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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: WLJ on June 28, 2022, 09:18:22 AM
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This could effect how most government agencies operate nowadays which is essentially by executive agency fiat. If WV wins that would be ruled unconstitutional. I'm not clear on whether or not this could effect decades of rules and regulations already enacted.
One more blockbuster Supreme Court decision could still be coming even after Friday's abortion ruling
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/one-more-blockbuster-supreme-court-decision-could-still-be-coming-after-fridays-abortion-ruling
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Anyone taking bets on another 6-3 decision?
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Anyone taking bets on another 6-3 decision?
Actually meant to include something along those lines :rofl:
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The leftists are really going to be screaming lol
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I had figured it was a very long shot to get the SC to undercut federal agencies, but with the recent rulings, maybe not. Hope they limit the legislative authority of federal agencies at least some.
Back in the late 90's, Newt Gingrich's House tried to legislate a line item veto for the President. I was thinking the SC told them they could not delegate legislative powers to the executive branch. I guess I need to find out 1) if I remember that right and 2) if it was a ruling that has precedent.
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This case decision should also be released very soon and would be of interest to current and future veterans.
https://rollcall.com/2022/03/29/supreme-court-raises-concerns-over-veteran-work-protections/
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I'm not sure this one will go the way that many of us hope. The scope of changes necessary government-wide should the ruling go against the EPA would be massive. Huge upsets to a many different regulatory rice bowls.
Plus, fed.gov does not like to relinquish power once it has gained it. I'm thinking SCOTUS, being part of fed.gov, would tend to be protective of their administrative partners in crime wherever possible.
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You know what would really be great (and impossible)? For the court to rule there is no authority for the federal government to have anything to do with fuel or electricity generation at all.
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You know what would really be great (and impossible)? For the court to rule there is no authority for the federal government to have anything to do with fuel or electricity generation at all.
They got the trusty ol interstate commerce clause to smack you with.
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They got the trusty ol interstate commerce clause to smack you with.
Yeah. As well all know the interstate commerce clause was written to give the federal government the power to do anything they want.
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(not directed at you)
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The trouble is that massive disruptions of "the system" like this fall right in line with the Communists' strategy of generalized disruption in any way possible, big or small, to get to the "solution" of full scale Communist takeover.
Go ahead, call me crazy.
Boo-wah-hah-hah-haaaaaa....
Ha.
Don't ask me for a solution to this problem. The solution passed us by many decades ago.
Terry, 230RN
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You may be right. On a related note, when's the last time you disassembled and reassembled an AK-74?
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The trouble is that massive disruptions of "the system" like this fall right in line with the Communists' strategy of generalized disruption in any way possible, big or small, to get to the "solution" of full scale Communist takeover.
Go ahead, call me crazy.
Boo-wah-hah-hah-haaaaaa....
Ha.
Don't ask me for a solution to this problem. The solution passed us by many decades ago.
Terry, 230RN
Environmentalists and many Democrats have talked about artificially bumping up the price of gas for years. Biden is a full on leftist.
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You may be right. On a related note, when's the last time you disassembled and reassembled an AK-74?
Not sure of your relevance. I know I'm missing your point. I've done my share of "all the parts out on my workbench" gunsmithing, if that's what you mean.
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Don't ask me for a solution to this problem. The solution passed us by many decades ago.
Terry, 230RN
Gettin tired of this weakling, cop-out blather. I don't know the solution, either, but please don't encourage others to just give up.
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This case decision should also be released very soon and would be of interest to current and future veterans.
https://rollcall.com/2022/03/29/supreme-court-raises-concerns-over-veteran-work-protections/
I don't see how this would affect veterans. The law in question only affects reservists and National Guard. Nonetheless, it comes at a crucial time:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/every-branch-us-military-struggling-meet-2022-recruiting-goals-officia-rcna35078
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Gettin tired of this weakling, cop-out blather. I don't know the solution, either, but please don't encourage others to just give up.
You've said that before in just about the same words.
I'm sorry if you dislike my pointing out how desperate the situation is or has become. I wish only to encourage others to regroup and vigorously fight back against the insidious and deliberate attempts to whittle all rights down.
If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
Terry, 230RN
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You've said that before in just about the same words.
I'm sorry if you dislike my pointing out how desperate the situation is or has become. I wish only to encourage others to regroup and vigorously fight back against the insidious, constant, and deliberate attempts to whittle all rights down. As has been said, the Second Amendment is a litmus test.
If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
Terry, 230RN
Terry, you and your ubiquitous brethren aren't encouraging anyone to fight back. You just said the solution had passed us by. I hear that kind of talk all over the place, and that's what I'm objecting to - the notion that nothing can be done.
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You missed part of my point, which is that the erosion of all rights goes on and on. There've been (recently) some slight recognition that too many functions of government have been usurped by the Feds.
We may be able to recover 2A rights, maybe even to before 1934. It's possible.
One of the major stumbling blocks to that recovery is that return to pre-1934 status would be breaking the rice bowls af all the FFL licencees. I'm amused to think that the current (rumored) attack on FFLs might reduce that resistance to re-establishing gun rights. On the other hand, it might just establish government outlets for firearms, like liquor stores in some States.
I wish I could remember who noted that buying a gun should be like buying a hammer. You pays yer money and you takes your hammer home.
Is that blather? Our opinions differ.
Terry, 230RN
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Not sure of your relevance. I know I'm missing your point. I've done my share of "all the parts out on my workbench" gunsmithing, if that's what you mean.
It was meant to be a joke about our inevitable communist overlords.
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Gettin tired of this weakling, cop-out blather. I don't know the solution, either, but please don't encourage others to just give up.
+1
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BOOOM!!!
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/supreme-court-deals-biden-climate-agenda-serious-blow-epa-decision
[Forrest Gump voice] "And just like that, our regulatin' days was over." [/Forrest Gump voice]
Brad
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Imagine that, 6-3
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Very clear those 3 read a very different constitution from the other 6
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Now what effect is this going to have on agencies like the ATF etc and existing rules and regs?
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Now what effect is this going to have on agencies like the ATF etc and existing rules and regs?
Unfortunately that will take another several years worth of litigation to resolve.
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Good God, the Supreme Court is going nuts!
If we don't die from an illegal abortion we'll either die from their massive increase in gun violence or choke to death on their coal fume pollution...
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Now what effect is this going to have on agencies like the ATF etc and existing rules and regs?
Lays the groundwork for legal challenges to a whole host of Alphabet Agency fiat. I bet Monday sees a bunch of cases filed.
Brad
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At a NATO summit lets knock on the SC
Biden: "[T]he one thing that has been destabilizing [the world] is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States in overruling not only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy."
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1542496745371975680
Biden Attacks the Supreme Court While on Foreign Soil
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/06/30/biden-slams-outrageous-supreme-court-on-foreign-soil-n2609570
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Lays the groundwork for legal challenges to a whole host of Alphabet Agency fiat. I bet Monday sees a bunch of cases filed.
Brad
I'd take that bet :rofl:
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What a great decision. Here is the actual decision: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1530_n758.pdf
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I'd take that bet :rofl:
Doh! :facepalm:
Brad
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Biden: "[T]he one thing that has been destabilizing [the world] is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States in overruling not only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy."
The guy demanding a national gun registry is concerned with the right to privacy.
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BOOOM!!!
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/supreme-court-deals-biden-climate-agenda-serious-blow-epa-decision
[Forrest Gump voice] "And just like that, our regulatin' days was over." [/Forrest Gump voice]
Brad
Well, color me greatly surprised and greatly pleased! This may be the beginning of the end for some jackbooted regulating.
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Well, color me greatly surprised and greatly pleased! This may be the beginning of the end for some jackbooted regulating.
Nope, I predict that within 6 weeks Brandon appoints, and has confirmed, 22 slavering left-wing dogs/justices who will "correct" all of the errors made by Trump's illegitimate Supreme Court.
Within a year, abortions won't just be available, they'll be mandatory.
Guns will be banned completely.
It will be illegal to burn, or split, anything to create energy of any type.
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Darn, you're probably right. I'll curb my enthusiasm.
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What a great decision. Here is the actual decision: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1530_n758.pdf
I'm astounded at the depth of it. It really seems to cut "regulation" vs "legislation" to the quick. I expect to see this case cited for decades to come.
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It's funny how the worm turns with SCOTUS. Sometimes they lean Left, sometimes it's a toss up and sometimes they lean Right.
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Just think what that might do for alcohol, tobacco, and explosives regulation as well.
Nope, I predict that within 6 weeks Brandon appoints, and has confirmed, 22 slavering left-wing dogs/justices who will "correct" all of the errors made by Trump's illegitimate Supreme Court.
Within a year, abortions won't just be available, they'll be mandatory.
Guns will be banned completely.
It will be illegal to burn, or split, anything to create energy of any type.
Quoted for wry wisdom.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Instead of bitching about the Justices, every person in the U.S. should mail each of them a dictionary.
>:D [popcorn] :rofl: :old:
Terry, 230RN
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Just think what that might do for alcohol, tobacco, and explosives regulation as well.
Quoted for wry wisdom.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Instead of bitching about the Justices, every person in the U.S. should mail each of them a dictionary.
>:D [popcorn] :rofl: :old:
Terry, 230RN
Do you mean one of the new Woke dictionaries that are updated with the latest politically correct definitions?
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Just think what that might do for alcohol, tobacco, and explosives regulation as well.
Quoted for wry wisdom.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Instead of bitching about the Justices, every person in the U.S. should mail each of them a dictionary.
>:D [popcorn] :rofl: :old:
Terry, 230RN
Then the UPS will seize and destroy them all.