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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: K Frame on October 26, 2022, 09:57:16 AM
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Fetterman has, for months, been refusing to debate Dr. Oz.
Well, he finally agreed, and it kicked off last night.
From all accounts, it didn't go well for him. He stumbled over his words, he had trouble forumulating answers, and he even, by some accounts, appeared to be confused.
But now he and his camp are blaming the closed captioning system of being filled with errors...
And the company that ran the system is not taking that lying down...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nexstar-refutes-fetterman-campaigns-claims-closed-captioning-filled-errors
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I saw a few snippets. That was horrifying.
I compare Fetterman to Biden. In many ways, he is a pawn of the radical left. Just as they pushed an incompetent Biden to run, they pushed an incapable Fetterman to run. Worse, unlike hiding Biden's dementia, they highlight Fetterman's disability.
There's nothing wrong (and many things right) with urging the disabled to do productive things in society. However, being a governor is the wrong productive job to push on someone with the disabilities connected to stroke victims. The left is pushing this as, "If you don't support Fetterman, then you're an extremist bigot fascist!"
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Even better, the liberal media is saying that Fetterman's performance was hard to watch.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/oz-fetterman-debate-liberal-media-admits-democrat-candidate-painful
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Crap. I missed the target. Would an admin please move this thread to Polisquwaks?
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But now he and his camp are blaming the closed captioning system of being filled with errors...
Hacked by the Russians
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A senior Democratic official in Pennsylvania told Axios: “I wished Fetterman was in a better place to clap back. Overall, I argue it wasn’t great for us but still a draw. Remember in these next few weeks that Oz’s campaign is spending tens of millions of dollars against a man with a major medical condition.”
Defending John Fetterman from Dr. Oz, ‘senior Democratic official’ makes compelling argument … against Fetterman
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/10/26/defending-john-fetterman-from-dr-oz-senior-democratic-official-makes-compelling-argument-against-fetterman/
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nteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
PA Senate Betting Trends by @PredictIt
August 29:
(D) Fetterman — 75c
(R) Mehmet Oz — 26c
Before Tonight's Debate:
(R) Mehmet Oz — 53c
(D) Fetterman — 48c
AFTER The Debate:
(R) Mehmet Oz — 63c
(D) Fetterman — 38c
✅Net Swing Towards Oz: +74c
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/26/cbs-mornings-recap-of-oz-fettermans-fiery-debate-was-quite-generous-to-the-democrat/
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I found the debate carried live on one of the minor cable channels. Fetterman's performance was really bad, but maybe not quite as bad as some people were expecting. He had some talking points that had been drilled into him which he mostly remembered, but at other times it was obvious that he was struggling to verbalize his responses which were sometimes very confused.
The moderators mostly did OK, but they spent a disproportionate time on abortion, which is somewhere between 6th and 19th place in voter issue importance surveys. (Oz was mostly pro life, Fetterman was not.)
Both candidates could have handled a question about Social Security better, but Oz was coherent and Fetterman . . . not so much.
Some critics said Oz was talking fast in order to make it hard on the closed captioning people - the big meanie wasn't trying to make his opponent look good.
Bottom line - aside from policy differences (which favor Oz), Fetterman - even with the crutch of closed captioning - does not appear to have the cognitive abilities we hope to see in our leaders. (Point fingers at Brandon, Feinstein, et.al.)
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Just clarifying what appears to be a common mistake or misapprehension some have: Fetterman and Oz are running for Senate, not governor.
I'm really not sure how much sympathy I should have for people like Biden or Fetterman. Sure, they're being exploited; maybe even abused by their own family. On the other hand, they have given over their whole lives to destroying the lives and freedoms of their supposed countrymen. Not to mention all the blood on their hands from abortion, or from victims of the street crime they encourage. They are some very evil people.
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Just clarifying what appears to be a common mistake or misapprehension some have: Fetterman and Oz are running for Senate, not governor.
Right, sorry. I don't know why I'm thinking "governor". I guess because Fetterman is Lt Governor.
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The news isn't all bad for Fetterman:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fetterman-raises-1-million-in-three-hours-after-train-wreck-debate-with-oz-campaign-says
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I saw mention of this on Crowder from yesterday when they were talking about the debate. Interesting.
Fetterman defends pulling shotgun on Black jogger in 2013, but explains why he would would not do it now
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fetterman-defends-pulling-shotgun-black-jogger-2013-explains-why-he-would-would-not-do-now
Fetterman once pulled a shotgun on a black jogger — yet Democrats are supporting him?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/fetterman-once-pulled-a-shotgun-on-a-black-jogger-yet-democrats-are-supporting-him
According to multiple reports, in 2013, while Fetterman was mayor of Braddock, Pennsylvania, he suspected a black man he saw jogging of committing a crime. Rather than call the police, Fetterman, a beacon of racial equality, chose to follow him in a pickup truck and pull a 20-gauge shotgun on him when he confronted the man. Fetterman used the gun to detain him until police arrived. Ultimately, the man was not involved in any wrongdoing.
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When how bad you did in a debate is the top story on BBCNews.com, yeah, it was bad.
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I thought for sure Pennsylvania Republicans were going to score an own goal with Oz. Even if he wins I’m not convinced he won’t turn into an own goal anyway. But Fetterman has been an unbelievable gift to the GOP chances this election.
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I saw mention of this on Crowder from yesterday when they were talking about the debate. Interesting.
Fetterman defends pulling shotgun on Black jogger in 2013, but explains why he would would not do it now
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fetterman-defends-pulling-shotgun-black-jogger-2013-explains-why-he-would-would-not-do-now
Fetterman once pulled a shotgun on a black jogger — yet Democrats are supporting him?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/fetterman-once-pulled-a-shotgun-on-a-black-jogger-yet-democrats-are-supporting-him
Did you know that guy says he's voting for Fetterman?
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Guess they expected Oz to just roll over and play dead and let Fetterman win otherwise he's a bully.
MSNBC columnist says Dr. Mehmet Oz ‘just gave a masterclass on how to bully people with disabilities’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/26/msnbc-columnist-says-dr-mehmet-oz-just-gave-a-masterclass-on-how-to-bully-people-with-disabilities/
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SWMBO and I caught a few minutes at lunch. It was awful. Fetterman is a doddering incompetent, or at least that's how he came across. His appearance and demeanor are that of some thug who's attorney dressed up for a court date.
Brad
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There were at least a couple of Democrats that responded to the debate by asking, "why did he agree to a debate?" Um, isn't that exactly like asking why he (or his wife/handler) decided he should run for Senate?
(Yes, I know he started running prior to the stroke, but his campaign could have bowed out before the primary.)
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(Yes, I know he started running prior to the stroke, but his campaign could have bowed out before the primary.)
I wonder what he was like before the stroke? I was just reading that he was the mayor of some city and that he ran it into the ground, so he might not have been all that capable before the stroke.
I try not to judge on appearance (much), but Brad kinda nailed it for me. I also thought he looked like he was in the suit his public defender bought him.
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I guess Fetterman's communication style is rubbing off on other dems. :rofl:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1585372741917888514
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/26/which-is-worse-a-wh-reporters-softball-question-about-john-fetterman-or-kjps-answer/
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I wonder what he was like before the stroke? I was just reading that he was the mayor of some city and that he ran it into the ground, so he might not have been all that capable before the stroke.
I try not to judge on appearance (much), but Brad kinda nailed it for me. I also thought he looked like he was in the suit his public defender bought him.
He’s currently the Lt Governor. I’m sure there plenty of data on his capacity before the stroke.
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What's important here is that this is yet another example of a far right wing extremist bullying and attacking a disabled person.
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PA Senate Candidate Reminds Everyone That 'Fetterman' Is The Name Of The Doctor Who Created Him, Not His Actual Name
https://babylonbee.com/news/pa-senate-candidate-reminds-everyone-that-fetterman-is-the-name-of-the-doctor-who-created-him-not-his-actual-name
Despite years of pop culture and political reporting using the misnomer "Fetterman" to refer to the hastily-constructed Democrat behemoth, fans of the source material have long called for the Pennsylvania Senate candidate to be called "the creature" or "Fetterman's monster" rather than "Fetterman." Some of the more astute onlookers have raised the question of whether Dr. Fetterman himself is morally culpable for creating a giant zombie from exhumed corpses and then abandoning his creation. These anti-Fetterman fans have summed up their stance with the pithy phrase: "Knowledge is knowing ‘Fetterman' isn't the monster, but wisdom is knowing that ‘Fetterman' is the monster."
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He’s currently the Lt Governor. I’m sure there plenty of data on his capacity before the stroke.
I've seen some video clips. He wasn't anything like that.
If you're new to Fetterman, the scuttlebutt is that he lived with his parents, until his sister sold him a house for a dollar. His parents gave him an allowance while he was mayor, as the job paid peanuts. Sounds like he's mostly lived off them. It's been reported he only occasionally showed up for his mayoral duties. The town council/board/whatever didn't like him very much. (He was kind of an outsider to the town, so no wonder.)
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PA Senate Candidate Reminds Everyone That 'Fetterman' Is The Name Of The Doctor Who Created Him, Not His Actual Name
https://babylonbee.com/news/pa-senate-candidate-reminds-everyone-that-fetterman-is-the-name-of-the-doctor-who-created-him-not-his-actual-name
The Bee are based legends. That was amazing.
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And Keith Olberman is absolutely losing his *expletive deleted*it over the coverage of the Fetterman debacle.
He's screeching about NBC now being a voice for Republican talking points and...
He's decrying the use of anonymous sources.
The man whose "coverage" in the lead up to the 2016 election was essentially one huge anonymous source.
I absolutely LOVE bitter liberal tears...
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Anyone know of any updated polls done since the debate? I'm not finding anything.
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And Keith Olberman is absolutely losing his *expletive deleted*it over the coverage of the Fetterman debacle.
I absolutely LOVE bitter liberal tears...
I've actually come to enjoy reading Olberman's rants for the entertainment value. He is the textbook definition of an internet bully, constantly threatening to beat people up while he sits at his computer typing all that stuff with his weakling noodle arms. My 10 year old grand niece could kick that guys ass with one hand tied behind her back.
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I just get, and have always gotten, the feeling that leaving young girls unattended around him is a very, very, VERY bad idea...
The guy just exudes pedophile stalker pervert...
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Yeah, he definitely has the look of the guy who drives the "free candy" van. Creepy.
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I just get, and have always gotten, the feeling that leaving young girls unattended around him is a very, very, VERY bad idea...
The guy just exudes pedophile stalker pervert...
Yeah, he definitely has the look of the guy who drives the "free candy" van. Creepy.
Combine that with his mental impairments and he is almost the perfect dem 2024 candidate. Only things missing, so far, are a dress and high heels.
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"We're sorry to hear that the Fetterman campaign was unhappy with how the closed captioning system that they requested was working on Tuesday," said Brittany Yanick, the Oz campaign's communications director, in a statement Thursday morning. "We're happy to do a second debate any time, and let the Fetterman campaign source a closed captioner that they believe is of better quality," Yanick offered.
[popcorn]
Oz Calls Fetterman's Bluff, Offers Do-Over Debate
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/10/27/oz-offers-fetterman-a-do-over-debate-n2615100
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I was just coming here to post that!
Holy crap, the Fetterman camp must be absolutely shitting themselves... :rofl: :rofl:
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During any additional debate, Fetterman probably wants some competent person in his camp to provide him with answers - call it a live teleprompter - which he may be able to read directly during the debate.
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During any additional debate, Fetterman probably wants some competent person in his camp to provide him with answers - call it a live teleprompter - which he may be able to read directly during the debate.
Hire the guy who did this for the teleprompter
https://youtu.be/L1JYHNX8pdo?t=6
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During any additional debate, Fetterman probably wants some competent person in his camp to provide him with answers - call it a live teleprompter - which he may be able to read directly during the debate.
The condition should be that the closed captioning system is recorded by the R side. Not that Oz can see it during the debate, but that it is recorded and R's can show it if someone is feeding him answers.
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So I guess this is where we are:
The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Whatever voters ultimately decide at the polls, Fetterman’s performance marks something of a milestone for the disability community, which remains underrepresented at every level of elected office.
Because lets put mentally defective* people in critical roles and roles that require quick thought, action, and responsibility. There are simply certain jobs that require either physical superiority, mental acuity, or both. Saying that "anyone can do anything" will lead to disaster, or even death.
* I know that term sounds cruel, but it's accurate. It's not a knock on people who have physical or mental disabilities. It's a statement of fact that certain jobs require certain minimum abilities, and going all Harrison Bergeron is going to be extremely detrimental to society. There are plenty of other jobs that disabled people can and should be encouraged to do - even critical jobs - that don't put others at risk. For that matter, we have a number of elected officials with physical disabilities (which don't affect what a politician does), so you can't say the disabled aren't represented.
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"Whatever voters ultimately decide at the polls, Fetterman’s performance marks something of a milestone for the disability community, which remains underrepresented at every level of elected office."
sweet jeebus... ???
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If you ran a dog turd under the democrat banner the Washington Post would endorse it.
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"Whatever voters ultimately decide at the polls, Fetterman’s performance marks something of a milestone for the disability community, which remains underrepresented at every level of elected office."
sweet jeebus... ???
I really doubt they have ever said that about Gov Abbott in Texas who rides a wheelchair most of the time.
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Hire the guy who did this for the teleprompter
https://youtu.be/L1JYHNX8pdo?t=6
I thought it was this one: https://youtu.be/vk4DYTPPpfs?t=65
(NSFW language)
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I just get, and have always gotten, the feeling that leaving young girls unattended around him is a very, very, VERY bad idea...
The guy just exudes pedophile stalker pervert...
Fetterman or Olberman?
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Fetterman or Olberman?
Olberman.
I don't get that vibe from Fetterman.
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I really doubt they have ever said that about Gov Abbott in Texas who rides a wheelchair most of the time.
Of course not. They're celebrating the fact that he's a crip.
Oh, man...
Fetterman vs Abbot.
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"Whatever voters ultimately decide at the polls, Fetterman’s performance marks something of a milestone for the disability community, which remains underrepresented at every level of elected office."
sweet jeebus... ???
And pro football teams should start drafting paraplegics for quarterback, too.
The ADA requires employers to make "reasonable accommodation," so let's see the NFL step up.
Oh, and the NBA and major league baseball, too.
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Anyone know of any updated polls done since the debate? I'm not finding anything.
Pennsylvania voters so ableist.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/10/27/a-new-poll-is-in-and-its-not-good-for-fetterman-n650090
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And pro football teams should start drafting paraplegics for quarterback, too.
The ADA requires employers to make "reasonable accommodation," so let's see the NFL step up.
Oh, and the NBA and major league baseball, too.
Major League Baseball has a long and proud history of employing many, many disabled individuals, virtually all of them in the umpiring ranks.
There was Joe West, who had severe narcissistic personality disorder. He's now retired.
There's Angel Hernandez and any number of other current umpires, all of whom are blind as *expletive deleted*ing bats.
And then there's Rob Manfred, MLB commissioner, who just an incredible *expletive deleted*ing retard.
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"The InsiderAdvantage poll now has Oz up by three points over Fetterman"
Whoa. Freaking WHOA.
That's the first poll I know of in which Oz has led Fetterman.
Apparently Schumer and Biden were caught discussing the debate on a hot mike and one of them opined that it "wasn't that bad" for Democrats. They may be rethinking that.
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I'm debating if I am going to stay up and watch the dueling fraud in real time, or just wake up to see the results.
Pennsylvania is going to have 81 million votes for their senators.
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Missed this...
Biden and Harris will head to Pennsylvania Friday (today) to try to shore up support for Fetterman.
Nothing says support like more cognitive issues and more unintelligible word salad from more people.
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Maybe their theory is that after Biden and Harris speak, Fetterman won't seem so bad.
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Which one is Larry, which one is Moe, and which one is Curly?
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Which one is Larry, which one is Moe, and which one is Curly?
Beat me to it
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Which one is Larry, which one is Moe, and which one is Curly?
I think we know which one is Curly.
Biden likes to bully people, at least verbally, so he's Moe.
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Fetterman's parents claimed to be "reformed" Trump Republicans, but they were registered as Democrats since at least 2016.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/28/john-fettermans-trump-voting-republican-parents-are-card-carrying-democrats/
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Cause of inflation is tax cuts.... or something.
Fetterman Tries To Explain Inflation
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1587455595862544387
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I'm glad that someone just as catastrophically bad at public speaking as I am can be so successful in politics.
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Typical for the left/Democrat side these days. The answer is to raise taxes, tax the rich, and/or tax big corporations. No mention of controlling/reducing spending or to stop printing money.
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Typical for the left/Democrat side these days. The answer is to raise taxes, tax the rich, and/or tax big corporations. No mention of controlling/reducing spending or to stop printing money.
If they can just print money . . . why do I have to pay taxes?
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He's now pro life
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/06/thinkin-john-fetterman-coming-out-as-pro-life-days-before-midterms-wasnt-his-smartest-move-watch/
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I get tired of people going on and on about the same things like Hannity is wont to do but he is on to something. I wear black hoodies all the time but I work outside and weld. And they don’t say Carhartt because that crap costs extra. So if you’re going to wear it at least know how to do carrhartt stuff. Poser.
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It's 64% Fetterman right now. This is another race that I thought would be way closer.
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It's 64% Fetterman right now. This is another race that I thought would be way closer.
Less than 16% votes in so far. We shall see.
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Looks like Oz lost….
https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/
John Fetterman
Democratic Party
50.2%
2,587,382
Mehmet Oz
Republican Party
47.4%
2,441,145
Erik Gerhardt
Libertarian Party
1.4%
70,435
Richard Weiss
Green Party
0.6%
28,935
Daniel Wassmer
Keystone Party of Pennsylvania
0.5%
24,907
Look how many mail in votes Fetterman had….
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So it looks like Pennsylvania elected a senator they know is brain damaged to represent them in Washington. :facepalm:
Well, maybe H.L.Mencken said it right - "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
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Anyways, will they be changing the dress code in the Senate?
This race, more than any other in 2022, is a major indicator that the US as we know it is a sinking ship. Not just because a special Olympics competitor was elected, but because all the Rs could put together was a TV personality. I actually blame Trump influence a lot in this race.
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"I actually blame Trump influence a lot in this race."
Agreed. A large part of this fiasco can be put right at the feed of that orange-skinned *expletive deleted*tard.
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It's now a little after 7 am CST the day after the election and there are still a LOT of undecided races - some with less than 50% of the vote reported so far.
Delays this widespread aren't the sort of thing to inspire faith in election integrity. (Cue Stacy Abrams saying Georgia fraud was 6x worse than before, since she lost by 6x as many votes.)
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"I actually blame Trump influence a lot in this race."
Agreed. A large part of this fiasco can be put right at the feed of that orange-skinned *expletive deleted*tard.
Who was the better R candidate in the primary? I never paid attention to that race.
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I'm talking Trump's yammering nationwide, not specifically Pennsylvania.
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Oz to me was a strange choice for the Rs. A quack that was popular thanks to Oprah. Probably the only R that could have lost to Fetterman, especially after the stroke.
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Probably the only R that could have lost to Fetterman, especially after the stroke.
I think you underestimate the ability of other Republican candidates to lose to weak Democrats.
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Oz to me was a strange choice for the Rs. A quack that was popular thanks to Oprah. Probably the only R that could have lost to Fetterman, especially after the stroke.
Being defeated by someone who's KNOWN to be brain damaged (in a clinical sense) has got to be a big slap to Oz's ego.
I preferred Oz to Fetterman of course, and this may sound like sour grapes, but had he won I think Oz would have been confirmed as a RINO once he assumed office.
I will be moderately surprised if Fetterman serves out his full six year term - some TV doctors say that people who have strokes like Fetterman's have a fairly high risk for another.
Hmmm . . . If Fetterman leaves office early, will there be a special election or will the D Governor appoint a replacement to fill out the unexpired term? The seat could end up being filled by a dangerously capable lefty . . . :O
Edited to add:
Pennsylvanians also RE-ELECTED A DEAD MAN - Pennsylvania state representative Democrat Anthony "Tony" DeLuca who died Oct. 9. So not only do dead democrats continue to vote, they elect one of their own!
I don't know whether the right reaction is :facepalm: or :rofl:
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I think Oz would have been confirmed as a RINO once he assumed office.
Well, yeah.
Guess name recognition can get you pretty far. Let's see if it does the job for Walker.
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Well, maybe H.L.Mencken said it right - "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
"The people have spoken, the bastards."
- Dick Tuck
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"I actually blame Trump influence a lot in this race."
Agreed. A large part of this fiasco can be put right at the feed of that orange-skinned *expletive deleted*tard.
This all day. I'm sick of the obnoxious man child and his influence among the retards on our side.
And Carrhartt is the work clothing equivalent of Harley Davidson, much as I like the brand. I'm not spending $80 on a hoodie.
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For those rolling our eyes at Democrats voting for a brain damaged jackass, let us not forget that Republicans in GA nominated a violent, adulterous baby-killing (alleged!) moron to run for them.
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For those rolling our eyes at Democrats voting for a brain damaged jackass, let us not forget that Republicans in GA nominated a violent, adulterous baby-killing (alleged!) moron to run for them.
So what you're saying is Walker would have been a shoe in on the dem ticket
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No this is not the Babylon Bee
Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
Deranged libs on MSNBC are already salivating over a Fetterman Presidential run:
"It just makes you wonder"
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1590517570095882240
MSNBC’s Katy Tur suggests Fetterman should run for president and just WATCH Jen Psaki’s reaction
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/10/msnbcs-katy-tur-suggests-fetterman-should-run-for-president-and-just-watch-jen-psakis-reaction/
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So what you're saying is Walker would have been a shoe in on the dem ticket
Yes, absolutely!
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For those rolling our eyes at Democrats voting for a brain damaged jackass, let us not forget that Republicans in GA nominated a violent, adulterous baby-killing (alleged!) moron to run for them.
But ... but ... FOOSBALL!