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Title: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2021, 01:54:54 PM
GOP "too dangerous" to run Congress. I think it's going to get even more fun as their polling numbers continue to tank...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-gop-too-dangerous-congress-midterm-pitch-voters

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on November 15, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
Didn't they tried that tack in Virginia?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
Not really.

They tried TRUMP! THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRUMP! ALL TRUMP ALL THE TIME! TTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!

Worked really well for them.

This note from the DCCC appears to have learned something from that debacle. Trump isn't mentioned once in it.

Now they're just painting with the widest possible brush.

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on November 15, 2021, 02:09:09 PM
Didn't one or two of them also double down on schools deciding what is best for your children and the hell with what parents think?  I heard someone suggesting that issue was a big part of the swing in voting.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on November 15, 2021, 02:10:46 PM
As far as the left and dems are concerned GOP = Trump.
Yes we know different but I like to think CNN & MSNBC don't tell us what to think here.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2021, 02:26:27 PM
Didn't one or two of them also double down on schools deciding what is best for your children and the hell with what parents think?  I heard someone suggesting that issue was a big part of the swing in voting.

yes, McAuliffe pretty much doubled down on that, and that turned a LOT of parents against him.

But that happened in September at the last debate.

At that moment Youngkin was still a point or two behind and IIRC it had been pretty stagnant for a few weeks.

That means that McAuliffe, who had been playing the Trump card the whole race to that point, had stalled with that messaging and was, in fact, losing ground on that message. Polling after the election pretty much showed that no, people were no longer recoiling in horror at the spectre of Trump because, well, he's no longer in office...

But when Youngkin took McAuliffe's statement on parents should get no say in what their kids are taught... well, we all know how that ended up.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Bogie on November 15, 2021, 08:35:49 PM
Dangerous? Be careful...
 
The desire for perfect safety has pretty much altered a lot of society in some areas...
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Boomhauer on November 15, 2021, 09:33:22 PM
This dumb *expletive deleted*ck lol

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-orourke-texas-governor-running
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 15, 2021, 09:40:35 PM
This dumb *expletive deleted*ck lol

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-orourke-texas-governor-running

I hope he waste millions of Bezos/Soros/Bloomberg dollars. Not sure they'd back him at this point, though.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on November 15, 2021, 11:42:57 PM
I hope he waste millions of Bezos/Soros/Bloomberg dollars. Not sure they'd back him at this point, though.

The next Governor race in Texas might be more interesting than I want it to be.  Gov. Abbott hasn't been bad, but he wasn't great and kept COVID restrictions around just a bit too long.  The joke is to look at what Desantis does and Abbott will do it 3 weeks later after running it through focus groups.  I hear that Allen West was thinking of running against him, but he just strikes me as Mr. Establishment and hasn't been elected to anything in years.  Not sure who else is running, but some may think Abbott is vulnerable.  Once all that is done, Beto is an after thought.  I can't see how his antics while running for President will help him here in Texas.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: HankB on November 16, 2021, 12:22:11 PM
. . . Once all that is done, Beto is an after thought.  I can't see how his antics while running for President will help him here in Texas.
Maybe he thinks that despite Texas' best efforts, the Feds will enable voting by illegals in the next election . . . combined with the votes of Kali transplants, that might be a problem for the Lone Star State.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: DustinD on November 16, 2021, 12:33:53 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/beto-announces-bid-to-lose-texas-governor-race
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on December 14, 2021, 04:48:08 PM
Are they worried? Maybe

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    Someone asked me at a party the other night how worried I am about the future of the United States, and my response was “I’m not saying that you will need to use this plan. But it is a good idea to have a plan to relocate to a democratic nation where you speak the language.”

    — Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) December 14, 2021
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/12/14/voxs-ian-millhiser-is-warning-people-at-parties-to-have-a-plan-to-relocate-to-a-democratic-nation-where-you-speak-the-language/

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    A note to Democrats who blame progressives after losing an election:

    Forcing millions to start paying student loans again and cutting off the Child Tax Credit at the start of an election year is not a winning strategy.

    We're warning you now, don't point fingers in November.

    — Cori Bush (@CoriBush) December 13, 2021
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/12/14/rep-cori-bush-preemptively-blames-joe-biden-and-moderate-dems-for-losing-in-2022/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on December 14, 2021, 05:44:33 PM
I hate to get overconfident.  It is still nearly a year away. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on December 14, 2021, 06:18:27 PM
I hate to get overconfident.  It is still nearly a year away.

No real reason to expect that the Democrat vote fraud machine will be any less effective for the mid-terms.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: 230RN on December 15, 2021, 01:23:31 AM
No real reason to expect that the Democrat vote fraud machine will be any less effective for the mid-terms.


"But there's no proof of voter fraud."

To which I apply the following logic

There is no proof without evidence.
There is no evidence without investigation.
There is no investigation without suspicion.
But suspicion without proof is paranoid.

So much for the suspicion.  Accusation of "paranoia" is a very effective way of stifling things. They sure wrapped that up in a nice little package.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2021, 08:00:54 AM
Biden using the "party of 'No' " line to dig at Republicans for 2022. The same guy who said "no" by reversing everything Republicans did from 2016-2020 with the most EOs in the history of EOs.

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"I want to tell my Republican friends: Get ready, pal. You’re in for a problem," Biden said, explaining that Republicans are "against everything" and challenging the crowd to name something the GOP is "for."

Also, he's "The perfect President".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-to-dnc-holiday-party-were-going-to-win-in-2022

I also notice these things were said at a ginormous holiday party while they are still telling regular people to avoid holiday gatherings.

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on December 15, 2021, 09:32:17 AM
Look, you stupid bastard, we keep telling you that those rules only apply to you little people, not we woke masters!

Stop whining, put on your mask, and sit alone in your house or you might get a visit from the IRS!
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: DittoHead on December 15, 2021, 09:41:40 AM
There is no proof without evidence.
There is no evidence without investigation.
There is no investigation without suspicion.
But suspicion without proof is paranoid.
Voter fraud? Definitely (https://www.8newsnow.com/i-team/i-team-las-vegas-man-who-gop-highlighted-as-case-of-voter-fraud-to-plead-guilty-to-voting-twice-in-2020-election-using-dead-wifes-ballot/).
Massive fraud that should have invalidated results? Still waiting on that evidence.
There have been investigations and audits though.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MikeB on December 15, 2021, 06:27:38 PM
That moving to another country thing has been going on for a long time. They never seem to do it. Either they must be figuring out that the grass isn’t any greener or discovering it isn’t that easy to emigrate to another country. Most countries are much more strict about immigration than the US is, even most of the shithole ones.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on December 31, 2021, 12:54:21 PM
I hate to get my hopes up but it appears things are shifting hard in the R's favor.
What worriers me though is what the dems could do in the meantime as a scorched earth policy.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 01, 2022, 10:53:25 AM
I hate to get my hopes up but it appears things are shifting hard in the R's favor.
What worriers me thought is what the dems could do in the meantime as a scorched earth policy.

Aren't all their policies scorched earth policies?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: bedlamite on January 01, 2022, 10:57:28 AM
I hate to get my hopes up but it appears things are shifting hard in the R's favor.
What worriers me thought is what the dems could do in the meantime as a scorched earth policy.

Never underestimate the ability of the stupid party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on January 01, 2022, 12:12:54 PM
The Republicans will probably win a bunch of seats.  They will proceed to do nothing conservative, just like they have done every other time this has happened in my recollection.

I have been told Newt Gingrich's congress was different, but I can't recall that.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on January 01, 2022, 12:50:33 PM
The Republicans will probably win a bunch of seats.  They will proceed to do nothing conservative, just like they have done every other time this has happened in my recollection.

I have been told Newt Gingrich's congress was different, but I can't recall that.
I don't know how much different it was.  Mainly it was the last Congress that came real close to balancing the budget.  Then the media placed a giant target on his back and did negative stories day after day.  The Republicans did like they always do and thought getting rid of Newt would make the media be friends with them again.  Newt was not perfect, but he was better than a lot of others.  Of course, we also had Dick Armey and Phil Graham and a host of others in leadership positions, many of which retired around 2000.  Through the 2000's, the Republicans sort of abandoned the "Limited Govt" principle completely. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on January 02, 2022, 01:15:07 PM
Thank you for the background.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on January 12, 2022, 09:19:12 AM
Many of the Ds and their MSM allies are screaking this will be the last election if the Rs gain control of congress.
Yes I know some on the right were saying the same thing during the Obama admin but I thinks the Ds are trying to ramp it up to "action on the streets" if you know what I mean over the matter i
 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: DittoHead on January 12, 2022, 09:44:42 AM
Many of the Ds and their MSM allies are screaking this will be the last election if the Rs gain control of congress.
Yes I know some on the right were saying the same thing during the Obama admin
You don't have to go back that far. Plenty of people said that before, during & after the 2020 election. People say that about every election.
Eventually they will be correct but probably not this time.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on January 12, 2022, 10:32:03 AM
You don't have to go back that far. Plenty of people said that before, during & after the 2020 election. People say that about every election.
Eventually they will be correct but probably not this time.
I agree with you on that.  I was thinking I heard Dems ask if the Bush Admin would step aside.  Heard some speculate about it with Obama and Trump. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 12, 2022, 12:12:29 PM
Then again, we haven't had a free and fair presidential election since 2016. But, yeah, let's whistle past the graveyard...
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: French G. on January 12, 2022, 02:51:20 PM
I don’t think he has the troop numbers he thinks he has but his voting rights speech was a great one if the next thing you plan involves cranking up your armored vehicles.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on January 24, 2022, 03:19:12 PM
Looks like a possible false flag operation going on in FL.

Blue-check screeching at DeSantis about super fake looking anti-Semitic flyers distributed around Miami Beach goes SO wrong
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/01/24/blue-check-screeching-at-desantis-about-super-fake-looking-anti-semitic-flyers-distributed-around-miami-beach-goes-so-wrong/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on April 09, 2022, 06:23:06 PM
Already playing the Putin card

US intelligence officials think Vladimir Putin has found an excuse to interfere with our upcoming elections
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/04/09/us-intelligence-officials-think-vladimir-putin-has-found-an-excuse-to-interfere-with-our-upcoming-elections/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: grampster on April 09, 2022, 06:32:37 PM
Remember you heard it here first.
The D's will concoct a reason to get Veep Harris to resign.  Then the shadow government that is running Biden will get Michelle O appointed as VP.  Then the D's can shed themselves of Biden, which will be after the midterm control of congress by the R's, and Michelle O will become president with her hubby in the background pulling her strings.  That way we get 10 years of Barak II because everybody just loves Michelle.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on April 12, 2022, 09:03:06 AM
Quick! Cancel student debt

MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan says President Biden needs to cancel student debt ASAP because elections are coming
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/04/11/msnbcs-mehdi-hasan-says-president-biden-need-to-cancel-student-debt-asap-because-elections-are-coming/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on April 19, 2022, 06:02:36 PM
Got to buy the votes

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    BREAKING — The Biden admin on Tuesday announced sweeping reforms for income-driven repayment programs. Over 3.6 million borrowers are expected to benefit, according to ED, with at least 40,000 borrowers receiving immediate student loan forgiveness. https://t.co/XXv9BTd8v1

    — Adam S. Minsky (@AdamSMinsky) April 19, 2022

Biden administration kicks midterm campaign off by forgiving 40,000 student loans
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/04/19/biden-administration-kicks-midterm-campaign-off-by-forgiving-40000-student-loans/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on April 19, 2022, 06:08:54 PM
Possible fuzzy memory here but didn't Trump mention something along these lines and the MSM immediately slammed it as vote buying?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: 230RN on April 19, 2022, 06:50:21 PM
What about all the folks who have already paid off their student loans?  Up the creek?  How will they buy them off?

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on April 20, 2022, 08:42:53 AM
And the rats are beginning to flee the sinking ship...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-media-pivots-from-unpopular-biden-ahead-of-midterms-as-reality-sets-in
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on April 20, 2022, 08:57:47 AM
And the rats are beginning to flee the sinking ship...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-media-pivots-from-unpopular-biden-ahead-of-midterms-as-reality-sets-in

Related, Biden has just said that he'll be running again in 2024 because "nobody else can beat Trump". Trump running or not aside (personally I don't think he should), electoral votes in the last election were close. Even if you call it a fair election, it was close. With Biden's current numbers, how does he think he would have a chance in hell? I think Arizona for sure, where it was close last time, will go R this time, just because of immigration if nothing else.

I know that some here have a problem with DeSantis, but if DeSantis runs in '24, he will run circles around Biden.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on April 20, 2022, 12:04:01 PM
I really hope Biden runs again.  I doubt it.  We all know Biden is really stupid.  But I don't think the rest of the party is as stupid as he is.

And I really hope Trump doesn't. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: 230RN on April 21, 2022, 12:25:25 PM
I really hope Biden runs again.  I doubt it.  We all know Biden is really stupid.  But I don't think the rest of the party is as stupid as he is.

And I really hope Trump doesn't. 

I don't think the party cares about how stupid Biden is.  All they care about is whether he (or anybody they champion) responds correctly to the puppet strings and uses his pen in line with "company policy."

I'm still sorta dreaming Trump will pull a Hillary and establish residency in a very red state, run for Congress or the Senate, and use his powerful voice there to frustrate the Lefties.

If I'm in a really deep dream, I have him replacing Romney.  Nice to wake up with that pleasant fantasy coloring my breakfast routine.

Terry the Dreamer, 230RN
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 21, 2022, 12:47:02 PM
Remember you heard it here first.
The D's will concoct a reason to get Veep Harris to resign.  Then the shadow government that is running Biden will get Michelle O appointed as VP.  Then the D's can shed themselves of Biden, which will be after the midterm control of congress by the R's, and Michelle O will become president with her hubby in the background pulling her strings.  That way we get 10 years of Barak II because everybody just loves Michelle.

I've never considered the procedure for replacing a VP partway through a term, but my first thought was that the Speaker of the House would become VP; it shouldn't be possible for the VP to be an appointed position since it's next in line for the Presidency.

A little websearching and I find that the 25th Amendment addresses this, and I also discovered that evidently Gerald Ford was effectively unelected to both the office of VP and President, which is more than a little disturbing.  Yes, the House and Senate voted on him being appointed to VP, but 1 year later he took the office of POTUS as a consequence of Nixon's impeachment.  He was House Minority Leader at the time.  The Speaker was a D.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on April 21, 2022, 01:25:50 PM
It wasn't a consequence of Nixon's impeachment.  Nixon resigned from office to avoid being impeached.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on April 21, 2022, 01:46:08 PM

If I'm in a really deep dream, I have him replacing Romney.  Nice to wake up with that pleasant fantasy coloring my breakfast routine.

Terry the Dreamer, 230RN

That would be hilarious!   =D
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Bogie on April 21, 2022, 03:52:48 PM
The best thing that Trump and DeSantis could do would be to announce their candidacy on the same stage, at the same time, and each say that the other will be their VP.
 
Then shake hands, announce that they will be a team, and will have the best non-governmental minds on hand to clean house.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 01, 2022, 08:22:18 AM
Suddenly the voting machines are vulnerable to hacking again.

Republicans pounce in 3…2…1…: CISA warns of ‘vulnerabilities’ in Dominion Voting machines currently used in 16 states, AP reports
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/01/republicans-pounce-in-3-2-1-cisa-warns-of-vulnerabilities-in-dominion-voting-machines-currently-used-in-16-states-ap-reports/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on June 01, 2022, 08:34:08 AM
Suddenly the voting machines are vulnerable to hacking again.

Republicans pounce in 3…2…1…: CISA warns of ‘vulnerabilities’ in Dominion Voting machines currently used in 16 states, AP reports
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/01/republicans-pounce-in-3-2-1-cisa-warns-of-vulnerabilities-in-dominion-voting-machines-currently-used-in-16-states-ap-reports/

I'm surprised the Democrat powers-that-be haven't condemned this reporting as misinformation.  I'm even more surprised that they haven't flat out forbidden reporting at all on this subject.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 01, 2022, 08:46:30 AM
I'm surprised the Democrat powers-that-be haven't condemned this reporting as misinformation.  I'm even more surprised that they haven't flat out forbidden reporting at all on this subject.

They want this info out so if they lose they can blame Trump loving Russian hackers again.

2000 - There's a problem with our voting machines
2004 - There's a problem with our voting machines
2008 - Voting machines are fine
2012 - Voting machines are fine
2016 - Russian hackers!
2020 - Voting machines are fine
2022 MT - There's a problem with our voting machines
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 14, 2022, 03:24:45 PM
There will be war!
Got to ramp up the scare tactics

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“It would also embolden, uh, Republicans and the far Right and white nationalists across the country to begin to believe that it is their time to not just take power in the House, but the Senate, the White House, and state houses across the country. And we gotta understand that this is a group that has been radicalized by the Great Replacement myth and many other things and have been pushing for violence and pushing for even civil war. So that is what’s at stake right now in terms of this election.”

    — RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 14, 2022[/quote]
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/14/hard-left-dem-rep-jamaal-bowman-suggests-that-gop-wins-in-midterms-could-ultimately-lead-to-civil-war-video/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on June 14, 2022, 03:48:00 PM
There will be war!
Got to ramp up the scare tactics

    — RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 14, 2022
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/14/hard-left-dem-rep-jamaal-bowman-suggests-that-gop-wins-in-midterms-could-ultimately-lead-to-civil-war-video/
He says the "Great Replacement Myth".  What about the "Great Switch" myth where all the racist Southern Democrats suddenly switched parties at some point?  At least conservative conspiracy theories have some facts at the core. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on June 14, 2022, 06:29:32 PM
He says the "Great Replacement Myth".  What about the "Great Switch" myth where all the racist Southern Democrats suddenly switched parties at some point?  At least conservative conspiracy theories have some facts at the core.

The "Great Replacement Myth" is obviously true.  Of course the government is doing it best to make white people a minority as quickly as possible.  Non-westerners are far more tolerant of abusive, corrupt and authoritarian governments than western whites.  Our government elites wants a population that will never vote it out of power.  Or be able to overthrow it with arms for that matter.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Bogie on June 14, 2022, 07:07:29 PM
They have managed such division, and torqued up their own true believers SO much that they're going to NEED a conflict if they are to maintain any semblance of control.
 
And... RIght now the major issue is how Pride has turned back into "scare the straights."
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 14, 2022, 07:32:30 PM
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    Ask yourself: How well are you going to sleep at night knowing that every five years Ted Cruz and other Congressional Republicans pushing ultra-MAGA policies are going to vote on whether you’ll have Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid?

    That’s their plan.

    — President Biden (@POTUS) June 14, 2022
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/14/president-biden-wants-to-know-how-well-youre-going-to-sleep-at-night-with-ted-cruz-pushing-ultra-maga-policies/

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 14, 2022, 11:07:46 PM
The Ultra MAGA plan is to get power and vote on things?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 14, 2022, 11:14:14 PM
The Ultra MAGA plan is to get power and vote on things?

Insidiously sneaky isn't it?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: French G. on June 15, 2022, 12:15:19 AM
They have managed such division, and torqued up their own true believers SO much that they're going to NEED a conflict if they are to maintain any semblance of control.
 
And... RIght now the major issue is how Pride has turned back into "scare the straights."

Maybe there are straights(so is spaghetti until it gets wet) that get the vapors over it. Me, I am just so tired of it. Who cares where you stick mr. winky, or your lack thereof, or pending removal. Just don't tell about it. Yes, your hairstyle is both stunning and brave. Could you now get my very simple order correct?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on June 15, 2022, 06:58:48 AM
"Things are going very badly for Democrats when they have to bring out the ol' "Republicans will eliminate Social Security & Medicare if they win the election" argument."

That's the exact thought I had when I opened that Twitchy and read the Hair Sniffer in Chief's tweet...
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 15, 2022, 07:33:37 PM
Maybe there are straights(so is spaghetti until it gets wet) that get the vapors over it. Me, I am just so tired of it. Who cares where you stick mr. winky, or your lack thereof, or pending removal. Just don't tell about it. Yes, your hairstyle is both stunning and brave. Could you now get my very simple order correct?

I don't give half a tinkers damn what two or more consenting adults do or don't do to each other or themselves in private, but I damn sure don't want to pay for it.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: lee n. field on June 15, 2022, 08:26:14 PM
"Things are going very badly for Democrats when they have to bring out the ol' "Republicans will eliminate Social Security & Medicare if they win the election" argument."

That's the exact thought I had when I opened that Twitchy and read the Hair Sniffer in Chief's tweet...

Grandpa Simpson has a twitter account?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on June 15, 2022, 10:45:29 PM
I don't give half a tinkers damn what two or more consenting adults do or don't do to each other or themselves in private, but I damn sure don't want to pay for it.

I give a damn because the collective mass of sexual immorality (heterosexual and homosexual) has rotted our whole society,.  Over 40% of all kids are bastards.  The media has become a freak show.  I saw a freaking tranny on stripper pole on an advertisement the other day.  Sexual perversion is being preached to children in the schools, the comic books, and TV.  It is being progandized by most major companies and almost every education institution.  The government glorifies perversion publicly. If you disagree, you are an evil bigot who should be fired, shunned and shamed, and your religion is monstrous.

I want to raise my children to be Christians, get married to actual members of the opposite sex, stay married, and have their own legitimate children.  Not end up as castrated, perverted freaks.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Andiron on June 15, 2022, 11:03:40 PM
I give a damn because the collective mass of sexual immorality (heterosexual and homosexual) has rotted our whole society,.  Over 40% of all kids are bastards.  The media has become a freak show.  I saw a freaking tranny on stripper pole on an advertisement the other day.  Sexual perversion is being preached to children in the schools, the comic books, and TV.  It is being progandized by most major companies and almost every education institution.  The government glorifies perversion publicly. If you disagree, you are an evil bigot who should be fired, shunned and shamed, and your religion is monstrous.

I want to raise my children to be Christians, get married to actual members of the opposite sex, stay married, and have their own legitimate children.  Not end up as castrated, perverted freaks.

Clearly you're a Nazi bigot homophobe...

Welcome to the club I guess.  I've just leaned into it.  They're gonna call you horrible things if you're not on board with The Woke.  Living righteously is the best revenge.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 16, 2022, 09:48:24 AM
We got to scare the hell out of 'em!

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MSNBC’s @cornellbelcher
 gives Democrats messaging advice for minorities & the midterms: “We’ve got to scare the hell out of ‘em”
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1537188105454862339
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Post by: MechAg94 on June 16, 2022, 09:57:46 AM
I give a damn because the collective mass of sexual immorality (heterosexual and homosexual) has rotted our whole society,.  Over 40% of all kids are bastards.  The media has become a freak show.  I saw a freaking tranny on stripper pole on an advertisement the other day.  Sexual perversion is being preached to children in the schools, the comic books, and TV.  It is being progandized by most major companies and almost every education institution.  The government glorifies perversion publicly. If you disagree, you are an evil bigot who should be fired, shunned and shamed, and your religion is monstrous.

I want to raise my children to be Christians, get married to actual members of the opposite sex, stay married, and have their own legitimate children.  Not end up as castrated, perverted freaks.
We will see what most people think about all that in November (as far as politics is concerned).  Personally I think most people see this stuff, can't do anything about it, and just go about their lives.  However, I think we are seeing some push back ramping up.  We will see where that goes.

Marvel Comics and DC Comics are owned by Disney and sales numbers are way, way down from even 20 years ago.  Most of the transitional entertainment venues are owned by a few leftists corporations or groups.  IMO, the best thing we can do is cut those off and look for other avenues for entertainment to fund.  Daily Wire is trying to set up an alternative with the movies they are making.  I think we are seeing the beginning of push back.  Marvel and DC comics sales numbers are extremely low compared to decades ago.  Most people don't like what the leftist writers are doing.  If you follow YoungRippa59 on Youtube, he is working to start a new comic book publishing company with new heroes and stories.  I think he is getting ready to roll it out soon. 

Locally, I interested to see what comes up in the Texas Legislature next Spring.  I wouldn't be surprised to see some laws against drag shows come up along with sex change medication/surgery for minors.  Some will push gun control due to Uvalde, but I don't expect that to go anywhere.  I am curious if there will be more push to encourage more teachers to be armed.

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 16, 2022, 10:59:37 AM
We got to scare the hell out of 'em!
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1537188105454862339

It's working, every time I go to the gas station or supermarket ... or check my portfolio.
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Post by: MillCreek on June 16, 2022, 11:10:54 AM
It's working, every time I go to the gas station or supermarket ... or check my portfolio.

Word.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: lee n. field on June 16, 2022, 11:38:25 AM
I give a damn because the collective mass of sexual immorality (heterosexual and homosexual) has rotted our whole society,.

And I wonder at this point how much of that was long term deliberate.

Was listening to a piece yesterday about Alfred Kinsey.  He was quite a nasty piece of work.

 
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Post by: MechAg94 on June 16, 2022, 12:25:19 PM
And I wonder at this point how much of that was long term deliberate.

Was listening to a piece yesterday about Alfred Kinsey.  He was quite a nasty piece of work.

 
For a few, it was deliberate.  But when you talk about vices, people are naturally tempted by those things.  If fewer people learn to control their vices, things will eventually go downhill on their own. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on June 17, 2022, 04:43:45 PM
Huh. Van Jones is not wrong.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1537853270345101312
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on June 18, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Oh no! The Republicans will focus on winning the Electoral College in 2024! What a weird strategy.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/18/hillary-clinton-believes-republicans-will-focus-on-winning-the-electoral-college-in-2024/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 19, 2022, 10:56:55 AM
ABC News said the dems will keep the house and gain up to 4 seats in the senate.
But then deleted the tweet for some reason

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/19/what-sort-of-fckery-is-this-abc-news-busted-deleting-tweet-claiming-democrats-will-hold-onto-the-house-and-take-4-seats-in-the-senate/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on June 19, 2022, 03:00:42 PM
ABC News said the dems will keep the house and gain up to 4 seats in the senate.
But then deleted the tweet for some reason

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/19/what-sort-of-fckery-is-this-abc-news-busted-deleting-tweet-claiming-democrats-will-hold-onto-the-house-and-take-4-seats-in-the-senate/

Not an "oopsie" as was stated in the article.  Someone somewhere on the Dem side let something slip.  There's going to be a lot of folks on the right disappointed when the expected "Red Tsunami" turns out to be a red wavelet, or even a blue wavelet.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on June 19, 2022, 05:13:13 PM
https://pressgallery.house.gov/member-data/party-breakdown
Democrats only have an 11 vote majority currently plus 6 vacancies.  I would believe the House would switch before the Senate.  I would prefer to hear from a pollster who is looking at the races seat by seat. 

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on June 19, 2022, 05:17:46 PM
Texas Sen. John Cornyn booed by crowd at state GOP convention while negotiating gun control bill
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-sen-cornyn-booed-crowd-state-gop-convention-negotiating-gun-control-bill

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Texas Sen. John Cornyn got booed by attendees at the state's GOP convention on Friday over his involvement in negotiating a bipartisan bill focused on gun reform and mental healthcare after recent mass shootings in America.
Video in the link. 

Uvalde happened after the primary vote so he is the candidate in November.  I have no idea who is running against Cornyn in November.  That says something.  If it was someone halfway well known, they might have a shot at winning.  At this point, I think I will skip that race when I go through the ballot. 

I hope the other GOP Senate races look better, but I don't know who is up for election and where.  Only need a couple to get the majority.  More would be better so the squishes aren't in control.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: bedlamite on June 19, 2022, 05:39:58 PM
Not an "oopsie" as was stated in the article.  Someone somewhere on the Dem side let something slip.  There's going to be a lot of folks on the right disappointed when the expected "Red Tsunami" turns out to be a red wavelet, or even a blue wavelet.

My bet is another F curve
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 19, 2022, 07:06:30 PM
My bet is another F curve

That's my expectation as well. I suspect that the odds of ever having a republican,  let alone a conservative majority in either the house or the senate are getting pretty slim.  No consequences for blatant election fraud undoubtedly leads to even more fraud.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 19, 2022, 07:29:17 PM
ABC News said the dems will keep the house and gain up to 4 seats in the senate.
But then deleted the tweet for some reason

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/19/what-sort-of-fckery-is-this-abc-news-busted-deleting-tweet-claiming-democrats-will-hold-onto-the-house-and-take-4-seats-in-the-senate/

The article in question (also linked by twitchy.com):

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bidens-optimism-collides-mounting-political-challenges-85480788?cid=social_twitter_abcn

I wouldn't go all  [tinfoil] just yet.  It appears to be an unfinished article (which would explain why the tweet got deleted), and the first paragraph could be what Biden is predicting for the midterms.

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on June 20, 2022, 07:08:40 AM
"I wouldn't go all  [tinfoil] just yet. "

No, man! No! The fix is in! THE FIX IS IN! GO FULL *expletive deleted*ing PANIC MONKEY! THE FIX IS IN! THE DEMS HAVE RIGGED IT! THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD ALL 700 SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND ALL 1042 SEATS IN THE SENATE!

THEY'RE GONNA MANDATE THAT EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD HAS A SEX CHANGE OPERATION AND USE DIFFERENT PRONOUNS!

THEY'RE GONNA BURN YOUR BIBLES AND GUNS IN FRONT OF YOU!

ABORTION IS WILL NO LONGER BE A RIGHT... IT WILL BE MANDATORY!

THE FIX IS IN!!!!!!


Or, as I like to call it, just another day at TFL...  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on June 20, 2022, 09:51:01 AM
If the Democrats don't lose a bunch of seats in congress coming up soon, I predict they will do much much worse during the presidential election.  I don't think things are going to improve much.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on June 20, 2022, 10:00:33 AM
If the Democrats don't lose a bunch of seats in congress coming up soon, I predict they will do much much worse during the presidential election.  I don't think things are going to improve much.

Not that it can be controlled, but in many ways, it would be better to have a "red wave" in 2024 rather than now. Usually what seems to happen is that a midterm red (or blue) wave comes in, then it is moderated with a new president stuck with a majority from the opposite party after the following presidential election.

Though we do often make the argument here that gridlock is the best option.  =)
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 22, 2022, 10:34:01 AM
Looks like they're floating the idea of Newsom for 2024
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on June 22, 2022, 10:40:24 AM
Looks like they're floating the idea of Newsom for 2024

I've been seeing that. They seem to be selling it as the young, hip, Kennedy-like pretty boy. I really don't know what dems nationally (like a NY or FL or TX dem voter) think of him.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on June 22, 2022, 10:52:26 AM
"They seem to be selling it as the young, hip, Kennedy-like pretty boy."

Who has none of Kennedy's ability, charm, charisma, vitality, ideas, or panache.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on June 22, 2022, 11:07:02 AM
And yow, this is a new level of desperate entirely!

Media Pundits -- Don't let gas prices or inflation influence your vote in November! That would be wrong! WRONGGGGGGGG!

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-wapo-abc-figures-warn-voters-against-gas-prices-influencing-vote-november

You have GOT to be kidding me!

""The president does not have some super-secret special dial on his desk that can adjust gas prices, but many voters believe otherwise," (WaPO columninst) wrote."

I guess that "I'm going to stop the Federal gas tax dial" isn't such a big secret then!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


She completely forgets.... no, she's completely ignoring the inconvenient truth that St. Barak, First of His Name, the Glorious Obama, once told us with gravitas and certainty "You can't drill your way to lower prices!"

And yet, that's EXACTLY what America did.

And, as I have repeatedly said over the past 2 years, Biden is on a mission to PUNISH the United States for having the temerity to prove St. Barak 100% wrong...

And that's what these idiots don't want us to see.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on June 22, 2022, 11:46:55 AM
IMO, the President does not have a "gas price dial".  IMO, it is more like an economic brake or road block on the energy market.  The executive branch controls permits for oil leases, oil drilling, and all sort of other environmental restrictions and distribution restrictions.  All the President has to do is take his foot off the brake and let the market move freely. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on June 22, 2022, 12:27:34 PM
Really makes me wonder what sort of tune these pundits would be signing if it were a Republican in office in similar economic times...

Oh, silly me, we ALL know what the tune would be...

VOTE THE RACIST, FASCIST BASTARD OUT! HE'S CRUSHING YOUR ECONOMIC HOPES AND DREAMS! IT'S HIS FAULT, PERSONALLY!

No real mystery there.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: French G. on June 22, 2022, 12:50:22 PM
High gas prices benefit crony capitalists while impoverishing underserved communities of color. Vote D for an equitable energy market pan for all.

That’s about how it would go.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 23, 2022, 08:26:56 AM
PIVOT!

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    Law enforcement are often paid less than a living wage, and that is wrong.

    We must raise pay for officers and address violent crime as we work to build community trust and foster law enforcement accountability.

    — Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) June 23, 2022
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    Law enforcement in urban, suburban and rural areas across Georgia struggle with staffing shortages that put communities at risk.

    Higher officer pay will lead to better officer recruitment, better officer retention, better community interactions and a safer Georgia.

    — Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) June 23, 2022
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/23/defund-the-police-was-so-bad-for-stacey-abrams-that-now-she-wants-to-give-cops-a-raise/

Seeing more and more "Defund The Police" dems suddenly become "Fund The police" lately
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on June 23, 2022, 08:30:52 AM
^^^ Yeah, well.  Once she is elected her tune will change yet again.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 23, 2022, 08:31:53 AM
Once she is elected

I thought she already was
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on June 23, 2022, 09:44:42 AM
^^^ Yeah, well.  Once she is elected her tune will change yet again.

I thought she already was.

Sorry, I should have said "re-elected".
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on June 23, 2022, 09:46:57 AM
In her own mind.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on June 23, 2022, 10:10:49 AM
Well she is President of the United Federation of Planets.
So being a gov would be a few steps down.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on July 29, 2022, 08:07:15 AM
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Kyle Morris
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BREAKING: The Republicans have defeated the Democrats 10-0 in the 2022 Congressional Baseball Game.

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https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1552840124211290112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1552840124211290112%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fdougp-3137%2F2022%2F07%2F28%2Fdem-rep-brought-on-more-unity-while-gop-turned-congressional-baseball-game-into-a-midterm-metaphor%2F

But it wasn't all fun and games

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Congresswoman Linda Sanchez flipping off Republicans in a charity game to support the Boys and Girls Club of DC.  Sad!
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/28/dem-rep-brought-on-more-unity-while-gop-turned-congressional-baseball-game-into-a-midterm-metaphor/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on July 29, 2022, 08:30:46 AM
More loving and tolerant Democrats. I'm surprised they didn't bring another shooter with them this year. Just so they could blame Republicans for not passing gun control.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on July 29, 2022, 08:56:26 AM
In the last few years (or maybe decade) I've seen the rise of what I call "The View women". They all portray themselves as "strong, smart, beautiful women who are all that ("you want to date us!")", who are actually a herd of stupid, fat, waddling cows with an IQ of 74 in their head and a 5lb box of bonbons in their hands.

Linda Sanchez is one of their star players.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on July 29, 2022, 09:21:20 AM
^^^ Yeah, well.  Once she is elected her tune will change yet again.
I think someone finally let her know that public opinion among black people is not to defund the police. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 04, 2022, 07:42:39 PM
And the desperation continues, with less than half of Hispanic Americans now backing the Dem Party.

https://youtu.be/d2jAMV1eT-0

The guy he's interviewing wrote the book that popularized the Democrats' Great Replacement Theory, back when they thought Obama was at the vanguard of a permanent, left-wing majority of color. They thought brown people couldn't think for themselves.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on September 22, 2022, 03:23:00 PM
Either it's a desperate attempt to stir up the base or it's the vodka talking. Or possibly both.

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Pelosi: “A movement to repeal the 19th Amendment for women to have the right to vote … I think I hear something like that every day around here.”

Nancy Pelosi short-circuits talking about the voices she hears (in her head?) every day talking about ending a woman’s right to vote (watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/09/22/nancy-pelosi-short-circuits-talking-about-the-voices-she-hears-in-her-head-every-day-talking-about-ending-a-womans-right-to-vote-watch/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on September 22, 2022, 06:04:39 PM
Either it's a desperate attempt to stir up the base or it's the vodka talking. Or possibly both.

Nancy Pelosi short-circuits talking about the voices she hears (in her head?) every day talking about ending a woman’s right to vote (watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/09/22/nancy-pelosi-short-circuits-talking-about-the-voices-she-hears-in-her-head-every-day-talking-about-ending-a-womans-right-to-vote-watch/
There is no way she has significant daily contact with anyone but other Democrats.  I didn't know that was a common policy position with Democrats.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 22, 2022, 10:20:47 PM
So, how's the election looking now? 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 23, 2022, 07:26:48 AM
She's not being crazy or senile. She's just claiming, as Leftists have always claimed, that women who can't murder their younguns are basically slaves. Then again, that actually is crazy.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on September 23, 2022, 07:32:11 AM
Newsom is putting up billboards in a bunch of other states advertising California as an "abortion destination" almost like he's advertising for people to come for vacation. Dude is definitely running for President with all the out of state stuff he's doing.

We talk a lot about senile Brandon and moron Harris, but man, I don't even want to think of where the country would be going if this jamoke was president. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on September 23, 2022, 08:55:45 AM
So, how's the election looking now?

The red tsunami has evaporated.  Other than that, it looks like there will be an election of sorts in November.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: dogmush on September 23, 2022, 09:19:19 AM
I think the polling data we are getting on the election is less accurate than RT's coverage of the Ukrainian war.

Depending on which YouTube channel you listen to, There might not even be an election.  Biden is going to cancel it because......reasons.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 23, 2022, 09:31:16 AM
Don't forget that these are the same pollsters that assured us Hillary was a stone cold lock in 2016.
Pollsters lie. It is my opinion that the stage is simply being set for a dem sweep in November, by whatever means they need. It will make the fraud we saw in 2020 pale in comparison.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: HankB on September 23, 2022, 09:37:45 AM
Then there's Lindsey effing Graham making a big deal out of introducing legislation to outlaw abortion at the Federal level.

Exactly what you need to fire up the D base and increase D turnout right before a mid term election.

It's clear that some in The Stupid PartyTM don't really want to be put in a position (legislative majority) where their base will expect them to actually DO something.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: sumpnz on September 23, 2022, 10:02:31 AM
It's clear that some in The Stupid PartyTM don't really want to be put in a position (legislative majority) where their base will expect them to actually DO something.

Why should now be any different than all the other times? 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 23, 2022, 11:15:37 AM
Then there's Lindsey effing Graham making a big deal out of introducing legislation to outlaw abortion at the Federal level.

Exactly what you need to fire up the D base and increase D turnout right before a mid term election.

It's clear that some in The Stupid PartyTM don't really want to be put in a position (legislative majority) where their base will expect them to actually DO something.

Wanting to ban abortion at 15 weeks!

What kind of monster would want to stop babies like this from being killed?  The few pro-lifers in the GOP just needs to shut the hell up and agree that it is okay use forceps to pull of the limbs of these worthless clumps of cells.  Moloch needs more sacrifices.

(https://img1.parentune.com/images/blogs/pregnancy/ddpb17815wee_003.jpg)
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 26, 2022, 05:19:31 PM
More polls, more stats, more rank punditry:

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/09/26/democrats-are-in-far-far-more-trouble-than-you-think-n498952
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: bedlamite on September 27, 2022, 05:23:17 PM
Wanting to ban abortion at 15 weeks!

What kind of monster would want to stop babies like this from being killed?  The few pro-lifers in the GOP just needs to shut the hell up and agree that it is okay use forceps to pull of the limbs of these worthless clumps of cells.  Moloch needs more sacrifices.

You completely missed the point. He introduced the bill when he knew the D party is in control and would immediately bury it, so nothing would get done, and the D party is also holding it up saying "see, they want to ban abortion" to their base, which is the one issue that will bring them to the polls. Graham couldn't have picked a worse time to introduce that bill, unless his objective is to try and lose the election so the R's can play controlled opposition again. It's called strategy, and crap like this is why the R's earned the name "stupid party".
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 27, 2022, 06:56:39 PM
Republicans should want to ban abortion.  They should try sincerely to pass bills like this.

If the #^%^ Republicans are ashamed of being "pro-life" and want to hide it, I want nothing to do with them.... cause they aren't pro-life at all.

A nation that kills its children is a nation with a hard heart an evil soul.

And when a nation doesn't even balk at killing late term human beings like this one, they are a pack of moral monsters.

20 week fetus... who can be legally killed for any reason in most of the USA.  That is evil.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familyeducation.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fpregnancy_day%2F2010_06%2Fddpb22520wee_002_rep.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=778abf27d075ebe9f217bc77836a9b5f2f68999788b02b548640625b4c31c049&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 27, 2022, 07:04:44 PM
You completely missed the point. He introduced the bill when he knew the D party is in control and would immediately bury it, so nothing would get done, and the D party is also holding it up saying "see, they want to ban abortion" to their base, which is the one issue that will bring them to the polls. Graham couldn't have picked a worse time to introduce that bill, unless his objective is to try and lose the election so the R's can play controlled opposition again. It's called strategy, and crap like this is why the R's earned the name "stupid party".

Suppose the GOP introduced the bill "at the right time" and banned abortion.  Would you agree with that?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: zxcvbob on September 27, 2022, 07:11:41 PM
Republicans should want to ban abortion.  They should try sincerely to pass bills like this.

If the #^%^ Republicans are ashamed of being "pro-life" and want to hide it, I want nothing to do with them.... cause they aren't pro-life at all.

A nation that kills its children is a nation with a hard heart an evil soul.

And when a nation doesn't even balk at killing late term human beings like this one, they are a pack of moral monsters.

20 week fetus... who can be legally killed for any reason in most of the USA.  That is evil.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familyeducation.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fpregnancy_day%2F2010_06%2Fddpb22520wee_002_rep.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=778abf27d075ebe9f217bc77836a9b5f2f68999788b02b548640625b4c31c049&ipo=images)

I don't think he is sincere in proposing the bill; he's trying to fire up the Democrats so the Republicans lose -- he likes being a senior member of the minority party.  If he was sincere, he would submit the bill early next year.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 27, 2022, 07:22:10 PM
I don't think he is sincere in proposing the bill; he's trying to fire up the Democrats so the Republicans lose -- he likes being a senior member of the minority party.  If he was sincere, he would submit the bill early next year.

I have no idea if Lindsey is sincere or not.

I am sick of people willing to let millions human beings be killed for the sake of political expediency.  Oh, no, we can't let people think we are opposed to pulling the arms and legs off babies!  That would be horrible! They might not vote for us!

I have heard many "conservatives" say they are fine with abortion because it is mostly the babies of liberals that are being killed.  Now we aren't supposed to be pro-life because killing people in the womb is popular with cold hearted moral defectives.

I saw my son at 20 weeks gestation moving around and yawning in my wife's womb.  And a huge percentage of people think it is okay to kill them!

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmother-top.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F05%2Fpregnancy-at-15-weeks-ultrasound.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1ae83fc2db83c9c78b668b3cef7e3f7b8e957878d49b20be7bc90fa9978a3c29&ipo=images)


Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: zxcvbob on September 27, 2022, 07:36:34 PM
Quote from: Pb
I have heard many "conservatives" say they are fine with abortion because it is mostly the babies of liberals that are being killed.

Many?  I haven't even heard one say that, although there are heartless idiots everywhere so it probably has been said.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ron on September 27, 2022, 07:51:11 PM
There does seem to be an obsession with a certain percentage of the human race in killing babies "for reasons". They are more invested in the killing of born and unborn babies than most people are in the protecting of babies. Since abortion was undemocratically foisted upon the USA the country sort of accepted it, at least more than it was before our black robed civic priests declared it the law of the land. I'm thankful for the folks who tirelessly worked to get Roe overturned, all I ever did was vote. I'm still flabbergasted that the court kicked it back down to the states. I'm also happy that I know live in a state that has eliminated it in over 90% of the cases.   

This obsession with killing the unborn/newborn isn't anything recent, it's been going on throughout human history unabated. Like war, it's ubiquitous.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 27, 2022, 08:39:23 PM


I have heard many "conservatives" say they are fine with abortion because it is mostly the babies of liberals that are being killed. 


I also doubt you've heard "many" conservatives say it, but maybe I shouldn't. There are plenty of people on the right that reject social conservative enlightenment.

It is often pointed out that Leftists work against themselves by aborting the relatively few children they have. Is that the kind of talk you have in mind?
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: sumpnz on September 27, 2022, 09:41:00 PM
The “problem” in the pro-life community is that there are those, like Pb, that aren’t satisfied by anything less than a full ban RFN.  And there are others, like bedlamite, that advocate a “get what you can when you can” incrementalist approach and are fine with pausing when or taking smaller bites when large bites are politically impossible.  And neither side is willing to concede points to the other.

I think bedlamite, and many other pro-lifers would like to see a flat out abortion ban, but recognize that right now it simply won’t happen.  In January after the new Congress is sworn in, if there are sufficient majorities in both houses to pass a ban they’ll be much more ok with it.  Whereas right now, all introducing a ban will accomplish is energizing the left to vote.  Waiting in that case is actually more productive because it makes a partisan mix amenable to a ban more likely.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: cordex on September 27, 2022, 11:55:54 PM
I abhor abortion, but I am unconvinced that a federal law against it is constitutional.  It would take very creative articulation on the part of the Supreme Court to uphold such a ban.

State law is another thing altogether.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Boomhauer on September 28, 2022, 04:46:18 AM
I don't think he is sincere in proposing the bill; he's trying to fire up the Democrats so the Republicans lose -- he likes being a senior member of the minority party.  If he was sincere, he would submit the bill early next year.

Exactly. Lindsey is a Democrat. He is introducing this bill which would never pass just to fire the left up. Furthermore anytime there is a major bill *expletive deleted*ing the American people over and it won’t pass without a handful of Republicans voting for it he’s the first to “reach across the aisle in the name of compromise”

I have no idea if Lindsey is sincere or not.

He is absolutely not. Like I said he’s a full fledged RINO. He works for the Dems but pretends to be a conservative at election time and is backed by the old money GOP in this state plus he gets the boomer “vote R no matter what” vote and aims these kinds of bills at gaining their support.

These people that vote for him every time without question are so politically *expletive deleted*ing stupid they love bills like this, don’t understand why Pelosi is still in office and doesn’t get thrown out, think “there ought to be a law” against anything and everything they don’t like, etc. They also don’t stop to wonder why nothing gets repealed or fixed when Rs control the executive branch, Congress, and judicial branch. They are half of what gives the Stupid Party its nickname.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 28, 2022, 09:46:36 AM
The “problem” in the pro-life community is that there are those, like Pb, that aren’t satisfied by anything less than a full ban RFN.

I'm for a full abortion ban, with the only exception being when a mother's life is in danger... but I will also take what I can get.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 28, 2022, 09:48:40 AM
Many?  I haven't even heard one say that, although there are heartless idiots everywhere so it probably has been said.

Probably about 20% (I am guessing) of the posters on AR15.com say they support abortion because it kills mostly children of leftists.  Of course, many of those probably aren't conservatives, but are more libertarians, so my statement may have been exaggerated.  That position is very prominent any time abortion is mentioned there.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: cordex on September 28, 2022, 09:49:56 AM
Probably about 20% (I am guessing) of the posters on AR15.com say they support abortion because it kills mostly children of leftists.  Of course, many of those probably aren't conservatives, but are more libertarians, so my statement may have been exaggerated.  That position is very prominent any time abortion is mentioned there.
I've seen the pragmatic argument for abortion made here more than a few times.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 28, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
I abhor abortion, but I am unconvinced that a federal law against it is constitutional.  It would take very creative articulation on the part of the Supreme Court to uphold such a ban.


Federal laws against abortion are perfectly constitutional.  It is right there in the 14th amendment. 

Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 5
The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The 14th was written, in part, because Democrats were allowing black Americans to be terrorized and killed.  The 14th Amendment prohibits allowing states to legalize killing of innocent people.  Ordinarily, there is no federal role in prosecuting murder cases.  When states allow innocent people to be killed, then the Federal government has a role to prevent the states from doing this.

This is exactly what most states are doing now with unborn people.

Would the Supreme Court agree with me?  No.  I am I right?  Sure, I am.  It is right there in plain English.  States can't let innocent people be killed.  And stabbing someone in the base of her skull with scissors, and sucking out her brains at seven months gestation counts as "depriving someone of life" in my book.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 28, 2022, 10:36:56 AM

I think bedlamite, and many other pro-lifers would like to see a flat out abortion ban, but recognize that right now it simply won’t happen.  In January after the new Congress is sworn in, if there are sufficient majorities in both houses to pass a ban they’ll be much more ok with it.  Whereas right now, all introducing a ban will accomplish is energizing the left to vote.  Waiting in that case is actually more productive because it makes a partisan mix amenable to a ban more likely.

This isn't a flat out abortion ban.  It only starts banning abortion at 15 weeks gestation.

Most voters (barely) in a poll agree with this potential ban!

(https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2022/09/20125653/bracken-220921-politico-abortion-15-weeks_DV.png)

https://morningconsult.com/2022/09/21/voters-divided-lindsey-graham-abortion-ban/

The GOP is afraid to try stopping killing of some unborn children, a move that most voters agree with! 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: zxcvbob on September 28, 2022, 12:00:28 PM
Federal laws against abortion are perfectly constitutional.  It is right there in the 14th amendment. 

Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 5
The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The 14th was written, in part, because Democrats were allowing black Americans to be terrorized and killed.  The 14th Amendment prohibits allowing states to legalize killing of innocent people.  Ordinarily, there is no federal role in prosecuting murder cases.  When states allow innocent people to be killed, then the Federal government has a role to prevent the states from doing this.

This is exactly what most states are doing now with unborn people.

Would the Supreme Court agree with me?  No.  I am I right?  Sure, I am.  It is right there in plain English.  States can't let innocent people be killed.  And stabbing someone in the base of her skull with scissors, and sucking out her brains at seven months gestation counts as "depriving someone of life" in my book.

Just to reenforce what you said, notice it specifically says "any person", not any citizen.  (the unborn are not citizens yet)  Lindsay Graham is still not your friend for introducing this bill at this time.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 28, 2022, 03:39:10 PM
  Lindsay Graham is still not your friend for introducing this bill at this time.

You may be right, I don't know.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Boomhauer on September 28, 2022, 03:53:35 PM
You may be right, I don't know.

Graham is not a friend of anyone remotely conservative
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: dogmush on September 28, 2022, 04:01:25 PM
"Person"  That's the rub.  Not everyone agrees on the start of that.  (Note: I'm stating a fact, not my belief on the beginning of personhood.  Don't @ me)
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: zxcvbob on September 28, 2022, 04:08:43 PM
"A person's a person, no matter how small"

(https://img.thriftbooks.com/api/images/m/c81b4429aa57a05ba101e3d0b2853cefe8a86175.jpg)

(Dr Seuss was pissed when pro-lifers latched onto that because he didn't really mean it)

Only God himself knows when personhood is bestowed, so we have to give the proto-person benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Jim147 on September 28, 2022, 07:59:47 PM
I think he did it to show that democrats won't vote for anything but no restrictions. Several states stirred up the dem base more by going full ban before the midterms.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on September 28, 2022, 08:02:28 PM
"Person"  That's the rub.  Not everyone agrees on the start of that.  (Note: I'm stating a fact, not my belief on the beginning of personhood.  Don't @ me)

Too bad!  I was all set to refute you.   :-[
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on October 06, 2022, 04:54:46 PM
Got to secure the pot smokers's vote

Biden pardoning all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-pardoning-all-prior-federal-offenses-simple-marijuana-possession
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 10, 2022, 11:06:05 PM
Please don't throw me in that briar patch!

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/10/biden-inadvertently-points-out-why-republicans-were-right-to-vote-against-the-inflation-reduction-act/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: MechAg94 on October 11, 2022, 09:48:50 AM
Got to secure the pot smokers's vote

Biden pardoning all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-pardoning-all-prior-federal-offenses-simple-marijuana-possession
I am curious just how many people that applies to.  Perhaps there were more people hit with that in past decades. 
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on October 11, 2022, 09:51:07 AM
I saw Tulsi Gabbard just told the democratic party to get bent.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on October 11, 2022, 10:21:39 AM
Nothing to see here

Colorado 'Mistakenly' Sent 30,000 Postcards to Noncitizens Urging Them to Register to Vote
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/10/11/colorado-mistakenly-sent-30000-postcards-to-noncitizens-urging-them-to-register-to-vote-n2614321
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 11, 2022, 09:40:08 PM
Desperate enough to take talking points from Trump.

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2022/10/11/sen-chris-murphy-channels-trumps-experiences-intellectual-clarity-for-first-time-ever-n502448
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on October 13, 2022, 09:16:14 AM
If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy

Quote
All In with Chris Hayes
@allinwithchris
.@chrislhayes
: "I feel confident in predicting that if Republicans win control of one or both houses of Congress, they will do everything in their power to sabotage the economy to best set them up to retake the White House in 2024."
Quote
aruss_updates
@aruss_updates
·
12h
Replying to
@allinwithchris
 and
@chrislhayes
This is an excellent point. Repubs will tank the economy to deny a Dem president a win & keep Dems from holding the White House.

When Repubs have the White House & Congress, they enact their bad policies like tax cuts for the super rich & privatizing the social safety net.
https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1580358024941961216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1580358024941961216%7Ctwgr%5E0f725b92ec2611bb08980670a3bd043c3dd10505%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2022%2F10%2F13%2Fare-you-high-chris-hayes-says-he-feels-confident-if-republicans-win-congress-theyll-sabotage-bidens-economy-and-lol-watch%2F

Yeah, these people are completely out of touch
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on October 14, 2022, 12:48:29 PM
*
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on October 14, 2022, 08:20:35 PM
"If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy"

You know, no matter what kind of response any of us come up with, it will never be funnier than the desperate *expletive deleted*it the Democrats are coming up with...
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: zxcvbob on October 14, 2022, 08:29:33 PM
"If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy"

You know, no matter what kind of response any of us come up with, it will never be funnier than the desperate *expletive deleted*it the Democrats are coming up with...

It's not funny because almost everyone in the large population centers and a lot of other people who ought to know better believe that crap.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 14, 2022, 10:07:56 PM
"If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy"

You know, no matter what kind of response any of us come up with, it will never be funnier than the desperate *expletive deleted*it the Democrats are coming up with...

I don't know if this is funny, but it's a reply I left on YouTube.

Quote
I hope a lot of far-left voters hear that Republicans are going to out-Herod Biden in sabotaging the economy. They'll all vote Republican at least twice.

If the other Dem media is clever enough, they'll also run with this, just to set up the narrative that whatever else goes wrong with the economy is GOP "obstruction." They will also use that to pressure Republicans into giving them bipartisan cover for the Dem agenda, next term.

And no sooner did I have that thought, than I saw a clip of Biden claiming a GOP House would make inflation worse.  ;/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Ben on October 15, 2022, 10:48:40 AM
Accuracy unknown, but interesting if accurate:

Quote
Most important issues facing the country:
37% Inflation
29% Economy
23% Immigration

What issues do you think GOP is focused on?
37% Immigration
24% Inflation
21% Economy

What issues are Dems focused on?
27% Jan 6
25% Women's rights
23% Climate Change

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/15/eye-opening-thread-explains-why-dems-are-facing-a-self-inflicted-midterm-shellacking/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on October 15, 2022, 11:11:30 AM
I've got my fingers crossed that's going to hold true...

Well, I've got my fingers crossed on the days when I can cross my fingers... :rofl:
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 15, 2022, 01:04:07 PM
Accuracy unknown, but interesting if accurate:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/15/eye-opening-thread-explains-why-dems-are-facing-a-self-inflicted-midterm-shellacking/

"Women's rights"
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on November 06, 2022, 10:55:05 AM
They are really pushing this inflation and crime is just republican propaganda 

Blue-check says violent crime is NOT up (other than ya’ know, MURDER) and HELLO backfire
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/06/blue-check-says-violent-crime-is-not-up-other-than-ya-know-murder-and-hello-backfire/
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on November 06, 2022, 11:30:17 AM
Message from Bette Midler

https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/1588517688795602944
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FguMa0jXgAIxPpA?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on November 06, 2022, 02:07:55 PM
Gee, there's a correlary for you, Bette...

If you want to live in a country run by filthy socialists, move to Venezuela.

Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: HankB on November 06, 2022, 02:51:02 PM
Talk about desperation . . . dems are no longer content with claiming the GOP will push granny off a cliff like they said in a past election, they've stepped up their rhetoric to say that if you vote for the GOP your children may be arrested and killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pphdkixnvA

The guy talking at the beginning is "presidential historian" Michael Beschloss.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 06, 2022, 04:00:42 PM
Talk about desperation . . . dems are no longer content with claiming the GOP will push granny off a cliff like they said in a past election, they've stepped up their rhetoric to say that if you vote for the GOP your children may be arrested and killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pphdkixnvA

The guy talking at the beginning is "presidential historian" Michael Beschloss.

If we don't protect abortion rights, our children could be killed.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on November 06, 2022, 05:51:19 PM
I can't wait until we get to the cannibalism claims.

I got me a strong hankering for some soft liberal liver.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: HankB on November 06, 2022, 05:57:15 PM
I can't wait until we get to the cannibalism claims.

I got me a strong hankering for some soft liberal liver.
I wouldn't think anyone could stomach that level of malodorous bile.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on November 06, 2022, 05:59:22 PM
I can't wait until we get to the cannibalism claims.

If the usual pattern holds when the Ds start accusing the Rs of doing something the Ds are the ones doing it.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: WLJ on November 06, 2022, 06:00:11 PM
I got me a strong hankering for some soft liberal liver.

with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 06, 2022, 07:44:52 PM
If the usual pattern holds when the Ds start accusing the Rs of doing something the Ds are the ones doing it.

This. This right here. They're already taking political prisoners. If they're killing dissidents yet, they're at least trying to hide it.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: sumpnz on November 07, 2022, 01:07:41 AM
I wouldn't think anyone could stomach that level of malodorous bile.

Just don’t knick the gall bladder.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: RocketMan on November 09, 2022, 09:02:00 AM
Not an "oopsie" as was stated in the article.  Someone somewhere on the Dem side let something slip.  There's going to be a lot of folks on the right disappointed when the expected "Red Tsunami" turns out to be a red wavelet, or even a blue wavelet.

It looks like I won't be eating crow anytime soon.  Things are turning out pretty much as I expected.  The red tsunami looks to have turned into a red wavelet.  At best they may pick up enough seats in the house for a bare majority.  But I have my doubts about even that happening.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 09, 2022, 09:10:19 AM
Federal laws against abortion are perfectly constitutional.  It is right there in the 14th amendment. 

Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 5
The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The 14th was written, in part, because Democrats were allowing black Americans to be terrorized and killed.  The 14th Amendment prohibits allowing states to legalize killing of innocent people.  Ordinarily, there is no federal role in prosecuting murder cases.  When states allow innocent people to be killed, then the Federal government has a role to prevent the states from doing this.

This is exactly what most states are doing now with unborn people.

Would the Supreme Court agree with me?  No.  I am I right?  Sure, I am.  It is right there in plain English.  States can't let innocent people be killed.  And stabbing someone in the base of her skull with scissors, and sucking out her brains at seven months gestation counts as "depriving someone of life" in my book.

Citizenship is a function of birth, not conception.  A child can be conceived in China, but born in the USA.  Or conceived in the USA, but born in Cuba.

The Constitution is quite clear on birth being the issue, not conception.  When talking about presidential eligibility and about rights of citizens in particular.

I can see abortion being a State issue, but there's no Federal law against murder.  Not all crimes need to be addressed at the Federal level.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: cordex on November 09, 2022, 09:27:28 AM
Citizenship is a function of birth, not conception.
To be fair to Pb, the phrase "any person" does not refer to citizenship.

... there's no Federal law against murder.
That is simply not true.  There are a number of Federal laws against murder.
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2022, 09:34:31 AM
"I can see abortion being a State issue, but there's no Federal law against murder. "

Uh... say what, now?

Title 18 of the US Code deals specifically with the crime of... murder.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1111
Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Boomhauer on November 09, 2022, 09:41:28 AM
It looks like I won't be eating crow anytime soon.  Things are turning out pretty much as I expected.  The red tsunami looks to have turned into a red wavelet.  At best they may pick up enough seats in the house for a bare majority.  But I have my doubts about even that happening.

Anybody with a bit of sense could have seen this coming when most of the battleground states are more or less Dem controlled along with their election processes.

And even if somehow there was a Red Wave you can always count on enough RINOs to “cross the aisle in the name of bipartisanship” to pass Dem legislation and *expletive deleted*ck us all over.



Title: Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
Post by: Pb on November 10, 2022, 10:07:05 AM
I can see abortion being a State issue, but there's no Federal law against murder.  Not all crimes need to be addressed at the Federal level.

There should be no need to have federal laws against abortion, as the states should give legal protection against slaughter to unborn people within their jurisdiction.

The problem is that sometimes state governments refuse to provide legal protection to people they disfavor.  This is why the 14th Amendment was written... some Democrat-controlled governments were allowing black people to be disarmed, whipped, killed, disenfranchised and so on.  The 14th allows the federal government to step in and protect rights of groups of people when the state government refuses to do so.

So if a state legalizes killing Chinese, the federal government is authorized to prevent the murder of Chinese people in that state with legislation.  It is the same with children before birth.