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Title: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ben on February 08, 2022, 04:10:01 PM
I guess they're going this way now regarding "terror":

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The United States remains in a heightened threat environment fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories, and other forms of mis- dis- and mal-information (MDM) introduced and/or amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors. These threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest, which could potentially inspire acts of violence.

https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/national-terrorism-advisory-system-bulletin-february-07-2022

https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-dhs-declares-heightened-terrorism-threat_4264678.html
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: French G. on February 08, 2022, 04:12:51 PM
Cool, looking like we make it to another list.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ben on February 08, 2022, 04:14:25 PM
I like "malinformation". That's one of their made up words that I've not heard yet.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: WLJ on February 08, 2022, 04:16:08 PM
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The United States remains in a heightened threat environment fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories, and other forms of mis- dis- and mal-information (MDM) introduced and/or amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors. These threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest, which could potentially inspire acts of violence.

Glad they finally labeled democrats terrorists
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Jim147 on February 08, 2022, 05:29:30 PM
The constitution is an extremist threat to the govment.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: dogmush on February 08, 2022, 06:59:47 PM
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The United States remains in a heightened threat environment fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories, and other forms of mis- dis- and mal-information (MDM) introduced and/or amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors. These threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest, which could potentially inspire acts of violence.


That quote is 100% accurate.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ron on February 08, 2022, 07:13:53 PM
Somebody really really really wants the right to start pulling triggers.

I suspect if that happens the course of action against the political right embarked upon is one that has already been planned out, war gamed and refined. 

Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: dogmush on February 08, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
Everyone's pointing at the other side.  Let me ask:

If an adversary had the resources to do what that quote says is being done, why on earth would they confine their efforts to one side of our cultural divide?
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ron on February 08, 2022, 08:25:55 PM
Everyone's pointing at the other side.  Let me ask:

If an adversary had the resources to do what that quote says is being done, why on earth would they confine their efforts to one side of our cultural divide?

Working for an incredibly left wing organization for over a decade I can tell you that they hate us (the right) at the highest levels and there are plenty at the ground floor who feel the same.

So yes, they are being riled up and are organizing on the leftist divide as well.

I just see that the leftists hold all the institutions of persuasion and power. Years ago I thought law enforcement and the military were "conservative" or strongholds of the right. I've been disabused of that notion these last 5 years or so. I also see leftist movements creating mayhem and damage with no official response taking them down a notch and putting limits on their behavior. Antifa and BLM walk if they are even arrested.

One side of the equation seems to be more co-conspirators more than being covertly influenced.     

The folks on the right still think we can vote our way out of this dilemma. Those on the right who know better appear to be getting trolled, provoked and poked by those in control.

We stole the election(s), we do it all the time, c'mon boy, what ya going to do ya big pu**!

We're opening up the borders, lettin em in from all the shitholes, c'mon boy, what ya going to do ya big pu**!

Oh, you want to advocate for change online? Goodbye, you're banned/cancelled, no social media for you ...  c'mon boy, what ya going to do ya big pu**!

What? you don't like our retconning of history and the polluting of your the states children in public school, too bad ... c'mon boy, what ya going to do ya big pu**!

What? You don't like boys pretending to be girls in the bathroom/showers and in female sports? Too bad ... c'mon boy, what ya going to do ya big pu**!

I can sit here and write these all night. This crap didn't bubble up from the masses organically, it's been imposed and it's been done in a way to put folks on notice as to who is in control (not you).

All the talk about white supremacy, white nationalists and the evils of nationalism are all narrative building so that if there happens to be a backlash, they've already tarred the right. Built in narrative.

Do I believe the left is also being manipulated and influenced? Of course. They seem to like it though.

Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Boomhauer on February 08, 2022, 09:19:28 PM
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Do I believe the left is also being manipulated and influenced? Of course. They seem to like it though.

Don’t need to be manipulated when you are already complicit and a True Believer.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ron on February 08, 2022, 09:49:01 PM
Or maybe it's all just a game to the permanent bureaucracy and uniparty, they just want to see how far they can go, how much crap we will eat before they swing the pendulum back to the right and abuse the lefties for awhile.

You have to admit, Trump was great at trolling the lefties. Maybe it's all a big game to the movers and shakers. There really are two sides, just not how we are trained to think. There are those who are running the show and those who aren't.

Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Bogie on February 08, 2022, 11:26:32 PM

Do I believe the left is also being manipulated and influenced? Of course. They seem to like it though.

Hate is a strong emotion. And... It is a fun emotion. It is POWERFUL and active...
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Nick1911 on February 08, 2022, 11:35:58 PM
The OP's quote could be taken a few different ways.  I looked at the source material to see if it was more specific.

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COVID-19 mitigation measures—particularly COVID-19 vaccine and mask mandates—have been used by domestic violent extremists to justify violence since 2020 and could continue to inspire these extremists to target government, healthcare, and academic institutions that they associate with those measures.

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Some domestic violent extremists have continued to advocate for violence in response to false or misleading narratives about unsubstantiated election fraud. The months preceding the upcoming 2022 midterm elections could provide additional opportunities for these extremists and other individuals to call for violence directed at democratic institutions, political candidates, party offices, election events, and election workers.

There's also some stuff in there about ISIS, and the Texas synagogue attack.

But yea, like French said:

Cool, looking like we make it to another list.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Lennyjoe on February 09, 2022, 08:18:45 AM
Interesting….was just reading this thread and exited out for a brief moment and now it went from 3 pages to 1…..

Is censorship finding its way here?
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: WLJ on February 09, 2022, 08:24:31 AM
Interesting….was just reading this thread and exited out for a brief moment and now it went from 3 pages to 1…..

Is censorship finding its way here?

?
You must be mixing up threads, haven't seen this one go pass 1 page yet.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ben on February 09, 2022, 08:26:36 AM
Everyone's pointing at the other side.  Let me ask:

If an adversary had the resources to do what that quote says is being done, why on earth would they confine their efforts to one side of our cultural divide?

The problem is the "adversary" here seems to be domestic moreso than foreign, as the covid related language seems to insinuate. Government spokespeople, up to and including the president, are only attacking one side for covid "misinformation". If I see DHS directly address things like adversaries misdirecting origin information related to a Chinese lab leak, I'll reconsider my position.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: dogmush on February 09, 2022, 10:11:34 AM
The problem is the "adversary" here seems to be domestic moreso than foreign, as the covid related language seems to insinuate. Government spokespeople, up to and including the president, are only attacking one side for covid "misinformation". If I see DHS directly address things like adversaries misdirecting origin information related to a Chinese lab leak, I'll reconsider my position.

You misunderstand what I was saying.  The adversary[ies] are foreign*.  They are creating "an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories, and other forms of mis- dis- and mal-information (MDM)....  to exacerbate societal friction to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest, which could potentially inspire acts of violence."

The people in the federal government are among those being manipulated by this environment, and they are helping sow social discord by reacting to a view of America that has been manipulated.  As is the right wing.

We often talk about how the government, rich elites, and media live in their own world or bubble.  We need to understand that that's true, and that bubble is created and curated by folks with motivations.  Our bubble is as well.

*There are certainly US based groups doing this, but even Amazon and Google don't have nation-state scale resources to do it the way the foreign adversaries do.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ron on February 09, 2022, 10:32:49 AM
That's why I've been talking crazy sheet here these last 5 to 10 years. Before that I was a pretty vanilla classical liberal poster.

The official incoherence and cog dis out there has been ramping up for over a decade, at least that is when I really addressed it in my own life. Now I keep trying to expand my personal Overton window to understand what is going on. We are in the fog of war.

The problem is not only us, but good folks in government can only make good decisions if there is good information. Our sources of information are all polluted and I'm not confident those in government have "purer" information. It looks like everything is psy-ops anymore. Alex Jones is frequently more accurate than CNN or even FOX. We're screwed in many ways.

That's one reason why about a decade and a half ago I re-examined first principles and my philosophical/theological assumptions, getting that squared away. An accurate map of reality helps me escape the cultural and political hypnosis to which we're subjected.  That's a story for another day though. 

 
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ben on February 09, 2022, 10:43:03 AM
You misunderstand what I was saying. 

Okay, I can see that and it is food for my thoughts.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: K Frame on February 09, 2022, 11:08:40 AM
I guess that means we're our own terrorist cell.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ron on February 09, 2022, 11:14:14 AM
I guess that means we're our own terrorist cell.

How many of you guys are Feds?  [tinfoil]

You know you guys, you can still turn to God, follow Jesus and you won't be judged on judgement day for being a soldier of the globalists.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Nick1911 on February 09, 2022, 11:23:32 AM
I guess that means we're our own terrorist cell.

I think we've talked about this before, but yea - I would not be surprised to learn that APS is classified as a domestic extremist organization by elements of the federal government.  Possibly a violent domestic extremest organization due to our open discussions of firearms.  The terrorist label seems a bit far since no one here advocates for violence.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: K Frame on February 09, 2022, 11:30:34 AM
Wait... We're ALL Feds?

Well this is embarrassing...
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Ron on February 09, 2022, 11:36:07 AM
I was recruited by them, screened and even took the psychological test. They informed me that due to my passing the psychological test they were unable to use me  :-* 
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 09, 2022, 11:37:00 AM
Wait... We're ALL Feds?

Well this is embarrassing...

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Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: WLJ on February 09, 2022, 11:52:32 AM
More like

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Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: Lennyjoe on February 09, 2022, 03:12:56 PM
?
You must be mixing up threads, haven't seen this one go pass 1 page yet.



LMAO, you may be right…
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 09, 2022, 04:36:23 PM
Hate is a strong emotion. And... It is a fun emotion. It is POWERFUL and active...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyhmd7Gk4U
Title: Re: Homeland Security Releases New Terror Threat Alert
Post by: kgbsquirrel on February 09, 2022, 04:47:29 PM
I like "malinformation". That's one of their made up words that I've not heard yet.

Literally "badthink".