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Title: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 28, 2022, 02:32:24 PM
I finally bought the LCP Max I've been mulling for a few months now. I figure a kydex holster will be thinner/less printy in the pocket than the cloth or leather type. Right?

Looking at this one.
https://www.vedderholsters.com/pocket-locker-holster/

I like that that one can be ordered with a "tab," an extension to the sweat shield, so the holster can be pushed off with the thumb.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: lee n. field on August 28, 2022, 03:32:29 PM
I finally bought the LCP Max I've been mulling for a few months now. I figure a kydex holster will be thinner/less printy in the pocket than the cloth or leather type. Right?

For thin and unprinty, check out Mika.
 (https://mikaspocketholsters.com/)
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Looking at this one.
https://www.vedderholsters.com/pocket-locker-holster/

I like that that one can be ordered with a "tab," an extension to the sweat shield, so the holster can be pushed off with the thumb.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 28, 2022, 04:13:47 PM
For thin and unprinty, check out Mika.
 (https://mikaspocketholsters.com/)

How are those made?
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: K Frame on August 28, 2022, 04:46:17 PM
"For thin and unprinty, check out Mika."

Uhm... Da fuq?

It asked me for the MAKE of my firearm...

I typed in Smith & Wesson and hit enter....

It added a holster to my cart.

Uhm... just WTF fits in that holster? It never gave me options for a model.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: K Frame on August 28, 2022, 04:48:36 PM
Same thing with the waistband holster... No ability to pick the freaking model of the gun that you're going to stuff in the holster.

It must be a technical problem with the website. At least I hope to hell that it is.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: BobR on August 28, 2022, 05:13:42 PM
Same thing with the waistband holster... No ability to pick the freaking model of the gun that you're going to stuff in the holster.

It must be a technical problem with the website. At least I hope to hell that it is.


Or they are just assuming you are going to be carrying a J frame instead of stuffing an N frame into your pocket. Website (owners/developers) shouldn't make assumptions. They can be wrong too many times. ;)

bob
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 28, 2022, 05:17:23 PM
What I don't like about the website is that it says the holsters are, "solidly constructed of a combination of lightweight materials," but doesn't say what those materials are.

But they must be better than this thing.

http://jacksonleatherwork.com/2015/02/great-quality-holster/

Can't imagine how that one works.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 28, 2022, 05:20:55 PM
I think when it asks which make, it intends you to enter the model as well.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Unisaw on August 28, 2022, 05:51:08 PM
For a thin Kydex holster that doesn’t print, try Aholster.

https://aholster.com/pocket-aholster/
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: 230RN on August 28, 2022, 05:53:33 PM
N=1

Kydex skeletonized OWB holster for Kahr CW-9. Came with the gun.

Need a fork lift to draw it.

Decided I did not like molded holsters.   But they look cool.  Gave up trying to unprint autos in pocket, so I carry a laser-sighted J-frame without a holster, just looks like a pocketful of junk with the cylinder disrupting the gun's lines.  Also reduces "tactical as all get-out and ready for a small war with a chip on my shoulder" look if I'm investigated.
 
I do carry a five-shot speed loader in the other pocket which actually is full of junk. I figure if I need 5 + 5 I've got a problem I can't solve with a gun.  Yeah, I know, the speed loader is "tactical," but "forgivably tactical" since hey, I've only got a little rinky-dinky 5-shooter, Officer.  (Or DA.)  Think, like HeroHog, "I might not last very long or be very effective but I'll be a real pain in the ass for a minute!
MOLON LABE!"

On the other hand, retired, and I no longer circulate in areas where I might need any shots.

=D

N=1

N is me.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Bogie on August 28, 2022, 06:03:54 PM
The G43 is in the right pocket. Weekends, there is sometimes the J-frame in the left pocket. Some weekend nights, the shirttail is no longer inside the pants...
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: MechAg94 on August 28, 2022, 07:35:11 PM
I think when it asks which make, it intends you to enter the model as well.
That is what I was thinking.  The site does say they are "custom handmade holsters".
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: RocketMan on August 28, 2022, 10:38:57 PM
The G43 is in the right pocket. Weekends, there is sometimes the J-frame in the left pocket. Some weekend nights, the shirttail is no longer inside the pants...

Is the G43 in something that protects the trigger while it's in your pocket, or do you not have a round in the chamber?
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: K Frame on August 29, 2022, 06:58:56 AM
That is what I was thinking.  The site does say they are "custom handmade holsters".

Shitty site instructions. I wonder how many customers he:

1. Has to reach out to to figure out what he's making, and

2. Has lost because they don't want to deal with guessing game websites.

As of right now I'm in category 2. I'm not going to assume that he's a better holster maker than he is in planning out a website. For too many quality holsters from far too many quality makers without having to head scratch it out.

Every time I think I'm finally going to try out a kydex holster I end up circling back and buying a leather holster. Just have never been able to make that leap.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: DittoHead on August 29, 2022, 09:05:33 AM
For a thin Kydex holster that doesn’t print, try Aholster.

https://aholster.com/pocket-aholster/

This is what I use for my LCP, I like it.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2022, 06:15:49 PM
Or I could go this route:

https://bsholster.com/
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: 230RN on August 29, 2022, 07:37:09 PM
Or I could go this route:

https://bsholster.com/

I've often thought that shooting through my pants pocket was an unlikely happening, but a tactical option if I was ready to accept possible injury from muzzle blast and a slight disruption of the trajectory.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 30, 2022, 05:15:53 PM
Ignoring all your fine advice, I have ordered the Vedder holster from the OP. It just makes sense to me, because it has a back-up method (the tab), in case the holster doesn’t come off the gun during the draw. There are some other makers that do the same, but the Vedder lays flat, instead of sticking out toward the wearer’s thigh.

There are a lot of people (on other sites) recommending the Mika holsters, but it’s weird that he doesn’t talk about what they’re made of. Also, a holster like that intentionally has no retention, which I don’t quite understand.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: 230RN on August 30, 2022, 06:01:19 PM
Well, frankly I don't understand the use of a pocket holster anyway. The one exception was where my winter coat pockets were too large and the gun would turn upside-down in there.  So experimentally, I fashioned a "holster" out of cardboard to prevent that and it worked pretty well but I never transferred the design to leather.

I've made a couple of holsters from "farmer's packs" of leather from the farm store for field carry (long before CCW became an option in Colorado.)  My best design was for my 1911 whose design goal was to be made out of one piece of leather.  Note even the stitching and retaining loop was with leather thong.  The retention strap can be kept under the hammer for Condition 1 carry.

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: K Frame on August 30, 2022, 06:55:43 PM
I love pocket holsters. I've carried either a Taurus PT-22 or a Smith 042 in pocket holsters for over 20 years.

Great way to carry a small gun.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Ben on August 30, 2022, 07:03:16 PM
Well, frankly I don't understand the use of a pocket holster anyway.

Carry a striker fired gun without external safeties in your pocket without a holster for a while, and eventually you'll understand what a pocket holster is for, though it might be an uncomfortable lesson.  =)
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: lee n. field on August 30, 2022, 07:27:59 PM
Ignoring all your fine advice, I have ordered the Vedder holster from the OP. It just makes sense to me, because it has a back-up method (the tab), in case the holster doesn’t come off the gun during the draw. There are some other makers that do the same, but the Vedder lays flat, instead of sticking out toward the wearer’s thigh.

There are a lot of people (on other sites) recommending the Mika holsters, but it’s weird that he doesn’t talk about what they’re made of. Also, a holster like that intentionally has no retention, which I don’t quite understand.

Here's mine.  The material is thin and "mostly stiff".  You can see that it's partially formed to the gun.  (Desantis Nemesis, my usual goto for pocket holsters, also does this.  But, the material is thicker.)

Retention is from sitting deep in a pocket.

I got this in, probably, 2009.  In intermittent use since, whenever my shifting whim has me carrying the Taurus 605.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 30, 2022, 10:11:48 PM
Here's mine.  The material is thin and "mostly stiff".  You can see that it's partially formed to the gun.  (Desantis Nemesis, my usual goto for pocket holsters, also does this.  But, the material is thicker.)

Retention is from sitting deep in a pocket.

I got this in, probably, 2009.  In intermittent use since, whenever my shifting whim has me carrying the Taurus 605.

That is the first photo of a Mika holster I've seen that makes them look thin. The photos on his website make them seem very bulky.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Lennyjoe on August 31, 2022, 10:29:17 PM
I’ve tried pocket carry in shorts and jeans with a P365 and a Hellcat and always go back to IWB instead. 
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 01, 2022, 02:02:24 AM
I’ve tried pocket carry in shorts and jeans with a P365 and a Hellcat and always go back to IWB instead.

What went wrong?
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: K Frame on September 01, 2022, 07:19:30 AM
The skinny jeans you share with your wife not pocket holster friendly, Lenny?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Lennyjoe on September 01, 2022, 06:11:46 PM
The skinny jeans you share with your wife not pocket holster friendly, Lenny?  :laugh:

Ugh, I guess I need to go wardrobe shopping then….. :rofl:
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Lennyjoe on September 01, 2022, 06:13:14 PM
What went wrong?

Just doesn’t feel comfortable for me.  Used to carry a KelTec P11 way back in the day occasionally but went right back to IWB.
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: 230RN on September 01, 2022, 08:31:56 PM
Carry a striker fired gun without external safeties in your pocket without a holster for a while, and eventually you'll understand what a pocket holster is for, though it might be an uncomfortable lesson.  =)

Sorry, Ben.  that sounds like dogma to me.  What's  your finger doing on the trigger during the draw anyway?

Telll ya, true, and I've mentioned this before, I get spooked putting a DAO pistol in a holster anyway.

Nonsense.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Kydex pocket holsters?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 03, 2023, 08:16:38 PM
So it took until the following spring, but I finally started carrying my pocket gun. The funny thing is, it's not a pocket gun. I'm carrying it at 4 o'clock, like my other carry guns.

I just didn't see a feasible way to get around the difficulty of drawing from a pocket, from a seated position, especially in a car. Then again, I can still carry it in my pocket, as a back-up gun. For summer, though, it's going to be my main gun.