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Title: COVID-19 question
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 12, 2022, 12:42:53 PM
I have it. Verified by test. Taking medication provided by the VA hospital. I think I'm past the worst of it. So here's the question:

Today is Day 5, so tomorrow (Saturday) is day 6. According the the CDC guidelines, after Day 6 I shift from "self-isolate mode" to "mask in public mode." What the CDC guideline don't tell me is when I should burn all the bed linens and power wash the interior of the house with Lysol spray before returning to life [sort of] as normal.

Is there any useful guidance on that?
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on August 12, 2022, 12:57:11 PM
Was it worse than any other flu?

Would you do that if you had the flu?
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: dogmush on August 12, 2022, 05:56:24 PM
When I was done with my isolation time I washed the bed linens and my clothes on the "sanitize" cycle, wiped down the hard surfaces with Clorox wipes, and sprayed the Clorox spray on the hard to wipe surfaces. I have it maybe a half hour of effort and called that good enough.

I had been isolating in three rooms only though so I didn't need to do a whole house

YMMV
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Ron on August 12, 2022, 06:00:32 PM
Get a new toothbrush and tube of toothpaste.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Ben on August 12, 2022, 06:09:50 PM
I had the pre-vaccine alpha version. I did nothing different than I do for any cold or flu - washed the bedsheets and towels, which I do weekly anyway, and that's about it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Boomhauer on August 12, 2022, 06:18:40 PM
We didn’t do anything special and were just fine
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 12, 2022, 07:23:05 PM
You're gonna have to find a virgin for the sacrifice.
 
If you're in Washington, DC area, it is okay to use a goat.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 12, 2022, 07:30:58 PM
You're gonna have to find a virgin for the sacrifice.
 
If you're in Washington, DC area, it is okay to use a goat.

So, pretty much any politician, then?
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: ConstitutionCowboy on August 12, 2022, 08:02:00 PM
So, pretty much any politician, then?

I don't know about that. Is there such a thing as a worthy enough politician for it to be considered a sacrifice?  :old:

Woody
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: zxcvbob on August 12, 2022, 08:15:46 PM
You're gonna have to find a virgin for the sacrifice.
 
If you're in Washington, DC area, it is okay to use a goat.

You really think one can find a virgin goat in DC?
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Lennyjoe on August 12, 2022, 09:03:37 PM
What meds did the VA give?  I didn’t even think about getting anything other than Mucinex and a decongestant.  Wife finally tested negative this morning but I’m still positive (since Sunday).  Congestion and headaches subsided Wednesday but I still have minor nose runs and cough. 

Also have our daughter here that tested positive Wednesday so disinfecting the house now wouldn’t be much good. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 13, 2022, 02:01:27 AM
What meds did the VA give? 

Their first choice would have been Plaxovid, but that's contraindicated for patients who are on blood thinners (which I am). So they gave me INV-Molnupiravir. Five day course, 800mg x2.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: HeroHog on August 13, 2022, 02:08:06 AM
Their first choice would have been Plaxovid, but that's contraindicated for patients who are on blood thinners (which I am). So they gave me INV-Molnupiravir. Five day course, 800mg x2.

Mine was INV-MOLNUPIRAVIR 200MG ORAL CAP
TAKE FOUR CAPSULES BY MOUTH EVERY 12 HOURS FOR 5 DAYS
Same dose, different pill mg.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 13, 2022, 06:25:09 AM
So, on a scale of 1-10, with flu as 5, where'd it sit?
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 13, 2022, 12:09:57 PM
Mine was INV-MOLNUPIRAVIR 200MG ORAL CAP
TAKE FOUR CAPSULES BY MOUTH EVERY 12 HOURS FOR 5 DAYS
Same dose, different pill mg.

No, that's exactly what I've got. I skipped over taking four 200 mg capsules to get the 800mg per dose.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 13, 2022, 12:19:07 PM
So, on a scale of 1-10, with flu as 5, where'd it sit?

I'll give it an 8.

The other symptoms weren't much worse/different than garden variety flu. The fatigue was unbelievable. I'm using a ground floor bedroom that's right across a hallway from the bathroom. I would wake up needing to use the bathroom. It would take half an hour or so to muster the energy to move from lying down to sitting on the bed with my feet on the floor. Then I would just zone out and sit there -- head hanging down, hands in my lap, eyes closed. It would take another half hour or 45 minutes to generate enough energy to even open my eyes. It was crazy. I'd be like, "Okay, it's time to open my eyes and get up. Yep, gotta open my eyes. I'll do it any minute now. Yeah, just gotta get my eyes open. Any time, now. ... " And so it would go, on and on and on.

And after visiting the bathroom I would be so exhausted that I barely had the energy to make it back to the bed and collapse onto it. Sheet? Too tired to pick it up and crawl under -- just fell on top of it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Ben on August 13, 2022, 12:32:51 PM
The fatigue was unbelievable.

That's how mine was. It would take all my energy to get out of bed and take 30 steps to my recliner, where I figured I'd watch TV or something so I just wasn't laying in bed 24hrs a day, and as soon as I hit the recliner, I was out for another couple of hours. Lather, rinse, repeat.  :laugh:
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: zxcvbob on August 13, 2022, 12:48:33 PM
For future reference:  Bathroom?  That's what bedside urinals are for.  (quart small-mouth Mason jar works great for that, and is less likely to spill than a wide-mouth jar but those work too)  HTH :)
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: HeroHog on August 13, 2022, 12:55:11 PM
For future reference:  Bathroom?  That's what bedside urinals are for.  (quart small-mouth Mason jar works great for that, and is less likely to spill than a wide-mouth jar but those work too)  HTH :)

The OTHER end was the problem for us!
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Ben on August 13, 2022, 12:56:44 PM
The OTHER end was the problem for us!

Wide mouth mason jar it is then!  :rofl:
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: HeroHog on August 13, 2022, 01:09:01 PM
Yes, the exhaustion was BAD, the drowning in snot was bad, the waking up coughing "to death" because of all the snot running down your wind pipe until you have a bitching case of pleurisy is not fun AT ALL either!
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 13, 2022, 04:12:26 PM
The OTHER end was the problem for us!

ROGER THAT!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 13, 2022, 08:11:10 PM
Okayfine - I had a case of the crud, but tested negative. Pretty decent crud, all things considered. 101-2ish fever for close to two weeks.
 
When I started snotting, I put a chair next to the bed, with a pillow on the chair and hung my head over the side and dripped on an old towel face down. I don't think I aspirated much...
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Lennyjoe on August 14, 2022, 09:54:49 AM
I’m on day 7 with some minor congestion still and a productive cough.  No sinus pressure, headache or fatigue anymore.  Days1-3 we’re the worst but honestly it wasn’t much different than past sinus infections I’ve had.  I did have about a 1 degree increase in body temperature for this 3 days but am now back down to normal. 

As for meds, Mucinex and some sinus congestion meds is about all I took. 

Finally broke out of the house yesterday and went for a short 2 mile hike and lunch after with grandson and daughter.  Felt good to finally get out for some fresh air.  Playing a round of golf today.

Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 15, 2022, 12:16:06 PM
Do y'all still have a bunch of Covidians where you are? Around here, we have the college kids, the Subaru and Prious drivers, and a few older folks who probably watch too much TV - along with the youts who maybe have warrants out.
 
St. Louis City has attributed 17 deaths to the 'Rona since May 18 in the 300,000 population, last one back in mid-July, according to the administration's webjunk.
 
But it is still in the news, etc., etc...
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: zxcvbob on August 15, 2022, 12:25:53 PM
I still see a few people in masks.  I don't ask them why; it's none of my business.  I'll be taking my mom to a doctor appointment this afternoon, I plan to wear a mask while I'm there.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: MillCreek on August 15, 2022, 12:29:42 PM
Many states are still requiring everyone in a healthcare facility to mask up: employees, patients, and visitors.  We get tired of having to explain to people that state law still makes us do this.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 15, 2022, 01:24:43 PM
A few weeks back, had a guy in the store, asked why we weren't wearing masks... He, of course, was... "We've had the damn shots, most of us have had to miss work because of it, and we're tired of the mess."
 
"Well, I just tested positive..."
 
I have to admit that I let my inner Karen out...

"WHY ARE YOU IN A CAR PARTS STORE? GET OUT! GO HOME!"
 
I suspect that he wasn't actually "positive," but instead wanted to show his virtue to the world...
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Nick1911 on August 15, 2022, 01:41:00 PM
I've more or less stopped wearing masks when out and about.

That said, I have to make a one day rocket run to Chicago this week.  I'm flying, and intend to wear a mask.  Not because oh no, I'll die from covid, or virtue signaling or whatever... I've just gotten sick from being on planes before, I really would like to avoid it if possible this time.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 15, 2022, 01:43:40 PM
Just go full-face SCUBA.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Tuco on August 15, 2022, 01:48:54 PM
Just go full-face SCUBA.
He'll suffocate.
Can't take a valved tank on a commercial flight
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: MechAg94 on August 15, 2022, 01:53:59 PM
He'll suffocate.
Can't take a valved tank on a commercial flight

I am almost surprised the airlines haven't offered some sort of mask and breathing air system that is filtered air.  Buy a mask/hose for the flight and hook it up to the filtered supplied air system on board.  They already have the little blower nozzle above your head.  Not sure what certifications they might need for the air system. 

Hung over?  Pay a little extra for added oxygen. 

I guess that would get the FDA to horn in on airline regulations if they offered breathing air. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 15, 2022, 02:30:14 PM
Heh... It doesn't have to be specially filtered. It just has to say "filtered" and mention "may help possibly stop Covid-19," and the Covidians will leap for it.

Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Tuco on August 15, 2022, 02:33:56 PM
That idea has merit. As long as a mask is single use (or passenger supplied) with a blowoff valve so sleepers don't kink the hose.  Or just a nose hose like my smokey uncle Al had.
Probably other concerns too, but I like it.
 
I am almost surprised the airlines haven't offered some sort of mask and breathing air system that is filtered air.  Buy a mask/hose for the flight and hook it up to the filtered supplied air system on board.  They already have the little blower nozzle above your head.  Not sure what certifications they might need for the air system. 

Hung over?  Pay a little extra for added oxygen. 

I guess that would get the FDA to horn in on airline regulations if they offered breathing air.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: MechAg94 on August 15, 2022, 02:49:21 PM
That idea has merit. As long as a mask is single use (or passenger supplied) with a blowoff valve so sleepers don't kink the hose.  Or just a nose hose like my smokey uncle Al had.
Probably other concerns too, but I like it.
I think single use would be the only way to go with the masks.  I wouldn't want a used mask.  A less expensive disposable would be better.  With positive pressure supplied air, you don't need to seal 100%.  If it was single use, they could make sure it had some sort of backflow nozzle to prevent air going the other way if someone coughed or sneezed. 

The airlines would likely have to have someone clean every attachment point between flights. 

Not sure if this could be tied into the oxygen system cabin containment were lost.  It would also be a good way to put everyone to sleep if the had a langolier situation. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 15, 2022, 07:17:52 PM
They don't have to sterilize everything.
 
They just have to say that they do.
 
You know, like your formerly 24 hour grocery store now spends the time between 10pm and 6am doing...
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Boomhauer on August 15, 2022, 07:22:24 PM
Any and all mods must be FAA approved PLUS such a system would be useless weight and expense.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 15, 2022, 07:32:13 PM
Expense? The Covidians would PAY to use it...
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: MechAg94 on August 16, 2022, 09:10:50 AM
Any and all mods must be FAA approved PLUS such a system would be useless weight and expense.
They already have an onboard air system and already have those blower nozzles at every seat.  Yes, it is an extra, but probably no more than a lot of other luxury stuff they have.  I don't expect something like this any time soon. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: dogmush on August 16, 2022, 09:15:59 AM
The cabin air on a passenger aircraft is already pretty dang filtered, and changed out every couple minutes. 

I can't imagine that people that balked at cloth masks on airplanes will gladly line up to have super dry cabin air fed into their faces.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: MechAg94 on August 16, 2022, 09:30:01 AM
The cabin air on a passenger aircraft is already pretty dang filtered, and changed out every couple minutes. 

I can't imagine that people that balked at cloth masks on airplanes will gladly line up to have super dry cabin air fed into their faces.
Supplied air masks are much easier to breath in than passive masks where you have to suck the air through the mask.

I doubt it would get a lot of takers right away.  Just thinking it would be better than everyone wearing cloth masks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 16, 2022, 10:44:57 AM
The people who want everyone to wear masks, and who still point horrified fingers at others about that, will PAY to do it...
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: dogmush on August 16, 2022, 10:50:57 AM
The people who want everyone to wear masks, and who still point horrified fingers at others about that, will PAY to do it...

I doubt it, I'm pretty sure those are the same aholes that bring everything they own on vacation, refuse to pay baggage fees, and then try and stuff their oversized duffle bag in an overhead compartment, while loudly proclaiming it's a "personal item".  They won't pay for it, they'll cry that it isn't both free and required.
Title: Re: COVID-19 question
Post by: Bogie on August 16, 2022, 10:56:19 AM
Ah, but the Branch Covidians want _safety_. Or at least the illusion...
 
They're still wearing masks. And a bunch of 'em still do the 6' dance... I've seen one of them throwing stuff on the conveyor at a grocery, to avoid getting near it... Saw another at the same grocery wiping down the self-checkout...