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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Lennyjoe on January 12, 2021, 11:45:47 PM
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Looks like Mitch is gonna put the final dagger in the Republican Party if he goes along with it.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-believes-trump-committed-impeachable-offenses-supports-democrats-impeachment-efforts-report.amp?__twitter_impression=true (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-believes-trump-committed-impeachable-offenses-supports-democrats-impeachment-efforts-report.amp?__twitter_impression=true)
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Didn't Mcconnell say just a few days ago that impeachment would be dead on arrival in the Senate?
Given that the story originated with the New York Times and is from the usual unnamed sources, it probably isn't worth the electrons that were sacrificed to publish it.
Then again, McConnell is first and foremost a swamp creature that has never cared much for Trump, so maybe there is something to the story. It's hard to tell what is the truth anymore.
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Liz Chenney also supports impeachment. Pelosi made Swalwell an impeachment boss.
They're all dirty.
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The Swalwell appointed surprised me. Isn’t he the commie lover?
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The Swalwell appointed surprised me. Isn’t he the commie lover?
If by commie lover you mean had sex with a Chinese spy, then yes.
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Mitch is wealthy due to his connections to a Chinese government/bank financed ocean transportation company. He is married to the founders/"owners" daughter.
I wasn't aware of the China connection before and figured she was OK because they are Taiwanese. Now I'm not so sure.
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The Swalwell appointed surprised me. Isn’t he the commie lover?
This is just rubbing it in our face.
The traitor Swalwell is still on the intel committee and is/was literally in bed with a chicom spy.
WTF!!
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This is just rubbing it in our face.
The traitor Swalwell is still on the intel committee and is/was literally in bed with a chicom spy.
WTF!!
THEY
DONT
CARE
They KNOW we wont do anything. They dont care. no amount of corruption or treason will have any effect
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THEY
DONT
CARE
They KNOW we wont do anything. They dont care. no amount of corruption or treason will have any effect
Yep, people will keep voting in the incumbents until they retire.
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The last election here it was a choice between Mitch and McGrath. McGrath is basically an AOC that looks like Bruce Jenner.
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The last election here it was a choice between Mitch and McGrath. McGrath is basically an AOC that looks like Bruce Jenner
Primaries are a good way to get rid of an incumbent.
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Primaries are a good way to get rid of an incumbent.
Agree but I could be wrong but I don't recall anyone even running against Mitch.
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The election was pretty much hold your nose and fill in the circle
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The election was pretty much hold your nose and fill in the circle
... like most elections.
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Agree but I could be wrong but I don't recall anyone even running against Mitch.
That needs to change, everyone should be challenged.
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That needs to change, everyone should be challenged.
Elections don’t and won’t matter
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I hate to think of the fall out if Republicans help impeach Trump. I am sure I won't vote for any again that vote for it. Not sure beyond that.
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I hate to think of the fall out if Republicans help impeach Trump. I am sure I won't vote for any again that vote for it. Not sure beyond that.
I'm now reading all kinds of weird *expletive deleted*it about how there were gunfights between LE and rioters, that tasers were deployed against gov employees, and that R reps are reporting they won't vote for impeachment because there are documented death threats against them and their children if they do.
It's getting to the point that if I'm not at a place and see something with my own eyes, I'm simply not going to believe it, whoever reports it.
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It's getting to the point that if I'm not at a place and see something with my own eyes, I'm simply not going to believe it, whoever reports it.
That sounds reasonable. Too many lies from mainstream sources, too much weird stuff out there from non-mainstream sources.
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But the lies are swaying the vast majority against those with sound minds. BTw, Pelosi got her wish. Congress just approved impeachment. We’ll see what the Senate does, if anything.
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But the lies are swaying the vast majority against those with sound minds. BTw, Pelosi got her wish. Congress just approved impeachment. We’ll see what the Senate does, if anything.
I had figured impeachment would be dropped if it wasn't done before Biden takes office. However, I heard someone say they were planning to keep at it and try to impeach him afterwards. Supposedly one of Andrew Johnson's (?) cabinet secretaries was impeached after stepping down.
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The House just voted to impeach.
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-effort-live-updates/2021/01/13/956449072/house-impeaches-trump-a-2nd-time-citing-insurrection-at-u-s-capitol?utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com
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https://www.npr.org/2021/01/12/956145776/forbes-editor-warns-against-hiring-press-secretaries-from-trump-administration
Forbes Editor Warns Against Hiring Press Secretaries From Trump Administration
Lots of nastiness. We will see how much of this is actually done. This crap leads to a lot of other bad stuff.
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a note Wednesday to his fellow Republican senators that he is undecided on whether President Donald Trump should be convicted if the House votes to impeach him.
McConnell said in the letter Wednesday: “While the press has been full of speculation, I have not made a final decision on how I will vote and I intend to listen to the legal arguments when they are presented to the Senate.”
https://www.wlky.com/article/mcconnell-says-he-hasnt-made-final-decision-on-president-trump-impeachment-vote/35206055
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Where can I find a list of people who voted for it?
Ten Republicans broke party ranks to vote in favor of impeachment, including Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, who chairs the House Republican Conference.
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Where can I find a list of people who voted for it?
Not a full list, but here's the Rs who voted in favor:
Joining Cheney in support of impeachment were GOP Reps. Dan Newhouse of Washington, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, John Katko of New York, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, Tom Rice of South Carolina, David Valadao of California and Peter Meijer of Michigan.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-impeaches-president-trump-second-time
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Spineless weasel GOP
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533953-gop-lawmakers-introduce-resolution-to-censure-trump-over-capitol-attack
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The nice thing about all the unpleasantness is that the masks are coming off, the curtains are dropping and people are forcibly becoming aware... hopefully... of the reality they live under. And becoming aware is the first step!
I think they went full commie too fast, too soon. You never go full commie in 'Merica :laugh:
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I think they went full commie too fast, too soon. You never go full commie in 'Merica :laugh:
Normally I would agree with that, but I have been surprised by those on the right that are appeasing the angry mob. Even Crenshaw in Texas seems to be agreeing with them even though he himself didn't vote for impeachment.
I really seem to be seeing the temper tantrum children of antifa getting everything they want because their parents don't want to make a scene in the store aisle.
I just read they are now arresting capitol "rioters" even if they weren't rioters. People just standing there doing nothing have been arrested only, it seems, because their faces were caught in the background of a photo. Charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct and arrested by the FBI anti-terrorism task force*. Further, a teenage daughter just turned her parents in for being there.
*Where was this task force for all of 2020? Everyone in this incident is being arrested for serious felonies, even if they were simply there. Seems like 90% of the 1% or so of antifa that were arrested were charged with stuff like misdemeanor mischief if they were not outright released, for doing stuff like destroying buildings and sending people to the hospital.
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Anyone who did not publicly oppose and condemn the leftist political violence has absolutely no standing to be condemning the capitol riot, however it is entirely morally consistent for people like me to be opposed to the capitol riot. And however I feel about the people who are currently hypocritically lecturing us on how unprecedented the riot was, I do ultimately agree with them that it was dumb, wrong, counterproductive, and I agree that the people who participated in violence and destruction of property should be prosecuted.
The Landry/Rokita/Knudsen letter providing counterpoint to the National Association of Attorneys General letter was a good take on this, but Rokita's and Landry's individual letters sent to the NAAG were even better.
Rokita letter:
Dear Fellow Attorneys General:
This week I was sworn in as Indiana's 44th Attorney General. I am proud to join your ranks and look forward to sharing our experiences and ideas for protecting and defending our states and thus our nation as a whole.
I appreciated being invited to sign the letter coordinated by the National Association of Attorneys General (NAAG) bearing many of your signatures. I certainly join you in the condemnation of the outrageous violence at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. I lament the violation of personal safety and destruction of property. And most of all, I mourn with you the unnecessary loss of precious life the events of that day wrought.
Instead of signing your letter, though, I have chosen to communicate with each of you via this letter. That is because I cannot help but wonder where your level of outrage was, as a group, when cities across our country burned last summer. Indianapolis, my own state capital, suffered days of destruction as windows were shattered and businesses were shuttered, many of which will never open again. Cities such as Portland were 'occupied' by lawlessness and anarchy which eventually erupted into violence. Yet no NAAG-coordinated letter (sign-on letter) condemning the violence last summer appears to have ever been issued.
We must condemn violence in all forms with our loudest voices. It does not matter what political protest is at the root of the violence. As patriots, we must speak out against it. We can uphold the critical Constitutional right to freedom of speech as we oppose any attempt to highjack a protest to condemn violence.
I look forward to collaborating with you in the future in a bipartisan fashion to defend liberty, champion life, and support law enforcement.
Landry letter:
https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/cb/d7/0d7601514d918e75f1ecf6a37278/ag-jeff-landry-letter-on-us-capitol-protests.pdf
Landry/Rokita/Knudsen letter
Dear Acting Attorney General Rosen,
We write to echo and emphasize our colleagues’ condemnation of the violent breach of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. Such an abhorrent act is an affront to our nation, and we commend the United States Department of Justice for taking expedient steps toward prosecution. Attorneys General are called to lead by and to the rule of law in pursuit of justice and equality.
We should all – collectively – decry political violence in every instance. The culture war is no longer a cold one, and it’s heating rapidly. The last several years have seen an assassination attempt that left Representative Steve Scalise fighting for his life, bombs mailed to public figures and detonated in city centers, buildings or entire blocks taken or held by force, and mass demonstrations that led to destruction, injury, and death. Our people and police officers are targeted and killed, our courthouses and churches burned, and the seat of our nation’s government was breached by an angry mob.
Like all Americans, we seek clarity and direction toward a bright future. Like all of you, we believe the rule of law clearly leads to harmony. But until we Attorneys General stand together against all political violence, we amplify aimless partisan wandering instead of taking strides toward unity. When Antifa or like-minded rioters stoked violence on college campuses, we did not have the strength to unify. Now they stoke violence in our streets as we wonder where all this chaos started. And truly, regardless of where or when it started, it’s time for it to end.
Whether committed against person or property, every act of violence injures real people, including our neighbors, friends, and family. In all forms and in all instances, violent acts carried out in the name of political ideology have no place in any of our United States.
We thank you for leading the Department in this unprecedented time and for your work to bring justice against all of those who commit political violence. Every such act leaves a lasting, painful scar on our people. Together, we can lead to unity and peace.
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I'm now reading all kinds of weird *expletive deleted*it about how there were gunfights between LE and rioters, that tasers were deployed against gov employees, and that R reps are reporting they won't vote for impeachment because there are documented death threats against them and their children if they do.
It's getting to the point that if I'm not at a place and see something with my own eyes, I'm simply not going to believe it, whoever reports it.
E.A. Poe: "Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see."
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My problem with some of what I saw Republicans say is they seemed to go out of their way to condemn the mob going into the Capitol without pointing out that there were hundreds of thousands who were in town, but did not go inside. I saw Steve Scalise' statement and he appeared to be condemning all Trump supporters if all you saw was the headline quote. It wasn't that bad if you read more. I just thought they could have chose their words better.
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I saw Steve Scalise' statement and he appeared to be condemning all Trump supporters if all you saw was the headline quote. It wasn't that bad if you read more. I just thought they could have chose their words better.
How much of that is due to the speaker and how much is due to the reporter?
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Interesting question by Brian Mast:
The breach, which was criticized by Trump himself and other top White House officials, occurred during the Joint Session of Congress to count electoral votes.
“Has any one of those individuals who brought violence on this Capitol been brought here to answer whether they did that because of our president?” Mast asked.
About 30 seconds of silence followed as Mast stared ahead.
“It appears I will receive no answer,” said Mast, an Afghanistan War veteran who lost both his legs, after the period of awkward silence.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/rep-brian-masts-capitol-breach-question-stumps-house-during-trump-impeachment-vote_3658082.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink&st=MjYnPs5mk6zdG9l1y6sOZ07UQHuIoQRg-x24m0oIOUmAsNh8M8Z6sgdb2hlwd4gIVyjJPAuqwdlB0bFDor_ROno2qzXlqPtKVPs