Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: 230RN on January 08, 2022, 01:54:19 PM
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Or home, for that matter?
King Soopers (KS, City Market) employees are possibly going on strike Wednesday, 17 Jan 2022.
KS is flying in employees from out of state to man the stores.
I don't recall much of a problem in previous strikes, but with the crazy quotient as high as it is nowadays, I may leave my gun in the car.
Yeah, "right to be there" is one thing, but "right to not be there " is another.
I prefer KS mainly because I know the store very well, which makes shopping kind of a swoop in-swoop out matter, but there's always Safeway.
I think my plan would be to approach the store unarmed and if any resistance is met, turn around and hobble back to my car and go to Safeway.
Thoughts?
Terry
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I prefer KS mainly because I know the store very well, which makes shopping kind of a swoop in-swoop out matter, but there's always Safeway.
I think my plan would be to approach the store unarmed and if any resistance is met, turn around and hobble back to my car and go to Safeway.
Thoughts?
I think my plan would be to go to the Safeway -- armed -- and let the strikers and the scabs duke it out without me being a witness.
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How about just shop somewhere else for the next week or so, and see how things shake out.
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How about just shop somewhere else for the next week or so, and see how things shake out.
This
Strikers vs replacements disputes have a nasty habit of going hot
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Since my ccw expired, I am only armed when open carrying - which also has it's own set of problems.
Summer it is easier to open carry, winter clothes conceal and I dislike having to break the law.
but I always have a gun in the car since that's perfectly legal here.
I would say, shop where ever you like and do not engage, if the strikers try to stop you - record them on your phone for evidence -
when I reacquire my ccw, I will always be armed, unless going thru a metal detector ( perfectly legal here in NV )
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Why borrow trouble? Shop where you won't be crossing picket lines, getting pushed around, or have anyone in your face. No point asking for issues that can easily be avoided.
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So you're leaving your gun in your car - because people are more crazy than usual? I don't understand.
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So you're leaving your gun in your car - because people are more crazy than usual? I don't understand.
Same here.
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Me too. But mostly I view the gun as a backup plan. If I think I "need" a gun to go somewhere, then I don't go there.
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Send them a strongly worded letter that you old people excel in and tell them you will never shop there again because of their labor drama.
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Avoiding trouble makes sense gun or no gun.
I have no insight on whether this particular labor dispute will turn ugly, but if it feels like a place you are likely to need your gun then don’t go at all.
What is getting me is that if you think it likely you would need a gun, I can’t imagine then thinking it is a better idea to go to the dangerous place unarmed.
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. . . What is getting me is that if you think it likely you would need a gun, I can’t imagine then thinking it is a better idea to go to the dangerous place unarmed.
Ditto to this. If I were to approach a possible flashpoint, it would be armed - but I'd turn around if it looked like it was getting ugly.
More likely, unless I was the store owner - I'd shop elsewhere for a couple of days.
Some decades ago, meatcutters went on strike against my usual grocery store back in Chicago - they had a couple of guys on the picket line, but there was NO violence, and people kept going in and out of the store without incident.
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How about just shop somewhere else for the next week or so, and see how things shake out.
^this.
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HankB noted,
"Some decades ago, meatcutters went on strike against my usual grocery store back in Chicago - they had a couple of guys on the picket line, but there was NO violence, and people kept going in and out of the store without incident"
Yeah, but as I noted the crazy quotient is higher now.
All good advice. One thing I should have emphasized is the importance of the swoosh in-swoosh out aspect since I'm pretty crippled up and I know the KS store almost as well as the employees --little random searching involved, electric cart or not.
So as the Marines would have it: "Observe, Assess, Overcome," I guess it'll be "Observe, assess, and hobble away."
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Some decades ago, meatcutters went on strike against my usual grocery store back in Chicago - they had a couple of guys on the picket line, but there was NO violence, and people kept going in and out of the store without incident.
That is something to think about. There used to be all kinds of strikes in Santa Barbara, usually involving students. If I had avoided them all it would have been way too much of a hassle. There was no problem with almost all of them, with most involving the kids holding up signs while chatting with each other and mostly ignoring everyone else.
I did though, once walk through the picketers at the grocery store without thinking about it (first time they had a strike while I was there) and in fact think the meatcutters union was involved. Suddenly I was followed, from the parking lot to the front door, by this big, fat, loudmouthed cholo that started going on a foulmouthed rant full of threats against me. I realized that he, and I think most of the people in the picket line, were people who I had never seen working at that store (my regular grocery store, that I visited 1-2 week).
I guess the unions like to bring "intimidators" in. I'd like to think that my size and scariness kept him at bay, but tiny little women were walking past him as well, and he was doing the same thing to them.
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^ "Suddenly I was followed, from the parking lot to the front door, by this big, fat, loudmouthed cholo that started going on a foulmouthed rant full of threats against me."
Wouldn't that be considered using "fighting words"?
https://youtu.be/dlpIABzFHA8 (0:34)
I'm thinking two things:
1. Somebody above mentioned using a recorder
2. Unions have deep pockets.
Terry runs and hides.
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Terry runs and hides.
We've been telling you that's your best option since the OP. =D
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We've been telling you that's your best option since the OP. =D
:rofl:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU