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Title: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Lennyjoe on September 09, 2021, 09:23:59 AM
Looks like we dodged a bullet….

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chipman-atf-withdraw/2021/09/09/d5804a3a-1108-11ec-a511-cb913c7e5ba0_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chipman-atf-withdraw/2021/09/09/d5804a3a-1108-11ec-a511-cb913c7e5ba0_story.html)
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: MechAg94 on September 09, 2021, 09:43:55 AM
Good to hear.  Makes me nervous about who the next choice will be.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: WLJ on September 09, 2021, 10:10:05 AM
Makes me nervous about who the next choice will be.

Same thought here.
Knowing Ds their takeaway from this will be that he's wasn't anti-gun enough
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Brad Johnson on September 09, 2021, 10:17:31 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chipman-atf-withdraw/2021/09/09/d5804a3a-1108-11ec-a511-cb913c7e5ba0_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chipman-atf-withdraw/2021/09/09/d5804a3a-1108-11ec-a511-cb913c7e5ba0_story.html)

Requires subscription.

Brad
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: WLJ on September 09, 2021, 10:19:48 AM
Requires subscription.

Brad

Try this
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-biden-administration-throws-in-the-towel-withdraws-chipman-nomination-as-atf-director/
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Ben on September 09, 2021, 10:24:36 AM
Try this
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-biden-administration-throws-in-the-towel-withdraws-chipman-nomination-as-atf-director/

Quote from above is spot on. Chipman is simply bizarro Wayne LaPierre (who is actually bizarro Wayne LaPierre, but that's another thread).

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Chipman was always an audacious nomination. Biden trying to install a paid gun control lobbyist to run the nation’s federal firearms regulatory agency was every bit as ballsy as a GOP president nominating Wayne LaPierre. It was always going to provoke tooth-and-nail opposition from the other side, but the White House apparently thought they could brazen it out.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Lennyjoe on September 09, 2021, 10:27:55 AM
Gah, sorry about the WaPo link.  First one that came up and didn’t realize it requires subscription
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Brad Johnson on September 09, 2021, 10:31:19 AM
Fox News has picked up the story.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-pulling-atf-nomination-david-chipman-second-amendment-guns

Brad
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: TommyGunn on September 09, 2021, 12:32:29 PM
Good to hear.  Makes me nervous about who the next choice will be.


Yea ..... maybe someone so antigun he makes Chipman look like an NRA member ...?  ? ?  ?...... :facepalm: [popcorn]
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Bogie on September 09, 2021, 12:55:13 PM
Political appointee - I'd bet Giffords.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Lennyjoe on September 09, 2021, 01:00:29 PM
Gabby and her hubby were pro gun until the incident…..

Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Fly320s on September 09, 2021, 01:58:54 PM
Political appointee - I'd bet Giffords.

Does she have the mental ability to do that job?  Seriously.  She had/has traumatic brain injury which may make her physically unfit for the job.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 09, 2021, 02:13:48 PM
Does she have the mental ability to do that job?  Seriously.  She had/has traumatic brain injury which may make her physically unfit for the job.

You disgusting, misogynist, , ableist bigot! How dare you demand someone be capable doing a job to get appointed to it, particularly a birthing person.
Besides, we have current precedence that shows intact mental facilities are not needed for a position in a democrat administration, they just get a handler/puppet master and go to work.  See how well it's working for Biden...
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Pb on September 09, 2021, 02:30:06 PM
Good to hear.  Makes me nervous about who the next choice will be.

Probably an anti-gun ahole who was smart enough to not have himself photographed with a gun on the smoking ruins of the Waco siege.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: bedlamite on September 09, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
Looks like we dodged a bullet….

Maybe not. Biden looking at another position for him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31LOC67YgY
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Boomhauer on September 09, 2021, 04:59:34 PM
Does she have the mental ability to do that job?  Seriously.  She had/has traumatic brain injury which may make her physically unfit for the job.

Have you not seen Biden?
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 09, 2021, 05:23:23 PM
Beto's up next.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Boomhauer on September 09, 2021, 05:29:43 PM
Beto's up next.

That’s ¡Beto! to you, whitey.

Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Angel Eyes on September 13, 2021, 05:28:48 PM
That’s ¡Beto! to you, whitey.

I just call him Beta.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: T.O.M. on September 13, 2021, 10:01:40 PM
Rumor I heard floating around work is that Chapman was heard telling people at an event that he was a guaranteed appointment, and that within two years of taking office, it would be illegal to touch a gun unless you were in uniform.  The rumor indicates that he said it around some of the Dems who are part of the "we won't take your hunting guns" crowd, who fears a vote confirming him would cost them serious votes from the middle of the spectrum.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Lennyjoe on September 14, 2021, 08:45:22 AM
I could only imagine what would happen if ATF ever tried something like that….. [ar15]
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 14, 2021, 09:07:14 AM
I could only imagine what would happen if ATF ever tried something like that….. [ar15]

When, not if, they finally decide to go that route we can look to Waco and Ruby Ridge to get an idea of how the fed will respond. They've pretty well already told us that they would be willing to use nukes against gun owners. I don't really think some of them are kidding about that.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: MechAg94 on September 14, 2021, 09:14:29 AM
When, not if, they finally decide to go that route we can look to Waco and Ruby Ridge to get an idea of how the fed will respond. They've pretty well already told us that they would be willing to use nukes against gun owners. I don't really think some of them are kidding about that.
That is a good point.  However, it will depend on if there are neighbors nearby that also don't want them taking guns away.  Could go a number of ways. 
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: cordex on September 14, 2021, 09:26:51 AM
It all depends on how slowly they do it.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: dogmush on September 14, 2021, 09:35:10 AM
I feel like people keep forgetting that one of the outcomes of Waco and Ruby Ridge was Oklahoma City.  The 90's was a very different culture, but if anything I think crazy folks going hunting for feds if they feel attacked is more likely now.

I'm not saying I endorse the tactic, but it is a pretty easily foreseeable consequence of Feds (or gods help us UN troops) getting heavy handed.

For that matter it's not confined to the right.  Leftists will flat burn .gov buildings down with agents in them.  "Consent of the governed" is getting pretty damn theoretical.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Ben on September 14, 2021, 10:08:44 AM


For that matter it's not confined to the right.  Leftists will flat burn .gov buildings down with agents in them.

This needs to be repeated. For the left, it goes all the way back to at least the weather underground, and goes beyond just attacking feds.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Pb on September 14, 2021, 10:59:52 PM
I feel like people keep forgetting that one of the outcomes of Waco and Ruby Ridge was Oklahoma City.  The 90's was a very different culture, but if anything I think crazy folks going hunting for feds if they feel attacked is more likely now.

I recall reading that Timothy McVeigh said before his execution that he wished he had killed the man who shot Vicky Weaver instead of blowing up the federal building.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: WLJ on September 15, 2021, 12:35:50 PM
Political appointee - I'd bet Giffords.

Giffords would be a perfect fit

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“The insurrectionists who attacked the US Capitol are the same ones pushing an extremist guns-everywhere agenda,” the tweet states. “For the safety and future of our country, lawmakers need to protect public safety and democracy from extremism and violence.”
Gabby Giffords: America’s Gun Owners Are Insurrectionists and a Threat to Democracy
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gabby-giffords-americas-gun-owners-are-insurrectionists-and-a-threat-to-democracy/
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: brimic on September 16, 2021, 10:45:02 AM
Good. Chipman is a huge pile of excrement.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: WLJ on September 30, 2021, 06:50:32 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Chipman Says His Nomination Was a ‘Gangster Move’ By the White House…Now Feels Abandoned
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/chipman-says-his-nomination-a-gangster-move-by-the-white-house-now-feels-abandoned/
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 30, 2021, 09:06:00 PM
Yeah, a real gangster move - cuz gangsters love it when something they try doesn't work out, and they have to slink away with their tails between their legs. 
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 30, 2021, 09:26:06 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Chipman Says His Nomination Was a ‘Gangster Move’ By the White House…Now Feels Abandoned
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/chipman-says-his-nomination-a-gangster-move-by-the-white-house-now-feels-abandoned/

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“Either this was impossible to win, or the strategy failed,” Chipman told the newspaper, adding, “This was a failure.” Later in the interview, Chipman described nominating someone like him – a lifelong anti-gun activist – as a “gangster move” by White House staff.

I didn't know this was supposed to be about "winning." It has always struck me that an excellent strategy for getting nominees confirmed might be to nominate well-qualified people.

I'm sooooo naive.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2021, 08:38:20 PM
To Repeat the OP, we dodged a bullet.

"The job of the ATF is to stop domestic terrorists"

"It's easier to buy a gun than to buy a beer"


https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/27/president-bidens-atf-nominee-tells-cbs-news-its-easier-to-buy-a-gun-than-a-beer-in-much-of-america/
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: MechAg94 on October 27, 2021, 10:24:18 PM
To Repeat the OP, we dodged a bullet.

"The job of the ATF is to stop domestic terrorists"

"It's easier to buy a gun than to buy a beer"


https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/27/president-bidens-atf-nominee-tells-cbs-news-its-easier-to-buy-a-gun-than-a-beer-in-much-of-america/
I bought a beer at a football game last weekend.  No paperwork.  I didn't even have to show ID since I no longer look anywhere close to 21.  All I had to do was pay for it.  Did my part to get that beer off the streets. 

Saw Texas A&M play in College Station, TX with my brother and niece.  Great game and visit.
Title: Re: WH pulls ATF Chief nominee
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2021, 07:32:06 PM
To Repeat the OP, we dodged a bullet.

"The job of the ATF is to stop domestic terrorists"

"It's easier to buy a gun than to buy a beer"


https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/27/president-bidens-atf-nominee-tells-cbs-news-its-easier-to-buy-a-gun-than-a-beer-in-much-of-america/

It's easier to get a gun than a beer. Or a book. Or a bellhop, maybe? Or whatever starts with a "b," whatever. These lefties are too busy fighting domestic terrorism to worry about the details.