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Title: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: zahc on August 12, 2021, 05:15:32 PM
Desantis has banned school mask mandates in Florida. He's being attacked for it pretty bad by people who are suddenly against government overreach when they don't agree with it. I think it's a bad political move which will be reported in the worst possible way.

 The legal question is does the governor control the state public education system? I don't know what authority he actually has.
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: Ben on August 12, 2021, 05:20:52 PM
I saw that some local (I think?) judge ruled that a school district could mandate masks regardless of the gov's order. Seems like there might be a tangle of laws on this one.
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: zahc on August 12, 2021, 05:37:33 PM
So, does that mean that a school district could also defy a mask mandate if he made one?

Or are they only allowed to defy a governor's orders on masks if the order is that masks must be optional, but not if the order is that masks are required? That doesn't seem possible, legally.

Is it a stealth legal strategy to undermine mask mandates?
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 12, 2021, 07:46:31 PM
5-D chess, Florida style.
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 12, 2021, 08:38:01 PM
Meanwhile, in Texas: https://foxsanantonio.com/features/coronavirus/after-texas-officials-defy-his-ban-on-mask-mandates-gov-greg-abbott-begins-to-clamp-down
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 12, 2021, 08:40:14 PM
Oklahoma is dealing with similar issues. The legislature passed and the Governor signed a law banning mask and vaccine mandates by state entities and state schools.
School districts and others are dropping lawsuits like leaves in the Fall challenging the law.
It's gonna be an interesting Autumn here in the Sooner state.
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 12, 2021, 09:23:13 PM

It's gonna be an interesting Autumn here in the Sooner state [formerly] United States.

What a show. In the states with mask mandates, the lawsuits are trying to do away with them. In the states that aren't supposed to have mask mandates, the lawsuits want them.  [popcorn]
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: Pb on August 13, 2021, 11:02:47 AM
What do you all think about  governors banning mask mandates? 
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: zahc on August 13, 2021, 11:40:44 AM
I think Desantis is only banning mandates in schools and maybe state government entities, which may be reasonable and lawful, but IANAL. He's not banning mask wearing. I wouldn't like it if a governor banned mask mandates for private businesses. For exactly the same reason I don't like governors having mask mandates for private businesses. Either way, if the governor has the authority to make a mandate, then he should have the authority to ban mandates or even to bam mask wearing.
Title: Re: The Desantis mandate mandate
Post by: MechAg94 on August 13, 2021, 11:49:55 AM
That is what is going on in Texas also.  Trying to forbid Govt entities from requirement masks or local govts from passing mask mandates.