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Title: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: K Frame on April 06, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
I was wondering when this was going to happen.

Anyone surprised at this accusation?

Anyone?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-mika-brzezinski-trump-financial-tie-hydroxychloroquine

Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: WLJ on April 06, 2020, 01:51:16 PM
Well maybe they should start an impeachment then
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: RocketMan on April 06, 2020, 01:51:24 PM
I was wondering when this was going to happen.

Anyone surprised at this accusation?

Anyone?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-mika-brzezinski-trump-financial-tie-hydroxychloroquine

I'm just surprised it took the Dems so long to dream this up.  They must be distracted by something.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: K Frame on April 06, 2020, 01:52:50 PM
This isn't the political left... yet.

This is the VERY left-leaning news media. The two people in the story are part of the MSNBC Madcow network.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: WLJ on April 06, 2020, 01:56:59 PM
This isn't the political left... yet.

This is the VERY left-leaning news media. The two people in the story are part of the MSNBC Madcow network.

Only different is where their desk is located
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 06, 2020, 02:28:03 PM
Essential reporting.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Ron on April 06, 2020, 06:43:06 PM
Enemy of the people.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: grampster on April 06, 2020, 07:37:03 PM
Free speech is a double edged sword.  Unfortunately a good deal of the populace of the USA isn't able to bring themselves to sample all sorts of it and then think about what they hear.  Some of the most heavily propagandized of the citizenry that I know personally, are many times the most "educated".  It's rather ironic.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: HankB on April 07, 2020, 09:29:07 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if MANY people with holdings in mutual funds have a "financial stake" in drugs . . . and tobacco . . . and alcohol . . . without even knowing it.

But saying Trump's actions are influenced by his desire to profit from a drug that certainly went off-patent more than a half century ago is absurd.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Ron on April 07, 2020, 09:38:57 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if MANY people with holdings in mutual funds have a "financial stake" in drugs . . . and tobacco . . . and alcohol . . . without even knowing it.

But saying Trump's actions are influenced by his desire to profit from a drug that certainly went off-patent more than a half century ago is absurd.

All of our media is absurd.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Ben on April 07, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if MANY people with holdings in mutual funds have a "financial stake" in drugs . . . and tobacco . . . and alcohol . . . without even knowing it.

But saying Trump's actions are influenced by his desire to profit from a drug that certainly went off-patent more than a half century ago is absurd.

Regarding the first, I think a lot of these progressives would be shocked at how much "evil money" they have made in their retirement accounts.

Regarding the second, I think it's absurd because that kind of investing is completely out of Trump's wheelhouse. His focus is in completely unrelated areas.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 07, 2020, 10:07:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KFTHjN4.jpg)


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 07, 2020, 12:09:50 PM
Well, the NYT is now reporting that the Trump family trust has major investments in the company that owns the company that makes the name brand of it.
Expect the impeachment bandwagon to spoil back up...
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: charby on April 07, 2020, 12:37:53 PM
Drug has been around since the 1940s and has no patent on it. Think about that.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Ben on April 07, 2020, 12:42:11 PM
Well, the NYT is now reporting that the Trump family trust has major investments in the company that owns the company that makes the name brand of it.
Expect the impeachment bandwagon to spoil back up...

Also, as pointed out above, these are usually blended funds where the shareholders have no idea what's what. I'm sure I own both Green Unicorn Farts Inc and Nuclear Waste LTD somewhere in the thousands of companies in my blended funds.

I actually kinda hope they try to impeach again. I'd like to make sure the house flips back, mostly for the Schadenfreude, as under normal circumstances, I like a split congress.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 07, 2020, 02:39:34 PM
Also, as pointed out above, these are usually blended funds where the shareholders have no idea what's what. I'm sure I own both Green Unicorn Farts Inc and Nuclear Waste LTD somewhere in the thousands of companies in my blended funds.

I actually kinda hope they try to impeach again. I'd like to make sure the house flips back, mostly for the Schadenfreude, as under normal circumstances, I like a split congress.

Regardless. It's the narrative now.  And it fits the mold of the spin and narrative for how Trump is framed by his detractors.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 07, 2020, 03:34:24 PM
Interesting article on why Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin has a lot of potential as a treatment

https://web.archive.org/web/20200405061401/https://medium.com/@agaiziunas/covid-19-had-us-all-fooled-but-now-we-might-have-finally-found-its-secret-91182386efcb
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: RocketMan on April 07, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
Interesting article on why Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin has a lot of potential as a treatment

https://web.archive.org/web/20200405061401/https://medium.com/@agaiziunas/covid-19-had-us-all-fooled-but-now-we-might-have-finally-found-its-secret-91182386efcb

That really is an interesting article.  I like the somewhat humorous way the author put things in layman's terms.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 08, 2020, 09:46:54 AM
So here's what happens when someone actually promotes a fake, self-medication cure that will get people killed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8196535/600-people-died-Iran-drinking-neat-alcohol-cure-coronavirus.html

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Hundreds of people have died and thousands more have been poisoned in Iran after drinking high-concentration alcohol in the mistaken belief it can cure coronavirus.

More than 600 people have died after attempting the cure and some 3,000 are now in hospital, Iranian judicial spokesman Gholam Hossein Esmaili said Tuesday.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 08, 2020, 09:57:01 AM
Well, they didn't die from Corona.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Silver Bullet on April 08, 2020, 05:05:49 PM
The socialists are desperate.  Their primaries have been a huge joke and Trump is getting good PR with the daily updates.  The socialists see this as their last chance to try and create some traction.

Similar to school shootings, the virus has been a godsend for them.

Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 08, 2020, 06:02:51 PM
The socialists are desperate.  Their primaries have been a huge joke and Trump is getting good PR with the daily updates.  The socialists see this as their last chance to try and create some traction.

Similar to school shootings, the virus has been a godsend for them.



The administration seems to have gotten it's *expletive deleted*it together.  They're already getting guidelines together for people going back to work and how to handle new cases.
Also, as many things as I'm not a fan of Trump for, the #1 thing I think he could accomplish is shortening the US's supply chain and bringing manufacturing home.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: 230RN on April 08, 2020, 06:19:31 PM
^
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Also, as many things as I'm not a fan of Trump for, the #1 thing I think he could accomplish is shortening the US's supply chain and bringing manufacturing home.

From your keypad to G-d's Smartphone.

Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 08, 2020, 09:37:13 PM
Interesting article on why Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin has a lot of potential as a treatment

https://web.archive.org/web/20200405061401/https://medium.com/@agaiziunas/covid-19-had-us-all-fooled-but-now-we-might-have-finally-found-its-secret-91182386efcb


To back this up, the AP reports that doctors are reassessing the use of ventilators for COVID-19, and spells out how the use of ventilators isn't working out the way it should.

Note, however, that the article manages to NOT mention that there may be other, better alternatives for treatment (including a certain anti-malarial drug possibly mentioned once or twice by the Orangeman President).

https://apnews.com/8ccd325c2be9bf454c2128dcb7bd616d

Obviously, we need to stop producing ventilators and start producing hyperbaric chambers. And healthy blood donors.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Phantom Warrior on April 08, 2020, 10:44:02 PM
He owns a whole $435 of the company's stock...max.

https://www.cernovich.com/sanofi-and-trump/ (https://www.cernovich.com/sanofi-and-trump/)
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 09, 2020, 08:14:08 PM
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-profit-hydroxychloroquine/

Not even Snopes is buying it.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 10, 2020, 08:22:27 AM
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-profit-hydroxychloroquine/

Not even Snopes is buying it.

Don't worry. Schiff will tell us Snopes isn't mainstream and can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Left is now insinuating that Trump has a financial stake in antimalarial
Post by: WLJ on April 10, 2020, 08:24:03 AM
Don't worry. Schiff will tell us Snopes isn't mainstream and can't be trusted.

Snopes says mostly true