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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: p12 on January 08, 2021, 07:56:13 PM
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This is actually related to politics.
Does Google have any ownership in Android?
Apple is threatening to ban the Parler app.
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This is actually related to politics.
Does Google have any ownership in Android?
Apple is threatening to ban the Parler app.
And google already banned it.
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Been many moons since I used android.
Can’t apps be downloaded outside from the play store?
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And google already banned it.
Holy crap.
While Android is open source and you can set your phone up without the googles, where do you go for apps? Are there any depositories of apps that have any kind of a decent catalog, and that are easy enough for an average Android user to get? For that matter, rooting a phone is not something a lot of people (like your grandma) are comfortable doing.
Again, this is outrageous. Because so many people have come to rely on not only these social media platforms, but the underlying OS platforms, this is really akin to Verizon deciding what numbers you can and can't call from your phone.
And I bet because of DC, all the Republican reps that were screaming about section 230 and having hearings and everything are now going to forget all about it.
Seriously, I think we are already in the middle of a backdoor takeover of the United States. I sit here and realize that in the matter of a week I have gone from tinfoil theories to watching it actually happen.
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Can’t apps be downloaded outside from the play store?
Yes. The APK file can be downloaded and installed locally on your phone.
https://www.apkfiles.com/
https://www.apkmirror.com/
links worth looking at:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/09/install-use-custom-rom-no-google-apps/
https://nolanlawson.com/2019/06/13/how-to-de-google-your-android-phone/
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This is actually related to politics.
Does Google have any ownership in Android?
Apple is threatening to ban the Parler app.
Yes, Google developed Android. Android is a "free" OS because the user of the OS becomes a marketing product for Google to sell.
You can "side load" an app by searching for its APK package and downloading it. You have to go into your phone's settings in order to allow package installation from sources other than Google Play Store, but it doesn't require rooting to do it.
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Anyone know anything about the "reintroduced" Blackberries? I guess they are Android now, but are they linked to Google, or do they have their own thing going?
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Holy crap.
While Android is open source and you can set your phone up without the googles, where do you go for apps? Are there any depositories of apps that have any kind of a decent catalog, and that are easy enough for an average Android user to get? For that matter, rooting a phone is not something a lot of people (like your grandma) are comfortable doing.
Again, this is outrageous. Because so many people have come to rely on not only these social media platforms, but the underlying OS platforms, this is really akin to Verizon deciding what numbers you can and can't call from your phone.
And I bet because of DC, all the Republican reps that were screaming about section 230 and having hearings and everything are now going to forget all about it.
Seriously, I think we are already in the middle of a backdoor takeover of the United States. I sit here and realize that in the matter of a week I have gone from tinfoil theories to watching it actually happen.
Seems surreal doesn't it? Welcome to the party.
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this is really akin to Verizon deciding what numbers you can and can't call from your phone.
So I'm unwillingly compelled to be the telecom admin for our company, and we use RingCentral for our VoIP provider.
RingCentral does block what numbers you can and can't call from your account. We've encountered it while doing business with customers in Puerto Rico, Portugal, and Ireland. I have to go out of my way to get a company officer to sign a stack of paperwork authorizing us to dial certain prefixes in those countries.
Mind you, my company caters software to some of the largest law firms in the world. We're not calling back alley abortion clinics or brothels or something. These are multinational law firms with hundreds of timekeepers at a minimum, usually thousands.
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It's not banned on Android, it's banned from the play store like an ungodly number of other apps that don't meet it's guidelines. But yes, unlike apple apps can be side loaded on Android devices. Least on my Samsung it gives me the option when I download the app and go to install it, it's quite simple. Once you've done your thing I recommend setting it back to the default to insure apps you didn't intend to load onto your device can't. The app still works fine, it's the install of the app that requires the permission, not running it once it is installed.
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Yes. The APK file can be downloaded and installed locally on your phone.
https://www.apkfiles.com/
https://www.apkmirror.com/
Searches on both these sites do not show the Parler apk. It looks like the ban on Parler is spreading.
You can download the parler-release.apk file from their website. I managed to install it on my Android phone.
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A lot of folks are migrating from Parlor to GAB
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Also, Signal is probably the most secure SMS app: https://www.signal.org/
Brave is probably the best browser, it comes with Tor built in.
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Also, Signal is probably the most secure SMS app: https://www.signal.org/
Brave is probably the best browser, it comes with Tor built in.
I just saw Elon Musk is telling all his followers to go to Signal. With that and other stuff I've seen him do of late, it seems he has taken the red pill.
As mentioned elsewhere, I'm trying out different browsers on my new computer to see if I want to switch from Firefox. This week was Edge, next week is Brave. I just installed it today, but what is up with that "earning BATs in your wallet" thing? That doesn't seem very private to me.
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but what is up with that "earning BATs in your wallet" thing? That doesn't seem very private to me.
As I understand it, it's a way for websites to get paid for ads that you have some control over, as opposed to the google ads where they everything about your internet use is made available to anyone. I've still got it turned off.
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https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1347966181769048065
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JUST IN – Amazon employees call for the company to cut ties with #Parler. The website and app are hosted on Amazon's cloud hosting platform AWS.
— Disclose.tv 🚨 (@disclosetv) January 9, 2021
‘Employees’ of Amazon, which hosts Parler, asking company to cut ties with the Twitter alternative
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/09/employees-of-amazon-which-hosts-parler-asking-company-to-cut-ties-with-the-twitter-alternative/
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‘Employees’ of Amazon, which hosts Parler, asking company to cut ties with the Twitter alternative
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/09/employees-of-amazon-which-hosts-parler-asking-company-to-cut-ties-with-the-twitter-alternative/
Somebody better hurry and develop and advertise some decentralized alternatives before it's too late to even figure out where to go next because everyone has been censored. At the rate they're going, all the AWS type of servers and hosting services will have banned everything within the next 48 hours.
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Speaking of, how is APS situated?
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Speaking of, how is APS situated?
Sitting on servers owned by folks who are known to host pro-freedom pro-2A stuff...
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So we might just be talking to ourselves.
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And Parlor is gone from Apple. It might be gone all together if Amazon decides to just scrub it off the server.
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And Parlor is gone from Apple. It might be gone all together if Amazon decides to just scrub it off the server.
As of a few minutes ago:
Sunday (tomorrow) at midnight Amazon will be shutting off all of our servers in an attempt to completely remove free speech off the internet. There is the possibility Parler will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch. We prepared for events like this by never relying on amazons proprietary infrastructure and building bare metal products.
We will try our best to move to a new provider right now as we have many competing for our business, however Amazon, Google and Apple purposefully did this as a coordinated effort knowing our options would be limited and knowing this would inflict the most damage right as President Trump was banned from the tech companies.
This was a coordinated attack by the tech giants to kill competition in the market place. We were too successful too fast. You can expect the war on competition and free speech to continue, but don’t count us out.
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How would this not be an actionable antitrust issue? Multiple businesses working together to eliminate competition.
I doubt our current government would go after them but damn.
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Need to add Amazon to the list of evil. Parler is hosted on Amazon servers and they are kicking them off.
Time to dump amazon prime.
ETA - I have now canceled my Amazon prime account.
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Facebook is now banning patriotic T-shirt companies from advertising. I'm watching an interview with one of the companies right now. They were banned for a specific T-shirt that shows the Gadsden snake with the words "Make Us" underneath.
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Well, I was just thinking. Aside from what big tech is doing with Parler right now, for once, I was right about something in the overall theme: The Cloud is bad. When Amazon can remove music I purchased (rented I guess); when Amazon can access my Kindle anytime and change the text of books I've bought, or edit movies and other media I bought to meet their cultural mores, that's bad. When Microsoft tries to convince me to leave backup images of my computer on the Cloud for "better security" but then maybe decides they don't like my politics, so I no longer have access to that (same with any data left with anyone anywhere on the Cloud), or they perhaps even give it to a government that doesn't like "my kind", that's bad.
The Cloud is bad.
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The Cloud is bad.
Relying on the good graces of other people/companies is bad.
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There are no safe or secure comms.
Participating on the internet and using cell phones gives the information aggregators a pretty good picture of who you are without even having to assign anyone to research you.
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There are no safe or secure comms.
Participating on the internet and using cell phones gives the information aggregators a pretty good picture of who you are without even having to assign anyone to research you.
And where to find you and where you've been.
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Relying on the good graces of other people/companies is bad.
Now y'all finally understand the Amish motto.
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Parler isn't safe either. Obviously not backed by Android/Google/AWS/Microsoft, someone downloaded 80TB of user data.
Some of this includes sensitive content of "verified accounts" such as images of drivers licenses.
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/social-networking/news/80tb-parler-posts-photos-videos-leaked-by-security-researchers-law-enforcement-can-use-to-identify-january-6-attackers-2350920
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Here is a little help from googletube to de-google your phone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSCmT5S-2w
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Parler isn't safe either. Obviously not backed by Android/Google/AWS/Microsoft, someone downloaded 80TB of user data.
Some of this includes sensitive content of "verified accounts" such as images of drivers licenses.
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/social-networking/news/80tb-parler-posts-photos-videos-leaked-by-security-researchers-law-enforcement-can-use-to-identify-january-6-attackers-2350920
I'm not sure the figure is correct. 80TB is an awful lot of bits.
Still disconcerting for anyone who had a Parler account.
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How long before they start removing channels like Forgotten Weapons etc.. for showing how guns work?
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It looks like Parler is gone for good. No one is willing to host them after Amazon dropped them. Hosts that had agreed to provide backup hosting should Amazon have a problem will not take them. Even hosts that Parler had agreements with to take them in the event that they were taken off Amazon for political reasons are now refusing to talk to them.
Fox News story, an interview of Parler CEO John Matze by Maria Bartiromo, at the Youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6weryikO5o&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6weryikO5o&feature=youtu.be)
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Sign of times to come?
Others have been talking about using Lockdown for comms but Signal looks interesting as well.
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It looks like Parler is gone for good. No one is willing to host them after Amazon dropped them. Hosts that had agreed to provide backup hosting should Amazon have a problem will not take them. Even hosts that Parler had agreements with to take them in the event that they were taken off Amazon for political reasons are now refusing to talk to them.
Fox News story, an interview of Parler CEO John Matze by Maria Bartiromo, at the Youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6weryikO5o&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6weryikO5o&feature=youtu.be)
Do they need a host? Of course at some point they need a connection to the Internet even if they have their own servers.
ETA: I just tried to load parler.com and I got a DNS error. That's scary. If their hosting service is gone, they should still have an IP address (they leased it) and I shoulda received a timeout error. So it looks like ICANN is in on this.
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Sign of times to come?
Others have been talking about using Lockdown for comms but Signal looks interesting as well.
Lockdown? URL? Search is no help
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https://www.getlockdown.com/individuals/ (https://www.getlockdown.com/individuals/)
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AR-15 forum just got shut down
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AR-15 forum just got shut down
Definitely can't get to them right now. Does anyone know who hosts them?
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AR-15 forum just got shut down
Which one? ARfcom and M4Carbine.net are still up.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Fpqp4lZ.jpg)
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This is going faster than I expected.
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Their backup site doesn't seem to be working either. I never go to that forum, but I would like to go to their alternate site to read up on what happened.
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Entertainingly, the backup doesn't work for me, but https://ar15.com still does.
ETA: the tab at the top says "AR15-backup" so maybe there's some sort of blind redirect going on.
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Entertainingly, the backup doesn't work for me, but https://ar15.com still does.
ETA: the tab at the top says "AR15-backup" so maybe there's some sort of blind redirect going on.
Does not work for me. They may be in the middle of something migration-wise that's turning them on and off.
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The twitter account that LennyJoe quoted says:
Some folks are still connecting to our servers from our normal http://ar15.com domain, but that's going to end eventually. DNS will eventually stop looking up the correct location of the server.
Bookmark our backup URL - https://ar15-backup.com Left pointing backhand index
So I guess that's what I'm getting.
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The twitter account that LennyJoe quoted says:
So I guess that's what I'm getting.
Clicking the latter works for me, but it takes me to a weirdo page with accept/cancel options.
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What about us here, TFL or THR?
Any danger of us getting dumped?
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Clicking the latter works for me, but it takes me to a weirdo page with accept/cancel options.
Scroll down
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Scroll down
Oh. :facepalm: :laugh:
Still some wonky stuff though.
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They got Ron Paul too.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/01/11/now-the-libertarians-facebook-blocks-ron-paul-from-managing-his-own-page-claiming-it-goes-against-community-standards/
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What about us here, TFL or THR?
Any danger of us getting dumped?
Supposedly APS is hosted somewhere 2A dedicated.
Doesn't matter if ICANN or the upstream ISP (AT&T, ComCast, Level 3, Cogent, etc) decide to shut off routing to your IP, or delist your DNS.
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They got Ron Paul too.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/01/11/now-the-libertarians-facebook-blocks-ron-paul-from-managing-his-own-page-claiming-it-goes-against-community-standards/
This is not going to help calm people down.
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https://thehill.com/policy/technology/533644-parler-sues-amazon-asks-court-to-reinstate-platform
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https://thehill.com/policy/technology/533644-parler-sues-amazon-asks-court-to-reinstate-platform
Pretty biased reporting by The Hill on this one.
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Pretty biased reporting by The Hill on this one.
like this?
It also follows Wednesday's deadly, Trump-inspired insurrection at the U.S. Capitol that left five people dead.
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Google doesn't have to own a particular server service to mess with them, all they have to do is threaten to remove from search results from google any links pointing to that server including retailers if they don't do as goggle wants them to. There some lawsuits over this a few years ago where IIRC google basically said "And? What are you going to about it?" and the lawsuits as far as I know disappeared.
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Supposedly APS is hosted somewhere 2A dedicated.
Doesn't matter if ICANN or the upstream ISP (AT&T, ComCast, Level 3, Cogent, etc) decide to shut off routing to your IP, or delist your DNS.
Our problem, IMO, is that we are hosted on the same servers as Calguns. While we're a little fish nobody knows about, Calguns is as big as arfcom, and we could always be sucked down in the undertow if the Calguns ship gets sunk.
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As I just posted on The Firing Line, I cannot open TFL in the edge browser on my company laptop because it is blocked (chrome and presumably firefox work just fine) That's even at home on my own network and the VPN is not running. That started before last week; I don't know when. So somebody knows about TFL and has them on a shitlist even tho' no political talk is allowed there and discussion of anything even remotely illegal (even if it shouldn't be) gets shut down immediately.
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As I just posted on The Firing Line, I cannot open TFL in the edge browser on my company laptop because it is blocked (chrome and presumably firefox work just fine) That's even at home on my own network and the VPN is not running. That started before last week; I don't know when. So somebody knows about TFL and has them on a shitlist even tho' no political talk is allowed there and discussion of anything even remotely illegal (even if it shouldn't be) gets shut down immediately.
You will never pass their purity test. You are their enemy and they have declared war on you.
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The filing also claims that BuzzFeed posted its story on Parler being kicked of Amazon’s servers over an hour-and-a-half before Parler itself received an email from Amazon, “meaning AWS leaked the letter to BuzzFeed before sending it to Parler.”
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/11/dana-loesch-is-twitter-exploiting-the-capitol-riot-to-off-a-competitor/
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Gab getting nuked in 10,9,8,7............
For months we have been backing up every reply to Donald Trump’s tweets. We call this project the Liberal Hate Machine.
It conducts sentiment analysis to detect threats of violence, slurs, and more.
There’s A LOT.
It’s searchable too.
Stay tuned. 😎
— Gab.com (@getongab) January 10, 2021
‘Tick tock libs’: Gab unveils its project called the Liberal Hate Machine compiling threats, slurs, and more
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/11/tick-tock-libs-gab-unveils-its-project-called-the-liberal-hate-machine-compiling-threats-slurs-and-more/
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It remains unclear specifically what content allegedly violated the registrar’s terms of service. However, I am happy to report that we have found a new, First Amendment-friendly site registrar and we have begun the process of transitioning AR15.com to the new registrar.
We expect the switchover to take up to 5 days. During that time, our famous “AR15.com” URL will not be usable. Once the switchover is complete, AR15.com will be fully restored to normal function.
AR15.com’s Backup Site is Live, Switching to First Amendment-Friendly Site Registrar
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar15-coms-backup-site-is-live-switching-to-first-amendment-friendly-site-registrar/
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Gab getting nuked in 10,9,8,7............
‘Tick tock libs’: Gab unveils its project called the Liberal Hate Machine compiling threats, slurs, and more
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/11/tick-tock-libs-gab-unveils-its-project-called-the-liberal-hate-machine-compiling-threats-slurs-and-more/
Also Known As: So you want to play the doxing game? We can play the doxing game too.
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Lou Dobbs on the subject:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7od8fOMWtt4R/
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Rumor has it Parler found a new host and should be back up shortly
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Parler is back . . . sort of:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/parlers-website-back-online-with-a-message-from-its-ceo_3660235.html
Nothing on parler.com except a blurb about "technical difficulties" and a very brief message from John Matze. Looks like a placeholder.
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Gateway Pundit now permabanned on Twitter.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/twitter-permanently-suspends-the-gateway-pundit-account_3687947.html
In other news, Trump is looking at starting a social media platform. He might just be doing Trump talk, but it would be fun to see. Hopefully he would use offshore servers.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-mulling-whether-to-launch-own-social-media-platform-says-jason-miller_3687925.html
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James O'Keefe and Veritas now banned on Twitter.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/02/11/theyre-just-telling-on-themselves-at-this-point-twitter-locks-both-james-okeefe-and-project-veritas-accounts/