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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on March 07, 2019, 05:07:05 PM
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A Federal judge (CA of course) ruled against including a citizenship question on the 2020 census. His rational:
"Including the citizenship question on the 2020 Census is fundamentally counterproductive to the goal of obtaining accurate citizenship data about the public.”
WTF?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/07/judge-rules-that-census-citizenship-question-is-counterproductive-to-obtaining-accurate-citizenship-data/
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In closing arguments Friday in the federal bench trial over the citizenship question, attorneys for the State of California and six California cities said adding the question would jeopardize the census’ accuracy, as both legal and undocumented immigrants would be less likely to participate.
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“The citizenship question will provide a differential undercount of Latinos and non-citizens, and by extension, Californians,” said Deputy Attorney General Matthew Wise. “California’s budget line item for census outreach swelled from a pre-citizenship question allocation of $43.3 million to a final allocation of $90.3 million.”
He said undercounting California’s large Latino population would ultimately lead California to lose both federal funding and a seat in Congress.
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A Federal judge (CA of course) ruled against including a citizenship question on the 2020 census. His rational:
"rationale," please
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Has the SCOTUS agreed to hear a case regarding the census yet?
On the other hand, if the question is included, are we assuming that people who are here illegally would be unwilling to lie about their citizenship status?
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"rationale," please
(https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/8542713_f520.jpg)
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Rope, tree, "judge".
Some assembly required.
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^^^^and as Tallpine said, gravity is free.
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^^^^and as Tallpine said, gravity is free.
A wise man.
Due process is dead, this is more judicial tyranny.
But, as Ms Wolfe has said, it's too soon to start shooting the bastards.
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Judges are supposed to apply & interpret laws - exactly which Federal law explicitly prohibits citizenship questions on the census forms?
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I don't think putting a citizenship question on the census is a good idea. I worked for the census in 2010 when I was between jobs. Considering the community where I canvassed I undoubtedly spoke to illegal aliens, or at least households where illegals were living, even if the person at the door was not. On more than one occasion, I made it a point to mention that there were no questions about citizenship status on the census. As a low paid census taker I was not about to jeopardize my safety. Census takers are not ICE. And many illegals may very well be desperate enough to do something stupid.
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I don't think putting a citizenship question on the census is a good idea. I worked for the census in 2010 when I was between jobs. Considering the community where I canvassed I undoubtedly spoke to illegal aliens, or at least households where illegals were living, even if the person at the door was not. On more than one occasion, I made it a point to mention that there were no questions about citizenship status on the census. As a low paid census taker I was not about to jeopardize my safety. Census takers are not ICE. And many illegals may very well be desperate enough to do something stupid.
To me, the fact that a census taker might have to worry about violence from illegals because of a question on the census is proof positive that we have a massive problem with illegal aliens, and the government needs to start deporting a lot of people very rapidly. The fact that the presence of the question proves the existence of a problem is not, IMHO, an indication that the question is not a good idea.
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I don't think putting a citizenship question on the census is a good idea. I worked for the census in 2010 when I was between jobs. Considering the community where I canvassed I undoubtedly spoke to illegal aliens, or at least households where illegals were living, even if the person at the door was not. On more than one occasion, I made it a point to mention that there were no questions about citizenship status on the census. As a low paid census taker I was not about to jeopardize my safety. Census takers are not ICE. And many illegals may very well be desperate enough to do something stupid.
I don't have a problem with illegals not getting counted on the census. Cities and states that give sanctuary should not be rewarded with more Congressional representatives and electoral college votes.
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I worked on the 2000 census. I have no problem asking about citizenship.
The only thing close to a problem I had was approaching a house with a barking dog. The owner came around from the backyard and said I was lucky his dog hadn't torn me apart. ??? The dog was loud .... but he never charged or acted aggressive.
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"Including the citizenship question on the 2020 Census is fundamentally counterproductive to the goal of obtaining accurate citizenship data about the public.”
WTF?
Yeah, that.
Brad
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I don't think putting a citizenship question on the census is a good idea. I worked for the census in 2010 when I was between jobs. Considering the community where I canvassed I undoubtedly spoke to illegal aliens, or at least households where illegals were living, even if the person at the door was not. On more than one occasion, I made it a point to mention that there were no questions about citizenship status on the census. As a low paid census taker I was not about to jeopardize my safety. Census takers are not ICE. And many illegals may very well be desperate enough to do something stupid.
Then we are submitting to an illegal population and allowing them representation in our government.
Is there anything to stop them from lying?