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Title: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 18, 2021, 08:16:50 PM
Vancouver politician doesn't like pickup trucks:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/politician-says-pickup-trucks-glorify-violence-and-dominion-questions-male-truck-owners-masculinity-but-then-gets-angry-when-they-question-his

Best comment so far:
"You seem like a really irritating person to be around."



Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to know I own one.  Unfortunately it's not one of those diesels belching clouds of black smoke.

Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Fjolnirsson on January 18, 2021, 08:57:36 PM
 Pickup trucks glorify being able to tackle basic home improvement remedies on one's own. Good luck bringing home awkwardly shaped/heavy loads in a prius.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 18, 2021, 09:39:18 PM
I wonder how many trips I would have had to make to haul that 1/3 cord of oak firewood I brought home today if I had to drive a Prius?
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: 230RN on January 18, 2021, 09:56:19 PM
Widdle Bubble Thinking.  Anything outside my widdle bubble of Prius and Tofu is simply not needed and at worst, ewwy and dangerous.

I swear, sometimes I think these people are still at the stage of mental development as when a child thinks a nickel is more valuable than a dime because it's bigger.

Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 18, 2021, 10:20:17 PM
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In a later thread, Bond said that owners and operators of such trucks are simply trying to reinforce their masculinity.

Thank goodness. I thought the prevailing wisdom was that guns were necessary for men to reinforce their masculinity. I'm so relieved to know that I can now accomplish that just by driving a pickup truck, as opposed to owning an icky GUN!
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Ben on January 19, 2021, 08:20:52 AM
So women don't drive pickups? In that case, there are a ton of cross-dressers around here.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: dogmush on January 19, 2021, 09:15:09 AM
I currently have TWO pickup trucks!!  What does that say about me, I wonder.

(Also, anyone want to buy a F150?)
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2021, 09:15:45 AM
I currently have TWO pickup trucks!!  What does that say about me, I wonder.

(Also, anyone want to buy a F150?)

How much?
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: dogmush on January 19, 2021, 09:19:07 AM
How much?

You probably don't want it, it's 2WD.  In fact, it's for sale because SWMBO and I had it up in snow, ice, and mountain forest roads for Christmas and decided our camping rig needed to turn the front wheels as well.

But $6k.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Ben on January 19, 2021, 09:41:03 AM
You probably don't want it, it's 2WD.  In fact, it's for sale because SWMBO and I had it up in snow, ice, and mountain forest roads for Christmas and decided our camping rig needed to turn the front wheels as well.

But $6k.

I'm gonna hate it whenever I decide to sell my current F150. It has performed well, and with the new tires I put on this year I've been comfortable driving it in most Southern Idaho Winter weather, but nobody, and I mean nobody, sells 2WD drive trucks in this state. I'll probably have to take a significant hit on it when I sell.

Though I happened to look just for the heck of it a few weeks ago, and new F150 XLTs exactly like mine except in 4WD are, with incentives, going for the same price I paid for mine in 2016. Toyota Tundras on the other hand - holy moly are they expensive right now!
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2021, 09:54:14 AM
I haven't owned anything that wasn't all wheel or four wheel drive in a long time.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: dogmush on January 19, 2021, 10:16:55 AM
I'm gonna hate it whenever I decide to sell my current F150. It has performed well, and with the new tires I put on this year I've been comfortable driving it in most Southern Idaho Winter weather, but nobody, and I mean nobody, sells 2WD drive trucks in this state. I'll probably have to take a significant hit on it when I sell.

Though I happened to look just for the heck of it a few weeks ago, and new F150 XLTs exactly like mine except in 4WD are, with incentives, going for the same price I paid for mine in 2016. Toyota Tundras on the other hand - holy moly are they expensive right now!

Tundra's are always expensive.  Toyota's are good vehicles, but they are still trading on the reputation from the 90's.  They aren't that much better than the competition anymore.

Honestly, pickup trucks in general are just expensive.  I know a lot of people use them as daily drivers instead of solely work vehicles, and that brings more refinement and comforts into the segment, but dang, even used trucks ain't cheap.  The flip side to that is the '14 FX4 Ecoboost I just picked up is a really nice vehicle to ride in.  And kinda stupid fast for a truck.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Ben on January 19, 2021, 11:00:59 AM
Tundra's are always expensive.  Toyota's are good vehicles, but they are still trading on the reputation from the 90's.  They aren't that much better than the competition anymore.

Honestly, pickup trucks in general are just expensive.  I know a lot of people use them as daily drivers instead of solely work vehicles, and that brings more refinement and comforts into the segment, but dang, even used trucks ain't cheap.  The flip side to that is the '14 FX4 Ecoboost I just picked up is a really nice vehicle to ride in.  And kinda stupid fast for a truck.

Yeah, they were always more expensive, but I noticed the current new Tundra's, at least for sale here, are even a couple grand higher than I remember from a year ago when I was window shopping, and they have been on the same generation forever.

Which Ecoboost did you end up getting?
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 19, 2021, 11:07:49 AM
I haven't owned anything that wasn't all wheel or four wheel drive in a long time.

Everything I drive except my lawnmower is 4 wheel drive.

Can I get extra toxic masculinity points for driving this?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4841/31169611107_55b3a95811_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pumps4)
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: dogmush on January 19, 2021, 12:57:34 PM
Yeah, they were always more expensive, but I noticed the current new Tundra's, at least for sale here, are even a couple grand higher than I remember from a year ago when I was window shopping, and they have been on the same generation forever.

Which Ecoboost did you end up getting?

3.5.  That's all they had in the generation of trucks I was looking at.  But I like it.  That torque kicks in low.


RKL-

I guess you can have two point, because it's gas, right?  If you had a Deuce and a half you get SJW points because it'll burn bio-fuel.  An M35 is pretty much a Prius.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: MechAg94 on January 19, 2021, 02:20:11 PM
Tundra's are always expensive.  Toyota's are good vehicles, but they are still trading on the reputation from the 90's.  They aren't that much better than the competition anymore.

Honestly, pickup trucks in general are just expensive.  I know a lot of people use them as daily drivers instead of solely work vehicles, and that brings more refinement and comforts into the segment, but dang, even used trucks ain't cheap.  The flip side to that is the '14 FX4 Ecoboost I just picked up is a really nice vehicle to ride in.  And kinda stupid fast for a truck.
I wouldn't say that.  The resale on Toyota's is still one of the highest.  My Tacoma is doing well, but only 2 years old.  1st 4x4 I ever had. 

That said, the 2011 F150 Ecoboost I had was overall good, but had some electrical issues when I traded it in.  Also, spark plugs/boots had to be replaced every 60K miles.  Maybe they fixed that now.  On the other side, the 2003 GMC I had before that was excellent. 
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: MechAg94 on January 19, 2021, 02:21:03 PM
This guy hates pickup trucks....until he has to move then he is calling anyone he knows with a truck. (or hiring someone with a truck)
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Jim147 on January 19, 2021, 04:32:12 PM
My four wheel drive is not working right now. Does that make me more or less violent?
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: MechAg94 on January 19, 2021, 04:41:15 PM
My four wheel drive is not working right now. Does that make me more or less violent?
Mobility Dysfunction?  Don't they make pills for that?  Must be something else.     =)
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Ben on January 19, 2021, 04:44:05 PM
3.5.  That's all they had in the generation of trucks I was looking at.  But I like it.  That torque kicks in low.


I think that's a good choice, especially if you're gonna tow or carry a heavy load. One thing I noticed about my 2.7 on the long trips I have taken with it is that when you hit places where the limit is 80mph, you can definitely see the engine work more on the long stretch. Seems like around 75mph is the cutoff on mine where efficiency degrades quickly. Same with hauling big loads in the back. 3/4 ton of sand is definitely noticeable on how hard the engine works.

I have been told these are non-issues with the 3.5. I have loved everything else about the 2.7, and even those two "negative" things are quite manageable for my uses. If I was doing more heavy lifting over long distance than I do though, the 3.5 would be a better choice, IMO.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Nick1911 on January 19, 2021, 04:59:41 PM
My four wheel drive is not working right now. Does that make me more or less violent?

Mine either.  I'm just now putting the transmission back in, after rebuilding it in the garage.  I was trying to back a redimix cement trailer up a hill, when the torque converter seal decided to fail.  Transmission fluid poured past it, out the inspection port, and onto the exhaust Y pipe.  And caught fire.

Yea, that was a good day.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on January 19, 2021, 05:11:05 PM
What's wrong with being violent and dominating?

Also, apparently I need a pick up truck to fully express myself...
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: charby on January 19, 2021, 06:26:37 PM
Mine either.  I'm just now putting the transmission back in, after rebuilding it in the garage.  I was trying to back a redimix cement trailer up a hill, when the torque converter seal decided to fail.  Transmission fluid poured past it, out the inspection port, and onto the exhaust Y pipe.  And caught fire.

Yea, that was a good day.

Mine was a busted passenger side hub (fixed now, had to replace with manual lockouts), glad I didn't have your day.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Jim147 on January 19, 2021, 06:39:21 PM
I plan on looking at mine this week. Might be as simple as the switch.

Yeah I don't get that lucky.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: charby on January 19, 2021, 07:23:34 PM
I plan on looking at mine this week. Might be as simple as the switch.

Yeah I don't get that lucky.

Whatcha got?
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: MechAg94 on January 19, 2021, 11:15:09 PM
3.5.  That's all they had in the generation of trucks I was looking at.  But I like it.  That torque kicks in low.


RKL-

I guess you can have two point, because it's gas, right?  If you had a Deuce and a half you get SJW points because it'll burn bio-fuel.  An M35 is pretty much a Prius.
I never got more than about 3/4 of the tire life on the tires for that Ecoboost F150 I had.  It was my first vehicle with a turbo and it was hard to avoid taking off too quickly from a stop.  I loved the acceleration at pretty much any speed.
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Boomhauer on January 20, 2021, 09:36:04 AM
They hate pickups because that’s what the flyover state hicks all drive. How dare they, don’t they know they are supposed to live in crowded dirty cities and ride bum infested public transportation???
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: MechAg94 on January 20, 2021, 10:02:37 AM
Also, they refuse to drive one, but they get stuck in traffic behind trucks and they can't see.  Then they rear end the truck because they aren't paying attention.  It totals their car, but truck just has a scratch on the tow hitch. 
Title: Re: Some silly person: pickup trucks glorify violence and "dominion"
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 14, 2021, 06:32:23 PM
He allowed that trucks are necessary in rural areas - so no one needs to haul gravel or building materials in the city? Do the landscapers there use scooters?