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Title: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: MechAg94 on June 07, 2019, 10:06:38 AM
https://abc13.com/amp/home/residents-see-purple-water-after-pump-malfunction/5329468/?__twitter_impression=true
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Hundreds of people in Coal Grove, Ohio turned on their faucets Monday to see something unexpected - purple water.
I think purple water would bug me quite a bit.  I would probably be leaving the water on for a week.  


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"Once it's diluted out, it's not dangerous at all," Stephen Burchett, water treatment plant operator, said.

Burchett said the vibrant color was caused by a pump malfunction; it dumped too much sodium permanganate into the water.

(edit:  that title in all caps was bugging me)
Title: Re: RESIDENTS SEE PURPLE WATER AFTER PUMP MALFUNCTION
Post by: WLJ on June 07, 2019, 12:59:10 PM
3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible
Title: Re: RESIDENTS SEE PURPLE WATER AFTER PUMP MALFUNCTION
Post by: 230RN on June 07, 2019, 07:04:34 PM
3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible

Didn't realize Mn had a radioactive isotope, Mn53.
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 07, 2019, 10:29:10 PM
Potassium permanganate I have in abundance and use fairly regularly. I have no use for sodium permanganate.
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: 230RN on June 08, 2019, 02:32:03 AM
^ Now I'm curious.  What for?*  And what with K40, it ought to be slightly more radioactive.  (Not that it's a lot, but it would scare some people.  I remember telling someone that their salt substitute (KCl) was radioactive and they freaked out a bit.  I was just being a smartass and made the remark in passing.)

* Added later:  For steam generation as in the V-2 rocket?
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 08, 2019, 08:25:07 AM
Potassium permanganate is used as a photographic bleach/reducer. Bleaching is a step in toning photographic prints (sepia, selenium...)
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: WLJ on June 08, 2019, 09:15:59 AM
^ Now I'm curious.  What for?*  And what with K40, it ought to be slightly more radioactive.  (Not that it's a lot, but it would scare some people.  I remember telling someone that their salt substitute (KCl) was radioactive and they freaked out a bit.  I was just being a smartass and made the remark in passing.)

* Added later:  For steam generation as in the V-2 rocket?

Mine was a Chernobyl reference where one of the managers supposedly said that blowing off the problem because certain meters where showing 3.6 which just so happened to the max for that type.  He dismissed as malfunctioning all the other meters showing way way way higher,
  
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: T.O.M. on June 08, 2019, 12:41:46 PM
Potassium permanganate is a great fire started with glycerin.   Used is as a magic fire starter for my Cub Scouts back in the day.
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: 230RN on June 10, 2019, 04:29:20 AM
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Hadda look that one up.  Ought not about the same thing happen with alcohols and low carbohydrates?

Side note:  I was amused to find that kosher glycerin is available on the market.  Kinda curious about that, not being Jewish.  Glycerin is a food item ?  Not being a culinary person, either.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: freakazoid on June 12, 2019, 07:32:04 AM
^
Hadda look that one up.  Ought not about the same thing happen with alcohols and low carbohydrates?

Side note:  I was amused to find that kosher glycerin is available on the market.  Kinda curious about that, not being Jewish.  Glycerin is a food item ?  Not being a culinary person, either.

Terry, 230RN

Isn't glycerin taken as medication for something?
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 12, 2019, 07:41:46 AM
Isn't glycerin taken as medication for something?

I have a passing familiarity with glycerin suppositories.
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: 230RN on June 12, 2019, 07:45:19 AM
NITROglycerin, where the three OHs (see image) have been replaced by nitrates (NO3) is used for heart conditions since it is a vasodilator.

Glycerin, before making into nitroglycerin:

       (https://hccr4fh5fs2qtrl03m0szqpo-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gly4-1.jpg)

It's also a too-sensitive explosive.  When mixed with various inert powders it forms dynamite, which is less sensitive.  However, the fumes get to people who handle it routinely and since it is a vasodilator, it causes severe headaches.  Its inventor was subject to these headaches.

Pure un-nitrated glycerin(e) is used as a skin emollient, and I guess, according to RKL, a lubricant for defecation.

I was wondering about "kosher" un-nitrated glycerin, though.

Terry
Title: Re: Residents See Purple Water After Pump Malfunction
Post by: Triphammer on June 12, 2019, 11:06:11 AM
Glycerin is added to a wide variety of skin care, hair care & food products. If you wan ta kosher end product, all ingredients need to be kosher.