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Title: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2022, 10:19:06 AM
Apparently he's going to be fine.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/house-speaker-pelosi-husband-assaulted-at-home-assailant-arrested.html

I wonder how long it will be until the left starts blaming Oz, Musk, and Trump.

Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Brad Johnson on October 28, 2022, 10:21:22 AM
I thought they had a secure gated compound and guards. WTH?

Brad
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 10:35:28 AM
I wonder how long it will be until the left starts blaming Oz, Musk, and Trump.

0.00003 seconds
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: HankB on October 28, 2022, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: Sen. Chuck Schumer
What happened to Paul Pelosi was a dastardly act

For once I agree - violent home invasions ARE dastardly acts, and the perp ought to be prosecuted even when he victimizes someone I don't like.

But this sort of thing increasingly happens every day in Democrat's America, and Schumer has been silent. Just more confirmation of what most of us already knew - people of his ilk don't give a d@mn about the general public and are only concerned when one of their own is targeted.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2022, 10:47:18 AM
"But this sort of thing increasingly happens every day in Democrat's America, and Schumer has been silent. "

well now you're just overreacting and being insurrectionist!

I bet you voted for Trump... 6 times!
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 28, 2022, 11:20:28 AM
Here we go:

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Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
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This is nightmarish. I wish Paul Pelosi a full and rapid recovery. The far right has normalized the use of violence even against the families of public officials with whom somebody might disagree. This absolutely must stop.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Pb on October 28, 2022, 11:26:04 AM
The attacker should be rapidly executed, along with everyone else who commits a serious violent crime.

Violent crime should be met with absolute intolerance by society.... in the private capacity (armed self defense) and publically (judicial executions).
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 11:28:45 AM
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This is nightmarish. I wish Paul Pelosi a full and rapid recovery. The far right has normalized the use of violence even against the families of public officials with whom somebody might disagree. This absolutely must stop.

Projection turned to 11
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2022, 11:34:31 AM
The attacker should be rapidly executed, along with everyone else who commits a serious violent crime.

Violent crime should be met with absolute intolerance by society.... in the private capacity (armed self defense) and publically (judicial executions).

Can't do that! That would violate the anti-death-penalty beliefs of the left.

But.... wrap it in terms that makes it an ultra ultra ultra ultra late-term abortion, and they'd be fine with it.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Andiron on October 28, 2022, 11:35:05 AM
Chickens coming home to roost.

The left has been at it for years,  hearing them cry about this is funny to me.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2022, 11:53:31 AM
Chickens coming home to roost.

The left has been at it for years,  hearing them cry about this is funny to me.

Exactly. Just the way that they left only became worried about election integrity when it looked like the right was finally learning how to use the left's tricks against it. Then it became a HUGE issue and floods of crocodile tears.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: 230RN on October 28, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
Apparently he's going to be fine.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/house-speaker-pelosi-husband-assaulted-at-home-assailant-arrested.html

I wonder how long it will be until the left starts blaming Oz, Musk, and Trump.


They already did by insinuation by bringing up the "pro Trump riot."

Gee, a home invasion.  Why didn't Mr. Pelosi fire his shotgun into the air?

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2022, 12:29:11 PM
There must be consequences when pronoun-denying, anti-climate extremists attack a member of the Vichy regime. Round up twice the usual number of suspects
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 28, 2022, 02:03:22 PM
WTF is a Castro nudist protester?

Anyways, definitely sounds Ultra MAGA to me.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/10/28/paul-pelosis-attacker-reportedly-former-castro-nudist-david-depape-gosh-doesnt-sound-like-maga/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 02:21:30 PM
WTF is a Castro nudist protester?

Anyways, definitely sounds Ultra MAGA to me.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/10/28/paul-pelosis-attacker-reportedly-former-castro-nudist-david-depape-gosh-doesnt-sound-like-maga/

Nude anti-war protestors

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The 42-year-old Depape, of Berkeley, has previously made news for taking part in nude anti-war protests in the Castro neighborhood.
https://www.rawstory.com/david-depape-pelosi/

And according to the article

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Depape expressed extremist right-wing views on social media, including conspiracy theories about Covid-19, a law enforcement official told the Wall Street Journal.

A CNN analysis of his Facebook page also found meme and conspiracy theories he posted about the 2020 election and Jan. 6 insurrection, and two of his relatives said Depape was estranged from his family.

Unless I see confirmation elsewhere I somewhat suspect the writer made up the right wing bit. You don't have to be extreme right to have questions about those subjects.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2022, 02:34:03 PM
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..extremist right-wing views on social media, including conspiracy theories about Covid-19...

I was confused, until I remembered that "extremist right-wing" only means "things the New York Times won't agree with."
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 28, 2022, 02:51:34 PM
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Depape expressed extremist right-wing views on social media,

You've got to be kidding me. Somebody name me one "right wing" extremist in the history of of the MSM's "right wing extremism" pseudo-history, who lived in Berkeley and did nudist protests. That's the exact stuff "right wing extremists" make fun of. That's some major gaslighting right there.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 03:05:40 PM
And hemp jewelry maker
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 28, 2022, 04:16:58 PM
Some interesting thoughts regarding security measures at the home of the Speaker of the House:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/10/28/harmeet-k-dhillon-has-lots-and-lots-of-questions-about-security-at-pelosi-home-thread/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: dogmush on October 28, 2022, 04:28:35 PM
meh. Occom's Razor.  The JV team was on security because the Speaker wasn't there, the Pelosi's are *expletive deleted*it to their staff so they probably have crap employee's on the JV team, and the principal's probably bypass security protocols on the regular because "important People" always feel like the annoying parts of physical security don't apply to them.

Add that up and crazy can walk in and find Paul, and get a couple swings in before anyone responds to the alarm.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2022, 05:54:42 PM
And now some liberal congressional candidate in California is DEMANDING! ABSOLUTELY DEMANDING! that her opponent personally apologies to Paul and Nancy Pelosi.

I think I'd fire back only after she and every other liberal personally apologize to every American whose personal finances and safety are being crippled by liberal policies at the national, state, and local levels.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 06:00:35 PM
Guy was found in his underwear and seeing speculation the guy was invited in. When the cat is away the mice will play that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 06:02:10 PM
And now some liberal congressional candidate in California is DEMANDING! ABSOLUTELY DEMANDING! that her opponent personally apologies to Paul and Nancy Pelosi.

I think I'd fire back only after she and every other liberal personally apologize to every American whose personal finances and safety are being crippled by liberal policies at the national, state, and local levels.

Ask her to as a democrat to apologize for her party tearing this country apart to protect slavery.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 06:08:22 PM
Dem responses to when Rand Paul got attacked ranged from Zzzzz to he deserved it.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: 230RN on October 28, 2022, 06:12:54 PM
WLJ observed, "Nude anti-war protestors."

Their battle rattle differs from our battle rattle.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: sumpnz on October 28, 2022, 06:23:55 PM
Guy was found in his underwear and seeing speculation the guy was invited in. When the cat is away the mice will play that sort of thing.

It would be freaking hilarious if it turned out the guy was a male prostitute (or even just random hook up) hired (brought home if a random hookup) by Paul Pelosi.  Is Larry Craig friends with the Pelosi’s?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 06:51:35 PM
And it has gone through my mind this could be another Jussie Smollett.
The fact they trying to portray this guy as a right winger when everything points to him being a whacked out lefty. Nancy could be in a panic over the midterms and is desperate.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 28, 2022, 06:55:45 PM
The closer we get to election day the more bullshyte we will see.
The  first thought I had when I heard this story -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: JN01 on October 28, 2022, 07:17:34 PM
I guess I missed all those Democrats apologizing to Congressman Scalise after he was shot by a lefty nutbag.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2022, 08:07:48 PM
Is it OK to punch a nazi Dem Speaker's husband?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 28, 2022, 10:28:46 PM
Hmmm
Don't know anything about this site

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    Police dispatch to Paul Pelosi home:

    "RP (reporting person) stated there's a male in the home and that he's going to wait for his wife. RP stated that he doesn't know who the male is but he advised that his name is David and that he is a friend.”
    pic.twitter.com/O0HeS0s0I5

    — Greg Price (@greg_price11) October 28, 2022

Paul Pelosi Described Attacker as a ‘Friend’ in 911 Call
https://nationalfile.com/paul-pelosi-described-attacker-as-a-friend-in-911-call/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Boomhauer on October 28, 2022, 10:42:07 PM
The attacker should be rapidly executed, along with everyone else who commits a serious violent crime.

Violent crime should be met with absolute intolerance by society.... in the private capacity (armed self defense) and publically (judicial executions).

Absolutely not when it occurs to leftists. They want to espouse the positions that private property that belongs to you and I should never be defended so *expletive deleted*ck them.


The left does not deserve freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, or any of the other rights they *expletive deleted*it all over for us. *expletive deleted*ck them and the horse they rode in on.

Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ron on October 29, 2022, 07:04:53 AM
San Francisco

Middle of the night.

Police found both men in their underwear.

The photos of the broken glass in the door show a lot of glass outside the house, as if the window was broken from inside.

I read a report that Pelosi was holding the hammer when the cops arrived and his "friend" grabbed it and whacked him with it before the cops got control of him.




Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 29, 2022, 12:15:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/zlrNBX2.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Jim147 on October 29, 2022, 01:45:12 PM
Ok and who was the third unknown person in the house? This story is really screwed up.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: BobR on October 29, 2022, 03:16:04 PM
San Francisco

Middle of the night.

Police found both men in their underwear.

The photos of the broken glass in the door show a lot of glass outside the house, as if the window was broken from inside.

I read a report that Pelosi was holding the hammer when the cops arrived and his "friend" grabbed it and whacked him with it before the cops got control of him.

We will never and I mean never get the real story. I would bet even a FOIA request for the report would result in the report being redacted to the point of being useless.

bob
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 29, 2022, 05:24:58 PM
Yeah, gee, I was so wrong. This guy is obviously a right wing extremist.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgPuNeWVEAEZKPg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/29/michael-shellenbergers-gotten-to-the-bottom-of-the-paul-pelosi-story-drug-induced-psychosis/

There's a lot of fishy stuff here, and I agree with Bob - we'll never learn the full, real story.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: gunsmith on October 29, 2022, 06:58:41 PM
 I lived in SF for a long time, as soon as I saw what time it happened I knew what happened.

it was 02:25 or thereabouts, Paul and our nudist guy were having drinks at some local establishment, closing time is 02:00 so they start kicking people out at 0130 .
 Paul invited them over, as things got rowdy Paul went to the bathroom to call 911
( indicating it was not a home invasion! )
    from 0130 to 0300 all crime in SF is nearly absolutely really drunk people being really stupid and drunk at the same time .
 We know Paul is a really stupid drunk, hopefully we will learn the really stupid details - I bet both nudist guy and Paul barely remember the evening
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: sumpnz on October 30, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
It would be freaking hilarious if it turned out the guy was a male prostitute (or even just random hook up) hired (brought home if a random hookup) by Paul Pelosi.  Is Larry Craig friends with the Pelosi’s?

The more that comes out the more this appears to be plausible.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 30, 2022, 10:35:14 AM
Enter Hillary followed by Musk

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    The Republican Party and its mouthpieces now regularly spread hate and deranged conspiracy theories. It is shocking, but not surprising, that violence is the result. As citizens, we must hold them accountable for their words and the actions that follow.https://t.co/MQor4NDFeE

    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 29, 2022

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    There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye https://t.co/HCaF5DrRjP

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 30, 2022
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2022/10/30/its-elon-musks-twitter-now-and-his-reply-to-hillary-clinton-well-pop-that-popcorn/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 30, 2022, 03:37:58 PM
So in that Musk link there is this:

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"When he didn't answer the phone, the cops broke the sliding glass door to get in. Pelosi was struggling with the suspect, who was in his underwear.

The other reports I read said that "someone in the house opened the door to let the police in".

All going back to BobR's post about us never learning the truth here.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: lee n. field on October 30, 2022, 04:31:36 PM
I did  not know, before this incident, that this (https://www.dallasnovelty.com/shop/new-sex-toys/love-hamma-20-function-rechargeable-rounded-thrusting-silicone-hammer-vibrator-black/) existed.

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-rph88/images/stencil/2560w/products/24195/223080/love-hamma-20-function-rechargeable-rounded-thrusting-silicone-hammer-vibrator-all__97226.1622749592.jpg)

(fixed link)
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 30, 2022, 05:35:29 PM
Thanks for lettin us know.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: grampster on October 30, 2022, 05:39:20 PM
 never mind.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on October 30, 2022, 06:59:20 PM
I think I'm scarred for life...
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 30, 2022, 07:03:26 PM
Is that known as a San Francisco hammer?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 30, 2022, 07:10:50 PM
If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning ... I'd hammer in the evening ... all over this land ...
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2022, 08:09:44 AM
Ever changing:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/30/san-fran-pd-clarifies-previous-statement-now-says-there-was-not-a-3rd-person-in-the-pelosi-home/

As mentioned at the link, bodycam footage would have "clarified" things early on, and certainly if it were a common office worker's home in San Francisco, the bodycam footage, along with all kinds of information about the incident, would have already been made public.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2022, 08:31:57 AM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/6268977_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: cordex on October 31, 2022, 09:54:32 AM
In every single case where I have personal knowledge of a situation that made it to the news, the news has gotten the story catastrophically wrong.  I have no doubt they are doing so in this case as well.  Whether their initial reporting was better or the corrections are more accurate I can't say.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MechAg94 on October 31, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
I figure we will eventually know what happened.  I figure people are desperately pushing to delay release of more information at least after election day.  This is too interesting of a story for the media (the lower level guys at least) to ignore it forever. 
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2022, 10:08:45 AM
In every single case where I have personal knowledge of a situation that made it to the news, the news has gotten the story catastrophically wrong.  I have no doubt they are doing so in this case as well.  Whether their initial reporting was better or the corrections are more accurate I can't say.

This girl had severe personal problem and committed suicide in full view of a bunch of people by jumping off an upper level.
Does this article mention any of that? Nope. Instead they tried to drum up conditions at UPS as being the cause and accuses the company of both ignoring them and her. They even say her body wasn't found until later in the day after running from security while being escorted out. Basically saying security was like meh.

Pretty much every detail about her and her suicide is total BS in the article.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: sumpnz on October 31, 2022, 10:43:43 AM
It would be fantastic to have Project Veritas get undercover video of Pelosi security guards admitting to what really happened.  Paul Pelosi would be better, and he might even be dumb/drunk enough to pull that off.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Tuco on October 31, 2022, 10:45:04 AM
Imagine being the responding officer and writing the report:
1. Arrive at scene of reported disturbance
2. Met at door by unknown person
3. DeHammer parially clothed males
4. Sort *expletive deleted*it out
5. Realize later that unknown door answerer in 1 (above) was homeowner and caller

So, a patrol officer with enough experience draw graveyard on Halloween weekend has to start his report:

"...met at the door by an unknown partially clothed male person who we later determined to be the homeowner and the husband of the most powerful woman in the nation, only after paramedics were able to remove the hammer..."
I'm giving the benefit of doubt by assuming the officer didn't have English Composition as a minor at San Jose State.

My funnybone gets tickled (pun intended) thinking about the conversation between Paul and the Dragon Lady after the press dispersed

"Goddammit Paul. Now of all times to cruise Castro. I know how much you love halloween, but with elections in 2 weeks... YOU KNOW BETTER. Why not call and have the Clintons just send someone over. Look at you now. You're getting too old for this *expletive deleted*it and I've got way too much to lose. Get your butt back to meetings." etc.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: sumpnz on October 31, 2022, 11:02:17 AM
Yep.  Nancy will be MUCH more upset that it’s national news that it was her husband engaging in homosexual adulterous behavior.

I bet they haven’t had sex in 20+ years (can’t really blame him no matter his other predilections if that’s true), and she has likely known of his preferences and doesn’t care, or didn’t until this happened.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: dogmush on October 31, 2022, 11:05:17 AM
My funnybone gets tickled (pun intended) thinking about the conversation between Paul and the Dragon Lady after the press dispersed

"Goddammit Paul. Now of all times to cruise Castro. I know how much you love halloween, but with elections in 2 weeks... YOU KNOW BETTER. Why not call and have the Clintons just send someone over. Look at you now. You're getting too old for this *expletive deleted*it and I've got way too much to lose. Get your butt back to meetings." etc.

Unintended consequences of shutting Epstein/Maxwell down.  The rich and powerful have to go trolling for less vetted victims companions.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: cordex on October 31, 2022, 11:50:12 AM
Unintended consequences of shutting Epstein/Maxwell down.  The rich and powerful have to go trolling for less vetted victims companions.
Their consequences are media's benefits.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2022, 11:54:53 AM
Yep.  Nancy will be MUCH more upset that it’s national news that it was her husband engaging in homosexual adulterous behavior.

I bet they haven’t had sex in 20+ years (can’t really blame him no matter his other predilections if that’s true), and she has likely known of his preferences and doesn’t care, or didn’t until this happened.

The dems consider homosexuality a desirable trait and something to be proud of nowadays
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Lennyjoe on October 31, 2022, 12:25:47 PM
Read somewhere that the home security cameras were turned off…..anyone else see that?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 31, 2022, 12:32:49 PM
Read somewhere that the home security cameras were turned off…..anyone else see that?

If true, I would not be the least bit surprised.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2022, 12:52:42 PM
Read somewhere that the home security cameras were turned off…..anyone else see that?

Now where have I seen that before?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 31, 2022, 12:56:02 PM
Paul Pelosi did not kill himself.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: lee n. field on October 31, 2022, 01:59:50 PM
Imagine being the responding officer and writing the report:
1. Arrive at scene of reported disturbance
2. Met at door by unknown person
3. DeHammer parially clothed males
4. Sort *expletive deleted*it out
5. Realize later that unknown door answerer in 1 (above) was homeowner and caller

So, a patrol officer with enough experience draw graveyard on Halloween weekend has to start his report:

"...met at the door by an unknown partially clothed male person who we later determined to be the homeowner and the husband of the most powerful woman in the nation, only after paramedics were able to remove the hammer..."

Remove the hammer from what?   "The publix has a right to knoow!"

Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2022, 02:13:25 PM
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    NEW: The ex-girlfriend of David DePape, the suspect in the Paul Pelosi attack, says that mental illness and drug use caused him to deteriorate so profoundly that he grew convinced that “he was Jesus for a year.” https://t.co/P7v8HVjFcy

    — San Francisco Chronicle (@sfchronicle) October 31, 2022

But that doesn't stop this nonsense

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    if Republicans would stop inciting violence crime might go down

    — Jennifer "Pro-privacy" Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 30, 2022
:facepalm:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/10/31/jennifer-rubin-suggests-that-if-republicans-would-stop-inciting-violence-crime-might-go-down/

Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on October 31, 2022, 02:22:52 PM
'he grew convinced that “he was Jesus for a year.”"

So... at the end of the year, did he pass it off to another candidate to be Jesus for a year, or return it to the real Jesus?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2022, 04:11:57 PM
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The New York Times
@nytimes
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The attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband on Friday, which left him with a fractured skull and appeared to be part of a planned attack on the speaker herself, came after a yearslong campaign by Republicans to demonize and dehumanize her.

I remember there was once a man with orange hair...
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MillCreek on October 31, 2022, 05:15:55 PM
'he grew convinced that “he was Jesus for a year.”"

So... at the end of the year, did he pass it off to another candidate to be Jesus for a year, or return it to the real Jesus?

If there is a rotating Jesus, then there is hope that one of us may come up for it.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 31, 2022, 06:35:01 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/99af508621df9e5b9008e1b54d17641a/f32f698cbdc28877-27/s1280x1920/6af5eb168c8f940a164fc915b6fb1cfc50643eee.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: RocketMan on October 31, 2022, 06:56:44 PM
An interesting little tidbit:  Fox News is reporting DePape is an illegal immigrant from Canada, here on a long term visa overstay.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 31, 2022, 07:32:07 PM
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I bet they haven’t had sex in 20+ years

As the saying goes - Not with a stolen dick.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: lee n. field on November 01, 2022, 08:02:43 AM
"obviously an attempted political assassination" -- some lefty I saw.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Bogie on November 01, 2022, 08:25:55 AM
What's gonna happen:
 
The media is completely going to cover up anything that could possibly differ from the "right wing nutcase tries to assassinate the Speaker of the House" story.
 
Anyone wanna take a bet that Paulie croaks from complications?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on November 01, 2022, 08:46:46 AM
The first rule of underwear hammer fight club is you don't talk about underwear hammer fight club.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: DittoHead on November 01, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
Not just the media, the SFPD & nutcase himself are in on the coverup too (if you believe that kind of thing)
Quote from: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23245706-20221031_depape_complaint_and_affadavit_signed_0
In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:
DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If Nancy were to tell DEPAPE the “truth,” he would let her go, and if she “lied,” he was going to break “her kneecaps.” DEPAPE was certain that Nancy would not have told the “truth.” In the course of the interview, DEPAPE articulated he viewed Nancy as the “leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party. DEPAPE also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions. DEPAPE also explained generally that he wanted to use Nancy to lure another individual to DEPAPE
He never said he was going to kill her.  :police: Just talk, maybe break her kneecaps to make an example out of her and also lure in someone else.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
Not just the media, the SFPD & nutcase himself are in on the coverup too (if you believe that kind of thing)He never said he was going to kill her.  :police: Just talk, maybe break her kneecaps to make an example out of her and also lure in someone else.

I'm not sure if that means you're in the "He's a right wing extremist nutcase" camp. Because I'm seeing some pretty interesting video clips of interactions at AOC town halls. I don't think we can automatically assume that if either a D or R politician is attacked, that it's automatically an "extremist" from the other side. Each side has subset demographics that hate their political leadership.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: DittoHead on November 01, 2022, 09:23:24 AM
I'm not sure if that means you're in the "He's a right wing extremist nutcase" camp. Because I'm seeing some pretty interesting video clips of interactions at AOC town halls. I don't think we can automatically assume that if either a D or R politician is attacked, that it's automatically an "extremist" from the other side. Each side has subset demographics that hate their political leadership.

I think he's crazy enough, either naturally or through extensive drug use or both, that he doesn't really inhabit the political spectrum as we know it in any coherent matter. He's a nutjob who seems eager to believe any conspiracy theory out there. At this moment in time, the more popular conspiracies tend to have a right wing tilt so that's why he appears to be motivated by some of the same things as the very far right fringe. When left wing conspiracies were more popular, he appeared more left wing. He just drifts along wherever the crazy brings him.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2022, 09:29:09 AM
Somethings a wack job is just a wack job.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: cordex on November 01, 2022, 09:41:28 AM
I think he's crazy enough, either naturally or through extensive drug use or both, that he doesn't really inhabit the political spectrum as we know it in any coherent matter. He's a nutjob who seems eager to believe any conspiracy theory out there. At this moment in time, the more popular conspiracies tend to have a right wing tilt so that's why he appears to be motivated by some of the same things as the very far right fringe. When left wing conspiracies were more popular, he appeared more left wing. He just drifts along wherever the crazy brings him.
I tend agree with this, although the more nuanced perspective in this post doesn't seem to square with your previous (much more typical) gotcha post.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MechAg94 on November 01, 2022, 09:44:57 AM
I heard speculation that Mr. Pelosi called this guy a "friend" when he called the police because he thought that guy was listening and didn't want to alarm him.  I guess that is plausible.  Still and odd situation. 
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MillCreek on November 01, 2022, 09:46:50 AM
I'm not sure if that means you're in the "He's a right wing extremist nutcase" camp. Because I'm seeing some pretty interesting video clips of interactions at AOC town halls. I don't think we can automatically assume that if either a D or R politician is attacked, that it's automatically an "extremist" from the other side. Each side has subset demographics that hate their political leadership.

This should be carved on a stone tablet somewhere.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MechAg94 on November 01, 2022, 10:18:02 AM
This should be carved on a stone tablet somewhere.
But even that is not "set in stone". 
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: DittoHead on November 01, 2022, 10:33:22 AM
I tend agree with this, although the more nuanced perspective in this post doesn't seem to square with your previous (much more typical) gotcha post.
If someone asks me a serious question in good faith I can give a serious answer but considering that a good portion of this thread (and many here) is wild speculation, snark, memes, and dark humor, I hope to be forgiven for my own occasional low-effort post that may employ sarcasm or wit* instead of a detailed & nuanced position.  :angel:

*(attempted)
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2022, 11:17:58 AM
Premium article, but below is the gist. It seems there are still widely conflicting stories from various "official" sources. It certainly seems, however, that there were no security people, the security system was off, and the security cameras were off. None of that helps quell the conflicting stories.

I don't know what standard protocols are for security for a Speaker of the House (or their residences, occupied or unoccupied). It sure seems like Paul Pelosi is something of an alcoholic though, so even with whatever protocols, a few drinks in he'd probably be shining them on without human security onsite to make sure all systems are on.

So far regarding the police entering, it has been, "A third person opened the door"; "One of the two men opened the door"; and, "The police broke through the door". If it was #2, then the story about the police walking in on the two men struggling over the hammer couldn't have occurred.

Quote
No security was present at the Pelosi residence when a man broke in on Oct. 28 and tried murdering Paul Pelosi, San Francisco’s top prosecutor said on Oct. 31.

“There was no security present,” interim San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins told reporters during a press conference as she announced a slew of felony charges, including attempted murder, against David DePape.

A spokesperson for U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) did not respond to requests for comment about the lack of security. Nancy Pelosi and her husband, Paul Pelosi, have a combined net worth of approximately $344 million.

DePape, 42, was able to break a window in a glass door at the rear of the Pelosi residence in San Francisco and forced his way inside, Jenkins said.

He then went upstairs into a bedroom, where Paul Pelosi, the husband of U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was sleeping, according to authorities.

Paul Pelosi was woken up; DePape asked where Nancy Pelosi was. When he was told she wasn’t there, he said he would wait for her. Paul Pelosi asked to use the bathroom, according to Jenkins, and while inside called 911.

Once DePape figured out the call had been made, he took Paul Pelosi downstairs.

Officers arrived within two minutes of the call, Jenkins said.

Officers knocked on the door and the door was opened. The person who opened the door remains unclear. An FBI affidavit said it was Pelosi but Jenkins said that authorities don’t know which of the men opened the door.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-security-at-pelosi-home-when-man-tried-murdering-paul-pelosi-district-attorney_4832841.html
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2022, 11:29:06 AM
Premium article, but below is the gist. It seems there are still widely conflicting stories from various "official" sources. It certainly seems, however, that there were no security people, the security system was off, and the security cameras were off. None of that helps quell the conflicting stories.


Video was uploaded to Hillary's server
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2022, 12:41:55 PM
More Joy Reid

Quote
    Nancy Pelosi’s husband is recovering in a hospital named after someone whose social media platforms have helped make him a target. (via @TheReidOut Blog) https://t.co/B3UI06srmb

    — MSNBC (@MSNBC) November 1, 2022

The hospital
Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital and Trauma Center
Yeah, that Zuckerbrg

Now that the dems are, maybe, losing every media outlet is suddenly a extreme far right wing enemy of the people. I hope many of these outlets remember that.

The ReidOut blogger reveals ‘the sick twist of fate underlying the Paul Pelosi attack’
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/11/01/the-reidout-blogger-reveals-the-sick-twist-of-fate-underlying-the-paul-pelosi-attack/

Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MillCreek on November 01, 2022, 12:47:44 PM
Is it possible that the Speaker of the House only has Federal security at their residence when the Speaker is actually at the residence?  So when the Speaker is in DC or out on official business, the residential security detail is pulled?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 01, 2022, 06:49:14 PM
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Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: sumpnz on November 01, 2022, 06:57:18 PM
Is it possible that the Speaker of the House only has Federal security at their residence when the Speaker is actually at the residence?  So when the Speaker is in DC or out on official business, the residential security detail is pulled?

If there’s nobody else in the house I could see that.  But presumably the spouse or other immediate family members of such a high profile person would be just as at risk and in need of protection as the main person.  Otherwise they could be kidnapped, or harmed in order to damage the main person even if they can’t access that main person directly.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2022, 07:12:42 PM
No one needs more than a 10 inch hammer. Ban high capacity long hammers
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Tuco on November 01, 2022, 08:15:19 PM
No one needs more than a 10 inch hammer. Ban high capacity long hammers
Thereby perpetuating the perennial popularity of the portulent Nine Pound Hammer
https://youtu.be/_u964a0f38s
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 01, 2022, 08:50:06 PM
Thereby perpetuating the perennial popularity of the portulent Nine Pound Hammer
https://youtu.be/_u964a0f38s

Respect.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Bogie on November 01, 2022, 09:47:32 PM
Just had an idea... After I win the Powerball tomorrow night, every night I'm going to hire a different SF nutjob to play a trombone outside the Pelosi house. A different one every night, since I'm sure there will be some arrests, but I could hire a different one every night. Talent for music, or any training at all, not necessary. Weekends I might also include a drummer. Hell, holidays, do a whole drum circle...
 
"Yeah, when you get out of jail for disturbing the peace, you'll have this waiting for you. Deal?"
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: HeroHog on November 02, 2022, 12:25:49 AM
Cow bells and tambourines, easy to make noise with, annoying as hell to most everyone when played poorly, or as a solo instrument.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 02, 2022, 08:13:13 AM
Is it possible that the Speaker of the House only has Federal security at their residence when the Speaker is actually at the residence?  So when the Speaker is in DC or out on official business, the residential security detail is pulled?

Correct. Nancy Pelosi's security detail travels with her.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Pb on November 02, 2022, 09:45:53 AM
Bagpipes, Bogie.  Bagpipes.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 02, 2022, 11:04:07 AM
Apparently if you have any doubt this guy was anything but a full on raging MAGA extreme right wing Trump following Nazi you're a raging MAGA extreme right wing Trump following Nazi conspiracy nut.

Almost shocked I haven't seen someone compare it to 9-11 or J6.....yet
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Tuco on November 02, 2022, 11:20:11 AM
Apparently ... you're a raging MAGA extreme right wing Trump following Nazi conspiracy nut.
They keep saying that. I do not think it means what they think it means.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Boomhauer on November 02, 2022, 11:28:42 AM
Apparently if you have any doubt this guy was anything but a full on raging MAGA extreme right wing Trump following Nazi you're a raging MAGA extreme right wing Trump following Nazi conspiracy nut.

Almost shocked I haven't seen someone compare it to 9-11 or J6.....yet

Oh no they have been comparing it to Jan 6
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 02, 2022, 11:30:04 AM
Oh no they have been comparing it to Jan 6

Either I just over looked and haven't seen that or my brain's safely circuits kicked in when I did.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 02, 2022, 11:50:37 AM
06JAN is the new civil war, and Paul Pelosi is the new 9/11 is how I think it works at the moment.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 02, 2022, 12:11:51 PM
Oh no they have been comparing it to Jan 6

Everything conservatives do is Jan 6.  And Jan 6 was worse than 9/11, Pearl Harbor, and the Lincoln assassination combined.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 02, 2022, 01:50:11 PM
If a Holocaust survivor had been found among the J6 MAGA meanies, the Atlantic would publish an essay titled, "Rethinking the Holocaust: Did Some of Them Deserve It?"
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: HeroHog on November 02, 2022, 02:12:07 PM
Everything conservatives do is Jan 6.  And Jan 6 was worse than 9/11, Pearl Harbor, and the Lincoln assassination combined.

Lincoln was a racist Nazi! (or something like that, so I'm told)
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 02, 2022, 04:55:47 PM
Hillary shooting her mouth off again.
Guess the republican party is a cult. A cult of deplorables

Quote
    Republicans claim you should vote for them because they're tough on crime.

    But when one of their cult members commits a crime against Paul Pelosi, they couldn't care less. pic.twitter.com/GnLMv1ggSc

    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) November 2, 2022

Hillary Clinton: How can Republicans be tough on crime when they’re fine with the Pelosi attack
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/02/hillary-clinton-how-can-republicans-be-tough-on-crime-when-theyre-fine-with-the-pelosi-attack/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 02, 2022, 05:41:39 PM
The intrepid journalists at the Washington Post are calling for bodycam footage NOT to be released, because it will stoke conspiracy theories.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/02/wapo-calls-to-release-the-video-of-the-paul-pelosi-attack-only-stoke-conspiracy-theories/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 02, 2022, 05:45:45 PM
The intrepid journalists at the Washington Post are calling for bodycam footage NOT to be released, because it will stoke conspiracy theories.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/02/wapo-calls-to-release-the-video-of-the-paul-pelosi-attack-only-stoke-conspiracy-theories/

Yeah, jut saw that.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2022, 12:06:03 PM
Disconcerting not just because they did this with the Pelosi story, but apparently it's possible to go back into the Wayback Machine and change earlier versions of web pages? Or else the Wayback people did this? If true, it's disappointing, as I have always respected and appreciated the Internet Archive's efforts to preserve internet and media history, unedited.

Quote
The article goes on to note that the story has been corrected.  This is true.  Here's the story now.

Here's the correction:  Note that the correction does not actually mention the word underwear.  Even the Wayback links have the correction appended.


https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/03/brutal-thread-blasts-media-for-twisting-and-retelling-paul-pelosi-attack-story-to-help-democrats/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 03, 2022, 01:43:50 PM
Disconcerting not just because they did this with the Pelosi story, but apparently it's possible to go back into the Wayback Machine and change earlier versions of web pages? Or else the Wayback people did this? If true, it's disappointing, as I have always respected and appreciated the Internet Archive's efforts to preserve internet and media history, unedited.

Winston Smith has been busy.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: zxcvbob on November 03, 2022, 02:26:51 PM
Somethings a wack job is just a wack job.

At least it's a job  :cool:
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MechAg94 on November 03, 2022, 03:18:58 PM
The intrepid journalists at the Washington Post are calling for bodycam footage NOT to be released, because it will stoke conspiracy theories.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/02/wapo-calls-to-release-the-video-of-the-paul-pelosi-attack-only-stoke-conspiracy-theories/
If what happened is what they said, the video will show that and will end the conspiracy theories.  Apparently they think there is something on that video that is strange enough to stoke more theories. 
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2022, 10:07:17 AM
Reported on the not conservative Today Show, Pelosi opened the door for cops, then walked back to stand next to Depape. Also stated was that the hammer was in Pelosi's hand at that point and that Depape then took it from him and hit him.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/04/new-bizarre-details-from-inside-paul-pelosi-attack-debunk-lefts-nudist-maga-hippie-claims-watch/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 04, 2022, 10:11:50 AM
The Today Show will be called extreme far right wing MAGA propaganda. 
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: K Frame on November 04, 2022, 10:31:52 AM
I just think it's absolutely amazing that the Justice apartment is now taking an interest in illegal aliens committing crimes...

Or... one illegal alien committing one crime.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2022, 11:12:59 AM
And there went breakfast:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/04/tucker-carlson-mocking-rex-chapman-over-his-claim-for-why-paul-pelosi-cant-be-gay-is-comedy-gold/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: DittoHead on November 04, 2022, 11:39:43 AM
If what happened is what they said, the video will show that and will end the conspiracy theories.

I would have expected the suspect corroborating "the official story" to have slowed down the conspiracies, but it did not. I'm not sure how the conspiracy explains that, whether the theory is he was forced/coached or the SFPD & FBI straight up lied about his interview after being arrested. I'm not optimistic that video would do much at this point - people would complain it took too long, or didn't show everything, or was simply fake. Like most conspiracies, people believe it because they want to.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: cordex on November 04, 2022, 12:04:22 PM
I would have expected the suspect corroborating "the official story" to have slowed down the conspiracies, but it did not.
To be clear, exactly which official story are you saying he corroborated?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MechAg94 on November 04, 2022, 12:40:59 PM
Anytime officials suppress evidence it usually invites more people (more than normal) to entertain conspiracies.  They assume there is something they are hiding which is often true. 

I wouldn't be surprised if their story is true, but if so, I can't explain why they wouldn't release the video.  Makes me think something about the incident was embarrassing in some way and Mrs. Pelosi is up for election right now.  We will see.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2022, 01:04:16 PM
The "Today" story is already gone.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/11/04/looks-like-something-or-someone-made-nbc-want-to-flush-new-paul-pelosi-scoop-down-the-memory-hole/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: DittoHead on November 04, 2022, 01:05:39 PM
To be clear, exactly which official story are you saying he corroborated?
The two links below cover it pretty well.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download
https://docs-cdn-prod.news-engineering.aws.wapo.pub/publish_document/98827cd0-db7e-410b-9fbd-00b89dc6d033/published/98827cd0-db7e-410b-9fbd-00b89dc6d033.pdf
The short version is that a man broke into Nancy Pelosi's house to attack her and maybe hold her hostage. Instead he found her husband who managed to call 911. When police arrived the man realized the jig was up, got angry and bashed Mr. Pelosi in the head with the same hammer he used to break in. Police arrested the man and Mr. Pelosi was taken to the hospital.

I can't explain why they wouldn't release the video.  Makes me think something about the incident was embarrassing in some way
I'm not sure the laws regarding such video, but I can say that if I were the victim of a crime like this in my own home I would not care to have that footage released. Victims deserve some measure of privacy when possible and there are plenty of issues with that stemming from police body cameras let alone home surveillance video. It would be worthwhile to use it as evidence in court, but I wouldn't release it just to appease people who will likely never be appeased anyway.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 04, 2022, 01:32:43 PM
I already knew that almost no one remembers what "conspiracy" means. I still find it interesting that even being skeptical of the view of events conveyed by the media has routinely been referred to as "conspiracy theory," when it comes to this event.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 04, 2022, 02:19:22 PM
I already knew that almost no one remembers what "conspiracy" means. I still find it interesting that even being skeptical of the view of events conveyed by the media has routinely been referred to as "conspiracy theory," when it comes to this event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: cordex on November 04, 2022, 02:32:31 PM
I already knew that almost no one remembers what "conspiracy" means. I still find it interesting that even being skeptical of the view of events conveyed by the media has routinely been referred to as "conspiracy theory," when it comes to this event.
The problem is that "conspiracy theory" when used to mean "baseless, speculative idea" would apply equally to a huge number of media reports and public statements by the President, other politicians, etc.  When you call it a conspiracy theory you get to bake in doubting The Official Story, whatever that is at a given moment.

Once doubting The Official Story becomes a worthy of mockery, sophists to play Motte-and-bailey word games try to confuse doubting the obviously politically motivated, baseless, speculative ideas pushed by people whose politics they like with doubting facts.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: 230RN on November 04, 2022, 03:32:42 PM
ON REVISIONISM IN AUTHORITATIVE SOURCES

To be clear, exactly which official story are you saying he corroborated?

Tragically funny.

Not too long ago I posted something on "Unit 731," the Japanese medical experiment facility in China.  Bearing in mind my own recollections of  other Wiki articles having been "sanitized" I gave a link to the highly uncomplimentary article about this.

I recommended that my readers capture copies of that article on their own memory devices in case the Unit 731 article was ever massaged to soften it.

I dont know if it has actually been "polished;" I don't have time to check that, but my point here is that  I was aware long ago of the possibility of revisionism in authoritative sources and recommended personal storage of important matters.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 09, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
Because of course...

https://hotair.com/headlines/2022/11/09/pelosi-attacker-granted-sanctuary-wont-be-given-to-ice-n509248

Those dang, Republican sanctuary policies strike once again.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 09, 2022, 08:06:02 PM
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Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2022, 07:38:35 AM
I guess Pelosi uses the same fixer as Hillary:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-news-miguel-almaguer-hasnt-appeared-on-air-since-paul-pelosi-report-was-mysteriously-retracted
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 15, 2022, 12:41:50 PM
Miguel Almaguer did not kill himself.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 15, 2022, 12:46:33 PM
Miguel Almaguer did not kill himself.

Of course he did
Right after shooting himself in the back of the head 10 times and then jumping off a 40 story building he hung himself.
What are you, one of those extreme far right wing MAGA conspiracy nuts?   
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 15, 2022, 05:35:59 PM
What are you, one of those extreme far right wing MAGA conspiracy nuts?   

Uh . . . pretty much, yeah.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: DittoHead on December 15, 2022, 10:19:14 AM
Crazy man's other targets:
Quote from: https://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-pelosi-attack-david-depapes-targets-allegedly-included-tom-hanks
Hunter Biden, California Gov. Gavin Newsom, and—bizarrely—actor Tom Hanks
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on January 22, 2023, 12:39:48 PM
Quote
    Nancy Pelosi reportedly summons priests to exorcise home of evil spirits https://t.co/MfJpVaLQCq pic.twitter.com/DfMW7cUlzu

    — New York Post (@nypost) January 21, 2023
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2023/01/22/cleaner-of-the-house-nancy-pelosi-tried-to-have-an-exorcism-of-her-house-according-to-daughter/
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 22, 2023, 01:09:51 PM
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2023/01/22/cleaner-of-the-house-nancy-pelosi-tried-to-have-an-exorcism-of-her-house-according-to-daughter/

So, was she exorcised from her own house?
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2023, 02:22:13 PM
Body cam footage released

Why is Paul P grinning ear to ear?

Police bodycam footage of Paul Pelosi hammer attack is FINALLY released and shows intruder launch vicious assault at San Francisco home that left the 82-year-old with a fractured skull
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11684647/Paul-Pelosi-bodycam-footage-Nancy-says-hard-watch-attack-husbands-life.html
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: DustinD on January 27, 2023, 02:26:24 PM
Police body camera just released. Pelosi was in his underwear, opened the door, possibly smiling, holding a drink with ice in the glass. The ice is visible on the ground towards the end of the video. The police were calm and treating this like a minor issue until the attack starts.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1619022216963977221

Paul tried to get the dispatcher to understand the situation but the dispatcher was pretty derped out or thought it was a minor domestic thing. Yikes.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2023, 02:31:08 PM
There's no doubt that Pelosi took a serious hit to the head and that the attacker needs to be punished. Bit that grin and the drink and stuff raises a lot of questions.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2023, 02:33:51 PM
Think Paul hooked up with someone that night a bit crazier than usual
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: MechAg94 on January 27, 2023, 09:42:20 PM
I finally listened to the 911 call.  It does sort of sound like he is trying to call for help with the guy standing right next to him.  Still an odd situation. 
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: dogmush on January 28, 2023, 07:16:35 AM
I'm more concerned with why he chose to dump Google stock a month before a DOJ lawsuit than any weirdos he may or may not have invited into his house.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on January 28, 2023, 07:19:44 AM
I'm more concerned with why he chose to dump Google stock a month before a DOJ lawsuit than any weirdos he may or may not have invited into his house.

There was a thread on the the Pelosi's insider trading somewhere in here.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: dogmush on January 28, 2023, 10:18:05 AM
I was trying, poorly in hindsight,  to imply the timing of this video release/embarrassment was purposefully done to distract from their most recent bit of 7 figure insider trading.

Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 10, 2023, 07:40:54 AM
And an update

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His lawyers on Thursday argued that DePape - who has struggled with drugs and posts crazed COVID conspiracy theories, anti-Semitic rants, racist slurs and unhinged screeds about religion online - did not try and stop Nancy Pelosi from doing her job.

Defense attorney Jodi Linker said she won't dispute that her client attacked Paul Pelosi, an encounter caught on police body camera video.

Instead, she will argue that he believed 'with every ounce of his being' that he was taking action to stop government corruption and the abuse of children by politicians and actors.
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DePape posted rants on a blog and an online forum about aliens, communists, religious minorities, and global elites.

He questioned the results of the 2020 election and echoed the baseless, right-wing QAnon conspiracy theory that claims the U.S. government is run by a cabal of devil-worshipping pedophiles. The websites were taken down shortly after his arrest.

Enter the unicorns

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San Francisco Police Acting Lt. O'Connor, who helped process the crime scene, testified she collected a sleeping bag and two backpacks from the Pelosis' patio that DePape allegedly brought with him.

Items in the backpacks included a sledgehammer, zip ties, gloves, duct tape, cash, a Canadian passport, a Canadian birth certificate, men's clothes, a video game console, and two inflatable, multicolor unicorn costumes.

 :O

David DePape, man accused of attacking Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer, was 'caught up in conspiracies' about the wealthy elite, but had 'no intention of harming' the 82-year-old, defense says
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12733445/david-depape-nancy-pelosi-paul-pelosi-hammer-attack-trial.html
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Jim147 on November 11, 2023, 02:18:06 PM
I need to remember to add multicolor unicorn costume to my truck bag.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Ben on November 11, 2023, 02:35:40 PM
I need to remember to add multicolor unicorn costume to my truck bag.

San Francisco grey man.
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: WLJ on November 16, 2023, 06:46:31 PM
Found guilty.
Big surprise there

Paul Pelosi attacker David DePape is found GUILTY for bludgeoning House Speaker's husband over the head with a hammer during break-in and now faces up to 50 years in prison
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12754691/paul-pelosi-attacker-david-depape.html
Title: Re: Paul Pelosi attacked in his home
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 16, 2023, 11:00:52 PM
Found guilty.
Big surprise there



Boy, that white privilege stuff - it's like it's not even real!  :O