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Title: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 05, 2019, 08:50:04 AM
https://www.projectveritas.com/

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EInG7N5XsAIPFx_.jpg)

So James O'Keefe started tweeting late yesterday that they will be releasing some sort of video/story on Jeffrey Epstein.  Not sure what it will be, but it sounds interesting.  
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 05, 2019, 08:53:06 AM
On a more general note, I think people are trying to push "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself" as a new meme.  I have seen a number of people on twitter mention it in one way or another. 


https://babylonbee.com/news/hidden-bible-code-reveals-epstein-didnt-kill-himself
Bible Scholars Now Believe Writing On The Wall Actually Said 'Epstein Didn't Kill Himself'

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"It seems the hand writing on the wall actually spelled out very clearly for King Belshazzar that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself but was murdered to protect the political elites," said Dr. Fred Poe of Dallas Theological Seminary. "This is the interpretation better supported by the text of the transcription 'mene, mene, tekel, parsin."

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 05, 2019, 08:54:21 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/fringe-conspiracy-theorist-believes-epstein-committed-suicide
Fringe Conspiracy Theorist Believes Epstein Just Killed Himself

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Peters recently published his latest YouTube video, titled "WHAT THE DEEP STATE DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW: EPSTEIN ACTUALLY DID JUST COMMIT SUICIDE."

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His video was immediately demonetized and scrubbed from the internet, presumably by deep state operatives who want to cover up the truth.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Pb on November 05, 2019, 09:05:09 AM
Please keep us informed.  I don't use twitter.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 05, 2019, 09:23:14 AM
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1191716801178034180

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lfwkTsJGYA&feature=youtu.be

I don't know if this is it or not.  This basically is saying ABC had information Epstein and a handful of his customers and ABC shut it down.  The youtube video is the better link right now.  We will see if it stays up.

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BREAKING: @abcnews anchor @arobach caught on 'hot mic' in August disgustedly exposing networks decision to strategically spike bombshell investigation into Jefferey Esptein over THREE YEARS AGO.  

Says what she had was "unbelievable"
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ron on November 05, 2019, 09:33:02 AM
Project Veritas never dumps info all at once.

There most likely will be one or two more drops this week, if the past pattern holds.

It's a calculated pattern to keep the gatekeepers from burying the story or coming up with an alternative narrative right away.
 
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 05, 2019, 02:48:15 PM
https://apnews.com/d86bb556a04144239b54f66018722db2
ABC says interview with Epstein accuser wasn’t ready to air

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ABC said Tuesday that the interview didn’t meet its standards because it lacked sufficient corroborating evidence. Robach said she was “caught in a private moment of frustration.”

I saw it pointed out that ABC ran very thinly sourced reports about Brett Kavanaugh, but apparently this information did not meet their "standards". 
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: cordex on November 05, 2019, 02:53:16 PM
Project Veritas never dumps info all at once. 
One of the title card graphics indicated this was Part I.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 05, 2019, 03:17:54 PM
https://apnews.com/d86bb556a04144239b54f66018722db2
ABC says interview with Epstein accuser wasn’t ready to air

... says the network that tried to pass off Kentucky as Syria.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: dogmush on November 06, 2019, 04:17:39 AM
https://apnews.com/d86bb556a04144239b54f66018722db2
ABC says interview with Epstein accuser wasn’t ready to air

I saw it pointed out that ABC ran very thinly sourced reports about Brett Kavanaugh, but apparently this information did not meet their "standards". 

#Believewomen
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ron on November 06, 2019, 06:52:06 AM
1- Epstein is dead, he killed himself.

2- Epstein is dead, somebody killed him.

3- Epstein is alive, the "good guys" stashed him away.

4- Epstein is alive, the "bad guys" stashed him away.

Currently I have no opinion on the matter that I feel strongly about.

I don't really trust any news sources any longer. It's all persuasion and propaganda.

Even the "good guys" can be decieved and spread false intel.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: K Frame on November 06, 2019, 07:47:01 AM
All I know is that some of the facebook memes are absolutely hysterical.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Pb on November 06, 2019, 09:25:35 AM
1- Epstein is dead, he killed himself.

2- Epstein is dead, somebody killed him.

3- Epstein is alive, the "good guys" stashed him away.

4- Epstein is alive, the "bad guys" stashed him away.


5- Epstein is dead, he was threatened into killing himself
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: lee n. field on November 06, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
1- Epstein is dead, he killed himself.

2- Epstein is dead, somebody killed him.

3- Epstein is alive, the "good guys" stashed him away.

4- Epstein is alive, the "bad guys" stashed him away.

Currently I have no opinion on the matter that I feel strongly about.

I don't really trust any news sources any longer. It's all persuasion and propaganda.

Even the "good guys" can be decieved and spread false intel.

I'm wondering how much to trust history, seeing who's telling it.

Was Nixon really that much of an awful person, because it's MSM that spins the story?  Joe McCarthy?
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ron on November 06, 2019, 09:53:37 AM
I'm wondering how much to trust history, seeing who's telling it.

Was Nixon really that much of an awful person, because it's MSM that spins the story?  Joe McCarthy?

Yea, the best we can do is weigh every "story" as best we can remaining open to the idea that we may be wrong or deceived.

Assuming the official narrative is incomplete or inverted is a good starting heuristic  =D
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: makattak on November 06, 2019, 10:19:19 AM
I'm wondering how much to trust history, seeing who's telling it.

Was Nixon really that much of an awful person, because it's MSM that spins the story?  Joe McCarthy?

Nixon was most certainly an awful person. However, he was either less so or equally as awful as most people who become president.

The crimes he covered up (I doubt he planned them himself) PALE in comparison to the election crimes openly admitted to today committed by his two previous predecessors in office.


Yet, he was a "paranoid" because he thought people were out to get him.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ron on November 06, 2019, 11:39:00 AM
Is rejecting the mainstream narrative about history and current events the same thing as believing in conspiracy theories  ???

Nixon is as bad as Hitler to most people, right and left, I think Obama was magnitudes worse.

Nixon ended the Vietnam war but is known as one of our worst presidents.

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: K Frame on November 06, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Well thank God we had Jimmy Carter to reunite the country and get the economy working again for all Americans!

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 06, 2019, 04:07:42 PM
I'm wondering how much to trust history, seeing who's telling it.

Was Nixon really that much of an awful person, because it's MSM that spins the story?  Joe McCarthy?
My example would be Roman History.  Listening to the History of Rome podcast, he often commented on what the original references said and what was most likely true because of known biases of the author. 
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 06, 2019, 05:18:15 PM
Is rejecting the mainstream narrative about history and current events the same thing as believing in conspiracy theories  ???


It depends on what you mean by "mainstream." There's a persistent belief that American schools teach a simplistic, jingo-ist, America/whites/Christians-are-wonderful version of history. In reality, if there's a mainstream view of history taught in schools today, it would be closer to the cultural Marxist narrative of all oppression all the time, kill Whitey.

That doesn't answer your question, does it?
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: grampster on November 06, 2019, 07:49:10 PM

It depends on what you mean by "mainstream." There's a persistent belief that American schools teach taught a simplistic, jingo-ist, America/whites/Christians-are-wonderful version of history. In reality, if there's a mainstream view of history taught in schools today, it would be closer to the cultural Marxist narrative of all oppression all the time, kill Whitey.

That doesn't answer your question, does it?

Fixed one word for ya.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2019, 09:45:51 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/goodwyn_Epstein_Story_ABC_lr_11-6-1920191106064227.jpg)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2019, 10:03:26 AM
Burn the heretics!

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    5. Update: Two sources familiar with the matter tell me that CBS News has fired the staffer in question. This comes after ABC informed CBS that they had determined who accessed the footage of Amy Robach expressing her frustrations about the Epstein story. https://t.co/OHEoyahppY

    — Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) November 7, 2019

‘Holy s*it’: CBS has reportedly fired the ABC Epstein whistleblower
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/11/07/holy-sit-cbs-has-reportedly-fired-the-abc-epstein-whistleblower/
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: makattak on November 07, 2019, 10:13:43 AM
Burn the heretics!

‘Holy s*it’: CBS has reportedly fired the ABC Epstein whistleblower
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/11/07/holy-sit-cbs-has-reportedly-fired-the-abc-epstein-whistleblower/


They are completely consistent in this. Any whistleblower against Trump must be protected AT ALL COSTS.

Any whistleblower against a liberal must be destroyed AT ALL COSTS.

Look at how not a single word was spoken about how Obama hunted down and eliminated whistleblowers during his administration.

It's ALL about how it affects the Party. Nothing else.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2019, 10:14:47 AM
Is there any sort of liability concern for getting another company to fire an employee?  I thought that was one of those things companies were careful not to do.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2019, 10:27:12 AM
(https://oi1179.photobucket.com/albums/x383/WLJohnson1/Politics/EIkXTp1XUAEzJVm.jpg%20large_zpswkyky9rh.jpg)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: bedlamite on November 07, 2019, 10:51:45 AM
(https://www.msgo.com/attachments/d8fc5b42-f9d6-4bfa-b971-c35e4ddecd44-jpeg.175677/)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2019, 02:43:33 PM
James O'Keefe put this on Twitter yesterday.
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A word to the wise: do the right thing. The insider is still inside @ABC News.

#EpsteinCoverup


There was another tweet where he said they are getting more video from insiders.  It included pictures of him putting on body armor under his shirt.   =)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2019, 02:44:58 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/witches-hex-supreme-court-justice-brett-kavanaugh-exorcists/story?id=58585740&__twitter_impression=true
Witches to 'hex' Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh; exorcists pray in response

Another one of those articles that met ABC's journalistic standards. 
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2019, 02:47:39 PM
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1192402672349011969?s=09

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIxD6PYWoAAL51s.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 07, 2019, 04:27:49 PM
While I agree CBS  stands for Complete BullShit spiking any story is not a violation of any law. A severe lapse in morality and ethics maybe but not illegal.
However, an employee providing private corporate info about something that isn't illegal to outside entities is probably against company policy.
Technically, the employee that gave up the video isn't a whislteblower in any legally protected sense and may have actually broken the law in doing so.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
While I agree CBS  stands for Complete BullShit spiking any story is not a violation of any law. A severe lapse in morality and ethics maybe but not illegal.
However, an employee providing private corporate info about something that isn't illegal to outside entities is probably against company policy.
Technically, the employee that gave up the video isn't a whislteblower in any legally protected sense and may have actually broken the law in doing so.

I agree and if they still worked for ABC, that would be a straightforward issue provided they could show that employee did it.  However, the employee worked for a competitor.  ABC got CBS to fire the employee.  That seems like an entirely different issue. 
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 07, 2019, 09:23:17 PM
They might have an employment issue but I still don't see any "protected whistle-blower"  status.
While slimy, underhanded and despicable it isn't illegal for the Epstein story to have been spiked. It may have been illegal or at least civil actionable( non-disclosure agreement?) for the employee to have leaked the video to a third party.

Sometimes doing the right thing gets dirty.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2019, 09:57:17 PM
They might have an employment issue but I still don't see any "protected whistle-blower"  status.
While slimy, underhanded and despicable it isn't illegal for the Epstein story to have been spiked. It may have been illegal or at least civil actionable( non-disclosure agreement?) for the employee to have leaked the video to a third party.

Sometimes doing the right thing gets dirty.

James O'Keefe hasn't said that wasn't the leaker, but implied it may be someone else.  

I wasn't thinking about any protected status and any NDA would not apply to CBS (I would think).  My thought is two companies colluded to get this person fired.  I just think the person should go see a lawyer and find out.  I guess it depends on the laws there.  Also, CBS might been willing to fire the person just knowing they leaked info even though no one has said that person actually did that.  
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ron on November 08, 2019, 08:35:49 AM
Hopefully some patriot steps up and takes care of this whistle blower.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: cordex on November 08, 2019, 09:07:30 AM
Hopefully some patriot steps up and takes care of this whistle blower.
I bet this same sentence was recently uttered with slightly different inflection in a Clinton office.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: makattak on November 08, 2019, 09:08:22 AM
I bet this same sentence was recently uttered with slightly different inflection in a Clinton office.

I had the same thought. That statement can mean two WILDLY different things.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ben on November 08, 2019, 01:43:45 PM
While it might be acceptable to fire an employee who broke an NDA at another company, it might not necessarily be wise*. Looks like this one is gonna sing like a bird now:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/11/08/this-just-got-a-million-times-worse-yashar-alis-scoops-on-fired-cbs-news-employee-ashley-bianco-point-to-a-bona-fide-media-mega-scandal/


*Or it might be, if CBS wants to clandestinely give ABC a black eye.**


** Is "black eye" still acceptable, or is it racist now?
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: charby on November 08, 2019, 01:50:26 PM
While it might be acceptable to fire an employee who broke an NDA at another company, it might not necessarily be wise*. Looks like this one is gonna sing like a bird now:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/11/08/this-just-got-a-million-times-worse-yashar-alis-scoops-on-fired-cbs-news-employee-ashley-bianco-point-to-a-bona-fide-media-mega-scandal/


*Or it might be, if CBS wants to clandestinely give ABC a black eye.**


** Is "black eye" still acceptable, or is it racist now?

Here is a non twitchy link, you know, a fairly complete story.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664915/Megyn-Kelly-helps-fired-CBS-employee-woman-leaked-ABCs-Amy-Robach-hot-mic-revelation.html
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ben on November 08, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
Here is a non twitchy link, you know, a fairly complete story.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664915/Megyn-Kelly-helps-fired-CBS-employee-woman-leaked-ABCs-Amy-Robach-hot-mic-revelation.html


The Daily Mail.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: charby on November 08, 2019, 02:41:13 PM
The Daily Mail.  :rofl:

I read it first before posting, blind squirrel finds a nut every now and them.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: fifth_column on November 08, 2019, 04:01:12 PM
It looks like Project Veritas is denying the person who was fired was the person that leaked the tape:

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/11/08/abc-insider-why-i-alone-released-the-amy-robach-epstein-tape/ (https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/11/08/abc-insider-why-i-alone-released-the-amy-robach-epstein-tape/)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: grampster on November 08, 2019, 04:10:45 PM
"** Is "black eye" still acceptable, or is it racist now?"

Odd you mentioned that.  I was just wondering about the phrase "That's like the pot calling the kettle black."

And Epstein didn't kill himself.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 08, 2019, 04:15:23 PM
"** Is "black eye" still acceptable, or is it racist now?"

Odd you mentioned that.  I was just wondering about the phrase "That's like the pot calling the kettle black."

And Epstein didn't kill himself.

The pot calling the kettle black is not a racist statement.  It of course refers to one fire blackened cooking utensil calling another fire blackened cooking utensil out for being fire blackened.  Of course in today's society a white person even thinks the word black and they're probably gonna get a EEO complaint filed against them.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: makattak on November 08, 2019, 04:15:54 PM
"** Is "black eye" still acceptable, or is it racist now?"

Odd you mentioned that.  I was just wondering about the phrase "That's like the pot calling the kettle black."

And Epstein didn't kill himself.

My wife told me she wanted to get some colored paper.

I called her a racist. It's "Paper of Color" now that Epstein didn't kill himself.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: grampster on November 08, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
Me:  Alexa, who killed Epstein?

Alexa:  It was the Clin

Now I can't get my Alexa to work anymore.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 08, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
https://spectator.us/mysterious-career-amy-robach-jeffrey-epstein/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
The mysterious career of Amy Robach

This article looks at the recent history of Robach and what happened after the Epstein story was supposed to have been killed.  Looks like she got some plum jobs and didn't seem to have any issue covering the British royals. 

Not sure what it means other than I don't have a lot of sympathy for her.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 09, 2019, 08:36:36 PM
https://idahonews.com/news/nation-world/fresno-brewery-prints-epstein-didnt-kill-himself-on-the-bottom-of-cans

(https://idahonews.com/resources/media/0f09b60f-038d-4ad1-a98e-1d58dddd23fd-large16x9_tactops.jpg?1573186726657)

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 10, 2019, 10:31:09 AM
"Tatical Ops Brewery"? Are they Deta Force?
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 10, 2019, 11:29:28 AM
http://www.tacticalopsbrewing.com/about/
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ben on November 10, 2019, 11:38:37 AM
They missed an opportunity: "Tactical Hops".
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Fly320s on November 10, 2019, 01:41:56 PM
"Tatical Ops Brewery"? Are they Deta Force?

They are "soon to be another garage micro-brew company that went out of business" Force.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: brimic on November 11, 2019, 07:40:11 AM
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1192402672349011969?s=09

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIxD6PYWoAAL51s.jpg:large)


That's how you turn a suicide into a failed robbery. Ask Seth Rich.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 12, 2019, 12:39:02 AM
http://www.tacticalopsbrewing.com/about/

The news article spelled it "Tatical Ops."
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on November 12, 2019, 08:53:41 PM
googled Epstein meme and a good number that pop up are about Trump killing Epstein  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 12, 2019, 10:05:30 PM
Not sure if real:

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/75279306_10157838313541119_5099159197296099328_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQmP-DlCISJKrAg8Ho8LGAlifO2daJKZKtYk5488PiBpZfnYuFVfvOMGy249R9c2JuSHyESNvfYklRhplFQAvWuW&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=6e0db20f6d65dfa5fff1b71815d97a91&oe=5E575D52)

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 13, 2019, 06:13:44 PM
One of the more subtle Epstein memes:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/11/13/holy-cow-gop-rep-paul-gosars-impeachment-tweets-spell-trouble-for-someone-hillary-clinton-screenshots/
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: bedlamite on November 14, 2019, 07:39:04 PM
(https://ci.imagephile.com/images/photo/Carnac1.JPG)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 15, 2019, 03:04:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiIIiD3-xDc
Sh*t Military Members Don't Say

This becomes relevant 2:05 into the video.   =)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: brimic on November 17, 2019, 09:00:09 AM
Apparantly this was on Nicklelodian 14 years ago... and the CEO was on Epstein’s guest https://twitter.com/ihatematt/status/1195957361095122944?s=21
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ron on November 17, 2019, 12:21:19 PM
Apparantly this was on Nicklelodian 14 years ago... and the CEO was on Epstein’s guest https://twitter.com/ihatematt/status/1195957361095122944?s=21
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/16/prince-andrew-denies-sex-with-teenager-as-at-home-after-pizza-party

Speaking of pizza...

Welcome to clown world.

Prince Andrew couldn't actually be serious, he has to be trolling.

"I didn't have sex with that young woman, I was at a children's pizza party."
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 17, 2019, 12:30:29 PM
I still believe he killed himself.
However:
I believe he was encouraged to do so, perhaps coerced somehow, and that the guards conveniently going awol was the cover up.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: MechAg94 on November 17, 2019, 01:33:59 PM
I still believe he killed himself.
However:
I believe he was encouraged to do so, perhaps coerced somehow, and that the guards conveniently going awol was the cover up.

I don't know that it matters.  Everyone knows there was a cover up and whatever happened to him was "encouraged" by those involved.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ben on November 17, 2019, 01:45:36 PM

I believe he was encouraged to do so, perhaps coerced somehow, and that the guards conveniently going awol was the cover up.


Kinda where I am on it. We'll likely never know the truth. Too many influential people. Too much money.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: brimic on November 17, 2019, 02:30:19 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/16/prince-andrew-denies-sex-with-teenager-as-at-home-after-pizza-party

Speaking of pizza...

Welcome to clown world.

Prince Andrew couldn't actually be serious, he has to be trolling.

"I didn't have sex with that young woman, I was at a children's pizza party."

They know that they can lie to all of us and get away with it- it’s worked for them so far.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on November 17, 2019, 05:42:05 PM
Warning: May want to turn the volume down if there are sensitive ears around. In other words NSFW

Wait for it  :rofl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQ4j4V5_JE
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: bedlamite on November 18, 2019, 12:17:46 PM
(https://www.msgo.com/data/attachments/211/211867-1519e7374cfb1b5bacff4bd50535c1c1.jpg)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 19, 2019, 12:35:35 PM
Hmmm ...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-prison-guards-charged-with-falsifying-records

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: bedlamite on November 20, 2019, 12:50:48 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZMgToKm.jpg)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: TechMan on November 20, 2019, 12:34:24 PM
Found on a train overpass NI71 in Cincinnati.
(https://i.redd.it/4kogtlenhvz31.jpg)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on December 19, 2023, 11:02:00 AM
Judge Loretta Preska did not kill herself

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Judge Loretta Preska wrote 'unsealed in full' next to the names of 177 Does who are Epstein's friends, recruiters, victims and others whose names will be revealed when the material is released within the coming weeks.

The material is related to a defamation case brought by Prince Andrew's accuser Virginia Roberts in New York against Epstein's madam Ghislaine Maxwell.

 Over 170 of Jeffrey Epstein's high-profile associates will be NAMED in court documents set to be unsealed in the first days of 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12881277/Pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-associates-named-unsealed-court-document.html

Of course this is just more than likely could be just the names they want you see with plenty of the more juicy names scrubbed.

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Pb on December 19, 2023, 01:33:51 PM
Most of you probably will recall the story about a raid on Epstein's house that revealed dozens of dvds, labelled with the names of girls and famous people.  The DVDs were inexplicably not taken, and subsequently vanished.  Supposedly.

Those are the names I want to know.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 19, 2023, 01:36:41 PM
Judge Loretta Preska did not kill herself

 Over 170 of Jeffrey Epstein's high-profile associates will be NAMED in court documents set to be unsealed in the first days of 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12881277/Pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-associates-named-unsealed-court-document.html

Of course this is just more than likely could be just the names they want you see with plenty of the more juicy names scrubbed.

I'm surprised they're not waiting until 1 Nov. Or maybe that's when they reveal that Trump or other deplorables are also named.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: JTHunter on December 19, 2023, 11:14:20 PM
I'm surprised they're not waiting until 1 Nov. Or maybe that's when they reveal that Trump or other deplorables are also named.

It's far more likely that somebody like Pedo Joe will be on those lists.  >:D  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 20, 2023, 12:27:13 AM
It's far more likely that somebody like Pedo Joe will be on those lists.  >:D  [popcorn]

The question is, how easy is it to add political opponents to the list?
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on December 20, 2023, 04:53:48 PM
The question is, how easy is it to add political opponents to the list?

It's the prosecutor's word against the defendant's, ultimately.

Because of the nature of the material (child pornography) it cannot be legally distributed to multiple parties for independent analysis.  A defense attorney could obtain a copy, but would be in hot water if he distributed it for public use for independent corroboration.  The government can find an expert witness to say it is genuine, the defense can find an expert witness to say otherwise, and it comes down to who you want to believe.

But a public unbiased multifaceted analysis will never happen. 
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on December 22, 2023, 08:53:04 AM
Breaking: A Black Bar Visited Epstein Island Hundreds Of Times
https://babylonbee.com/news/breaking-a-black-bar-visited-epstein-island-hundreds-of-times

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 01, 2024, 09:23:47 AM
 [popcorn]

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    JUST IN: Bill Clinton’s name is expected to be released in the Epstein court documents in the new year.

    S*xual abuse survivor Virginia Giuffre claims she met Clinton on Epstein's private island which was refuted by Ghislaine Maxwell.

    According to flight logs from Epstein’s pilot, Bill Clinton was a frequent flyer on Epstein’s jet.

    According to court documents, Clinton is identified as “Doe 36” and is mentioned in over 50 redacted filings (ABC News).

Epstein Didn't Kill Himself ... Again: Bill Clinton 'Identified' 50+ TIMES in Epstein Docs and HOO BOY
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/01/epstein-didnt-kill-himself-again-bill-clinton-identified-but-50-times-in-epstein-docs-and-hoo-boy-n2391281
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: RocketMan on January 01, 2024, 10:49:09 AM
"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: K Frame on January 02, 2024, 07:17:19 AM
Well, remember what Hillary said...

When a woman speaks out about abuse, you MUST believe her.

Oh, what a pity, the woman just committed suicide.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 02, 2024, 12:38:04 PM
Epstein List Hangs Itself Moments Before Release
https://babylonbee.com/news/epstein-list-hangs-itself-moments-before-release
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: 230RN on January 03, 2024, 03:53:12 AM
The method claimed for his suicide always seemed far-fetched to me. Supposedly he tied something like torn bedsheets to the bed and then jumped forward into it to break his neck.

Yeah, ummm, well... if you say so.  Something about the physics and strength of materials (his neck bones) doesn't jibe.   They even said this was a common method of suicide among prisoners.

Yeah, ummm, well... if you say so.

Oh, and the monitoring system wasn't functioning?

Yeah, ummm, well... if you say so.

And his cell door was open?

Yeah, ummm, well... if you say so.

             (https://images.clipartof.com/small/1393128-Clipart-Of-A-Cartoon-Green-Fish-Royalty-Free-Vector-Illustration.jpg)

I'm not signing this one while the monitoring system is on. <waves hand and smiles at the camera>
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 03, 2024, 08:37:59 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/17/fc/89/17fc89da63b8a1e2cee12b5574ec0b58.jpg)
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: RocketMan on January 03, 2024, 09:49:54 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/17/fc/89/17fc89da63b8a1e2cee12b5574ec0b58.jpg)

The scanned pdfs were showing up on news sites yesterday.  No real revelations yet beyond what was already expected.  And I am betting no one on the list will be held accountable for any crimes against minors they may have committed.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 03, 2024, 12:24:30 PM
Nope, no actual names yet due to a hang up

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The entire list of 187 names was due to become public this week, but a filing by a woman named in the court papers as 'John Doe 107'  appears to have stalled it and caused confusion.

On December 21, Judge Loretta Preska granted the woman a 30-day appeal, delaying the release of her name until January 22nd. She has until then to prove that she will be in danger if she is unmasked. 

While she has won a last-minute reprieve, it remains unclear if the same delay now applies to the entire list.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922923/Epstein-list-delay-Jane-Doe-107-Ghislaine-Maxwell.html
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 03, 2024, 01:35:27 PM
Apparently they worked it out because they're releasing the list minus 4 names today.

Jeffrey Epstein list WILL be released with first names dropping today: 'Jane Doe' 107 and three others to remain secret for 30 days
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12918991/Jeffrey-Epstein-list-unsealed-flight-visitor-logs.html

Wonder who the other 3 are? If Clinton doesn't show up on the list we know he's one of them.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 03, 2024, 02:09:16 PM
Got curious where that island is

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Little+Saint+James/@18.3003625,-64.8315784,14.08z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x8c051168c4c9f33d:0x4b2c4e6907c7bce7!8m2!3d18.3002113!4d-64.8251647!16s%2Fm%2F03h2bhh?entry=ttu

Zoomed out

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Little+Saint+James/@18.4781868,-68.4055053,7.87z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x8c051168c4c9f33d:0x4b2c4e6907c7bce7!8m2!3d18.3002113!4d-64.8251647!16s%2Fm%2F03h2bhh?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 03, 2024, 02:22:33 PM
Epstein Docs Delayed To Give Bill Clinton Time To Flee The Country
https://babylonbee.com/news/epstein-docs-delayed-to-give-bill-clinton-time-to-flee-the-country

That's the Babylon Bee BTW.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: K Frame on January 03, 2024, 02:22:58 PM
Got curious where that island is

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Little+Saint+James/@18.3003625,-64.8315784,14.08z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x8c051168c4c9f33d:0x4b2c4e6907c7bce7!8m2!3d18.3002113!4d-64.8251647!16s%2Fm%2F03h2bhh?entry=ttu

Zoomed out

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Little+Saint+James/@18.4781868,-68.4055053,7.87z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x8c051168c4c9f33d:0x4b2c4e6907c7bce7!8m2!3d18.3002113!4d-64.8251647!16s%2Fm%2F03h2bhh?entry=ttu

Planning a visit?
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 03, 2024, 02:23:45 PM
Planning a visit?

Not now  :rofl:
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 03, 2024, 07:58:03 PM
Several news outlets are saying they're going through the docs now. Almost a thousand pages.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 07:10:18 AM
Who is named in the Jeffrey Epstein files and what do the documents say? Key questions as bombshell 1,000-page dossier lists 170 A-list stars, politicians and leading figures
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12925441/Jeffrey-epstein-list-names-michael-jackson-kevin-spacey-george-lucas.html
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Epstein accuser Johanna Sjoberg said she and Virginia Giuffre had flown with Jeffrey Epstein to New York on his private jet.

On the way to New York, Sjoberg testified, Epstein's jet diverted to Atlantic City, New Jersey, and spent a few hours at one of Donald Trump's casinos, because of bad weather.

Upon hearing the change of plans, Sjoberg recalled Epstein saying, 'Great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to' the casino. Sjoberg wasn't asked if they'd met up with Trump that night. Later in her testimony, she said she was never asked to give Trump a massage.

Trump previously said that he once thought Epstein was a 'terrific guy,' but that they later had a falling out.

In her deposition, Giuffre said the summer she turned 17, she was lured away from a job as a spa attendant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago club to become a 'masseuse' for Epstein - a job that involved performing sexual acts.

So really not much to see as far as Trump is concerned

But went over to MSNBC and see a photo front and center of Trump and Epstein on their front page
I went there just to see if they would do something like that and they did
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 07:10:40 AM
Meanwhile

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    Colorado Supreme Court Votes To Remove Bill Clinton From Epstein Client List pic.twitter.com/ZVwiujNlvk
    — News That Matters (@ThatmattersNews) January 4, 2024

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 09:25:16 AM
 [popcorn]

Why Oh WHY Would She Do THAT?! LOL! Hillary Clinton Magically Turns Replies OFF On Posts Featuring Bill
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/04/clinton-likes-them-young-n2391370
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ron on January 04, 2024, 09:55:00 AM
Hillary likes them young as well, and prepared Sous vide.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Boomhauer on January 04, 2024, 10:14:19 AM
The only person that the government will go after on the Epstein list will be Trump.

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 12:29:32 PM
The plot thickens  [tinfoil]

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Former Israeli spies have gone on record stating that Epstein's international sex trafficking was a honeypot entrapment operation - gaining valuable 'kompromat' material to blackmail political and business elites.

Prince Andrew, also named in the new list, was Epstein's 'useful idiot', according to the intelligence agents, and described by the financier as his 'Super Bowl trophy' for his powerful connections.
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Maxwell - who acted as Epstein's madam - is also closely intertwined in the alleged honeytrap operation. Her father Robert Maxwell, a British newspaper magnate, is alleged to have been a Mossad agent and may have provided the link between Epstein and Jerusalem's intelligence agency.

Epstein list reignites suspicions that the pedophile financier was working for Mossad and blackmailing the rich and famous after ex-Israeli PM Ehud Barak was revealed to have met him at least 36 times
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12926465/jeffrey-epstein-list-friendship-israeli-prime-minister-ehud-barak.html
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 04:21:39 PM
Hillary Clinton Seen At Bass Pro Shops Buying New Sniper Rifle
https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-seen-at-bass-pro-shops-buying-new-sniper-rifle
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 06:50:17 PM
2nd batch of docs dropped. Waiting to see who is in this batch.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 05, 2024, 08:47:28 AM
#6  :rofl:

10 Most Shocking Revelations From The Epstein Documents
https://babylonbee.com/news/10-most-shocking-revelations-from-the-epstein-documents
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: lee n. field on January 05, 2024, 06:29:16 PM
#6  :rofl:

10 Most Shocking Revelations From The Epstein Documents
https://babylonbee.com/news/10-most-shocking-revelations-from-the-epstein-documents

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Chris Christie was banned from the island after the "buffet incident":

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 06, 2024, 03:29:37 PM
But wait, there's more

Scandal As Chris Christie Mentioned Over 50 Times In Unsealed Sizzler Documents
https://babylonbee.com/news/scandal-as-chris-christie-mentioned-over-50-times-in-unsealed-sizzler-documents
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 06, 2024, 03:30:35 PM
Bikini Bottom Scandal: New Leaked Documents Reveal Mr. Krabs Made Over 50 Trips To Weenie Hut Jr's
https://babylonbee.com/news/bikini-bottom-scandal-new-leaked-documents-reveal-mr-krabs-made-over-50-trips-to-weenie-hut-jrs
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 08, 2024, 12:52:27 PM
But wait, there's more

Scandal As Chris Christie Mentioned Over 50 Times In Unsealed Sizzler Documents
https://babylonbee.com/news/scandal-as-chris-christie-mentioned-over-50-times-in-unsealed-sizzler-documents

Sizzler?  More likely Krispy Kreme.

Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Ben on January 08, 2024, 03:10:17 PM
WTF are "special agents forces men"?

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/08/techno-fog-thread-another-batch-of-epstein-files-n2391511
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Pb on January 08, 2024, 03:59:46 PM
WTF are "special agents forces men"?

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/08/techno-fog-thread-another-batch-of-epstein-files-n2391511

This person also claimed she had a friend who was having sex with Trump as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12939281/Epstein-documents-released-17-exhibits-unsealed-court.html
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: RocketMan on January 08, 2024, 10:28:56 PM
This person also claimed she had a friend who was having sex with Trump as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12939281/Epstein-documents-released-17-exhibits-unsealed-court.html

Hard to believe.  I think if this were true, the FBI would have released any videos of Trump long ago.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Pb on January 08, 2024, 10:48:57 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Kingcreek on January 09, 2024, 08:11:53 AM
If they were sent by Hillary they would have Diplomatic Security Service and might have identified as Special Agents of the DSS. Not too hard to believe as more information comes out.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Deep state cesspool stuff.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on January 09, 2024, 11:41:02 AM
"It's Elon's fault I posted fake pictures"
What a *expletive deleted*che

Mark Ruffalo issues groveling apology after posting phony pics of Trump on 'pedo plane' of Jeffrey Epstein - but not without taking a shot at X owner Elon Musk for allowing 'disinformation' on site
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12941001/Mark-Ruffalo-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Elon-Musk-AI.html
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 09, 2024, 01:01:02 PM
"It's Elon's fault I posted fake pictures"
What a *expletive deleted*che

Mark Ruffalo issues groveling apology after posting phony pics of Trump on 'pedo plane' of Jeffrey Epstein - but not without taking a shot at X owner Elon Musk for allowing 'disinformation' on site
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12941001/Mark-Ruffalo-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Elon-Musk-AI.html

Musk should respond that he allows occasional disinformation on the site as an intelligence test for mouthy actors.  :rofl: I try not to hate people, but Ruffalo is such a no-talent, undeserving clown...

Actually, Ruffalo is worse than that. He's more like anti-talent. And a clown.
Title: Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
Post by: WLJ on February 29, 2024, 07:20:19 PM
Well since the big doc reveal turned into a big dud for the most part hopefully this results in something worthy of our attention.

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    Today I signed HB 117, authorizing the public release of grand jury documents like those in the Jeffrey Epstein case.

    Nobody should be above the law, regardless of wealth, status, or connections. The public deserves to know who participated in Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking…
    — Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) February 29, 2024
And ... Here ... We ... Go: Ron DeSantis Signs Law to Release Jeffrey Epstein Grand Jury Documents
https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2024/02/29/ron-desantis-signs-law-to-release-jeffrey-epstein-grand-jury-documents-n2393475