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Title: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on January 18, 2021, 04:40:04 PM
https://legiscan.com/or/text/hb2238/id/2235373

No, that's not a bill that will be ripe for overreach and wide open to abuse at all!!!

(sorry for slagging everyone's sarcasm detector with that last sentence).

Every day I get more and more tempted to leave this state.    [barf]
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: MechAg94 on January 18, 2021, 05:36:17 PM
Not wanting to read the whole thing, is that saying they can seize whatever they want without compensation during time of emergency?
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: WLJ on January 18, 2021, 05:43:42 PM
Not wanting to read the whole thing, is that saying they can seize whatever they want without compensation during time of emergency?

Well we are in the mist of a Race Inequally Crises according to Biden so......
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: Boomhauer on January 18, 2021, 05:51:14 PM
Not wanting to read the whole thing, is that saying they can seize whatever they want without compensation during time of emergency?

Possibly including labor??!!??
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: sumpnz on January 18, 2021, 06:17:28 PM
Not wanting to read the whole thing, is that saying they can seize whatever they want without compensation during time of emergency?

Only if seized temporarily.  Of course, temporary can be a fairly loose term.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 18, 2021, 10:26:34 PM
Not wanting to read the whole thing, is that saying they can seize whatever they want without compensation during time of emergency?

That appears to be the gist of it.

On its face, the bill seems to have some serious conflicts with that musty old Constitution the liberals keep wanting to convince us is obsolete. Something about an amendment, or something like that. Oh, let's just pick one -- how about the 5th?

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...  nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: Fjolnirsson on January 19, 2021, 01:32:23 AM
And yes, it certainly appears to legalize slavery temporarily during an emergency.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: K Frame on January 19, 2021, 07:12:02 AM
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Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: 230RN on January 19, 2021, 10:50:47 AM
Seems like the same provisions as in the old federal Patriot Act ca ~2005? If I recall correctly, under a declaration of an emergency by a committee comprised of the President, House Speaker, Vice President, etc., it made the President a total dictator with no restrictions.

Anyhow, it would have been nice to have at least a bullet list of its provisions.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: WLJ on January 19, 2021, 10:53:46 AM
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Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: WLJ on January 20, 2021, 11:17:22 AM
...  nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

They'll gladly give you $50 back of what you paid in taxes for that $2,000 EBR and if you disagree they'll take it anyway and you can forget all about that $50.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: 230RN on January 20, 2021, 11:46:53 AM
Fair market value.

If it's illegal to sell, it has no fair market value.

Therefore, $zero.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: PEfarmer on January 23, 2021, 01:21:39 AM
I see your hb2238 and raise you sb619: cash reparations from the state to any black person who can document slavery in their ancestry. $123000 lifetime annuity. These people are batshit crazy.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: Fly320s on January 23, 2021, 06:29:47 AM
I see your hb2238 and raise you sb619: cash reparations from the state to any black person who can document slavery in their ancestry. $123000 lifetime annuity. These people are batshit crazy.

I identify as a black descendent of slaves.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2021, 07:56:39 AM
I see your hb2238 and raise you sb619: cash reparations from the state to any black person who can document slavery in their ancestry. $123000 lifetime annuity. These people are batshit crazy.

Biden just killed the 1776 initiative, and has reinstituted mandatory critical race theory for fed.gov.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: HankB on January 23, 2021, 12:57:06 PM
Biden just killed the 1776 initiative, and has reinstituted mandatory critical race theory for fed.gov.
Biden's nominee for Transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, apparently has racist highways in his sights.

https://www.gopusa.com/biden-administration-may-target-racist-highways/

(Maybe he was triggered when he heard the highway surfaces were called Blacktop.)
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: MechAg94 on January 23, 2021, 02:37:26 PM
So when they say "destroy the racist highway", do they mean remove the portion through that neighborhood or the entire highway even outside the city?

A better plan might be to require eminent domain to pay double or more the property value when seizing land.  Then all the influencial guys would be lobbying to get the highway run through their property. 
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2021, 02:46:09 PM

(Maybe he was triggered when he heard the highway surfaces were called Blacktop.)

Highways of Color Tops
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: 230RN on January 23, 2021, 03:32:58 PM
Double post again.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Just when I think it can't get any nuttier, Oregon democrats say 'hold my beer..
Post by: 230RN on January 24, 2021, 12:14:26 PM
So when they say "destroy the racist highway", do they mean remove the portion through that neighborhood or the entire highway even outside the city?

A better plan might be to require eminent domain to pay double or more the property value when seizing land.  Then all the influencial guys would be lobbying to get the highway run through their property.]/b] 

Like.  Won't steal it, but I like it.