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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: makattak on April 18, 2019, 01:38:46 PM
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So the Galaxy Fold is here!!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/bendgate-2-0-samsungs-2000-foldable-phone-is-already-breaking/
And it's already showing problems.
Apart from the issues of a first generation new tech (I will not ever own this version and likely several succeeding iterations), I have another problem.
Samsung apparently used the folding technology to double the size of the viewing area.
That's nice, but I'd like a smartphone that was half the size of my current one. To have half the space of my pocket taken up instead of all of it.
I don't need a tablet. Give me a flip phone back.
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Today's very low signal level devices do not like bending conductors or mere pressure contacts.
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I'm already seeing reports that after folding and opening a few times, the screens either develop fold lines, or just quit working entirely.
Not interested.
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Flip phones are still available. You just need to search a bit normally, they like to hide them.
What network are you on?
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Flip phones are still available. You just need to search a bit normally, they like to hide them.
What network are you on?
The next time I get a new phone, I might switch back over to a flip phone. The smart phone I have now is bigger than I'd like and I've never liked using smart phones as actual phones. =| There is something to be said for tactile buttons on stuff like phones and cars. Touch screens can be a PITA.
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If it wasn’t for texts I would go back to a flip phone.
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If you want to be crumogendly you can get a Casio boulder fliphone for $40 on eBay
I personally love my IPhone 8 Plus. I am issued a standard 7 for work and I hate how small it is
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Flip phones are still available. You just need to search a bit normally, they like to hide them.
What network are you on?
Yes, I can get a non-smart phone. I'm meaning a flip-phone with smartphone capability.
(How else will I waste time on APS when I'm out in the world!?)
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As I've mentioned before, in many ways I'd love to return to a simple flip phone and avoid the intrusiveness of the googles and whatnot. However as my last couple of weeks of learning Idaho have shown, a smart phone makes life SO much easier. I'm pretty sure I've saved at least a couple of days of time and a couple of hundred miles of driving around over the last couple of weeks just by saying "Hey Google".
I can't think of another way to be nearly as efficient without carrying a laptop with a 4G internet connection around with me, or else waiting for society to go back to phone books and paper maps (both of which I would then need to carry in the car with me, and they're a little bulkier than my S9).
Edit: S9, not S7. I don't even know what's in my pocket.
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As I've mentioned before, in many ways I'd love to return to a simple flip phone and avoid the intrusiveness of the googles and whatnot. However as my last couple of weeks of learning Idaho have shown, a smart phone makes life SO much easier. I'm pretty sure I've saved at least a couple of days of time and a couple of hundred miles of driving around over the last couple of weeks just by saying "Hey Google".
I can't think of another way to be nearly as efficient without carrying a laptop with a 4G internet connection around with me, or else waiting for society to go back to phone books and paper maps (both of which I would then need to carry in the car with me, and they're a little bulkier than my S7).
I agree with this, except for the flip-phone part. I never derived any particular benefit from that form factor, aside from the fact that it's its own screen protector.
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I'm already seeing reports that after folding and opening a few times, the screens either develop fold lines, or just quit working entirely.
Not interested.
You think they would've caught that in testing...
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Miss my old Motorola flip phone. After putting an extra capacity battery into it that I got off Amazon for 10 bucks I could go two weeks at a time before worrying about recharging. With my current Galaxy S7 I feel like I'm constantly watching the battery meter.
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As I've mentioned before, in many ways I'd love to return to a simple flip phone and avoid the intrusiveness of the googles and whatnot. However as my last couple of weeks of learning Idaho have shown, a smart phone makes life SO much easier. I'm pretty sure I've saved at least a couple of days of time and a couple of hundred miles of driving around over the last couple of weeks just by saying "Hey Google".
I can't think of another way to be nearly as efficient without carrying a laptop with a 4G internet connection around with me, or else waiting for society to go back to phone books and paper maps (both of which I would then need to carry in the car with me, and they're a little bulkier than my S7).
Yeah, but I can do that with my tablet, since it's on the same network as my phone. *shrug*
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Yeah, but I can do that with my tablet, since it's on the same network as my phone. *shrug*
But then you're carrying two things around with you, and the tablet is way bigger than the phone.
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But then you're carrying two things around with you, and the tablet is way bigger than the phone.
<--- Girl. Purse. =D
But seriously, I generally just carry keys and wallet into stores and whatnot. Most the time I leave the phone in the car and, if I have it physically on my person, it's just to be a phone. I'm never using the non phone functions on it when I'm not either in my car or some place I'm carrying my purse anyway.
I can see how carrying more could be a problem for someone without a bag, but, in all honesty, how much are you using the smart phone features when you'd have to carry your tablet around somewhere?
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Agree with the crowd here...miss the size of my old phones, but don't want to give up the functions of my smart phone. On a recent drive across Ohio using the Maps app, I was given warning of upcoming speed traps. It was pretty accurate, too. I used to carry a spare mag in the back pocket when I wear jeans. With my current phone, a Samsung Galaxy S9+, that's the only place I can carry my phone, unless I use a holster on my belt. Which, by the way, is only a bit more comfortable than appendix carrying my SIG handguns.
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Agree with the crowd here...miss the size of my old phones, but don't want to give up the functions of my smart phone. On a recent drive across Ohio using the Maps app, I was given warning of upcoming speed traps. It was pretty accurate, too. I used to carry a spare mag in the back pocket when I wear jeans. With my current phone, a Samsung Galaxy S9+, that's the only place I can carry my phone, unless I use a holster on my belt. Which, by the way, is only a bit more comfortable than appendix carrying my SIG handguns.
If you're ever shopping for new trousers, you might keep an eye out for cargo pants with a phone pocket, or "tech pocket." Some of those phone pockets are pretty roomy. Some carpenter pants will also have a leg pocket large enough.
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If you're ever shopping for new trousers, you might keep an eye out for cargo pants with a phone pocket, or "tech pocket." Some of those phone pockets are pretty roomy. Some carpenter pants will also have a leg pocket large enough.
Might be tough with my "phone". It has a diagonal just under 12"
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The cell tablet I ordered turned out to be a phone, and given that the cellphone company was happy to assign it a number and charge me for it, I dropped my other phone, only needing one device.
I either use speakerphone or a bluetooth headset with it.
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If it wasn’t for texts I would go back to a flip phone.
I don't do texts or want texts - that's what email is for. I use my cell phone as a PHONE - you know, to actually TALK to people I want to talk to. :old:
It's an LG flip-phone (I call it a "dumb phone" to distinguish it from "smart phones") with Tracfone service that costs me around $6 a month. I've used it as a phone in a number of states - Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Ohio, Kentucky, California, Iowa, Illinois, Missouri, Oklahoma . . . it worked fine as a phone in all of them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtqtyyGZvXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7WpRzSnNAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ROgEEBSEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjD4SNG6jE8
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...in all honesty, how much are you using the smart phone features when you'd have to carry your tablet around somewhere?
Quite a lot, or it wouldn't be worth paying for data.
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<--- Girl. Purse. =D
Somehow I knew that would be your response. :laugh:
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On a slight tangent, it could be we won't have to have this debate in the near future. I can't find the original article I read that goes into more detail, but this Cnet article is a good synopsis:
https://www.cnet.com/news/hearing-aids-now-theyre-internet-ai-and-health-devices-starkey-oticon-harman-bose/
"Hearing aids" for the non-hearing impaired are potentially becoming a thing. Much like "Jarvis" in The Avengers, the earpiece will be your connection to the Internet and Smart Things instead of your phone.
I can see that. Ever since I got my fitness watch, I check my phone less because text messages, email subjects, calendar events, etc. all pop up on the watch, so I just glance at that and decide if I need to use my phone or not. Having an earpiece that provides audio of these things could be even more convenient.
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FIFY
"Hearing aids" for the non-hearing impaired are... ...even more convenient Distracting.
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Somehow I knew that would be your response. :laugh:
You could always man purse it. =D My new purse is very unisex.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B071YVZGQS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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For you flip phone aficionados the new RAZR is supposed to drop this summer, and is what you describe as wanting. Basically a smart phone that folds in half for storage.
https://www.t3.com/feature/motorola-razr-release-date-price-specs
Expect flagship smart phone pricing though.
For me, my GS9 is about perfect. Fits in my front pocket, big enough to see most of the stuff I want, and battery lasts long enough that I never look at the charge indicator. I don't understand folks that want to return to mobile devices being a phone and crappy telex machine. I have pretty much the whole of human knowledge in my pocket. Why would I give that up?
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FIFY :old:
Speaking as someone who has been wearing bilateral 'in-the-canal' hearing aids for decades, be careful what you wish for. They itch, they sweat and they start to hurt after several hours of being worn.
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You could always man purse it. =D My new purse is very unisex.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B071YVZGQS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's not a purse! It's a European carryall!
https://youtu.be/YgQDAKsOh-M
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Speaking as someone who has been wearing bilateral 'in-the-canal' hearing aids for decades, be careful what you wish for. They itch, they sweat and they start to hurt after several hours of being worn.
SWMBO always uses a q-tip at the end of the day to scratch her ear canals after wearing her hearing aids all day.
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I can see that. Ever since I got my fitness watch, I check my phone less because text messages, email subjects, calendar events, etc. all pop up on the watch, so I just glance at that and decide if I need to use my phone or not. Having an earpiece that provides audio of these things could be even more convenient.
But the radio waves will rot your brain, or cause brain cancer, or something.
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You could always man purse it.
I thought the word for that was "murse."
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I thought the word for that was "murse."
That's a Male Nurse.
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But the radio waves will rot your brain, or cause brain cancer, or something.
I actually do wonder about that. I still get a little paranoid sitting next to the wireless router in my office even knowing the exponential drop in energy with each foot I'm away from it. I'd be interested in studies on wireless Internet devices inserted in the ear.
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Miss my old Motorola flip phone. After putting an extra capacity battery into it that I got off Amazon for 10 bucks I could go two weeks at a time before worrying about recharging. With my current Galaxy S7 I feel like I'm constantly watching the battery meter.
That's what I have, WX416. Could fit a pack of cigs and the phone in a shirt pocket back when I smoked. I charge it every Sunday whether it needs it or not but I don't use it that much anyway.
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Ok, yer making me do this ya know...
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I've since added an changeable bit MAC Tools screwdriver and an 8" Crescent Wrench to the bag, changed to a Glock 19, added a pill bottle full of quarters and a pill bottle full of Dimes, Nickles and Pennies.
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You could always man purse it. =D My new purse is very unisex.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B071YVZGQS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Honestly, I would consider using that. Especially if it did NOT have that "Komal's passion leather" tag on it.
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That's a Male Nurse.
Only if people switch from saying "woman doctor" to "female doctor." Until then, it only makes sense to say "man nurse."
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Only if people switch from saying "woman doctor" to "female doctor." Until then, it only makes sense to say "man nurse."
Ok fine. Man nurse still shortens to murse.
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BTW: They are called "Messenger Bags"
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Honestly, I would consider using that. Especially if it did NOT have that "Komal's passion leather" tag on it.
The only tag is on the inside. It's actually a really nice bag. I couldn't believe it for the price. The leather is beautiful and broke in really nice.
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My bag is by "Claire Chase" and looks better the more I use it. It has also held up REAL well. Only brand marks are on the zipper Pulls.
https://clairechase.com/product/405/
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(obviously bought when we were both working in better days!) :old:
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I still have my older leather Man-bag that was made for Concealed Carry and it has some loose threads on it but is still VERY serviceable!
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My bag is by "Claire Chase" and looks better the more I use it. It has also held up REAL well. Only brand marks are on the zipper Pulls.
https://clairechase.com/product/405/
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Claire could be a guy's name, if that's what you're getting at. Claire Chennault of the Flying Tigers, e.g.
Terry
REF:
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/107526/major-general-claire-lee-chennault/
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Quote from: Hawkmoon on April 20, 2019, 10:32:33 AM
But the radio waves will rot your brain, or cause brain cancer, or something.
I actually do wonder about that. I still get a little paranoid sitting next to the wireless router in my office even knowing the exponential drop in energy with each foot I'm away from it. I'd be interested in studies on wireless Internet devices inserted in the ear.
But aren't those earpieces just receivers, and don't emanate any waves? The router, on the other hand, does (or can do) two-way communications.
I sometimes have to grin when someone talks about the signal strength being too low or the frequency being too high to cause damage as if there were some distinct numerical cutoff for any biological effects, like "327.4 mega Herz" or "82.27 picowatts per square cm."
"Too high" a frequency to do any damage... until you get to photons at cosmic ray frquency/energy levels. Exempli gratia.
But that always starts an argument, which usually revolves around the word "measurable."
Terry
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But aren't those just receivers, and don't emanate any waves? The router, on the other hand, does (or can do) two-way communications.
Terry
I don't know much about them, but my understanding is that they are transceivers. Since you can do the "Hey Google" thing with them, they've got to call out to something to transmit the request.
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Claire could be a guy's name, if that's what you're getting at. Claire Chennault of the Flying Tigers, e.g.
Terry
REF:
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/107526/major-general-claire-lee-chennault/
Nothing of the sort. I was simply pointing out what I have found to be a quality bag that my wife bought for me back in better times. It comes from their "Man Bag" line and I have found it to be perfect for MY needs as someone who, in his wheelchair, can't effectively access his waist to draw and, when ya are tapered like an Ice Cream Cone, gravity is not your friend!
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Ben:
Wait a minute. You mean from your earpieces? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you were talking about.
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HeroHog: Oh, OK. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you were talking about.
I use one of those black bags, too, but smaller, for my checkbook and camera and a bunch of other sundries. I usually leave it in the car. My wallet is on a chain to my belt and my gun is in my pocket in warm weather.
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BEN:
Wait a minute. You mean from your earpieces? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you were talking about.
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Yes. The earpieces are basically a miniature smartphone (and supposedly, eventually, more - like medical monitoring devices) that go in your ears, so they have to transmit requests to the interwebz, send your medical data and vitals to whatever that database is, etc.
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You are talking Blue Tooth ear bud Transceivers, not wired ear buds, I believe, right? While they ARE Transceivers, they are NOT "miniature cell phones." What they are are Blue Tooth Transceivers and nothing more. The PHONE it is linked to does all the "heavy lifting." The wireless Ear Buds just use very low power BT to send digital sound and button presses to the phone.
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I don't have any desire to walk around with a bluetooth thingie stuck in my ear, like a refugee from the borg. Low power is still power -- I don't want a transceiver in such close proximity to the few functional grey cells I have left. I try not to use my cell phone next to my ear, either. When at home, I always use it on speaker phone and set the phone a few feet away from me. I try to limit my usage as much as possible when I'm out of the house.
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I don't have any desire to walk around with a bluetooth thingie stuck in my ear, like a refugee from the borg. Low power is still power -- I don't want a transceiver in such close proximity to the few functional grey cells I have left. I try not to use my cell phone next to my ear, either. When at home, I always use it on speaker phone and set the phone a few feet away from me. I try to limit my usage as much as possible when I'm out of the house.
Yeah, ear thingies are so 1960s
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I sometimes have to grin when someone talks about the signal strength being too low or the frequency being too high to cause damage as if there were some distinct numerical cutoff for any biological effects, like "327.4 mega Herz" or "82.27 picowatts per square cm."
But there are cutoff points? Ionizing vs non-Ionizing radiation. You don't want high frequency, those are the higher energy photons that can actually ionize things and therefore mess up DNA.
However, 2.4 and 5 GHz are both non-ionizing, so the most they do is warm stuff up. They are on the wrong side of the optical band, they can't ionize anything.
You're getting into the Petahertz, x-rays, about six orders of magnitude higher frequency, before you get direct damage.
Without direct damage, you're basically looking at having to cook things to cause damage, which is where total energy levels come in. Until you start pushing kilowatts or more, this type of damage is unlikely unless you can somehow focus it as good as a laser.
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You are talking Blue Tooth ear bud Transceivers, not wired ear buds, I believe, right? While they ARE Transceivers, they are NOT "miniature cell phones." What they are are Blue Tooth Transceivers and nothing more. The PHONE it is linked to does all the "heavy lifting." The wireless Ear Buds just use very low power BT to send digital sound and button presses to the phone.
My understanding from the first article I read was that these would in effect be "miniature smart phones +". Eventually no need to have a smart phone or other device in Bluetooth range, they'll do everything, possibly via 5G or whatever is out at the time. I would assume you could get visuals via some form of Google glasses that actually work.
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But there are cutoff points? Ionizing vs non-Ionizing radiation. You don't want high frequency, those are the higher energy photons that can actually ionize things and therefore mess up DNA.
However, 2.4 and 5 GHz are both non-ionizing, so the most they do is warm stuff up. They are on the wrong side of the optical band, they can't ionize anything.
You're getting into the Petahertz, x-rays, about six orders of magnitude higher frequency, before you get direct damage.
Without direct damage, you're basically looking at having to cook things to cause damage, which is where total energy levels come in. Until you start pushing kilowatts or more, this type of damage is unlikely unless you can somehow focus it as good as a laser.
Yeah I struck that portion of that post.
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I need to get one of these. =D
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/samsung-galaxy-fold-launch-delayed.html
Not ready for prime time ...
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I have a set of Samsung's second gen earbuds
First gen was plagued fairly badly with low battery life. They took out the S Health stuff (seriously, why does EVERYTHING have to have health tracking stuff in it?), and battery life got better. I use them during workout, plasma donation, or any other time I want to tune the world out
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I have a set of Samsung's second gen earbuds
First gen was plagued fairly badly with low battery life. They took out the S Health stuff (seriously, why does EVERYTHING have to have health tracking stuff in it?), and battery life got better. I use them during workout, plasma donation, or any other time I want to tune the world out
Link? Always looking for good earbuds. Well, cheap ones, anyway.
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Probably won't be much longer to where the screen can be rolled up. I imagine at some point we can have tablet sized screens when we need it at the size of a flip phone. All the electronics can be stored together in a small box, and the screen pulls out to the desired length, think like a film canister roll or something.
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i cannot enjoy APS unless i am on a good oldfashioned computer/laptop.
but I do like the smartphone, I miss the good old days of relative anonymity.
my writing style is enjoyable and impressive, but now everyone knows I'm an old loser with no money.
in the good old days, I was a genius!
blasted gawsh darn smartphones.