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Title: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: MechAg94 on November 14, 2019, 09:34:52 AM

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/watch-the-deepfakes-are-real-and-our-reality-is-at-risk/

The article is about modern computer tech that can create realistic fakes of video and such.  They link to a video a group made as an example showing both British PM candidates endorsing each other. 

I am a bit surprised Democrats didn't pull this out on Kavanagh, but I guess ABC's Battle of Knob Creek in Syria might be a pretty good example. 

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: fifth_column on November 14, 2019, 09:56:13 AM

It's been going on for a while.  What used to be considered paranoia is today considered healthy skepticism . . . .

Here's a more in-depth article:

https://www.livemint.com/technology/tech-news/ai-powered-deepfakes-are-a-bigger-threat-than-fake-news-1568308128713.html (https://www.livemint.com/technology/tech-news/ai-powered-deepfakes-are-a-bigger-threat-than-fake-news-1568308128713.html)

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: lee n. field on November 15, 2019, 07:52:14 PM

I'm coming to view a great percentage of what I see as, to some extent, a lie.

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 15, 2019, 08:27:39 PM

Thirty years ago, a guy I worked for used to say that, "Everything you see in the media is true ... unless you have first-hand knowledge of the facts."

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: zxcvbob on November 15, 2019, 08:59:14 PM

I used this as an illustration in an adult Sunday school class I got conned into substitute-teaching :D
https://babylonbee.com/news/snopes-rates-the-devils-lies-as-mostly-true

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: HankB on November 16, 2019, 08:39:45 PM

Quote from: Hawkmoon on November 15, 2019, 08:27:39 PM

Thirty years ago, a guy I worked for used to say that, "Everything you see in the media is true ... unless you have first-hand knowledge of the facts."

In the (relatively) few instances in which I DID have first-hand knowledge of the facts, the media DID in fact get things wrong.

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: T.O.M. on November 16, 2019, 09:05:50 PM

There's been talk for a while about the evidentiary value of digital media, be it photos, videos, or audio recordings.  The tech exists which allows for easy manipulation of the image or recording, and that manipulation can be basically undetectable.  I've read discussions of requiring film photos for law enforcement to minimize the risk of fakes. interesting times...

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: zahc on November 16, 2019, 09:41:53 PM

They used to use Polaroids integral films, which have serial numbers, for documentary purposes. For exactly the reason that there is no practical way to have any sort of evidence integrity of digital "photos". It could technically be done, cryptographically speaking, but in practice there is no method.

Title: Re: The deepfakes are real and our reality is at risk
Post by: 230RN on November 17, 2019, 11:20:13 AM

Even chemical photos are not immune from being "Mostly True," in the Snopes sense.

(https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2018/07/sovietphotoshopfeat.jpg)

       TRUE                               MOSTLY TRUE