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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on November 08, 2020, 02:53:52 PM
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Or at least it overtly seems that way to me. Yesterday I read an article in the Washington Post (on my phone, so sorry no link) where they talked about the Rupert clan calling Fox News, Fox Business, The Wall Street Journal, and New York Post and giving them all marching orders about calling the election and ensuring they refer to Biden as "President-Elect". Which from what I have seen, they are doing.
I saw they also suspended Jeanine Pirro yesterday because she was going to buck that on her show. If anything, I'm also seeing some Fox News personalities (yes, I used that word on purpose) almost gleeful at Trump's loss. Certainly not all of them, but the others, from what I have seen, seem to be treading lightly. Certainly not as conservatively vocal (some of you here might say biased) as they usually are.
Additionally, suddenly I'm seeing stories like this one on their site:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/forget-traditional-election-maps-this-is-what-the-us-vote-really-looks-like
That's a map without state borders defending a democracy and national popular vote. Up until now, they seem to have been defending the electoral college. There are more examples like this, and I'm just waiting for them to go from relatively pro-second amendment articles to "common sense gun laws".
Anyway, it's interesting to me how this suddenly happened. I've seen it mentioned at various conservative sites I visit (not to mention some left leaning sites, like the Washington Post), so I know it's not just me. Gotta wonder what is going on behind the scenes with the Murdoch family.
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I lost what little respect I had for FOX when they hired Donna Brazil.
Murdoch Jr. is a hard core libtard and Clinton sycophant.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/anger-grows-among-fans-fox-news-networks-coverage-2020-election/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/08/12/newsmax-has-emerged-landing-spot-cable-news-personalities-need-new-home/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/anger-grows-among-fans-fox-news-networks-coverage-2020-election/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/08/12/newsmax-has-emerged-landing-spot-cable-news-personalities-need-new-home/
I was googling a bit more and one of the left news sites - I think the Intercept - was talking about how this could be the younger brother, or possibly more his wife. The older brother is apparently very conservative, but the younger one is, well, the Intercept called him middle of the road, so I'll go with far left. Especially the wife I guess, as she was one of the first people to congratulate Biden, and there was some information about all their big donations to left wing politicians and causes.
I think we can expect an even bigger change once Rupert, who's near 90, passes away.
Edit 1: I also read something about the elder Murdoch brother making some statement about they know what they are doing and their eye is on profit, making it seem they would be changing direction because they see $$$, but I can't see anyone on the left changing their news source to Fox.
Edit 2: I also saw some hate at Angel Eyes Gateway Pundit link, in the reader comments, about Paul Ryan and the Murdochs and going woke. I can't find anything about it though.
Geez - edit 3: Apparently Greg Gutfeld is temporarily gone too. It's like the Romans killing every tenth man.
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I lost what little respect I had for FOX when they hired Donna Brazil.
Murdoch Jr. is a hard core libtard and Clinton sycophant.
I lost some respect when they hired Chris Wallace. Some years earlier Wallace showed his true colors when, wearing his usual "gotcha" smirk, he asked Pat Buchanan (who was running for POTUS back then) whether or not there would be room in a Buchanan administration for David Duke.
Pat gave a one word answer - NO! - and then sat there looking at Wallace. Wallace - thrown off by an answer he couldn't spin or twist - moved on to another topic.
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Additionally, suddenly I'm seeing stories like this one on their site:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/forget-traditional-election-maps-this-is-what-the-us-vote-really-looks-like
That's a map without state borders defending a democracy and national popular vote. Up until now, they seem to have been defending the electoral college. There are more examples like this, and I'm just waiting for them to go from relatively pro-second amendment articles to "common sense gun laws".
Yeah. "When you visualize the vote by population, you get a completely different picture." That's correct -- you get a picture that clearly illustrates why the Founders set up the United States as a constitutional republic rather than a straight democracy, and why the electoral college system was established -- so that a few heavily populated cities couldn't totally override the rest of the nation.
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I have been, and continue to be, a fan of the Electoral College. Otherwise, New York, Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Texas and California would be electing the President, and the rest of the states would count for nothing.
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I have been, and continue to be, a fan of the Electoral College. Otherwise, New York, Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Texas and California would be electing the President, and the rest of the states would count for nothing.
With no Electoral College, whichever state does the most egregious voter fraud will elect the president
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With no Electoral College, whichever state does the most egregious voter fraud will elect the president
Fraud in several states might still work.
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Without an electoral college - and of course a bicameral legislature one part of which is NOT population dependent - there would not be fifty states, but probably 10 or less. The smaller states simply would have refused to join.
Unless invasion and annexation had been instituted the way the Soviets seized the Baltic states.
In which case the USA would have had more than one civil war already, and much of the country would be in a state of perpetual unrest - or have a government like North Korea's.
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If Fox News is going liberal, who is the alternative now? I don't mind switching to a different news source, but I have been reading Fox for so long that I don't know who is the conservative alternate.
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I'm leaning towards AON and Newsmax
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Props to Ron for the heads up in another thread, but if you're interested in sampling OANN, they are free until the end of the year:
https://www.klowdtv.com/home.ktv
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A lot of that stuff is too tinfoily. Read the foreign news services and if you read enough an idea can be had of the real story.
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Read the foreign news services and if you read enough an idea can be had of the real story.
Though you still have to verify. I got emails from three different cousins in Germany over the last few days, all of them asking "WTF?" regarding why US election counting is so slow and screwed up (good points all). The one liberal cousin though, went off on how she was so happy Biden won. Also that all of Europe is happy and all America must be happy because they have been disgusted by the Trump stories reported in the news there.
MSM is MSM, regardless of country/language. :)
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Fox is having a bad week. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/09/when-someone-shows-you-who-they-really-are-fox-news-anchor-sandra-smith-caught-on-hot-mic-showing-her-true-colors-watch/
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Fox is having a bad week. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/09/when-someone-shows-you-who-they-really-are-fox-news-anchor-sandra-smith-caught-on-hot-mic-showing-her-true-colors-watch/
Sucks when you're caught being controlled opposition.
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More Fox News division. Yesterday, Neil Cavuto, who I have actually always thought was a reasonable reporter, pulled a CNN and cut away from Kayleigh McEnanay when she was outlining the admin's fraud concerns, stating he was doing it because of "false, unverifiable information". Tucker Carlson called him out on it.
Almost makes you think they're just putting on a divisive show for ratings.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/11/10/tucker-carlson-we-need-to-find-out-exactly-what-happened-in-this-election/
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So are we thinking Trump News Network (launching 1 Feb 2021) will be a pay/month streaming service or podcast/youtube channel format?
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^^^Given that President Trump owes hundreds of millions of dollars, I don't see him doing anything for free.
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Wow. Newsmax has beaten Fox Business (as well as others in MSM) in the ratings. Apparently their viewership has grown exponentially in the last couple of weeks. Kinda wish they would beat Fox News instead of Fox Business, but that might yet happen. I'm a new Newsmax viewer myself.
Not sure if this makes Brian Stelter happy or mad.
https://twitchy.com/brads-313037/2020/11/15/newsmax-is-benefitting-in-huge-fashion-from-fox-news-driving-away-its-audience-will-the-media-landscape-shift-as-a-result/
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I did not know there was a Newsmax TV. I've known about their news site for a long time.
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Fox is having a bad week. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/09/when-someone-shows-you-who-they-really-are-fox-news-anchor-sandra-smith-caught-on-hot-mic-showing-her-true-colors-watch/
I don't understand what she was reacting to, or what she said.
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Fox News was always leftist in that it was the "right wing" voice of the leftist narrative.
They were never truly of the right.
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Fox news now projects it has lost it's viewers ...
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Now they got trounced by Morning Joe and MSNBC.
https://twitchy.com/brads-313037/2020/11/17/the-self-created-problems-for-fox-news-continue-as-morning-joe-tops-the-ratings-for-the-first-time-in-decades/
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I don't understand what she was reacting to, or what she said.
Someone observed that corporate media do not certify election results, and the anchor thought that was a stupid thing to say.
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Someone observed that corporate media do not certify election results, and the anchor thought that was a stupid thing to say.
"BuT wE cAlLeD iT!"
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Prior to the TDS pandemic I would occasionally flip over to Morning Joe. It was rare but from time to time he made cogent points. Once Mika took possession of his balls it was all over.
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I can't help but think that we're seeing the MSM in general hit critical mass. Something's going to give.
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I've watched Fox news for decades. Lately I've switched to OAN.
I didn't pay much attention at the time and I've probably forgotten more than I remember (& I'm too lazy to research) but I've been wondering how much of the crap thrown at O'Reilly was real vs made up just to get rid of him.
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I've watched Fox news for decades. Lately I've switched to OAN.
I didn't pay much attention at the time and I've probably forgotten more than I remember (& I'm too lazy to research) but I've been wondering how much of the crap thrown at O'Reilly was real vs made up just to get rid of him.
My sister gets OAN. I don't. Grrrrrrr! :mad:
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Gateway Pundit looks at the numbers for FOX comparing Aug 2020 to Nov 2020.
They've committed suicide, even Tucker has lost over 2 million viewers.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/fox-news-swirling-toliet/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
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My sister gets OAN. I don't. Grrrrrrr! :mad:
Free through the end of the year
https://www.klowdtv.com/package.ktv?package=freeoannTrump
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Gateway Pundit looks at the numbers for FOX comparing Aug 2020 to Nov 2020.
They've committed suicide, even Tucker has lost over 2 million viewers.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/fox-news-swirling-toliet/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Well, ain't that just a crying shame.