Armed Polite Society

Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: WLJ on December 05, 2022, 03:11:57 PM

Title: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2022, 03:11:57 PM
40,000 homes without power.

North Carolina power substations taken out by gunfire: sheriff
https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-power-substations-taken-out-gunfire-moore-county-sheriff

Now some are trying to link it to the "far right" saying it was done to shut down a local drag show despite the police saying there is no connection.

40,000 homes in North Carolina left without power after electrical substations are shot up: Police probe links to residents protesting drag show which was cut short when lights went out
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11501475/40-000-North-Carolina-homes-without-power-second-night-targeted-attack-electrical-substation.html
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Boomhauer on December 05, 2022, 03:28:37 PM
That’s interesting.

NC is a powder keg waiting to blow, thanks to the far left transplants running roughshod over the native population.

Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Ben on December 05, 2022, 03:30:47 PM
One might don tinfoil and ponder "proof of concept" test.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: French G. on December 05, 2022, 06:33:55 PM
Seemed pretty obvious for years that those are easy targets. I learned from the govt I was in though, in Serbia they toasted the grid with graphite bombs that released carbon fiber to fry everything in the substation. Figure a decent drone can carry a fair bit of graphite flock.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 05, 2022, 07:16:32 PM
Not the first time, or even the second.  Recall that California substation getting ventilated after the datalinks monitoring the site were cut in two different utility vaults.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 06, 2022, 09:48:25 AM
Yeah, I'm sure the MAGA Republicans are ready to cut power to thousands of homes and businesses and churches just to turn out the lights on some transvestites. Sounds plausible...
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: K Frame on December 06, 2022, 10:02:22 AM
I know the solution!

Nationalize the power company grid! That will ensure that this won't happen again!
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: MechAg94 on December 06, 2022, 11:24:45 AM
Seemed pretty obvious for years that those are easy targets. I learned from the govt I was in though, in Serbia they toasted the grid with graphite bombs that released carbon fiber to fry everything in the substation. Figure a decent drone can carry a fair bit of graphite flock.
I hadn't heard of graphite bombs.  Thanks for the steer.  Sounds to me like it would shut down electrical yards possibly without causing too much permanent damage depending on how quick the fail safe switching is. 

From Wikipedia.
Quote
The graphite bomb was first used against Iraq in the Gulf War (1990–1991), knocking out 85% of the electrical supply. Similarly, the BLU-114/B "Soft-Bomb" graphite bomb was used by NATO against Serbia in May 1999, disabling 70% of that country's power grid. After initial success in disabling Serbian electric power systems, the electric supply was restored in less than 24 hours. The BLU-114/B was again used a few days later to counter Serbian efforts to restore damage caused by the initial attack. In the later stage of Operation Allied Force, NATO's air forces used conventional bombs and rockets to target power highlines and transformer stations.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 06, 2022, 11:56:18 AM
Hey, I know what this is all about! Republicans are anti-science, remember? They must hate electricity. They're taking down the power grid, to bring us all closer to God!

and white supremacy
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: lee n. field on December 06, 2022, 12:55:36 PM
Yeah, I'm sure the MAGA Republicans are ready to cut power to thousands of homes and businesses and churches just to turn out the lights on some transvestites. Sounds plausible...

Saw something (Bookface link to a twitter post) blaming "christofascists".
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 06, 2022, 12:59:14 PM
Saw something (Bookface link to a twitter post) blaming "christofascists".


Not fair! Just because the Amish are trying to destroy electrical power in this country doesn't mean all Christians are anti-electric-grid!
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 06, 2022, 04:32:37 PM

Not fair! Just because the Amish are trying to destroy electrical power in this country doesn't mean all Christians are anti-electric-grid!

The Amish conspiracy looms!
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: WLJ on December 06, 2022, 04:40:09 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/5d/52/6f5d524f85bb706d5c2ac3fbd84e5a52.jpg)
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 06, 2022, 04:57:55 PM
I don't know if the Amish celebrate Christmas, but people put candles on trees before we had electric lights, so...
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: lee n. field on December 06, 2022, 05:04:16 PM

Not fair! Just because the Amish are trying to destroy electrical power in this country doesn't mean all Christians are anti-electric-grid!

One guy replied to my questioning of that:

Quote
Two friends of mine murdered by fascists so far this year, one antiqueet hate crime and one partner femicide.
52 other antiqueer hate crimes by last activist count, including at least one high profile mass shooting.
Hundreds of thousands of deadly threats, at a noticeably higher rate than ever before.
Famous pundits and politicians running for office calling for and cheering on terrorist violence against us.
I've been asking this twitter user for more evidence to show people but...
our rhetoric is not inflamed. That is simply a lie.
Our rhetoric is pathologically calm, to the point that it's killing us.
If our rhetoric was really inflamed, churches would be getting blown up and rightwing agitators would be getting disappeared.

Someone's going to start shooting sometime.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: MechAg94 on December 06, 2022, 05:53:37 PM
One guy replied to my questioning of that:

Someone's going to start shooting sometime.

"partner femicide" is included in the "murdered by fascists" count? 

I hear "right wing" people from TV or youtube talk about getting death threats as a daily part of life not worth complaining about.  Been going on for years. 

I would like to see examples of the "Famous pundits and politicians running for office calling for and cheering on terrorist violence against us."  Seen far too many people stretch very innocent statements into whatever they want to imagine.  Show me the proof. 

"If our rhetoric was really inflamed, churches would be getting blown up and rightwing agitators would be getting disappeared." - There have been a number of Churches burned down, but not compared to the shear number of Churches out there.  The only "disappeared" people I can think of now are the Jan 6th people.  Nearly two years now.

You might be right about the shooting.  Consider that most of the "mass shooters" are NOT right wing agitators. 
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: gunsmith on December 06, 2022, 09:59:06 PM
 Matt Bracken iirc  talked about how easy it would be to shoot at substations and that people probably would if they became angry enough, is Moore county blue?   A few yrs ago some substations around San Jose. CA were shot at - it could be angry left or right wingers ... I personally suspect somebody needed to sell a lot of generators

Quote
Someone's going to start shooting sometime
  oh, they are indeed.

IDK if you guys watch/listen to Tim Pool/timcast - I used to, but honestly, kind of boring listening to a bunch of people with only a little bit of information ... anyway, he has been getting swatted a bunch and getting death threats for being "right wing" and recently someone shot at his home.
 Boy, attacking Tim Pool for being right wing is moronic , I can't wait for the mopes to attack a real right wing gun nut - the quartering has been speaking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMzLp86Zokw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg_Qoa3Biwc
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: HankB on December 06, 2022, 10:46:07 PM
Around 30 or 40 years ago, people were shooting out the insulators on high tension lines in rural Minnesota. It seems that a bunch of farmers had part of their land seized through eminent domain for powerline towers, and they felt the lines crossing their land had a negative effect on people and livestock. Very contentious, and some folks took to shooting out power lines, while others took out the bolts holding down towers and they fell. IIRC they eventually caught a few of these people and threw all kinds of Federal charges at them.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: BobR on December 06, 2022, 11:38:13 PM
Seemed pretty obvious for years that those are easy targets. I learned from the govt I was in though, in Serbia they toasted the grid with graphite bombs that released carbon fiber to fry everything in the substation. Figure a decent drone can carry a fair bit of graphite flock.

Even the old school chaff (aluminum/fiberglass) would shut down power, as the Navy figured out many years ago.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-07-30-me-4028-story.html


bob
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 07, 2022, 12:32:11 AM

 Boy, attacking Tim Pool for being right wing is moronic...


The realignment people keep talking about seems to be a movement from a left/right dichotomy to a dichotomy of the far, far, far left vs anyone who dares dissent from the far, far, far left.

That's why Pool and Musk and Trump are "far right" now.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Boomhauer on December 07, 2022, 04:41:12 AM
"partner femicide" is included in the "murdered by fascists" count? 

I hear "right wing" people from TV or youtube talk about getting death threats as a daily part of life not worth complaining about.  Been going on for years. 

I would like to see examples of the "Famous pundits and politicians running for office calling for and cheering on terrorist violence against us."  Seen far too many people stretch very innocent statements into whatever they want to imagine.  Show me the proof. 

"If our rhetoric was really inflamed, churches would be getting blown up and rightwing agitators would be getting disappeared." - There have been a number of Churches burned down, but not compared to the shear number of Churches out there.  The only "disappeared" people I can think of now are the Jan 6th people.  Nearly two years now.

You might be right about the shooting.  Consider that most of the "mass shooters" are NOT right wing agitators. 

As usual the left is projecting what they are actually doing onto the right. There are plenty of screenshots of leftists calling for anybody an inch to the right of them to be thrown into reeducation camps, gulags, death camps, etc, their property seized, rights stripped, murdered, heavily harassed, etc. And then there are the endless riots when these crybaby little *expletive deleted*s don’t get their way or a criminal piece of *expletive deleted*it they can martyr gets killed.

I have yet to see right wingers pull innocents out of cars and beat the hell out of them, or burn city blocks down.

But if they think that they are “holding back” and they are going to start burning churches (lord they hate churches!) and “disappearing” us, let’s go mother *expletive deleted*ers, let’s get this party started. Come down to the the Deep South and let’s get it on, you can have a shot at all of us “racist hillbillies”. Stop hiding in Portland and Seattle where your governments are aligned with you, come out to where all these flyover hicks live and shoot your shot.




Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 07, 2022, 10:46:38 AM
What caliber for substation?
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: dogmush on December 07, 2022, 11:09:46 AM
What's the over under on this being Climate Change "activists"? 
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Ben on December 07, 2022, 11:10:44 AM
What caliber for substation?

Something subsonic.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Ben on December 07, 2022, 11:12:17 AM
What's the over under on this being Climate Change "activists"?

Better odds than "tried to stop a drag show".
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: lee n. field on December 07, 2022, 12:23:51 PM
This guy, right here (https://twitter.com/EmbryEthan/status/1599282404702965760?fbclid=IwAR0TDufYHTi-jqzhKkPmYqdF4c7feXRMZ9q_VypVeuEfTkc-WYErHgsEbIk).

Quote
A group of christofascists has shot at power substations in Moore county to shut down a drag show happening in town. 40,000 residents are without power, people who need power for medical devices, families who need to stay warm, plunging a community into darkness. A terror attack.

Apparently he's a (minor) actor of some sort (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Embry).
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: lee n. field on December 07, 2022, 12:42:37 PM
The realignment people keep talking about seems to be a movement from a left/right dichotomy to a dichotomy of the far, far, far left vs anyone who dares dissent from the far, far, far left.

That's why Pool and Musk and Trump are "far right" now.

When I see Wikipedia (as an example) say some person or institution is "far right", I know I can ignore that.  The words when they say it just don't mean anything much, and I need to keep researching elsewhere.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Ben on December 07, 2022, 12:59:17 PM
When I see Wikipedia (as an example) say some person or institution is "far right", I know I can ignore that.

Yup. That has been a pretty good marker for me lately. While a news source may actually have accurate information somewhere in the article, I pretty much automatically dismiss reading or watching once the "far right" bogeyman comes out.

I've actually been noticing it a lot more even here in "far right" Idaho, where the so called "local" news has begun using the term a lot, to include pretty moderate conservative state politicians and groups.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 07, 2022, 03:54:38 PM
Yup. That has been a pretty good marker for me lately. While a news source may actually have accurate information somewhere in the article, I pretty much automatically dismiss reading or watching once the "far right" bogeyman comes out.


When the accepted (by the media) norm is far^4 left, anything or anyone to the right of that is easily far right. Compared to the media's norm, a pet rock is far right.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: Ben on December 08, 2022, 08:20:29 AM
Claims that this is now occurring in Oregon and Washington as well:

https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/memo-oregon-washington-substations-intentionally-attacked/

I note that they 100% focus on "white supremacists" and "anti-government groups". I'll bet real money that their list of anti-government groups doesn't include groups like antifa, who have a documented history of violent property destruction.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: French G. on December 08, 2022, 09:47:44 AM
Most likely copycat morons which are sprinkled liberally on all the edges of the political spectrum. Now if you got enough tinfoils let’s say government run false flag and they are coordinating internationally to make the far right the bogeyman. See the roundup of the German coup plotters yesterday.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: zxcvbob on December 08, 2022, 04:01:47 PM
Most likely copycat morons which are sprinkled liberally on all the edges of the political spectrum. Now if you got enough tinfoils let’s say government run false flag and they are coordinating internationally to make the far right the bogeyman. See the roundup of the German coup plotters yesterday.

There are copycat morons everywhere just waiting for their chance.  And I believe there are government provocateurs encouraging them.  When one does go off, the right will be blamed for it if at all possible, and if that's not possible the incident is swept under the rug.  I doubt it is coordinated much beyond that.
Title: Re: Someone is shooting up electrical substations in NC
Post by: WLJ on December 08, 2022, 04:38:30 PM
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/fascists-fascists-everywhere.jpg)