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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on January 15, 2022, 08:48:38 AM
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Well, train thieves. I guess it makes sense, but I didn't know that this was such a prevalent thing:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/01/15/must-see-videos-detail-the-underreported-problem-of-package-theft-from-trains-and-the-bs-response-from-the-das-office/
I'm actually not sure which sickens me more - the thievery or the litter. Who could live in that hellhole?
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Kristine Lazar
@CBSLAKristine
Letter from @UnionPacific to @LADAOffice on rise in train robberies. 90 containers breached a day, theft up 356% says UP. UP considering rerouting it’s trains out of LA county. UP asks DA to be harder on theives. Says they’re back out on the tracks a day after released.
@CBSLA
https://twitter.com/CBSLAKristine/status/1482115852216385538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1482120875180580866%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fgregp-3534%2F2022%2F01%2F15%2Fmust-see-videos-detail-the-underreported-problem-of-package-theft-from-trains-and-the-bs-response-from-the-das-office%2F
:facepalm:
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Impressive, but I wonder if any of the heists were done under the noses of twenty trained Alliance feds.
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Impressive, but I wonder if any of the heists were done under the noses of twenty trained Alliance feds.
The Alliance feds weren't there to guard FedEx and Amazon shipments, so they probably didn't care.
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Some boys in Chicago scored a bunch of new guns off a rail car just a few years ago.
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I think the comment about rerouting trains around that county are what they will have to do. Also, stop using shipping ports in that area if that is involved.
This involves interstate commerce so the Feds could get involved if they cared to do so.
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I think the comment about rerouting trains around that county are what they will have to do. Also, stop using shipping ports in that area if that is involved.
This involves interstate commerce so the Feds could get involved if they cared to do so.
I think that would be about impossible though. Just to the south and west of Lincoln Heights is a major railyard for loading containers and no doubt where trucks take the containers from the port. From that railyard there a double rail line that basically parallels Alhambra and Mission to the south and east to Colton where there's a switching yard and from there trains turn northish and parallel the old Route 66 through the Cajon Pass, which would be a choke point no matter what.
Since this is a lot of infrastructure and established connections what I think they'll do is harden the line against intrusion with wall, wire, and patrols where the trains are slow or stopped. Otherwise they'd have to move the loading yard over by San Bernardino, if there's enough level ground for that, and truck the containers from the port to there.
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Time was if you messed with the mail car you got shot or if captured hanged.
Now they give you a free warm meal and cozy place to sleep overnight then let you back out in the morning to do it again.
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Pic credit in Properties
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Simple solution: Hire people to ride shotgun. I bet it would be cheaper than the cost of the losses. And, it has the added advantage of attrition.
A good slogan would be the good old stand-by, "You loot, we shoot."
Woody
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Just start shooting the thieves. They sure aren't scared of the police; maybe they will be scared of the gun.
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I suspect we're gonna see some mercenaries in the near future... Deniable mercenaries....
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Just start shooting the thieves. They sure aren't scared of the police; maybe they will be scared of the gun.
Then you will probably go to prison.
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"Bobby, at 10pm tonight, you turn off all the cameras and recorders... Just trip over that plug or something, okay?"
Word would get out. Don't call the cops. The crooks likely won't. Silenced .22LR or something bigger and subsonic, and... Make the bodies disappear. Just make sure nobody involved will talk.
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Bet it was those dastardly White supremacists again. They're above the law, untouchable!
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Bet it was those dastardly White supremacists again. They're above the law, untouchable!
Trend now to blame any and all crime by minorities on white suppression of that minority.
White crime = White supremacy
Minority crime = White supremacy
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Trend now to blame any and all crime by minorities on white suppression of that minority.
White crime = White supremacy
Minority crime = White supremacy
Or "teens"
This country has a criminal demographic problem that no one dares mention.
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Found out today that someone went in my store last night, told the counter guy he wanted to buy a radiator, and when he went to fetch it, him and his buddy rolled a cherry picker engine hoist out the front door and into a pickup truck... Bam gone...
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"Bobby, at 10pm tonight, you turn off all the cameras and recorders... Just trip over that plug or something, okay?"
Word would get out. Don't call the cops. The crooks likely won't. Silenced .22LR or something bigger and subsonic, and... Make the bodies disappear. Just make sure nobody involved will talk.
Well hell, you already have a train, stack the bodies in an empty box car and wait until you are rolling through the desert way out there and roll them out. Crude but it would work, coyotes, condors, crows etc would clean up the mess eventually.
The only problem is the only way two people can keep a secret is for one of them to be dead. =|
bob
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Just start shooting the thieves. They sure aren't scared of the police; maybe they will be scared of the gun.
I’m patiently waiting for the day we go back to vigilante justice
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I’m patiently waiting for the day we go back to vigilante justice
I submit that the "vigilante justice" the left hates was probably justified. An angry mob probably got it wrong occasionally, but I'll take that over the current catch and release BS.
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The original "vigilantes" were formed when no police forces existed... in CA, if I remember correctly. They would hold informal trials before executing perps.
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I submit that the "vigilante justice" the left hates was probably justified. An angry mob probably got it wrong occasionally, but I'll take that over the current catch and release BS.
The main issue to me is the thieves have no fear of the consequences of their actions. That needs to be fixed somehow.
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The main issue to me is the thieves have no fear of the consequences of their actions. That needs to be fixed somehow.
My old next door neighbor was a cop - plainclothes - in Chicago.
He said that every year there were over a dozen "murders" he knew of (and he didn't work ALL murders in Chicago - just a tiny fraction) that appeared to be "good riddance" killings - a known perp shot at close range in an alley or subway platform at night, but not robbed and sometimes with his own gun or knife laying nearby. The general cop consensus was that the deceased had made a catastrophic failure in his victim selection process. They didn't try too hard to solve these, and the newspapers didn't report them either.
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The main issue to me is the thieves have no fear of the consequences of their actions. That needs to be fixed somehow.
I'd say that summary justice would be just the thing. Caught in the act, no question of guilt, and at that point *expletive deleted*ck your "due process", you're a POS and we can remedy that with a rope and gravity.
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I'd say that summary justice would be just the thing. Caught in the act, no question of guilt, and at that point *expletive deleted*ck your "due process", you're a POS and we can remedy that with a rope and gravity.
I have no idea how much gravity costs these days, but a bullet is cheaper than a rope, and the energy expended to oppose the force of gravity to raise a body high enough to make a lynching effective is much more than that required to raise a gun and pull a trigger, and there would be less chances of getting caught. Oh, and use a revolver so there will be no cases left behind.
Woody
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While justice is appealing, I have no illusions that summary justice is necessarily more righteous or fair than the broken system we have now.
How many times have we seen angry mobs attacking individuals in attempts to dispense "summary justice" that were absolutely unjust?
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While justice is appealing, I have no illusions that summary justice is necessarily more righteous or fair than the broken system we have now.
How many times have we seen angry mobs attacking individuals in attempts to dispense "summary justice" that were absolutely unjust?
Then the government needs to step up and keep up their end of the deal to prevent that. Seems like lately they've forgotten all about holding up their end.
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Then the government needs to step up and keep up their end of the deal to prevent that. Seems like lately they've forgotten all about holding up their end.
No argument there. It is the inevitable but horrifying result of the government failing to fulfill one of their core responsibilities. Unfortunately the end result of mob justice is more likely to be unfair targeting of outsiders and unpopular people/groups rather than real bad guys.
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Seriously?
They are just going to average the loss rate and amortize the losses into the shipping or product costs. They probably already did that anyway, so they just need to adjust a variable in their "$100 of free insurance with the cost of shipping" algorithm. Why would they risk anything more that the perfunctory Police presence they already pay for? The train company is 100% not covering these losses unless insurance was bought, in which case their rates are calculated to not lose money. The owners of the retail packages are just passing the costs to the customers in either prices or shipping fees. Why would they risk anything to stop it?
When the DOD was running supplies into Afghanistan through Karachi and Pakistan we just assumed and planned for a 20% loss rate between the ports and border crossings. You need 100 widgets? send 120. Adjust the costs and move on with the mission. I expect Amazon has a similar plan and a carefully studied loss rate.
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Seriously?
They are just going to average the loss rate and amortize the losses into the shipping or product costs. They probably already did that anyway, so they just need to adjust a variable in their "$100 of free insurance with the cost of shipping" algorithm. Why would they risk anything more that the perfunctory Police presence they already pay for? The train company is 100% not covering these losses unless insurance was bought, in which case their rates are calculated to not lose money. The owners of the retail packages are just passing the costs to the customers in either prices or shipping fees. Why would they risk anything to stop it?
When the DOD was running supplies into Afghanistan through Karachi and Pakistan we just assumed and planned for a 20% loss rate between the ports and border crossings. You need 100 widgets? send 120. Adjust the costs and move on with the mission. I expect Amazon has a similar plan and a carefully studied loss rate.
If you KNOW something is likely to get stolen, there's an opportunity there. I remember as a kid hearing about a couple of gunshop owners who used to ship packages to one another back in the days when USPS required 1" red letters reading FIREARMS to be printed on packages. (I THINK this was pre-GCA '68) They shipped insured packages back and forth to one another, knowing that the chances of such a package making it through the USPS facilities in Chicago were slim. The insurance payments allegedly totaled up to a tidy sum. Profit!
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While justice is appealing, I have no illusions that summary justice is necessarily more righteous or fair than the broken system we have now.
How many times have we seen angry mobs attacking individuals in attempts to dispense "summary justice" that were absolutely unjust?
Hence my caveat of "caught in the act".
I'm sick of this *expletive deleted*it. Our society is broken, and we keep making excuses for the human trash breaking it. factoring in 20% and passing it on to the consumer is bullshit.
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.22LR, moderately accurized, with a suppressor and night vision. About a 2-300 yard distance, preferably with a natural barrier to cross. Fire a shot or magazine, depending, then unass the AO, and go somewhere else. A 10/22 with 10 rounds and a good wet can could send enough of the thieves to local emergency rooms to start the rumors going...
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Quite a few parts of the country have decided that enforcing laws against criminals is racist, and not to be done. If this is not reversed, our murder rate will soon be what it what it was in 70-80's... if not worse. :mad:
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.22LR, moderately accurized, with a suppressor and night vision. About a 2-300 yard distance, preferably with a natural barrier to cross. Fire a shot or magazine, depending, then unass the AO, and go somewhere else. A 10/22 with 10 rounds and a good wet can could send enough of the thieves to local emergency rooms to start the rumors going...
OK Ronin. maybe back away from the MCU a little.
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OK Ronin. maybe back away from the MCU a little.
Other than the distace, it is a good plan. Get a bit closer and use subsonic ammo.
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Seriously?
They are just going to average the loss rate and amortize the losses into the shipping or product costs. They probably already did that anyway, so they just need to adjust a variable in their "$100 of free insurance with the cost of shipping" algorithm. Why would they risk anything more that the perfunctory Police presence they already pay for? The train company is 100% not covering these losses unless insurance was bought, in which case their rates are calculated to not lose money. The owners of the retail packages are just passing the costs to the customers in either prices or shipping fees. Why would they risk anything to stop it?
When the DOD was running supplies into Afghanistan through Karachi and Pakistan we just assumed and planned for a 20% loss rate between the ports and border crossings. You need 100 widgets? send 120. Adjust the costs and move on with the mission. I expect Amazon has a similar plan and a carefully studied loss rate.
Are you seriously suggesting we should just laid down and accept this and be like Karachi?
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Are you seriously suggesting we should just laid down and accept this and be like Karachi?
No, I'm suggesting we already have. Theft from trucks and trains is not new. FFS there's a whole western movie trope about it. It *might* be higher this year then in recent years, or those news outlets might be looking for clicks. But even if it is trending up the folks who's property it actually is have, decades ago, figured transit loss into the cost of doing business, and we all tacitly accepted that. Should we strive to enforce a rule of law in our society where everyone is treated justly and property rights are secure? Absolutely, and we aren't doing the best job of that. But the bullshit keyboard vigilantism on display in this thread is both juvenile and unrealistic, and as bad for the goal of rule of law as the train robberies. So I am mocking them, as well as the folks clutching their pearls and exclaiming in shock that Highway Men exist. FFS.
Other than the distace, it is a good plan. Get a bit closer and use subsonic ammo.
Nothing about it is good, starting from the cringy "Tell me you've never shot under NODS without telling me you've never shot under NODS" to the overt cheerleading for illegal acts, which as I recall is a violation of APS rules. It's mental masturbation. If Bogie's that good with a suppressed 10/22 maybe he should start with cleaning up St. Louis first. I know he has a lathe. Why don't you go vigilante on some gangbangers shooting up your neighborhood before traveling to the rail yard?
We should want a return to rule of law, not advancing to rule of "cap anyone I see breaking a law". You guys are advocating for civilization ala Baghdad 2009, and don't even know it.
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Well said on all counts, dogmush.
.22LR, moderately accurized, with a suppressor and night vision. About a 2-300 yard distance, preferably with a natural barrier to cross. Fire a shot or magazine, depending, then unass the AO, and go somewhere else. A 10/22 with 10 rounds and a good wet can could send enough of the thieves to local emergency rooms to start the rumors going...
Please refrain from discussing the commission of murders on APS.
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I've been trying to keep my posts more as a warning that's what many people feel like they're are being pushed to by an inactive government on the matter.
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dogmush said in part:
"But the bullshit keyboard vigilantism on display in this thread is both juvenile and unrealistic, and as bad for the goal of rule of law as the train robberies."
Concur. I was and am getting worried about some of the "why wait for the law, we know they're guilty, let's string them up now" mentality displayed.
That shows the same infantile simplicity as the "defund the cops" and "no-bail" adherents.
I don't like paying extra for "transit losses" either.
We have a problem, let's deal with it rationally. If you have to consistently vote for the lesser evil, do so, and don't walk away, but next time around get with your local party and volunteer to voice conservative values, staple newsetters, go door to door....
...on the other side, that's how whole States go blue, friends.
Whole States.
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Wasn't stealing from ports and airports bread and butter for the Mafia for a long time? This doesn't seem too different.
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Wasn't stealing from ports and airports bread and butter for the Mafia for a long time? This doesn't seem too different.
Yep.
Only what's going on right now is more freelance than organized.
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Wasn't stealing from ports and airports bread and butter for the Mafia for a long time? This doesn't seem too different.
Perhaps a bit different in scale. The Mafia tends to target specific shipments if I recall correctly. These mobs are targeting entire trains.
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.22LR, moderately accurized, with a suppressor and night vision. About a 2-300 yard distance, preferably with a natural barrier to cross. Fire a shot or magazine, depending, then unass the AO, and go somewhere else. A 10/22 with 10 rounds and a good wet can could send enough of the thieves to local emergency rooms to start the rumors going...
Lousy idea for all the usual reasons. Plus, the feds and local popo would be targeting the folks playing vigilante, expending all their effort to catch them. They would still ignore the train robbers.
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Via the Colonel...
It would seem desirable to devise a system which would make sure, first, that the riot would stop; and second, that only the leaders would feel the weight of social disapproval.
Let us consider such a means - the 22-caliber rimfire rifle. This weapon, properly sighted and equipped with a noise suppressor, may be used with surgical delicacy to neutralize mob leaders without risk to other members of the group, without noise and with scant danger of death to the subject. A low-velocity 22 bullet in the lung will not knock a man down, and in these days of modern antisepsis it will almost never kill him if he can get to a hospital in a reasonable time. It will, however, absolutely terminate his interest in leading a riot.
I guess things have changed from the Colonel's time...
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Via the Colonel...
It would seem desirable to devise a system which would make sure, first, that the riot would stop; and second, that only the leaders would feel the weight of social disapproval.
Let us consider such a means - the 22-caliber rimfire rifle. This weapon, properly sighted and equipped with a noise suppressor, may be used with surgical delicacy to neutralize mob leaders without risk to other members of the group, without noise and with scant danger of death to the subject. A low-velocity 22 bullet in the lung will not knock a man down, and in these days of modern antisepsis it will almost never kill him if he can get to a hospital in a reasonable time. It will, however, absolutely terminate his interest in leading a riot.
I guess things have changed from the Colonel's time...
It's legitimate. When TPTB won't do their jobs very little is off the table IMO.
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Via the Colonel...
It would seem desirable to devise a system which would make sure, first, that the riot would stop; and second, that only the leaders would feel the weight of social disapproval.
Let us consider such a means - the 22-caliber rimfire rifle. This weapon, properly sighted and equipped with a noise suppressor, may be used with surgical delicacy to neutralize mob leaders without risk to other members of the group, without noise and with scant danger of death to the subject. A low-velocity 22 bullet in the lung will not knock a man down, and in these days of modern antisepsis it will almost never kill him if he can get to a hospital in a reasonable time. It will, however, absolutely terminate his interest in leading a riot.
I guess things have changed from the Colonel's time...
Remind me: How many riots did Jeff Cooper quell by this method?
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No idea... I'm guessing, from some of the stuff that I've read, that similar tactics have been used in places like Gaza...
But hey - it is cheaper to just pass the costs of the stolen stuff along to the customers...
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Water canons and high pressure hoses. Set up a few freight cars as bait, when the scum bags break open the doors hose 'em down.
Same tactics would work to shut down riots.
We have all sorts of non-lethal area denial "weapons" that never get used.
Acoustic "infra-sound" crown control weapons are a proven technology.
I kind of like the water canon with die marker in it.
https://listverse.com/2016/01/22/10-shocking-and-bizarre-riot-control-weapons-from-around-the-world/
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But hey - it is cheaper to just pass the costs of the stolen stuff along to the customers...
Until the customers get fed up with the delays and price hikes.
Your idea to "send a message" with the .22 seems like a good idea, but wouldn't permanent removal from the "gene pool" be better? Somebody else used a good word for this - attrition - as a way to reduce/remove those that perpetrate these offenses, especially when caught "red-handed". [ar15] >:D
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As far as businesses building this into their profit margins, I don't think any of them expected to build in what we are seeing now. When being a thief meant being stealthy, there was a lot less thievery going on. When it has become a popular pastime for our urban areas, the loss models become unsustainable. If it keeps up, we'll be paying $30 for a pair of Walmart socks.
Example:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1483969058110382081
We don't need to talk about resorting to vigilante snipers. How about some non-bizarro world common sense? How is it not ridiculous that we have fallen to the point that the thieves are the ones pepper spraying the security guards instead of the other way around? And yes, this is as much the fault of the woke businesses who say "let them steal" as it is the far left DAs in the cities where this is rampant.
These thefts are so ridiculously common now because they are fun for the thieves. We don't have to resort to the binary of doing nothing or else piling bodies. How many of these thieves would still be doing this stuff if there was even a 50% chance of them being chem sprayed or tased?
Also I note that maybe the train thefts in the OP are also no longer "built in" to the business model as I see that Southern Pacific is looking at moving infrastructure out of LA because of this increase.
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I suspect the 'retail shrinkage' from train robberies is a drop in the bucket compared to the 'retail shrinkage' in stores due to the staff and shoplifters.
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My store is a "high shrink" store. And the company won't let us tie stuff down.
The highest shrink in the country, from what I understand, is a few miles north of us on the same road. They have roll-down garage doors in front of the windows.
Someone tried to hold up the dollar store near my old store, sprayed the clerk. Clerks commenced to kick ass. Perp got away. No police got called.
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My store is a "high shrink" store. And the company won't let us tie stuff down.
The highest shrink in the country, from what I understand, is a few miles north of us on the same road. They have roll-down garage doors in front of the windows.
Someone tried to hold up the dollar store near my old store, sprayed the clerk. Clerks commenced to kick ass. Perp got away. No police got called.
Wait, I know this one, what is MLK blvd?
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Near there... Kingshighway near Page...
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Newsom stopped by.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/01/21/gov-gavin-newsom-says-parts-of-calif-resemble-a-third-world-country-but-nobody-in-particular-should-be-blamed/
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Newsom stopped by.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/01/21/gov-gavin-newsom-says-parts-of-calif-resemble-a-third-world-country-but-nobody-in-particular-should-be-blamed/
Saw that in a news story this morning. Perfect example of a self-aggrandizing photo op.
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All hail Casiodofus Rex, garbage boy
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I woder how many police officers were there as body guards.
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VDH weighs in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwaB4pWzON4
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VDH weighs in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwaB4pWzON4
Well said.
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Did I tell y'all about the grab'n'dasher (as opposed to a shoplifter, who actually tries to be stealthy) who tried to jack a couple of hundred bucks worth of tools at my last store?
One of my customers chased him down, went MMA spider monkey (best way to describe it) on the guy. I bought the dude a gift card.
People who work for their money are gradually realizing that they don't really like the folks who steal for it.
Last week, sumdood sent my front counter guy into the back looking for a radiator he allegedly wanted to purchase. Sumdood and friend grabbed about half of an engine hoist, ran it out the front door, and into the back of a waiting truck. Last year, same store, sumdood grabbed a 175# floor jack, ran out the door with it, tossed it into a car, and gone...
They got away because nobody noticed until they were already out the door.
Things are likely to get VERY nasty this coming summer.
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Did I tell y'all about the grab'n'dasher (as opposed to a shoplifter, who actually tries to be stealthy) who tried to jack a couple of hundred bucks worth of tools at my last store?
One of my customers chased him down, went MMA spider monkey (best way to describe it) on the guy. I bought the dude a gift card.
People who work for their money are gradually realizing that they don't really like the folks who steal for it.
Last week, sumdood sent my front counter guy into the back looking for a radiator he allegedly wanted to purchase. Sumdood and friend grabbed about half of an engine hoist, ran it out the front door, and into the back of a waiting truck. Last year, same store, sumdood grabbed a 175# floor jack, ran out the door with it, tossed it into a car, and gone...
They got away because nobody noticed until they were already out the door.
Things are likely to get VERY nasty this coming summer.
Wife and I watched a woman very calmly push a cart with a $500 flatscreen TV out of Walmart right before thanksgiving last year. She didn’t even hurry or walk briskly.
Loss prevention almost got to her before she made it out the door. In this sue happy world I wasn’t willing to end up *expletive deleted*ed in order to help him out.
It’s disgusting.
My Father in law who had been a store manager for Home Depot for over 20 years told me they used to beat the hell out of shoplifters, some overtly and others they’d “hit their heads” on every pallet rack on the way out the door.
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A few years ago, had sumdood working for me. He threatened myself and an employee. He got fired. Shortly thereafter he got popped stealing electronics from a walmart. i.e, he tried to take more than one TV out the front door, and got noticed. He tried to run over the responding police. They actually caught him.
He's not in jail today.
Sooner or later, it will become fashionable to do bad things to the crooks.
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A few years ago, had sumdood working for me. He threatened myself and an employee. He got fired. Shortly thereafter he got popped stealing electronics from a walmart. i.e, he tried to take more than one TV out the front door, and got noticed. He tried to run over the responding police. They actually caught him.
He's not in jail today.
Sooner or later, it will become fashionable to do bad things to the crooks.
The cops and Ms Gardener will come down like a ton of bricks on anyone who caps a crook, even in self defense. St Louis and a lot of other big cities are basically providing security for the criminals.
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Apparently Newsome mentioned that these thefts were being perpetrated by gangs...
He then proceeded to fall all over himself apologizing for uttering the apparently horribly racist *G* word and changed it to "organized groups."
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That's been going on for some time... Any mention of the "gang" thing is a "racist dog whistle."
So, from what I understand, the progressive left democrats assume that all black people are affiliated with organized crime.
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Apparently Newsome mentioned that these thefts were being perpetrated by gangs...
He then proceeded to fall all over himself apologizing for uttering the apparently horribly racist *G* word and changed it to "organized groups."
I keep telling people that Kurt Schlichter is actually writing non-fiction, rather than fiction.
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Finger Pointing Breaks Out on the Left as It’s Revealed That Guns Are Among the Loot Being Stolen From Trains in Los Angeles
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/finger-pointing-breaks-out-on-the-left-as-its-revealed-that-guns-are-among-the-loot-being-stolen-from-trains-in-los-angeles/
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As far as businesses building this into their profit margins, I don't think any of them expected to build in what we are seeing now. When being a thief meant being stealthy, there was a lot less thievery going on. When it has become a popular pastime for our urban areas, the loss models become unsustainable. If it keeps up, we'll be paying $30 for a pair of Walmart socks.
Example:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1483969058110382081
We don't need to talk about resorting to vigilante snipers. How about some non-bizarro world common sense? How is it not ridiculous that we have fallen to the point that the thieves are the ones pepper spraying the security guards instead of the other way around? And yes, this is as much the fault of the woke businesses who say "let them steal" as it is the far left DAs in the cities where this is rampant.
These thefts are so ridiculously common now because they are fun for the thieves. We don't have to resort to the binary of doing nothing or else piling bodies. How many of these thieves would still be doing this stuff if there was even a 50% chance of them being chem sprayed or tased?
Also I note that maybe the train thefts in the OP are also no longer "built in" to the business model as I see that Southern Pacific is looking at moving infrastructure out of LA because of this increase.
One option might be to pass legislation disallowing any liability for someone committing a crime or an accessory to such crime. In other words, they can't sue if they get injured by employees or others while committing a crime or escaping. Doesn't mean vigilante stuff or traps aren't still illegal, they can't sue in civil court. That might go a long way to helping some of this.
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Finger Pointing Breaks Out on the Left as It’s Revealed That Guns Are Among the Loot Being Stolen From Trains in Los Angeles
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/finger-pointing-breaks-out-on-the-left-as-its-revealed-that-guns-are-among-the-loot-being-stolen-from-trains-in-los-angeles/
I hope none of those guns were off the California gun list. That might lead to some extreme violence. ;)