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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: WLJ on December 02, 2022, 10:43:50 AM
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Give the project to Kathleen Kennedy. What could go wrong? She's done "great things" with Star Wars. Right?
Getting roasted in the comments section on Rotten Tomatoes
And on the IJ news rumor is Ford's IJ is erased from history and replaced with a woman and the previous moves didn't happen.
Everyone is gay! Willow 2022 TRASHED by fans! Another Disney disaster!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZPrm5yWf8k
Lucasfilm’s ‘Willow’ Audience Ratings In The Toilet, Described As “Farging Bestish Of A Crap Show”
https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/12/01/lucasfilms-willow-audience-ratings-in-the-toilet-described-as-farging-bestish-of-a-crap-show/
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Newsflash: Catering to 5% of the population gets you 5% positive ratings.
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And right on he heels of that
Enter The Critical Drinker
Appears the new and improved IJ character plot point leads into a new series
Indiana Jones 5 Trailer - The Rumours Were True
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg
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Enter The Critical Drinker
Appears the new and improved IJ character plot point leads into a new series
The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was garbage, but it introduced Indy's son... who would make a logical character to take his father's place, rather than a woman.
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I guess they've still not learned their lesson from the all-women reboot of Ghost Busters.
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I guess they've still not learned their lesson from the all-women reboot of Ghost Busters.
It's like communism. It'll work this time because the right people are in charge now.
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Trailers are supposed to have some of the best scenes from the movie . . . if that holds true, from looking at the IJ-5 trailer, the full movie will be trash.
The wokesters will stay woke until someone cuts off their cash.
And, of course, they'll blame audiences who won't dine on the crap they're serving up.
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I guess they've still not learned their lesson from the all-women reboot of Ghost Busters.
I've said it before, GB 2016 would have been better received, even if it was a lousily movie, if they had made the girls the daughters of the original GBers who were continuing the business. But no, they had to erase the previous movies, took a big fat dump on our memories and then to top it off called us bigots if we didn't love that piece of *expletive deleted*it movie.
I highly suspect much the same is going to happen here.
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Trailers are supposed to have some of the best scenes from the movie . . . if that holds true, from looking at the IJ-5 trailer, the full movie will be tras.
The wokesters will stay woke until someone cuts off their cash.
And, of course, they'll blame audiences who won't dine on the crap they're serving up.
So I read this:
“What’s interesting is — I hope and I believe we’re at a moment where you’re going to see a paradigm shift in that. And hopefully, the way that it’s gonna happen is that these kinds of [queer] stories, particularly like this one, that were just organic to the narrative we were telling, find their way in, and it becomes less of a surprising and unusual thing to see.”
OK, I get it now. You're pushing your agenda in this and future films and programs at the expense of your art. Carry on.
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So I read this:
“What’s interesting is — I hope and I believe we’re at a moment where you’re going to see a paradigm shift in that. And hopefully, the way that it’s gonna happen is that these kinds of [queer] stories, particularly like this one, that were just organic to the narrative we were telling, find their way in, and it becomes less of a surprising and unusual thing to see.”
OK, I get it now. You're pushing your agenda in this and future films and programs at the expense of your art. Carry on.
Ignoring the recent Covid dip, ticket sales have been eroding for at least the last 20 or so years. Box office dollars are up thanks to rising ticket prices . . . until the numbers are adjusted for inflation. Inflation-adjusted box office numbers more or less follow the decline in ticket sales. You can take a look at some of the numbers here: https://www.the-numbers.com/market/
If they keep trying to cater to <5% of the potential movie-going customer base by making " . . . these kinds of [queer] stories . . . " at some point the decline is going to accelerate. With the internet, streaming, DVDs, etc., people aren't as desperate for theatrical entertainment as they used to be - and they don't want to be inundated with heavy-handed leftist social propaganda when they're seeking entertainment. And the MPA is pouring gasoline on this growing dumpster fire by putting in a requirement that in order to be considered for an Oscar, future movies will have to check off several DEI boxes. (FWIW, most recent Oscars have gone to crapola movies anyway. IMHO.)
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Ignoring the recent Covid dip, ticket sales have been eroding for at least the last 20 or so years. Box office dollars are up thanks to rising ticket prices . . . until the numbers are adjusted for inflation. Inflation-adjusted box office numbers more or less follow the decline in ticket sales. You can take a look at some of the numbers here: https://www.the-numbers.com/market/
If they keep trying to cater to <5% of the potential movie-going customer base by making " . . . these kinds of [queer] stories . . . " at some point the decline is going to accelerate. With the internet, streaming, DVDs, etc., people aren't as desperate for theatrical entertainment as they used to be - and they don't want to be inundated with heavy-handed leftist social propaganda when they're seeking entertainment. And the MPA is pouring gasoline on this growing dumpster fire by putting in a requirement that in order to be considered for an Oscar, future movies will have to check off several DEI boxes. (FWIW, most recent Oscars have gone to crapola movies anyway. IMHO.)
My wife and I go to movies quite frequently, when there is something we want to see playing. We have yet to be in a half full theater. We have yet to wait in the ticket and snack counter lines longer than 2-3 minutes. We have yet to have anyone sit in the seats next to us. The movies frequently spend very little time in theaters and they come out on streaming very quickly. Some go straight to streaming and skip the theater entirely.
If they want to go woke and then broke I’m not going to shed any tears when they drive everybody away.
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Had to look up "diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI)."
I'm tired of being browbeaten and propagandized by all this woke bullshit.
I pride myself on being pretty egalitarian, lived with, worked with, schooled with a pretty wide sample of the population.
But I'm starting to resent people on account of this constant barrage of horse hocky and it's beginnng --I hate to admit it --to develop a strong post-judice in me toward some examples of the population.
Post-judice, rather than pre-judice, but it's morphing into the latter, I'm sad to say.
Very sad to say.
It's not Racism. It's Pain-In-The-Assism.
Terry, 230RN
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The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was garbage, but it introduced Indy's son... who would make a logical character to take his father's place, rather than a woman.
The problem for me is they chose Shia LaBeouf as the son. Nothing against him, but he was part of that trend in Hollywood where the star had to constantly talk for the entire movie and never shut up or give any moment of silence. I hated that. I sort of liked the first couple of Transformers movies, but that part bugs me.
One thing I heard the other day for Indiana Jones is they should just treat it similar to James Bond. Just cast a new Indiana Jones and makes the series always happen in the 1930's. There should be plenty of story potential just sticking with that.
What I have heard of Willow so far sounds like some low budget DnD show.
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Here's The Critical Drinker's opinion of Willow
Train wreck doesn't quite go far enough in describing it. Says it might actually be worse than ROP.
Willow - It's A Total Disaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLRHR2Nou8A
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Get yourself a good popcorn popper. I recommend the Whirly Pop kind. Put it on a hotplate in your theater room, fire up the screen and amplifiers, get yourself an 82 ounce soda from the mini-fridge, and kick back in that reclining sofa...
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The Critical Drinker does an Open Bar livestream with 3 or 4 others every couple weeks. There is one today at 3 PM or so.
Main news today is Warner Brothers cut ties with Henry Cavil for the Superman role and said they were going for a younger superman story. I don't know if that means a Smallville reboot or some sort of younger looking skinny superman like they did with the recent Batman movie. Most comments I have seen say fans want a mature Superman fighting the known villains not another origin story.
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Any bets on the new superman being a gay, transvestite, nonbinary, furry?
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The Critical Drinker does an Open Bar livestream with 3 or 4 others every couple weeks. There is one today at 3 PM or so.
Main news today is Warner Brothers cut ties with Henry Cavil for the Superman role and said they were going for a younger superman story. I don't know if that means a Smallville reboot or some sort of younger looking skinny superman like they did with the recent Batman movie. Most comments I have seen say fans want a mature Superman fighting the known villains not another origin story.
Yeah saw that. And that's after begging him to make an appearance in an after credits scene in Black Adam. :facepalm:
Shame too, he was really good playing Superman. Him and Christopher Reeve are my favorites.
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Meanwhile early reviews of Avatar 2 describe it as boring. Hearing it needs to break $2 billion just to break even.
BTW: I never even finished watching the first one. A been there done that story (Dances With Wolves Smurfs) and far too much reliance on eye candy to hold my interest
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Meanwhile early reviews of Avatar 2 describe it as boring. Hearing it needs to break $2 billion just to break even.
BTW: I never even finished watching the first one. A been there done that story (Dances With Wolves Smurfs) and far too much reliance on eye candy to hold my interest
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/avatar-2-is-finally-here-%E2%80%93-and-its-like-being-waterboarded-with-turquoise-cement/ar-AA15esVm
This does not inspire me to rush to a movie theater for the first time in 3 years.
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"Dances With Smurfs"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Never had the slightest bit of interest in seeing Avatar.
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Henry Cavil is also apparently no longer The Witcher. They injected a little woke into The Witcher, but never enough to keep me from enjoying it. I'm wondering if that will change? They supposedly got Liam Hemsworth as his replacement.
I have zero plans on seeing Avatar 2, probably not even when (if) it's free to me on Netflix. Twelve years later? Come on, man. I didn't even really like the first one all that much from what I recall.
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Henry said he was leaving Witcher to do Superman (ironic now) but the persistent rumor is he was getting into it badly with the writers because they were diverging more from the books than he was willing to.
Apparently he was quoted a couple months before leaving as committed to the full 5 or 6 seasons "as long as the show respects the source material". Then after season 3 wrapped filming he left, so read into that what one will.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/avatar-2-is-finally-here-%E2%80%93-and-its-like-being-waterboarded-with-turquoise-cement/ar-AA15esVm
This does not inspire me to rush to a movie theater for the first time in 3 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0mR3Gm-upA
Chris Gore said he liked it. He said it had some problems the dialogue sucked, but he enjoyed it. He said it was one of the few Hollywood movies in recent years with a decent father figure.
That said, I have heard other people say it was too long and boring as well. Shadiversity put out his review this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn6HiX9m2HY
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Henry said he was leaving Witcher to do Superman (ironic now) but the persistent rumor is he was getting into it badly with the writers because they were diverging more from the books than he was willing to.
Apparently he was quoted a couple months before leaving as committed to the full 5 or 6 seasons "as long as the show respects the source material". Then after season 3 wrapped filming he left, so read into that what one will.
I only watched the first season, but liked it mostly. Henry Cavill fighting monsters and a good looking sorceress who gets naked occasionally. I have heard that all goes away and it is all about the women. It also came out the writing team all hated the Witcher books and games and made fun of it while Cavill was a big fan of the story. I imagine he was a bit frustrated.
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I only watched the first season, but liked it mostly. Henry Cavill fighting monsters and a good looking sorceress who gets naked occasionally. I have heard that all goes away and it is all about the women. It also came out the writing team all hated the Witcher books and games and made fun of it while Cavill was a big fan of the story. I imagine he was a bit frustrated.
You should play Witcher 3. More monster fighting and nekkid Yennifer on a Unicorn.
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You should play Witcher 3. More monster fighting and nekkid Yennifer on a Unicorn.
I haven't played any of the games, but I have heard the books were good so I figure I would start there. =)
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Meanwhile the left is looking for the next straight white male character centered franchise to destroy
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You should play Witcher 3. More monster fighting and nekkid Yennifer on a Unicorn.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49883303552_18965d028b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2j11YeN)
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But word is they're keeping Amber Heard and Ezra Miller :facepalm:
Henry Cavill FIRED, while Amber Heard is HIRED! Devastating DCEU Superman news BREAKS the internet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCeg8j-co9g
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Watching Drinker live and they said John Williams stated they're reshooting the ending to IJ5 after test audiences hated it.
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Meanwhile the left is looking for the next straight white male character centered franchise to destroy
What is left?
As they said in the Drinker's stream, they are down to Willow. Nice movie for some, but still just one movie, not a franchise.
Supposedly Star Gate is on the list. I hear Hollywood wants to remake Back to the Future, but someone with control of the rights has refused so far. That would be a hideous disaster if made with today's Hollywood people.
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Dirty Harriet
The African Queens
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The only Stargate news I want to hear is that there'll be another season of SG: Universe.
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What is left?
Beverly Hills Cop, but the Detroit cop just goes around apologizing to MS13 and other gangs, and they end up kneeling at the beginning of the Rose Bowl.
Die Hard, but strong female cop employs conflict resolution and they all celebrate Kwanza at Meta HQ.
Lethal Weapon but the scene where Riggs handcuffs himself the jumper is the whole movies and they talk out their feelings and agree their inner angst is because of internalized colonialism.
Predator, but the Alien is hunting coal miners to save us from Climate Change.
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I can go all night.
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Beverly Hills Cop, but the Detroit cop just goes around apologizing to MS13 and other gangs, and they end up kneeling at the beginning of the Rose Bowl.
Die Hard, but strong female cop employs conflict resolution and they all celebrate Kwanza at Meta HQ.
Lethal Weapon but the scene where Riggs handcuffs himself the jumper is the whole movies and they talk out their feelings and agree their inner angst is because of internalized colonialism.
Predator, but the Alien is hunting coal miners to save us from Climate Change.
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I can go all night.
Can they can still have an evil white guy fall off the building?
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Can they can still have an evil white guy fall off the building?
The former Mrs. McClain saves everyone by throwing all the white guys off the building.
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Death Wish ----> Equity Wish.
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The Outlaw Josefine Whales
Big Jane
20,000 Kilometers Under the Sea
Predator - Alien shows up and kills all the high testosterone men. Mostly the same as the original. (I guess the last one was a female predator and did this.)
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Predator - Alien shows up and kills all the high testosterone men. Mostly the same as the original.
After it easily over powers all the 250lb muscle bound men a 90lb woman beats the Predator to death with her bare hands.
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Laura of Arabia
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After it easily over powers all the 250lb muscle bound men a 90lb woman beats the Predator to death with her bare hands.
I think that was pretty much the script for the prequal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJHmgJNUtY
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I think that was pretty much the script for the prequal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJHmgJNUtY
Yeah, almost forgot about that one.
But that's probably only because I'm a toxic man.
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Mad Maxine - woman drives a solar powered car across post-apocalyptic Australia spreading the gospel of green energy
Andrea Griffith Show - story of a small town's wonderful lady police chief
Queen Kong - Giant female ape grabs her boy toy and climbs a big building. (Spoiler: boy toy is saved by sister)
Little Womyn - Involves heroic groomers and drag storytimes
Jane Wick - assassin goes around counseling evil men to accept DEI policies . . . or else.
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Mad Maxine - woman drives a solar powered car across post-apocalyptic Australia spreading the gospel of green energy
Andrea Griffith Show - story of a small town's wonderful lady police chief
Queen Kong - Giant female ape grabs her boy toy and climbs a big building. (Spoiler: boy toy is saved by sister)
Little Womyn - Involves heroic groomers and drag storytimes
Jane Wick - assassin goes around counseling evil men to accept DEI policies . . . or else.
Queen Kong has already been done
Brandon's Cult Movie Reviews: Queen Kong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kZF_ShMX2s
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Jennifer Lawrence of Arabia
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Jennifer Lawrence of Arabia
Ah, yes the first time a woman has ever been in a military movie.
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Watching Drinker live and they said John Williams stated they're reshooting the ending to IJ5 after test audiences hated it.
Drinker posted the part germane to IJ5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnxO-8TND8
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“We must protect women from Henry Cavill”
- Witcher Insider
Get a load of the tweets at 03:58 OMG He dated Gina Carano!
Oh, and he only disagreed with the direction the show was taking because he hated working under a woman.
DAMAGE CONTROL! Witcher “insider” says Henry Cavill was SEDUCED by Gamergate!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JhgkKtmnl4&t=0s
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Dirty Harriet
The African Queens
The Agony of Being on Ecstasy
Ben Her
The Birdies
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The new Snow White movie.
So as to not offend there will be no dwarfs and no toxic prince
ALISON BOSHOFF: No dwarfs. No Prince. Disney's new Snow White is a bid not to leave the snowflake generation grumpy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11567055/ALISON-BOSHOFF-No-dwarfs-No-Prince-Snow-White-snowflake-generation.html
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Andrea Griffith Show - story of a small town's wonderful lady police chief
That was called "She's the Sheriff."
Also, they don't need to woke the Lethal Weapon movies. They were already pushing abortion and gun control. (And they were pretty stupid, besides that.)
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Also, they don't need to woke the Lethal Weapon movies. They were already pushing abortion and gun control. (And they were pretty stupid, besides that.)
1 and 2 were good popcorn movies.
But yeah, 3 and 4 they started to go nauseating woke including pushing gun control.
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Jennifer Lawrence of Arabia
Vicki Lawrence of Arabia could be interesting
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authoring/2017/08/19/NENT/ghows-PR-54158572-f9f6-51fa-e053-0100007fa882-4b63cd52.jpeg)
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The new Snow White movie.
So as to not offend there will be no dwarfs and no toxic prince
ALISON BOSHOFF: No dwarfs. No Prince. Disney's new Snow White is a bid not to leave the snowflake generation grumpy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11567055/ALISON-BOSHOFF-No-dwarfs-No-Prince-Snow-White-snowflake-generation.html
Casting a Latina actress in the title role, shouldn't it be re-titled Snow Brown?
No prince? I have to ask, will Snow Brown be looking for . . . another princess? Maybe one from Wakanda?
And with CGI nonhumans filling the role of dwarfs, what about the names? Will the stupid one still be called "Dopey?"
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Will the stupid one still be called "Dopey?"
Whitey
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Sounds like IJ5 is going to disprove the theory that only odd numbered Indy movies are worth seeing... as well as disprove the theory that the only good Indy movies have Nazis in them.
I can't describe how disappointed I am in the Willow series. To be fair, the source material was never deep enough to tolerate a sequel. Same goes for the Dark Crystal, or Labyrinth, or any of the 80's children's fantasy properties. I'm not disappointed in the result (I expected nothing less than what we got), I'm disappointed that the effort was put in, in the first place. I also dislike that Val Kilmer's Madmartigan was given no honors. Kilmer's Ice Man character was incorporated into the Top Gun sequel in a tasteful and plot-respectful manner and was a richer movie for it.
Carry Elwes and Ryan Reynolds probably saved us from a Princess Bride remake; Elwes was quoted in the last few years about the topic, saying "there's a shortage of perfect movies in this world; it would be a pity to damage this one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3yKk7FC9Bg)" Add to that, Reynolds gave us the PG-13 cut of Deadpool 2 (Once Upon a Deadpool (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKu72oUc_q8)), which featured a faux kidnapped Fred Savage as an adult in a painstakingly recreated bedroom from his Princess Bride scenes, with Reynolds in Deadpool garb reading to him.
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Probably a good thread for this:
https://youtu.be/PtYtcqSlOcQ
Top five woke disasters of 2022. He did particularly well on Rings of Power.
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I just watched that.
I can honestly say, of everything that was presented on that list, there were NONE that I have, or had, or will ever have, any interest in watching.
And that was before that list came out.
The amazing thing about all of that is that none of those people are going to learn anything about fan bases, and they're going to continue to pour out the same kind of supermessaging mess, to the same response from the general public, and they're going to continue to scream racism/anti-trans/anti-gay/anti-whatever.
And they call us fat white cis males completely tone deaf...
Time to get some popcorn and see what massive failures they have in store for 2023.
Here's a story plot they really should consider... hell, they may even be doing so now...
It is a dark time in the realm, a mysterious illness is sweeping the land.
The benevolent leader, Lord Fauchi, has used his golden magic healing powers to create a healing potion that he distributes free of charge to his loving subjects.
But, there is disharmony! The Evil Orange Cheetohair is sewing discontent and disinformation about the healing potion, and many uncolored racist haters refuse to take the potion.
The illness changes them into minions of the Evil Orange Cheetohair, making his army strong.
In the climactic battle for power, Evil Orange Cheetohair sends his demented army to attack Lord Fauchi's castle and seize his councilors of state.
Lord Fauchi calls out his praetorian guard, The Scissor Squad, to do battle. The Scissor Squad is made up of true born Wymn, and many Wymn with penises, all who glory in their non-binaryness.
After a hard-fought battle on the castle grounds, the Scissor Squad defeats Evil Orange Cheetohair's army and celebrates not with a feast, but with a lesbian orgy, the purest expression of love and political compliance that there can be.
I don't know. I think it has potential. I'd really like to see Disney spent, oh... $750 million on it?
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I can honestly say, of everything that was presented on that list, there were NONE that I have, or had, or will ever have, any interest in watching.
Same, and I watched even the older Star Wars related stuff (like the jar jar era) just because it was star wars, so who cares if it wasn't great? But the current stuff, as well as Marvel, etc. is not even on my radar because of the woke politics. I'm simply done with it all. I did watch The Witcher, but without Henry trying to hold the line, I'm probably done there too.
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"Same, and I watched even the older Star Wars related stuff (like the jar jar era)"
Meesa thinks you just a big racist, betcha betcha!
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As I think was mentioned, I am hearing Andor was good (as far as Star Wars goes), but I just can't see myself signing up for Disney again to watch it. I don't want to support that company. I figure there will be non-Disney options at some point.
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As I think was mentioned, I am hearing Andor was good (as far as Star Wars goes), but I just can't see myself signing up for Disney again to watch it. I don't want to support that company. I figure there will be non-Disney options at some point.
What I've heard too. Unfortunately for Andor most SW fans at this point been burnt too many times by flaming disappointments now to care.
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I watched the first 3 or 4 episodes of Andor, and it was pretty good, but not good enough for me to go back to it, or think "I gotta go finish Andor!" Shrug. We'll see what the next season of Mando looks like. Like Ben I suspect Season 3 of The Witcher is my last. I like the books too much to watch it go down in flames.
Actually, the PS5 purchase is looking pretty solid as far as entertainment goes. Like $100 in games and I'm good on screen time till probably sometime in March. Which handily enough is when Jedi Survivor comes out.
Thinking about that, I might need to downgrade my Netflix subscription to something cheaper.
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What I've heard too. Unfortunately for Andor most SW fans at this point been burnt too many times by flaming disappointments now to care.
It's very good. Kinda a slow burn, but far more character- and story-driven than a bunch of recent spinoff series. Much better off for it, too.
Brad
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The new Snow White movie.
So as to not offend there will be no dwarfs and no toxic prince
ALISON BOSHOFF: No dwarfs. No Prince. Disney's new Snow White is a bid not to leave the snowflake generation grumpy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11567055/ALISON-BOSHOFF-No-dwarfs-No-Prince-Snow-White-snowflake-generation.html
Hmmm ...
There was some backlash after Zegler (pictured), who is Colombian-American, was cast as Snow White. Zegler, 21, said: 'Never in a million years did I imagine that this would be a possibility for me. You don't normally see Snow Whites of Latin descent, even though Snow White is a big deal in Spanish-speaking countries.'
She added: 'People are making these jokes about ours being the PC Snow White . . . yeah, it is — because it needed that. It's an 85-year-old cartoon and our version is a refreshing story about a young woman who has a function beyond 'Someday My Prince Will Come'.'
WHY did it "need" that? With the changes that have apparently been made, it's no longer the Snow White story -- irrespective of what name they pin on the lead character.
Disney will not be content until they have destroyed Walt's entire legacy.
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Hmmm ...
WHY did it "need" that? With the changes that have apparently been made, it's no longer the Snow White story -- irrespective of what name they pin on the lead character.
Disney will not be content until they have destroyed Walt's entire legacy.
Disney is incapable of making anything new. I think their corporate organization is aligned to prevent it. All they have done in the last decade or more is buy other companies which eventually are destroyed by the same corporate group think.
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. . . The amazing thing about all of that is that none of those people are going to learn anything about fan bases, and they're going to continue to pour out the same kind of supermessaging mess, to the same response from the general public, and they're going to continue to scream racism/anti-trans/anti-gay/anti-whatever . . .
Nothing new about this, it's just becoming more blatant and extreme.
Back in the late '80s and early 90s there was a TV show my mother initially liked called Designing Women. It lasted seven seasons, but my mother quit watching it in disgust about midway through its run when the producer - a flaming liberal - decided to make it lefty political. When asked, the producer said she HAD to make it a lefty political screed, since people were voting the wrong way in elections. And she stubbornly kept her messaging in place as the ratings dwindled.
In much the same way (and for much the same reasons) the first couple of years of M*A*S*H were better than the last couple of years. Turning back the clock a bit, we even saw what came to be known as political correctness creeping into old TV favorites like Bonanza.
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She added: 'People are making these jokes about ours being the PC Snow White . . . yeah, it is — because it needed that. It's an 85-year-old cartoon and our version is a refreshing story about a young woman who has a function beyond 'Someday My Prince Will Come'.'
More to the point, it's a 211 year old German story. I actually not long ago got around to reading the Grimm fairy tales in the original kraut. Let's just say they are a little darker than the Disney movies.
The amazing thing about all of that is that none of those people are going to learn anything about fan bases, and they're going to continue to pour out the same kind of supermessaging mess, to the same response from the general public, and they're going to continue to scream racism/anti-trans/anti-gay/anti-whatever.
The dude in my link actually explained that pretty well - Hollywood is doing this for Hollywood. They are looking at the Hollywood demographic and pushing this to satisfy themselves, vs the people in America who actually pay them.
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Yep, Hollywood Frotage.
I recorded Amsterdam on my DVR over Christmas with the intention of watching it when I got home.
But then I heard that Robert Diniro's character gives what is essentially an anti-Trump screed masquerading as content for the plot of a period set piece... I'm probably just going to delete it without watching it.
I have better stuff on the DVR, like 3 episodes of Kolchak: The Night Stalker.
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The dude in my link actually explained that pretty well - Hollywood is doing this for Hollywood. They are looking at the Hollywood demographic and pushing this to satisfy themselves, vs the people in America who actually pay them.
Very true, but they're using the old stories, characters, and properties to try to trick the people in America to buy it.
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More to the point, it's a 211 year old German story.
It is probably a lot older than that. The Grim brothers thought of themselves as folklore historians, and they transcribed stories they heard (and they actually tamed some of them down a lot too... the originals were a lot darker than their versions... Snow White gets impregnated by the Prince while sleeping in the coffin, if I remember correctly).
I have heard some of the fairy tales are based on some of the oldest stories known, thousands of years old.
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OMG!
I was hearing bad things about this but this goes beyond bad.
Who made this obviously hates the show, hates the characters, hates the fans, and wants to watch it and them all burn. How does something like this even get green lighted?
I was never a big fan of the show myself, despite it being a Saturday morning staple, but holly hell WTF?
Take it Drinker
Velma Is Complete And Utter Trash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8w2Vv_RSY
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Currently sitting at 1.5 out of 10 on IMDB
But guess what
WTF! Velma season 2 gets the green light!? HBO Max DOUBLES DOWN on Scooby Doo prequel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjLZgx9ADQ
And of course you're a racist bigot if you don't like it.
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I had heard that show was only allowed to finish because it was already done when the current leadership took over. Green lighting a 2nd season sounds like people in the leadership are not actually watching the shows.
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Currently sitting at 1.5 out of 10 on IMDB
But guess what
WTF! Velma season 2 gets the green light!? HBO Max DOUBLES DOWN on Scooby Doo prequel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjLZgx9ADQ
And of course you're a racist bigot if you don't like it.
:facepalm:
When did Velma go from white devil to POC?
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From all I've seen and read, it's SO not worth watching!
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From all I've seen and read, it's SO not worth watching!
Watch the Drinker video, what they did to the characters is beyond anything I've ever seen before. This thing was made by someone who wants the fans to hate it.
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Watch the Drinker video, what they did to the characters is beyond anything I've ever seen before. This thing was made by someone who wants the fans to hate it.
BT;DT
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I had heard that show was only allowed to finish because it was already done when the current leadership took over. Green lighting a 2nd season sounds like people in the leadership are not actually watching the shows.
Or else they're afraid to drop it because it might make them appear to be unwoke and r...
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Or else they're afraid to drop it because it might make them appear to be unwoke and r...
I heard someone mention ESG scores also.
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I thought Scooby Doo was stupid when I was 9 years old. Can't imagine a newer woke version being anywhere near watchable.
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I thought Scooby Doo was stupid when I was 9 years old. Can't imagine a newer woke version being anywhere near watchable.
Very much this.
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I loved Scooby Doo.
I still love Scooby Doo and will, when I have the chance, watch the original shows.
The later iterations, Scooby and Friends, Scooby and Scrappy... those were horrific.
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I enjoyed Scooby as a kid, but I don't think I've watched it since.
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This will probably start a fight but I thought the Live action movies (2002 and 2004) are the best Scooby Doo media.
I watched the show on Saturday mornings as a kid, but it was always a little campy, at best. That said, the themes of work together as a team and beware of creepy groundskeepers are good lessons for kids.
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I enjoyed Scooby as a kid, but I don't think I've watched it since.
Same here.
I enjoyed the live action movies, but not enough to own a copy or anything.
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As I think was mentioned, I am hearing Andor was good (as far as Star Wars goes), but I just can't see myself signing up for Disney again to watch it. I don't want to support that company. I figure there will be non-Disney options at some point.
I watched Andor. And I think Rogue One is the only good contribution that Disney has made to the Star Wars story and franchise.
But I have a big problem with Andor, that I am surprised others don't have: The whole reason Casian committed to the Scarrif raid was because of his time as a spy. He and his fellow wet-work mercs had been fighting for the rebellion their entire lives. They had done unconscionable things that they had a hard time living with (our introduction to Casian in that movie is evidence of this well enough, when he kills his informant contact because the man is incapable of escaping imperial arrest). They had invested their consciences and souls into the Rebellion, and it wasn't paying off. So they committed to the Scarrif raid under Jyn's leadership, in a bid to finally spark the real war for freedom rather than the endless political wrangling that Mon Mothma and Bail Organa were mired in.
I wanted to see THIS side of Casian Andor. The spy, the wet-work for the Rebellion, the selling of his soul to buy freedom for all. And I don't think this show presented that.
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I watched Andor. And I think Rogue One is the only good contribution that Disney has made to the Star Wars story and franchise.
But I have a big problem with Andor, that I am surprised others don't have: The whole reason Casian committed to the Scarrif raid was because of his time as a spy. He and his fellow wet-work mercs had been fighting for the rebellion their entire lives. They had done unconscionable things that they had a hard time living with (our introduction to Casian in that movie is evidence of this well enough, when he kills his informant contact because the man is incapable of escaping imperial arrest). They had invested their consciences and souls into the Rebellion, and it wasn't paying off. So they committed to the Scarrif raid under Jyn's leadership, in a bid to finally spark the real war for freedom rather than the endless political wrangling that Mon Mothma and Bail Organa were mired in.
I wanted to see THIS side of Casian Andor. The spy, the wet-work for the Rebellion, the selling of his soul to buy freedom for all. And I don't think this show presented that.
Liked that R1 gave us a peak into the dark underbelly of the rebellion and it's effect on those involved. The rebellion was never going to succeed unless there were those willing to get their hands dirty outside of the lime light. It made for a far more human story than we usually get in the SW verse.
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Toy Story 5 announced
Your guesses?
Toy Story 5, Toy Lives Matter
Toy Story 5, Brokeback Toy Box
Toy Story 5, Coming out of the box.
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Toy Story 5 announced
Your guesses?
Toy Story 5, Toy Lives Matter
Toy Story 5, Brokeback Toy Box
Toy Story 5, Coming out of the box.
Undoubtedly Andy really needed girl toys this whole time and the final sequel will do away with the toxic boy toys.
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https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1623751790159097857
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Foi5ojDWIAIPll4?format=jpg&name=medium)
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I heard about that.
Lube Skywalker and Han Swallow.
Gives new meaning to "Han shot first". =D :laugh: :facepalm:
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Star Wars is dead. At least Disney Star Wars is dead. Disney Star Wars and Disney Marvel have become bad internet fan fiction.
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1.4 on IMDB. One if the lowest scores ever.
7% audience score on RT
And yet......
Warner CEO confirms Velma Season 2! Mindy Kaling PROMOTED and working on MULTIPLE new shows!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpU9AU4zpA4
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Don't ever think they're giving up and as usual they're changing existing characters instead of creating new one.
Starsky & Hutch Sasha and Nicole
With show-runners Sam Sklaver and Elizabeth Peterson, the new series is said to focus on the two female detectives, Sasha Starsky and Nicole Hutchinson.
Starsky & Hutch is 'set to return to screens as Fox develop a revamped female-led version of the 1970s show'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11763265/Starsky-Hutch-set-return-screens-Fox-develop-female-led-version-1970s-show.html
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Don't ever think they're giving up and as usual they're changing existing characters instead of creating new one.
Starsky & Hutch Sasha and Nicole
Starsky & Hutch is 'set to return to screens as Fox develop a revamped female-led version of the 1970s show'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11763265/Starsky-Hutch-set-return-screens-Fox-develop-female-led-version-1970s-show.html
I am not young, but I think that show was before my time. What audience are they trying to attract? The only way it gets attention is if they go heavy into 70's fashion which might give it some boost.
Of course, it is probably cheaper to make than superhero movies or SciFi.
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. . . Starsky & Hutch is 'set to return to screens as Fox develop a revamped female-led version of the 1970s show' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11763265/Starsky-Hutch-set-return-screens-Fox-develop-female-led-version-1970s-show.html
Wow, two female cops as the leads. What are they going to call this brilliant new concept show - Cagney and Lacey? Or maybe Rizzoli and Isles?
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Willow got canned.
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxBbJkU6AYtGtt8BuCvmHflZT5RomyNM8O
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Because of the WAR ON GAZE!
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Willow got canned.
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxBbJkU6AYtGtt8BuCvmHflZT5RomyNM8O
I liked Willow as a kid, but its entire world falls apart as an adult. In general, I loathe fantasy properties that rely upon "prophecies" that are less than 1 generation old in their world. Tir Asleen had barely fallen in the movie, and a veteran soldier army existed that could fight against Bavmorda and had been doing so. Elora Danon was a MacGuffin plot device. The whole movie would have been stronger without Elora Danon and the prophecy, and instead relied upon the simplicity of Bavmorda's terror as a plot motivator.
Prophecies absent a religious underpinning irk me. If they rely upon agnostic magical powers then the metaphysics of the magical system need to be fleshed out as to how good and evil are defined, how balance is regarded, and what forces are in play to generate a prophecy that adepts may use as guidance.
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And what advertisement just came up for me in my Utoob video?
Disney's Willow!
:rofl:
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Comment on YT pretty much sums up Hollywood today
Disney: "We've got this new series out! Go watch it!"
Normal people: "What's the series about?"
Disney: "It's got a very diverse cast and offers more LGBT representation than any other show on the planet!"
Normal people: "But what's the series about?"
Disney: "Either watch the series or you're a filthy istaphobe!"
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It's really interesting how Disney is not just doubling, but quadrupling down on this crap. I thought whathisname came back on to put a stop to it. Do the Disney heirs have that much power to keep the delusion going?
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It's really interesting how Disney is not just doubling, but quadrupling down on this crap. I thought whathisname came back on to put a stop to it. Do the Disney heirs have that much power to keep the delusion going?
Bob Eisner is the one who started Disney down that path. He isn't going to change anything. The temporary CEO they put in place was only there so Eisner didn't take the hit for the COVID reductions.
I have heard Eisner had pretentions of running for President, but I don't know if that is still the case.
I don't think Disney will change direction without losing a great deal more money. Most of their income comes from the parks from what I hear so it will take a lot.
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Word on the street is that Disney is doing a Godzilla movie in which the lizard is a cross-dressing transvestite newt of color...
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Word on the street is that Disney is doing a Godzilla movie in which the lizard is a cross-dressing transvestite newt of color...
Reptar?
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And now the LGBTQITDX&7~~...3EIEO9 community is rioting over Disney CANCELING DA GAZE!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/furious-lgbt-willow-fans-spark-hashtag-cancelyourgays-after-disney-plus-axes-tv-show/ar-AA18HisB?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=6d7591a32c014ca0985487975be6fee9&ei=73