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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: charby on November 02, 2020, 03:42:00 PM
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I thought this was just Antifa crap.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/caravans-of-trump-supporters-block-traffic-on-nj-parkway-ny-bridge/2699128/
Also the whole bus harassment thing in Texas.
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Some folks have decided goose/gander I suppose.
Trump supporters in NJ probably feel pretty marginalized.
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Antifa & BLM block traffic and even attack cars and drivers and the the media looks the other way.
Trump supporters are causing traffic jams by their shear numbers and the media calls it blocking traffic
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Antifa & BLM block traffic and assault those that stop and the the media looks the other way.
Trump supporters are causing traffic jams by their shear numbers and the media calls it blocking traffic
FTFY
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I was too slow with the edit
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From the video in that link:
"Supporters left their cars to fly flags and brought traffic to a halt." That is not a traffic jam from sheer number, that's halting traffic to make a political point. Let's call a spade a spade.
On the other hand, I've been repeatedly assured by my betters this year that halting traffic to make a political point is not only OK, but protected First Amendment speech, so "meh".
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On the other hand, I've been repeatedly assured by my betters this year that halting traffic to make a political point is not only OK, but protected First Amendment speech, so "meh".
^this
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Bus harassment? Nice spin.
I'm not a fan of anyone stopping traffic but after the last eight months of leftist agitation and violence across the country, as was so succinctly put above ... meh
Maybe the leftists should stop harassing the rest of the country.
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And no matter what, these people are hundreds of times worse than the individuals who are running amok in Vienna right now.
Because... OMB REASONS!
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From the video in that link:
"Supporters left their cars to fly flags and brought traffic to a halt." That is not a traffic jam from sheer number, that's halting traffic to make a political point. Let's call a spade a spade.
On the other hand, I've been repeatedly assured by my betters this year that halting traffic to make a political point is not only OK, but protected First Amendment speech, so "meh".
Did they leave their cars before or after traffic already stopped? Appeared to me traffic was already stopped. I've been in jams so bad where people got out of their cars and started walking around.
Compare that to protesters running out and blocking freely moving traffic and then beating on the cars and in some cases assaulting the occupants
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"voter intimidation"
Biden adviser Bob Bauer: "You may have also heard of so-called 'Trump train' … groups of cars traveling through neighborhoods with Trump signs honking horns and apparently attempting to harass … voter intimidation is illegal and will be prosecuted" https://t.co/zjcr7gFqed
— Emily Larsen (@emilyelarsen) November 2, 2020
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/11/02/voter-intimidation-is-illegal-joe-biden-adviser-warns-participants-in-so-called-trump-trains-theyre-breaking-the-law/
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Also the whole bus harassment thing in Texas.
If they're intentionally blocking roads, they're dead wrong, but what is bus harassment? What are they doing wrong there?
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It would not be a surprise to me that Trump has some supporters who are jerks enough to block a road intentionally. Only takes a few, and I have no delusion that all people on any given political “side” are either purely good or exclusively evil.
That said, charby attempting to equate this to antifa/BLM closing down roads for hours, days, or weeks at a time, mobbing vehicles, smashing cars, attacking drivers, and generally rioting is laughable.
Is it wrong? Sure.
Is it equivalent? Ha!
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It would not be a surprise to me that Trump has some supporters who are jerks enough to block a road intentionally. Only takes a few, and I have no delusion that all people on any given political “side” are either purely good or exclusively evil.
That said, charby attempting to equate this to antifa/BLM closing down roads for hours, days, or weeks at a time, mobbing vehicles, smashing cars, attacking drivers, and generally rioting is laughable.
Is it wrong? Sure.
Is it equivalent? Ha!
Not making a comparison, but hands sre not clean anymore to point.
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Not making a comparison, but hands sre not clean anymore to point.
We'll see. The truth will come out. In any case, the contrast between the Trump rallies, vs the Biden rallies that have been going on since May, is clear to anyone with open eyes, and willing to face the truth. Trying to equivocate the two is very weak sauce.
On the trucks following the Biden bus, I'm waiting for the media to ask Maxine Waters' opinion.
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I don’t see any traffic being blocked...all I see is peaceful protesting...
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Not making a comparison, but hands sre not clean anymore to point.
IMO, assault and battery is about the point where their hands get dirty. Antifa has been doing that in some places for years. That apparently didn't happen in this incident.
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Not making a comparison, but hands sre not clean anymore to point.
Yes you were. Explicitly.
I thought this was just Antifa crap.
Also, with regards to clean hands and pointing fingers I don’t recall the moderate left condemning the antifa/BLM for blocking roads. There was some mild reproach for violence as an afterthought, but as has been mentioned, blocking roads was always labeled peaceful protest. What was your position on that at the time?
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Also, shouldn't the people caught behind the evil Trump roadblocks have practiced better situational awareness? Isn't it really up to them to be aware of road conditions and not to be caught in Trump Trains? Shouldn't they have listened to the news, seen the slowdowns on Google Maps and taken a different route? Really no ones' fault but their own, right charby?
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Everyone knows Trump regularly embellishes and occasionally lies.
Somehow that means we have to ignore the left lying about just about everything.
The left lies about the littlest things all the way up to constructing alternate realities through the media.
The media/democrats have created an impressive edifice, a matrix of lies, a knee jerk response where everything is filtered through their matrix of lies narrative.
Chris Hayes does Charby one better and claims on TV a Trump supporter rammed into a Bidens staffers vehicle.
At some point you have to look at these things and wonder if they are really delusional or if they are just soo committed to their leftism that they will lie right to your face about everything without flinching.
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Yes you were. Explicitly.
Also, with regards to clean hands and pointing fingers I don’t recall the moderate left condemning the antifa/BLM for blocking roads. There was some mild reproach for violence as an afterthought, but as has been mentioned, blocking roads was always labeled peaceful protest. What was your position on that at the time?
Faux paus on my part, wasn't supposed to be, supposed to be a joke.
We're you raised Catholic? You seem to take everything to the letter by letter absolute level.
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IMO, assault and battery is about the point where their hands get dirty. Antifa has been doing that in some places for years. That apparently didn't happen in this incident.
Didn't antifa start out doing little annoying things like 20 years ago?
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Faux paus on my part, wasn't supposed to be, supposed to be a joke.
Oh, sure. Real humdinger.
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Didn't antifa start out doing little annoying things like 20 years ago?
Closer to 90
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
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Closer to 90
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
I was thinking the modern US Antifa.
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Yeah, why are they blocking roadways?
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/El7fhy0XYAMaSBu.jpg)