sally Kohn clearly wishes not to be taken seriously, or she wouldn't take such pains to make her physical appearance so ridiculous.
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Sally Kohn clearly wishes not to be taken seriously, or she wouldn't take such pains to make her physical appearance so ridiculous.
And/or she wouldn't say such ridiculous things.
Upwards of 97% of hate crimes are never reported/
If they aren't reported, nobody knows about them. How does anyone manage to put a number -- whether it's 97 percent or any other number -- on something that's completely unknown and unknowable?
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If they aren't reported, nobody knows about them. How does anyone manage to put a number -- whether it's 97 percent or any other number -- on something that's completely unknown and unknowable?
Feelings Duh!
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Update - Smollett indicted on 16 felony counts:
https://6abc.com/jussie-smollett-indicted-on-16-felony-counts-by-grand-jury/5177586/
No doubt the grand jury was stacked with racists. Or something.
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Update - Smollett indicted on 16 felony counts:
https://6abc.com/jussie-smollett-indicted-on-16-felony-counts-by-grand-jury/5177586/
No doubt the grand jury was stacked with racists. Or something.
Was just coming here to post that.... I'm actually surprised they hit him with that many counts and all felony... I figured a slap on the wrist at most if anything at all...
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Was just coming here to post that.... I'm actually surprised they hit him with that many counts and all felony... I figured a slap on the wrist at most if anything at all...
This is only the indictment. A judge can still administer a slap on the wrist -- IF Smollett is even convicted.
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Hawmoon commented on Sally Kohn's statistics,
From: Sally Kohn...
"Upwards of 97% of hate crimes are never reported"
But Hawkmoon said,
"If they aren't reported, nobody knows about them. How does anyone manage to put a number -- whether it's 97 percent or any other number -- on something that's completely unknown and unknowable?"
What the hell's the matter with you Hawkmoom? That's at least the second time I know about that you've torn apart some Leftlogic. When they say 2 + 2 = 5 you have to believe it, speak it, live it.
You must take a remedial doublethink class again.
Sheesh!
Terry
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I think the Prosecutor really wanted to really discourage other fake reports like this. I reckon the Grand Jury agreed with him/her.
"Throw the book at him ! "
Terry
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Another aspect of overcharging is to encourage the miscreant to take a plea deal on some of the charges in exchange for others to be dropped.
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He'll use the TDS defense, Trump's racism made him do it.
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Someone with Wikipedia editing privileges might want to go over there and put "our" definition of TDS ("Trump Derangement Syndrome") on their acronym list for "TDS."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDS
=D
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Someone with Wikipedia editing privileges might want to go over there and put "our" definition of TDS ("Trump Derangement Syndrome") on their acronym list for "TDS."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDS
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Like this?
Trump derangement syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
Seems to be fairly accurate
Okay, I have to ask being new here and all. How does "our" definition of TDS differ?
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Okay, I have to ask being new here and all. How does "our" definition of TDS differ?
I don't think "our" definition is any different. That article looks okay to me.
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Okay, thanks. Was wondering if there was something I wasn't aware of.
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Live by the media, die by the media
Defense Attorney: Jussie Smollett a Victim of a ‘Media Gangbang’
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/09/defense-attorney-jussie-smollett-a-victim-of-a-media-gangbang/
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So Geragos is still running with the "He's the victim" story. That's a loser. I think the reason the media turned against him so vehemently is that they (the media) don't like to be used as tools, and that's what Smollett did. After all, the reason he staged the "attack" was that his previous attempt at generating attention and sympathy as a "victim" didn't get any traction ... so he chose to up the ante.
Bad choice.
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https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/07/northwestern-employees-fired-jussie-smollett-attack/
The risk manager asks you to please not look up the medical records of celebrities. That is because I will run an access log to see who has been looking at the records and ask you why. If you don't have a legitimate reason, I will likely fire you and you can go complain to the Feds about how your breach of HIPAA should be excused.
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The point was, in looking it up as the acronym, "TDS," it didn't show up, per my link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDS
To find it on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome you have to know what it is in the first place.
Like looking up how to spell sychology or neumonia.
Example: Putting TANSTAAFL in (my) search window gives you the full meaning, whereas doing that with TDS doesn't.
No biggie. Half the reason I posted that was my ongoing running gripe about overuse of acronyms.
IOW HTRIPTWMORGAOOA.
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The other half was my ongoing running gripe about overuse of acronyms.
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It is said (somewhere), "Thou shalt not bear false witness." Or, TSNBFW.
Terry, 230RN
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It does show up per your link
It's the bottom result
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDS
TDS
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Look up TDS in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
TDS may refer to:
Contents
1 Business
2 Computing
3 Military
4 Science
5 Other uses
Business
An oscilloscope product line by Tektronix
Telephone and Data Systems or TDS Telecom, US telephony provider
Thompson Dorfman Sweatman, a law firm based in Winnipeg, Canada
Computing
Tabular Data Stream, a computer protocol normally used by database servers
TeX Directory Structure, a directory hierarchy for macros, fonts, and the other implementation-independent TeX system files
Transposition driven scheduling, an algorithm for solving puzzles efficiently in parallel computer systems
Military
Tonga Defence Services, the armed forces of Tonga
United States Army Trial Defense Service
Science
Ter die sumendum (TDS), a medical abbreviation meaning three times a day
Thermal desorption spectroscopy (TDS), to observe molecules desorbed from a surface
Tornado debris signature on weather radar
Total dissolved solids in water
Transderivational search or fuzzy search in psychology
Other uses
The Daily Show, an American late-night talk and news satire television program
Tax Deducted at Source, a means of collecting income tax in India
Tenancy Deposit Scheme (England and Wales)
Time-driven switching, in data communications
Technical data sheet, a CDMA technology term
TopDrawerSoccer.com, a college soccer website
Trump Derangement Syndrome, neologism framing opposition to the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump, in terms similar to mental disorders
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https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/07/northwestern-employees-fired-jussie-smollett-attack/
The risk manager asks you to please not look up the medical records of celebrities. That is because I will run an access log to see who has been looking at the records and ask you why. If you don't have a legitimate reason, I will likely fire you and you can go complain to the Feds about how your breach of HIPAA should be excused.
"Northwestern Hospital Employees Fired For Accessing Jussie Smollett’s Medical Records Say They Didn’t Do It"
Funny, Smollett is saying the same thing ...
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The point was, in looking it up as the acronym, "TDS", it didn't show up, per the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDS
To find it on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome, you have to know what it is in the first place.
Like looking up how to spell sychology or neumonia.
Example: Putting TANSTAAFL in (my) search window gives you the full meaning, whereas doing that with TDS doesn't.
No biggie. Half the reason I posted that was my ongoing running gripe about overuse of acronyms.
IOW HTRIPTWMORGAOOA.
The other half was my ongoing running gripe about overuse of acronyms.
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Terry, 230RN
"TDS" isn't an acronym. It's an initialism. HTH :angel:
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I'm pretty sure the reason they are throwing the book at Smollett is because he even insinuated that Chicago is MAGA country...
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I'm pretty sure the reason they are throwing the book at Smollett is because he even insinuated that Chicago is MAGA country...
It is. Make America Gangsta Again.
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Being a good standing member of the party has its privileges...
https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/empire-jussie-smollett-emergency-court-hearing/
Prosecutors on Tuesday dropped charges against “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett at a surprise court hearing.
The actor, who was charged with 16 counts of disorderly conduct for allegedly hiring two men to attack him in a staged hate-crime attack near his Streeterville home in January, has reached a deferred prosecution deal with prosecutors that will wipe out the charges against him. Smollett will forfeit the $10,000 he posted for bond.
“After reviewing all of the facts and circumstances of the case, including Mr. Smollet’s volunteer service in the community and agreement to forfeit his bond to the City of Chicago, we believe this outcome is a just disposition and appropriate resolution to this case,” the Cook County state’s attorney’s office said in statement.
Smollett’s attorneys Tina Glandian and Patricia Brown Holmes issued a statement after the hearing:
“Today, all criminal charges against Jussie Smollett were dropped and his record has been wiped clean of the filing of this tragic complaint against him. Jussie was attacked by two people he was unable to identify on January 29. He was a victim who was vilified and made to appear as a perpetrator as a result of false and inappropriate remarks made to the public causing an inappropriate rush to judgment.
“Jussie and many others were hurt by these unfair and unwarranted actions. This entire situation is a reminder that there should never be an attempt to prove a case in the court of public opinion. That is wrong. It is a reminder that a victim, in this case Jussie, deserves dignity and respect. Dismissal of charges against the victim in this case was the only just result.
“Jussie is relieved to have this situation behind him and is very much looking forward to getting back to focusing on his family, friends and career.”
Smollett on March 14 pleaded not guilty to charges he staged a hate-crime attack against himself in Streeterville.
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Being a good standing member of the party has its privileges...
https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/empire-jussie-smollett-emergency-court-hearing/
ARE YOU *expletive deleted*ing KIDDING ME!?!
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Back to my statement elsewhere about "The rules don't apply to them"....
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BREAKING: Chicago Prosecutors DROP CHARGES Against Jussie Smollett Over Faked Hate Crime — 16 Felony Counts WIPED CLEAN!
Maybe he knew somebody … =|
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/breaking-chicago-prosecutors-drop-charges-against-jussie-smollett/
[popcorn]
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BREAKING: Chicago Prosecutors DROP CHARGES Against Jussie Smollett Over Faked Hate Crime — 16 Felony Counts WIPED CLEAN!
Maybe he knew somebody … =|
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/breaking-chicago-prosecutors-drop-charges-against-jussie-smollett/
[popcorn]
You're half an hour slow. :old:
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This entire situation is a reminder that there should never be an attempt to prove a case in the court of public opinion. [\quote]
:rofl:
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Must be that white privilege I've been hearing about...
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BTW, Where are all of us white folks meeting for the riots and car turning over?
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Bizarre turn of events.
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Bizarre turn of events.
But hardly unprecedented. Once again, we see that some people are more equal than others. I am certain that the charges would not have been dropped if the [alleged] perpetrator were not a celebrity.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47711535
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Found this
According to the article Chicago's FOP was calling for a federal probe into whether or not Michelle Obama's former chief of staff was interfering in the case. The article is from March 22, 4 days ago.
Cops call for federal probe related to Obama aide involvement in Jussie Smollett case
https://pagesix.com/2019/03/22/union-calls-for-federal-probe-related-to-obama-aide-involvement-in-jussie-smollett-case/
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This could get interesting
So SA Foxx recused herself over apparent conflicts of interest and then un-recuseed herself and dropped the charges.
Yep, nothing suspicious about that. Nope, not at all.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/03/26/shady-chicago-pd-reportedly-furious-at-sa-kim-foxx-who-recused-herself-for-dropping-charges-against-jussie-smollett/
Oh and this
UPDATE: Cook County SAO says charges dropped because Jussie Smollett forfeited his $10,000 bond and for his 'volunteer service in the community' https://t.co/tGr1Ux19SR
— Twitchy Team (@TwitchyTeam) March 26, 2019
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So SA Foxx recused herself over apparent conflicts of interest and then un-recuseed herself and dropped the charges.
Yep, nothing suspicious about that. Nope, not at all.
Is there a source on that? According to this sounds like she remained recused?
First Assistant State’s Attorney Joseph Magats said the decision to drop the charges should not be interpreted that Smollett did not do what police and prosecutors have alleged — pay his assailants to fake the attack and then falsely report the incident to police.
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Magats, who became the final decision maker on the case after Foxx recused herself in mid-February, said prosecutors made the decision to drop the charges against Smollett under the same criteria they would any other defendant.
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First Assistant State’s Attorney Joseph Magats said the decision to drop the charges should not be interpreted that Smollett did not do what police and prosecutors have alleged — pay his assailants to fake the attack and then falsely report the incident to police.
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Magats, who became the final decision maker on the case after Foxx recused herself in mid-February, said prosecutors made the decision to drop the charges against Smollett under the same criteria they would any other defendant.
I'm fairly certain that this is cover for why the prosecutors allowed political pressure to close the case. Plausible deniability so when the cops get incensed (and insist on a federal investigation, as they already have), they can claim it was just "prosecutorial discretion in priorities".
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BREAKING: Chicago Prosecutors DROP CHARGES Against Jussie Smollett Over Faked Hate Crime — 16 Felony Counts WIPED CLEAN!
Maybe he knew somebody … =|
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/breaking-chicago-prosecutors-drop-charges-against-jussie-smollett/
[popcorn]
You misspelled "blew".
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Is there a source on that? According to this sounds like she remained recused?
Right now just those quotes in the twitchy article I linked to. Everywhere else just says "prosecutors"
If she did call for the charges to be dropped how could she have done so if she had remained recused from the case?
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You misspelled "blew".
He is buddies with Obama after all...
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rahm-emanuel-calls-jussie-smollett-181144914.html
Rahm Emanuel Calls Jussie Smollett Case ‘Whitewash of Justice’ Over Celebrity Status
He calls it a WHAT!?!?!
That racist!
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I bet he's really beating himself up over all this
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Chicago police detective tells @FoxNews “We have a lot more evidence than we told the media about and we were fully prepared to go to trial. We’re very angry this happened.” #JussieSmollett
— Matt Finn (@MattFinnFNC) March 26, 2019
https://townhall.com/entertainment/cortneyobrien/2019/03/26/prosecutors-abandon-jussie-smollett-case-n2543761
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I'm more pissed now than I was a few hours ago. This is the guy whose documented statement was that he would absolutely press charges on the fictional white guys. Which would have been two innocent shmucks who would have done at least 10 years.
I just read that his 16 hours of community service was working for Jesse Jackson.
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https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/26/enjoy-this-throwback-photo-of-states-attorney-kim-foxx-with-her-mentor-kamala-harris/
I'm . . . . shocked?
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I'm more pissed now than I was a few hours ago. This is the guy whose documented statement was that he would absolutely press charges on the fictional white guys. Which would have been two innocent shmucks who would have done at least 10 years.
I just read that his 16 hours of community service was working for Jesse Jackson.
Yep
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/03/26/that-was-his-community-service-guys-guess-what-jussie-smollett-did-to-help-get-those-charges-dropped/
Jussie Smollett did community service at Rainbow PUSH Saturday/Monday for about 16 hours total.
16 hours
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Possible link to the Obamas?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/26/tmz-check-out-who-texted-kim-foxx-with-concerns-about-the-jussie-smollett-investigation/
Granted, TMZ is not exactly quality journalism . . .
On the other hand:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/03/26/not-over-yet-jussie-smollett-reportedly-still-under-federal-investigation/
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It's getting weirder
Smollett's lawyer is claiming the Osundairo brothers attacked him
— Tanya Chen (@Tanya_Chen) March 26, 2019
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/03/26/absolutely-disgusting-so-this-is-the-strategy-jussie-smolletts-legal-team-is-going-with-now/
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Not that weird, IMO. They're the obvious fall guys.
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Also it should be noted that this jackass got his records expunged and sealed. There are, I would say, conservatively at least a couple of million people in this country who are innocent of crime, but have an arrest record that follows them wherever they go.
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Sorry, 18 hours
BTW: Love that photo of Bill and Jesse. Wonder what they're thinking? :laugh:
Jussie Smollett’s ‘Community Service’: 18 Hours with Jesse Jackson’s Organization
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/26/jussie-smollett-community-service-18-hours-with-jesse-jackson/
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And it would appear they're possibly suing
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You’ve said clearly you think the police are not telling the truth about Jussie. Are you going to sue?
TINA GLANDIAN: We’re weighing our options now. For Jussie, what’s important is he really just wants his career and his life back. Again, he did not ask for any of this. He was a victim of a crime. This has completely spiraled out of control and become a political event at this point, and his goal and focus right now is just getting his life back on track.
He’s not even started healing from the initial attack because he’s been dealing with everything what’s happened since then. I don’t know, I mean, we’re shocked at the mayor and the police superintendent doubling down yesterday when the prosecutor after a dispassion look at the evidence realized that it does not hold up and chose to voluntarily dismiss all counts and expunge his record. So at this point, we’re going to weigh our options and see how this develops.
Jussie Smollett Lawyer: ‘We’re Weighing Our Options’ on Suing Chicago Police
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/27/jussie-smollett-lawyer-were-weighing-our-options-on-suing-chicago-police/
He didn't ask for any of this, got that?
Translation: He didn't expect to be caught so that makes him the victim in all of this.
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So in essence, he pulled a somewhat bolder version of what kaepernick did in order to try to save his job.
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They've got the Nigerian brothers on record admitting to attacking Smollett … They should charge them with both the attack and lying to the police when they told the police that Jussie had set it up .
:police:
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And it would appear they're possibly suing
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Would they actually fight the lawsuit or would the political leadership do their best to knuckle under?
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I'm pretty sure they could rescind the deal and prosecute him if he gets too cocky. It's not double jeopardy because he hasn't been acquitted.
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Must be that white privilege I've been hearing about...
I've gotten people mad at me before by saying we have more of a class problem in the USA than a race problem at this point. It is just partially disguised in that blacks are disproportionately lower class.
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I hear Subway is naming a sandwich after Jussie. It will be their first baloney sandwich.
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Well as the old saying goes..."It's not who ya know, but who ya blow." :P
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"Sealed by accident."
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/27/uh-huh-states-attorney-kim-foxx-says-jussie-smolletts-court-file-was-sealed-inadvertently/
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Were the charges dropped by accident?
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"Sealed by accident."
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/27/uh-huh-states-attorney-kim-foxx-says-jussie-smolletts-court-file-was-sealed-inadvertently/
Could it be unsealed on purpose? ? ? ? ? >:D
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https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2019/03/28/164390
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg032819dAPR20190327034507.jpg)
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Okay, I'm gonna weigh in here. I've been working in the criminal justice system since 1994, at all different levels and different positions.
First, I have never heard of a prosecutor who says "case dismissed, but that doesn't mean the person isn't guilty." Does it happen? Yeah, when witnesses crap out on you, or evidence is lacking. But I've never seen that said out loud to the press...
Second, if a defendant is going to be offered some type of alternate resolution to criminal charges, the charges aren't dismissed until after the defendant completes the requirements of the alternate resolution. Why? So when the defendant fails to abide by the terms of the agreement, you don't have to start over from the beginning.
Third, I've never seen a prosecutor agree to seal a record the same day it's dismissed, and expunge it so quickly. Especially for some type of alternate resolution, and before the terms are fulfilled.
Fourth, I've seen juvenile cases get assigned more community service for a lot lesser charges. Hell, last case I was involved in, a 17 year old was given 40 hours for a misdemeanor criminal damaging case for egging a neighbor's shed.
I'm certain something stinks here. Wonder if we will ever find out the rest of the story...
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Wonder if we will ever find out the rest of the story...
I think we already know enough. He has powerful friends, and he's a precious, Trump-hating rainbow unicorn of color. Privilege is a helluva drug. Plus, we can't let Sean Hannity gloat. It hurts their precious feelz too much.
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I think we already know enough. He has powerful friends, and he's a precious, Trump-hating rainbow unicorn of color. Privilege is a helluva drug. Plus, we can't let Sean Hannity gloat. It hurts their precious feelz too much.
I'll give 'em a pass on Sean Hannity, I don't like him either.
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Okay, I'm gonna weigh in here. I've been working in the criminal justice system since 1994, at all different levels and different positions.
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I'm certain something stinks here. Wonder if we will ever find out the rest of the story...
Chris, when the fix is in, the fix is in.
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforward-now.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2Fthe-sting-225x300.jpg&hash=377370bd83a841d8eae339b9b6726fe065b1e59e)
Terry, 230RN
Pic credit in properties
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I'll give 'em a pass on Sean Hannity, I don't like him either.
Understood, but Don Lemon is worse.
DON LEMON, CNN: I have nothing but the utmost respect for my friends at ABC and other things. Robin [Roberts] did a terrific job on that interview. I'm just talking about how you respond to this sort of crisis. That doesn't really work anymore, and I think that is old school. This is playing out every single moment in cable news.
Sean Hannity's going to eat Jussie Smollett's lunch every single second. Tucker Carlson is going to eat Jussie Smollett's lunch every single second... the president of the United States is going to eat his lunch. And who does the president of the United States watch every night? Cable news. So that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/21/don_lemon_tucker_carlson_sean_hannity_donald_trump_are_going_to_eat_jussie_smolletts_lunch.html
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https://abc7chicago.com/fbi-reviewing-circumstances-of-jussie-smolletts-charges-being-dropped-sources/5219838/
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BTW: The Nigerian brothers may have been "white faced" according to Smollett's lawyer because.......
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/03/28/smolletts-attorney-suggests-the-nigerian-brothers-may-have-been-wearing-whiteface-n2543895
More: Now Smollett's attorney, Tina Glandian, is suggesting the Nigerian brothers may have worn "whiteface" on the night of the attack.
The police, she said, did "minimal investigation" and if they'd googled like she did, they would have found a video of them in a Joker getup. pic.twitter.com/G0AAXzol2v
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) March 28, 2019
Okay, so there's a video of the Nigerian brothers dressed up like The Joker, at some time in the past, so how does this get Smollett off the hook?
What's next? Putin wrote the check?
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The police did "minimal" investigation? According to the police, they devoted thousands of man-hours to the investigation. In fact, I seem to recall that a lot of people initially were highly upset about the number of detectives who were assigned to a case that, ultimately, resulted in the perp only having a few scratches and bruises when Chicago sees a LOT of serious crimes that don't get anything close to that level of attention. Why? Because Smollett was a celebrity, of course.
It's ironic that the very celebrity that caused the police to pay so much attention to the case resulted in the police paying enough attention to figure out that it was a scam. What's astonishing to me is that the loser is sticking to his story.
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So according to this she never actually recused herself because when she recused herself she didn't actually mean she was recusing herself.
Do I have that straight?
Shades of Bill Clinton's "I did not have "sex" with that woman.
Wow. Foxx’s office now admitting she didn’t *actually* recuse herself from the Smollett case, legally speaking. They just used that word “colloquially,” for public consumption.
https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1111287817559248896/photo/1
Oh My: Kim Foxx's Office Admits She Never Actually Recused Herself From Smollett Case, Used the Term 'Colloquially'
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/03/28/brutal-national-association-of-district-attorneys-memo-slams-kim-foxx-on-smollett-fiasco-point-by-point-n2543902
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So according to this she never actually recused herself because when she recused herself she didn't actually mean she was recusing herself.
Do I have that straight?
Shades of Bill Clinton's "I did not have "sex" with that woman.
Wow. Foxx’s office now admitting she didn’t *actually* recuse herself from the Smollett case, legally speaking. They just used that word “colloquially,” for public consumption.
https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1111287817559248896/photo/1
Oh My: Kim Foxx's Office Admits She Never Actually Recused Herself From Smollett Case, Used the Term 'Colloquially'
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/03/28/brutal-national-association-of-district-attorneys-memo-slams-kim-foxx-on-smollett-fiasco-point-by-point-n2543902
So colloquially means "we can do whatever we want, and owe you no explanation at all." I never knew that.
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Foxx's fingers were crossed at the time, so it doesn't count.
Jeez, am I the only one who remembers playground etiquette?
ETA: how deep are Smollett's pockets?
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollets-attorney-demands-apology-from-mayor-police-chief-jussie-has-paid-enough
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Who would investigate the prosecutor; see if she took a bribe? (if anybody actually cares about corruption in Chicago) The FBI? The state police? Illinois Bureau of Investigation?
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I hear the feds might be picking up the case, as well as a current ongoing investigation of him mailing a substance to himself.
This isn’t going to end well for him...
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Another theory that I’ve heard, is that I heard is that he will turn up dead, and the perp will be an alleged white supremist.
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Another theory that I’ve heard, is that I heard is that he will turn up dead, and the perp will be an alleged white supremist.
My guess is the two Nigerian dudes won't be too interested in signing on to kill him, so he's going to have to start shopping for a new accomplice/co-conspirator.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/chicago-police-investigative-file-on-smollett-case-sheds-light-on-3500-check-fbi-involvement
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https://www.niagarafoundation.org/gregory-wing/
🤔
It might be time to put him on suicide watch, if he had anything to do with obama’s ‘Hotdog parties’ or the Clinton crime family.
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Can someone more versed in legalese comment on this? It looks like Foxx is in some serious hot water to me.
Follow the link in the quote for the IPBA statment
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/28/the-public-has-the-right-to-know-the-truth-illinois-prosecutors-bar-association-blasts-jussie-smollett-deal/
It now looks like Cook County's "deal" with Jussie Smollett isn't just strange, it might actually be in violation of Illinois law. https://t.co/7j3jnqJyO4
— Emily Zanotti (@emzanotti) March 28, 2019
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Obama’s ‘Hotdog parties’
Do I even want to know what that is? =|
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I think that this whole affair was done to support Harris and Booker's anti lynching bill … I'm guessing he's dumb enough to have told the "White Brothers" so they have the same trump card to avoid prosecution that Smollett had. I expect this to disappear just like the Awan family's crimes …
=|
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2019/03/28/jussie-smollett-up-naacp-award-host-anthony-anderson-hopes-he-wins/3298234002/
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(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ddaf53bd25105cf4d616aa89cae41d02/tenor.gif?itemid=6012433)
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2019/03/28/jussie-smollett-up-naacp-award-host-anthony-anderson-hopes-he-wins/3298234002/
I hope he does win. And soon thereafter gets arrested/charged/convicted on federal terrorism charges. (I don't have a lot of respect for the NAACP and would like to see them embarrass themselves. I used to respect them; not sure when that changed)
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Who would investigate the prosecutor; see if she took a bribe? (if anybody actually cares about corruption in Chicago) The FBI? The state police? Illinois Bureau of Investigation?
1. Normally it's the Feds that nail the locals on bribery charges and the like.
2. The State Police generally stick to issuing speeding tickets and harassing firearm owners. (They take their sweet ass time to issue FOID cards and LTC cards).
3. Their is no such thing as "Illinois Bureau of Investigation". It would either be the State Police or the State's Attorney (either the County one or the Attorney General's Office).
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I hope he does win. And soon thereafter gets arrested/charged/convicted on federal terrorism charges. (I don't have a lot of respect for the NAACP and would like to see them embarrass themselves. I used to respect them; not sure when that changed)
Same here. I'm not sure when I lost respect for the NAACP, but I suspect this was a part of it.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p04y6n5r.jpg)
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Ole boy was a no-show, and he didn't get the award. Then Chris Rock weighed in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACaD6aheUPk
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I'm here, I'm just running late, because I was MUGGED, by 2 midget Japs, wearing NRA caps, yeah, that's the ticket!
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Same here. I'm not sure when I lost respect for the NAACP, but I suspect this was a part of it.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p04y6n5r.jpg)
She looked familiar, had to dig around to refresh my memory:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal
Completely apart from accusations of using fraudulent information at the university, etc, there was this:
Dolezal was charged by the State of Washington with felony theft by welfare fraud and second degree perjury in May 2018.[21][22] Prosecutors claim that she lied about her assets and was financially secure (with tens of thousands of dollars in donations and other revenue) at the time she was receiving welfare and claiming to be indigent.
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According to the Spokane County prosecutors office, Dolezal could receive a sentence of up to 15 years in prison if found guilty and could be ordered to pay full monetary restitution for the assistance she received.[21][22][dead link][142][143] Dolezal has pleaded not guilty to the charges.[144]
Innocent until proven guilty, of course.
Dolezal changed her name to Nkechi Diallo in 2016.
Terry, 230RN
Add: Judge growing impatient:
https://www.khq.com/news/judge-grows-impatient-sets-new-trial-date-in-rachel-dolezal/article_1f034218-1060-11e9-9a9d-6b90ce178ef6.html
Trial set for 04 Mar 19:
https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/trial-for-nkechi-diallo-also-known-as-rachel-dolezal-set-for-march-4/293-eb04057d-f146-411c-9fbc-e959cddbedf3
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Trial set for 04 Mar 19:
https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/trial-for-nkechi-diallo-also-known-as-rachel-dolezal-set-for-march-4/293-eb04057d-f146-411c-9fbc-e959cddbedf3
Hey, that's my home town girl. I think the latest in the ongoing fraud saga is she is in negotiations to plead. They should just count here as black, the demographics (2% Black) are in desperate need of each and every black person in Spokane.
bob
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But wait, there's more
BREAKING:
Brothers Ola and Abel Osundairo filed a federal defamation lawsuit against Jussie Smollett’s legal team.
Mark Geragos, his law firm, and Tina Glandian listed as defendants . @cbschicago pic.twitter.com/s3d8ispRa1
— Charlie De Mar (@CharlieDeMar) April 23, 2019
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/04/23/bam-ola-and-abel-osundairo-have-filed-a-federal-defamation-lawsuit-against-smolletts-legal-team/
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It's turning into a mud slinging contest.
Previous content referred to in the next few posts redacted.
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230RN to be accused of racism in 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . . .
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230RN to be accused of racism in 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . . .
Does he have a dog?
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A. That's doag or dawg to you.
B. I was thinking the other way, slinging mud cartoons, and that cartoon came up. Agreed. Looks racist after someone pointed it out.
C. Normally my sense of honor requires that I leave stuff in my posts when I screw up and don't edit my follies and foibles if nobody's quoted it or commented. Not in this case. Removing it.
D. Sorry. =(
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(https://i.imgur.com/FsIfwEr.gif?noredirect)
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^ Buttopotamus.
I hate zoos, but "had to" take family to the one down in Colorado Springs. Family packed up close to the elephant cages. With my experience from horses I recognized the spread back legs, shift weight a little from side to side, and pee behavior pattern. One lady elephant backed up to the bars and did this.
Grabbed kids and Wife1 and I hauled ass away from the front row, and got far enough back when the elephant let go with this fire-hose of a stream, and back-splashed all the people who were standing close.
Accompanying screams and "eewwwwws !"
You can't tell me animals can't think. They just don't use words and you can't tell when they're laughing.
Terry, 230RN
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Does he have a dog?
Tangential subject: is there a scale of racism vs. dog breeds? Is owning a Chihuahua less racist than owning a German Shepherd? Are Siberian Huskies evidence of Russian collusion?
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"Defendant contemplates filing an action against the City of Chicago and/or its agents for their conduct underlying the arrest and their conduct thereafter including constitutional claims and state law claims. Defendant reserves the right to bring such claims at the appropriate time provided by law," Smollett's attorneys wrote.
Jussie Smollett Is Baaaack. And He's Contemplating Suing The City Of Chicago
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/08/18/jussie-smollett-is-baaaack-and-hes-contemplating-suing-the-city-of-chicago-n2551853