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Title: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Ben on August 18, 2022, 08:51:18 AM
I thought this was interesting regarding current federal EV tax credits:

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/electric-car-tax-credit-vehicles-qualify

I get the "US only" thing, though for an administration pushing EVs as strongly as this one, you'd think they would want people buying EVs regardless of where they come from. I guess the unions won here.

Also, does anyone else notice a missing US EV manufacturer?
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: MechAg94 on August 18, 2022, 09:49:38 AM
Ford raises price of electric F-150 Lightning by up to $8,500 due to ‘significant’ battery cost increases
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/09/ford-increasing-price-of-electric-f-150-lightning-.html


Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Ben on August 18, 2022, 10:23:11 AM
Ford raises price of electric F-150 Lightning by up to $8,500 due to ‘significant’ battery cost increases
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/09/ford-increasing-price-of-electric-f-150-lightning-.html

[Old Guy] My 1984 Jeep Comanche, new off the dealer lot, cost me $8000. Now batteries just to run a vehicle cost more than that. [/Old Guy]
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Ron on August 18, 2022, 10:25:25 AM
The country is run by grifters at every level.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: K Frame on August 18, 2022, 10:34:14 AM
Ford raises price of electric F-150 Lightning by up to $8,500 due to ‘significant’ battery cost increases
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/09/ford-increasing-price-of-electric-f-150-lightning-.html






I'm sure Pete Buddi... Butte... Butterhead will propose a government subsidy to make electric vehicles more affordable for people who can't afford them.

Or something bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit something.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: HankB on August 18, 2022, 10:53:12 AM
So you'll be paying the old, unsubsidized price for a new EV with the rebate basically going into the auto maker's coffers.

The rebate and price increases dovetail so well, it's almost as if that was the plan from the beginning and .gov coordinated with the auto makers.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 18, 2022, 12:32:46 PM
[Old Guy] My 1984 Jeep Comanche, new off the dealer lot, cost me $8000. Now batteries just to run a vehicle cost more than that. [/Old Guy]

[Old pedant]Hang onto the 1984 Comanche. It's rare, considering the Comanche didn't come out until 1986.[/Old pedant]

Your point is well-taken, however.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Ben on August 18, 2022, 12:46:08 PM
[Old pedant]Hang onto the 1984 Comanche. It's rare, considering the Comanche didn't come out until 1986.[/Old pedant]

Your point is well-taken, however.

Okay, 86. Gimme a break, my mind is going.  =D
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: K Frame on August 18, 2022, 01:21:06 PM
I'm going to be hanging onto my 2015 Subaru Forester for absolutely as long as I can.

Not only is it dinosaur powered, it actually has THREE floor pedals, just as God himself intended.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: lee n. field on August 18, 2022, 03:25:08 PM
I'm going to be hanging onto my 2015 Subaru Forester for absolutely as long as I can.

Not only is it dinosaur powered, it actually has THREE floor pedals, just as God himself intended.

built in theft deterrent.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: BobR on August 18, 2022, 03:34:00 PM
I'm going to be hanging onto my 2015 Subaru Forester for absolutely as long as I can.

Not only is it dinosaur powered, it actually has THREE floor pedals, just as God himself intended.

God actually intended that there be 4 floor pedals but then someone got the idea of making a multi position rotary switch with a momentary position. ;)

bob
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Jim147 on August 18, 2022, 03:36:41 PM
God actually intended that there be 4 floor pedals but then someone got the idea of making a multi position rotary switch with a momentary position. ;)

bob

I remember those.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Tuco on August 18, 2022, 03:44:16 PM
God actually intended that there be 4 floor pedals but then someone got the idea of making a multi position rotary switch with a momentary position. ;)

bob

Two toggles and a momentary HD push button (in the headliner) for coolness points.
Being able to modify it to such a configuration in spirit with the thread.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: K Frame on August 18, 2022, 04:50:38 PM
God actually intended that there be 4 floor pedals but then someone got the idea of making a multi position rotary switch with a momentary position. ;)

bob

OK, for the life of me, I can't figure out what you're referring to.

At first I thought you meant the old foot-operated emergency break, but that doesn't seem to fit the description.

Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 18, 2022, 04:55:14 PM
I'm going to be hanging onto my 2015 Subaru Forester for absolutely as long as I can.

Not only is it dinosaur powered, it actually has THREE floor pedals, just as God himself intended.


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This one still runs on points, probably survive the EMP.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4841/31169611107_55b3a95811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pumps4)
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: zxcvbob on August 18, 2022, 05:16:53 PM

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This one still runs on points, probably survive the EMP.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4841/31169611107_55b3a95811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pumps4)

My '76 Chevy had electronic ignition, but when that failed I ripped it all out and put in an old-fashioned breaker point ignition from a '74 model.  (oddly enough it made no difference in fuel economy)  I think that truck would survive an EMP.  Not sure if it's still on the road; wife made me sell it when the body started rusting off of it.  Mechanically it was still in great shape, and the rust wasn't really attacking the frame that much.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Jim147 on August 18, 2022, 05:44:44 PM
OK, for the life of me, I can't figure out what you're referring to.

At first I thought you meant the old foot-operated emergency break, but that doesn't seem to fit the description.



The starter was on the floor looked about like the old headlight dimmer switch.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 18, 2022, 05:55:16 PM
My M715 has the dimmer switch in the floor and the original engine* had a foot operated starter. Which even in 1968 was a bit on the archaic side.

* One of the previous owners swapped out the OE AMC 230ci straight 6 "Tornado" and associated transmission for a GM 292 straight 6 and the SM420 granny low 4-speed.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: BobR on August 18, 2022, 07:30:31 PM
OK, for the life of me, I can't figure out what you're referring to.

At first I thought you meant the old foot-operated emergency break, but that doesn't seem to fit the description.

The 53 GMC 1 ton farm truck I learned to drive on had the 4 pedals. L > R   Clutch, brake, go peda and closest to the center was a pedal that made to new fangled electric starter spin up.

(https://carbiketech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Floor-Stater-Lever-01.jpg)


bob
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 18, 2022, 07:51:45 PM
My '54 Chevy 1/2 ton had the floor button starter.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 18, 2022, 08:20:39 PM
My M715 has the dimmer switch in the floor and the original engine* had a foot operated starter. Which even in 1968 was a bit on the archaic side.

Heck, even my grandfather's 1948 Hudson had a push button for the starter on the dashboard. The dimmer switch was still on the floor, though. I had a 1946 and a 1947 Hudson pickup -- those were the old, pre-war design. Don't remember where the starter was located.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: zxcvbob on August 18, 2022, 08:30:53 PM
When I was a tyke, my dad had an old Ford 1/2-ton stepside pickup, probably from the 50's.  I'm pretty sure it had the starter button on the floor; I think it was on the left side.  That could also be a false memory (the starter, not the truck) and I'm remembering the dimmer switch.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Bogie on August 18, 2022, 09:12:37 PM
The real question is...
 
What company has sold the most electric vehicles, and why is it hated so much?
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: BobR on August 18, 2022, 09:19:12 PM
The real question is...
 
What company has sold the most electric vehicles, and why is it hated so much?

Oh no, we aren't going back on topic that easy!!!!!  :rofl:


bob
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: Jim147 on August 18, 2022, 09:28:26 PM
To get back off topic, then there are the ones that have it across from reverse on the stick shifter. 1-2, 3-4, S-R.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: French G. on August 18, 2022, 10:27:33 PM
I still have one floor mounted dimmer switch. Glad that feature left ever since trying to drive overnight with an ankle freshly plated, screwed and stitched together.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: JTHunter on August 19, 2022, 01:34:25 AM


I'm sure Pete Buddi... Butte... Butterhead Buttlicker will propose a government subsidy to make electric vehicles more affordable for people who can't afford them.

Or something bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit something.

FIFY  >:D
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: K Frame on August 19, 2022, 07:16:58 AM
The starter was on the floor looked about like the old headlight dimmer switch.

OK, I'd forgotten that the starter used to be on the floor on older cars. But that wasn't really a pedal, was it? It was basically a switch.

I figured it wasn't taking about the headlight dimmer because that was a button switch, not a pedal.

My first car, a 1977 Ford Maverick, had a floor mounted headlight dimmer switch.

I never had a car with points and condenser ignition. My Maverick had an early electronic ignition.

Dad had a 1972 International Harvester Scout II that had points and condenser. That's my only experience with one of those.
Title: Re: EV Tax Credits
Post by: K Frame on August 19, 2022, 07:21:55 AM
The real question is...
 
What company has sold the most electric vehicles, and why is it hated so much?


Alex, I'd like to say Baker?

(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.yewVEYX628MYxJzQPCrPBgHaFj?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)