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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on November 22, 2019, 08:28:08 AM
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https://apnews.com/37812aba4d1645bca8039ad3b96bf8c5
It is hideous.
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https://apnews.com/37812aba4d1645bca8039ad3b96bf8c5
It is hideous.
I'm thinking at this point he's gone insane.
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I kinda like it. Looks like something that would be used on Mars.
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I am reading comments elsewhere that it will likely sell well amongst the techbros of Silicon Valley, Seattle and other urban tech hubs. This is probably correct.
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A demonstration of the vehicle’s “armor glass” did not appear to go so smoothly. Metal balls hurled at the car cracked two windows — though it did not completely shatter.
Isn't that what bullet resistant glass is supposed to do?
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No mention of towing capacity or weight capacity. Or the range of the vehicle when loaded or pulling a boat. Anyone see pictures of other angles? The bed looks more than an SUV rear storage rather than a pickup bed. I want to know if someone can load up a refrigerator or some plywood to take home.
Rivian, a startup based near Detroit, plans to begin production in the second half of 2020 on an electric pickup that starts at $69,000 and has a battery range of 400-plus miles (643.7-kilometers). The Rivian truck will be able to tow 11,000 pounds (4,989.5 kilograms), go from zero to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in three seconds and wade into 3 feet (0.91 meters) of water, the company said. Ford said in April it would invest $500 million in Rivian.
This one they at least stated load capacities, but they didn't say it would do 400 miles while loaded or towing.
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No mention of towing capacity or weight capacity. Or the range of the vehicle when loaded or pulling a boat. Anyone see pictures of other angles? The bed looks more than an SUV rear storage rather than a pickup bed. I want to know if someone can load up a refrigerator or some plywood to take home.
This one they at least stated load capacities, but they didn't say it would do 400 miles while loaded or towing.
https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck
https://drivetribe.com/p/tesla-cybertruck-a-blocky-beast-KkcnGqOnSpKbkJklNN7cCw?iid=HSTpfPsSQW2EhjITlUK3Jg
www.google.com
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I don't like the look of it. It is neither retro nor futuristic. It looks like a Delorean mated with a pine wood derby car.
I have a slim hope that this is all an elaborate prank and the real truck will be unveiled later. The smashed glass is really just computer screens displaying fake cracks.
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That will be an enthusiast's car. It's not a truck. It's more like a Chevy Avalanche where you can throw a few sports or camping related things in the back, or a few sacks of home despot mulch. Nobody's going to be hauling lumber or sacks of concrete or loads tp the dump with it.
Nothing wrong with that if it's what you want, but it's a recreational vehicle.
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It looks like they tried to restyle a Pontiac Aztec...
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Truck looks like what you'd get if a couple of 9 year olds with cardboard and duct tape were told to dress up a toy car.
I live just west of Austin, TX, and see quite a few Teslas on local roads. I was surprised yesterday when I saw one with OREGON license plates! Unless the vehicle was trucked down here, I suppose there must actually be a network of charging stations in existence.
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I am reading comments elsewhere that it will likely sell well amongst the techbros of Silicon Valley, Seattle and other urban tech hubs. This is probably correct.
This could make sense if the price were higher. TechBros don't go for things that cost a mere $40k.
I don't know about US, but it will never sell in Europe without extensive redesign. The DOT is incompetent, but the European regulators will never let it on the road.
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https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck
https://drivetribe.com/p/tesla-cybertruck-a-blocky-beast-KkcnGqOnSpKbkJklNN7cCw?iid=HSTpfPsSQW2EhjITlUK3Jg
www.google.com
Thanks.
The Single Motor RWD accelerates from 0-60 in under 6.5 seconds, has a range of 250 miles or more and can tow over 7500 pounds of weight. It costs at least $39900.
The Dual Motor AWD accelerates from 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds, has a range of 300 miles or more and can tow over 10000 pounds of weight. It costs at least $49900.
The Tri-Motor AWD accelerates from 0-60 in under 2.9 seconds, has a range of 500 miles or more and can tow over 14000 pounds of weight. It costs at least $69900.
I am curious what the range is at full tow weight. Maybe I am just suspicious about the stated range. It would be pretty cool if it could do that range under load.
Do campgrounds typically have electricity to plug in?
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This could make sense if the price were higher. TechBros don't go for things that cost a mere $40k.
They will buy the tri-motor model at $ 70K.
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I live just west of Austin, TX, and see quite a few Teslas on local roads. I was surprised yesterday when I saw one with OREGON license plates! Unless the vehicle was trucked down here, I suppose there must actually be a network of charging stations in existence.
https://www.tesla.com/supercharger
They are building out a nationwide network along the major freeways. I have been interested to see them built in this area. The three closest to me are: In a casino parking lot along I-5 70 miles south of the Canadian border; in a Walmart parking lot along I-5 30 miles north of Seattle; and in a Fred Meyer parking lot along Highway 2 (the northern east-west highway in Washington).
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Do campgrounds typically have electricity to plug in?
Depends on the campground. I'm sure some of the nice campgrounds have electricity and I bet a few have superchargers at the site or nearby. You can charge a Tesla with a 120v outlet, it just takes a long time.
I know Tesla has a bunch of supercharges across the country. Enough to drive coast to coast on a variety of routes. Many hotels now offer some type of EV charging to their guests.
My FIL lives in Texas and has a Tesla S. He has driven it to California, Idaho, Colorado many times. As long as he plans the route, he can make it just fine.
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Am I correct in my recollection that American electric vehicles do not have a common charging interface and therefore cannot use any electric charging station?
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As an actual truck for, you know, work, it's a turd. As a VYH (Virtue-Signaling Yuppie HipsterMobile), it's perfect.
Brad
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https://apnews.com/37812aba4d1645bca8039ad3b96bf8c5
It is hideous.
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The Homer may have been an abomination before man and God, but it was still better looking than the Aztek.
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Am I correct in my recollection that American electric vehicles do not have a common charging interface and therefore cannot use any electric charging station?
I think you are. Around here the Sheetz stations started putting in Tesla chargers. In the 60s guys hung out at the gas station in their hot rods and smoked marlboros. I saw the modern equivalent, guy charging his Tesla and vaping. THat's it, send the meteor.
They are at walmarts too, and I know the owners find stations by the app, but if there is a charger anywhere else a tesla jockey isn't going to walmart. Dumb business decision, they will never get the investment back.
I consider a business out here in the middle of nowhere with a charger. But sometime there will be a Tesla and Edison or a VHS and Betamax situation, a charging evolutionary dead end.
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I think there are adapters for most charging stations. A Tesla guy showed me the bag of adapters in his trunk. As a worst case, you can plug into 120v outlet but I think it charges about 2 miles per hour. Supercharger is up to 1000 miles per hour.
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"Am I correct in my recollection that American electric vehicles do not have a common charging interface and therefore cannot use any electric charging station?"
Not sure, but I believe that all Japanese electrics use one charger style, which is also used by, I think, Chevy...
Tesla has its own charger style, but it's got an adapter that allows it to charge pretty much anything out there...
https://ww.electrek.co/2017/06/20/tesla-j1772-adapter-electric-cars-destination-chargers/
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I think you are. Around here the Sheetz stations started putting in Tesla chargers. In the 60s guys hung out at the gas station in their hot rods and smoked marlboros. I saw the modern equivalent, guy charging his Tesla and vaping. THat's it, send the meteor.
My model 3 will smoke any of those hot rods.
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I also thought I had read that the EU requires all electric vehicles sold in the EU to have a common charging interface, and I thought what a good idea that was.
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Am I correct in my recollection that American electric vehicles do not have a common charging interface and therefore cannot use any electric charging station?
No standardized plug and no standardized power settings. Like others have said, the Tesla comes with several adapter pieces. The onboard software controls how quickly the car charges.
I have a Model 3. I can charge it with 120v wall outlet at about 4 miles of range per hour, or with the dedicated charger at about 40 miles/hr, or a Supercharger at ludicrous speed. I haven't tried charging at other manufacturer's chargers, so I can't guarantee it will work.
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My model 3 will smoke any of those hot rods.
It may well but it will never, not in this life or the next, be anywhere close to as cool as a chopped '32 coupe running a blown 454.
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I wonder if Tesla will produce a version with loudspeakers on the outside and an MP3 player connected to the throttle to make "vroom-vroom" noises.
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I wonder if Tesla will produce a version with loudspeakers on the outside and an MP3 player connected to the throttle to make "vroom-vroom" noises.
I remember a short story in an SF anthology from quite a few years ago. World is decades into resource depletion scarcity and poverty. Most people, if they drive, might have a "plywood and plastic austerity beetle". One guy, to spite his despised neighbor, has an old behemoth land yacht of a car, that he ostentatiously leaves running as he goes in for his daily paper and coffee. "Go ahead and report it. The EPA loves my car!"
In the last scene, the owner, in the privacy of his garage, starts in on his nightly 2 hour hand cranking of the spring that powers the thing, and contemplates putting a bit more rumble in the sound output.
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My elecric company's FAQ on the matter. All I wanted to know was approximately how much it cost to to recharge a typical pasenger car. Ballparkey number. (Household electricity hereabouts is $0.14/kWh for my low-use apartment residence, including all taxes and other charges):
https://www.xcelenergy.com/energy_portfolio/innovation/electric_vehicles?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxeTGkIf_5QIVwh6tBh0mwwwKEAAYASAAEgKA4_D_BwE
Their PDF of a relative cost analysis:
https://www.xcelenergy.com/staticfiles/xe/PDF/18-05-411_CO_EV_Graphic_TimeOfUse_P02.pdf
I loved that windup spring story. TNX lee n. field.
(I never read the original.)
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My model 3 will smoke any of those hot rods.
You have the Performance Model? How do you like it?
I'm strongly considering a just off lease EV to replace one of my households 3 ICE cars when we're do for a new one. We should be looking in 3(ish) years. A Model 3 or Model Y are kinda at the top of that list.
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You have the Performance Model? How do you like it?
I'm strongly considering a just off lease EV to replace one of my households 3 ICE cars when we're do for a new one. We should be looking in 3(ish) years. A Model 3 or Model Y are kinda at the top of that list.
We have the long range dual motor version. It isn't the performance trim, but it is really quick.
I like it quite a bit. My biggest gripes are about the cruise control and "autopilot." I don't like the logic on either of those systems.
As for daily driving issues, there aren't any. It is comfy, quiet, and performs well.
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I like it quite a bit. My biggest gripes are about the cruise control and "autopilot." I don't like the logic on either of those systems.
Yeah, but what do you know about autopilots? >:D
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We have the long range dual motor version. It isn't the performance trim, but it is really quick.
I like it quite a bit. My biggest gripes are about the cruise control and "autopilot." I don't like the logic on either of those systems.
As for daily driving issues, there aren't any. It is comfy, quiet, and performs well.
That's actually really useful feedback. Because when you are looking at them Autopilot is like a $7000 option. It's bundled with some other stuff though. I gotta look and see what else it comes with. Thanks.
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That's actually really useful feedback. Because when you are looking at them Autopilot is like a $7000 option. It's bundled with some other stuff though. I gotta look and see what else it comes with. Thanks.
The autopilot is just software, so you cam always buy that later, if you want. Of course, it will cost more then.
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Looks like something out of a low budget 70s sci fi TV show
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Meh .... I still prefer the Knight Industries Two Thousand.
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Looks a wee bit radar-stealthy,no? =D
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Terry
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I remember a short story in an SF anthology from quite a few years ago. World is decades into resource depletion scarcity and poverty. Most people, if they drive, might have a "plywood and plastic austerity beetle". One guy, to spite his despised neighbor, has an old behemoth land yacht of a car, that he ostentatiously leaves running as he goes in for his daily paper and coffee. "Go ahead and report it. The EPA loves my car!"
In the last scene, the owner, in the privacy of his garage, starts in on his nightly 2 hour hand cranking of the spring that powers the thing, and contemplates putting a bit more rumble in the sound output.
Found it! Full story available on the Interwebz: Speed of the Cheetah, Roar of the Lion (http://williamflew.com/hh.html)
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Found it! Full story available on the Interwebz: Speed of the Cheetah, Roar of the Lion (http://williamflew.com/hh.html)
Thank you! I also really enjoyed your description of the windup car story, then couldn't even remember what thread it was in. I will enjoy reading it even if I know how it ends :)
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Looks like something out of a low budget 70s sci fi TV show
I was thinking 80's post-nuclear war show.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075909/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_19
Damnation Alley (1977)
I thought it was an 80's show, but maybe that is just when I saw it.
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"DAMNATION ALLEY". Love that great sf classic ! Saw it in the theater and have the DVD! Wonderful adventure --- killer cockroaches and all!!!!!! [tinfoil] [popcorn] [popcorn] .... :rofl:
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I wonder if Tesla will produce a version with loudspeakers on the outside and an MP3 player connected to the throttle to make "vroom-vroom" noises.
You could stick a playing card in the spokes.
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Someone online has pointed out the very distinct similarity between the Tesla truck and the police cars in Blade Runner...
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Thank you! I also really enjoyed your description of the windup car story, then couldn't even remember what thread it was in. I will enjoy reading it even if I know how it ends :)
And reading over the story, I see that I got the gist, but many details are wrong. I'd make a good blurb writer.
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There was no problem with your blurb. Besides, too many details tend to smother the point. Heh. So look who's talking here. Me. Heh.
Terry
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Who is this for?
https://youtu.be/L3R0WlhZplY