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Title: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: K Frame on December 06, 2022, 01:59:52 PM
Looks like Kyle Rittenhouse has a new job!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-gas-station-owner-hires-security-armed-ar-15s-protect-store-tired-this-nonsense
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: WLJ on December 06, 2022, 02:10:48 PM
When the first low life POS community parasite, whoops I mean outstanding community hero and all around nice guy, gets shot the city will come down on the station owner like a ton of bricks. Say his name.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: MechAg94 on December 06, 2022, 05:06:34 PM
I guess it is the intimidation factor.  He can't really shoot thieves who have no weapon. 
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: Lennyjoe on December 06, 2022, 06:37:07 PM
Desperate times takes desperate measures.  Guess they’re tired of all the crime going on in that area.

Imagine if there is an incident the owner will be the scapegoat.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: dogmush on December 06, 2022, 06:48:37 PM
How is this different, legally, from any other armed private security guard? PR wise, I agree it's different, but the armed guard laws should be the same here as it is at a bank, mall, orange other armed security post.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: dogmush on December 06, 2022, 07:10:57 PM
Side note:

If this is the guards they are talking about, I am unimpressed.  https://twitter.com/JasonFox29/status/1599954291938074624?s=20&t=yLn-1UhjRZVEyv5ngwH_GQ

A 9mm AR pistol on one, and a unreliable bullpup 12ga probably aren't the long guns I'd go for.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: Bogie on December 06, 2022, 09:49:47 PM
During the Floyd, etc., crap here in St. Louis (yeah, they took full advantage...), a local stop'n'rob got... protested at for two nights in a row. Third night, they had Bubba sitting in the front door with an AR.
 
No problems after that.
 
Maybe "protesters" would try to test it, but "looters" are generally more intelligent.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: 230RN on December 06, 2022, 10:07:27 PM
My thoughts would be twofold. 

1. Is he playing lookout for someone inside who's robbing the joint and anyone who ventures in? (Unlikely, but it would occur to me.) 

2.  It's too bad things have gone that far that armed guards are needed at a damned gas station.

I'd probably tap my pocket instinctively but unnecessarily and hope five J-frame shots would be adequate, but hobble in anyhow.  I might switch my cane to my off hand "just in case."

Or, as HeroHog observed, "I might not last very long or be very effective but I'll be a real pain in the ass for a minute!
MOLON LABE!"

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: K Frame on December 07, 2022, 07:04:12 AM
In 1991 there were riots in Washington, DC, along the Georgia Ave. corridor after a guy was shot by the cops during a Cinco de Mayo street party that got out of hand.

The first night it was mostly locals with some police cars burned and a few stores looted. The second night the out of town "talent" came in to riot, and riot they did. Lots of looting and destruction.

One of the only stores not looted or burned in the Mount Pleasant area was owned by a man who sat out front all night armed with a shotgun. Police left him alone, and the rioters largely left him alone.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: dogmush on December 07, 2022, 07:56:04 AM
^^  That kind of thing is true, see also: the rooftop Koreans of LA, but I confess if I pulled into a gas station and saw either one of those guys flagging traffic, the parking lot, and the gas pumps, I'd pull back out and keep going.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: Bogie on December 07, 2022, 08:24:16 AM
Local QT stations have armed guards. My Aldi has a no-*expletive deleted*it-taking ol' boy with a revolver on his hip and a slapjack in his back pocket.
 
I go in, I say "How you doin', Sixgun?"
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: 230RN on December 07, 2022, 11:46:32 AM
What's "QT" and "Aldis?"
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: zxcvbob on December 07, 2022, 12:02:56 PM
What's "QT" and "Aldis?"

QT is a convenience store, very similar to 7-Eleven.  I don't think there are any around here, but I see lots of them in Missouri.  I thought everyone knew that Aldi is a discount (mostly private label) supermarket.  Do you not have them in Colorado?  (if not, how do you afford groceries?)
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: Ben on December 07, 2022, 12:12:57 PM
QT is a convenience store, very similar to 7-Eleven.  I don't think there are any around here, but I see lots of them in Missouri.  I thought everyone knew that Aldi is a discount (mostly private label) supermarket.  Do you not have them in Colorado?  (if not, how do you afford groceries?)

I actually only know about Aldis because it's mentioned so often here on APS. I guess they had them in CA, but none anywhere I was. From their store locator, they appear to be completely missing from the entire Pacific Northwest, and much of the mountain West.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: HeroHog on December 07, 2022, 12:56:40 PM
QT = Quick Trip?
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 07, 2022, 02:02:48 PM
QT = Quick Trip?

Yup.
Regional and growing convenience store/gas station chain.
Generally, my first choice due to overall cleanliness and lack of scuzzy-ness.
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: 230RN on December 07, 2022, 11:50:43 PM
It seemed kind of provincial to assume everything in "my" province is the same all over the world in every other province.

Just wondered about it.  No, not that I know of here in Colorado, another province out of 50 of them, and  I haven't refilled my mind reading pill Rx yet.

Terry
 
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: Doggy Daddy on December 08, 2022, 03:40:41 AM
It seemed kind of provincial to assume everything in "my" province is the same all over the world in every other province.

Just wondered about it.  No, not that I know of here in Colorado, another province out of 50 of them, and  I haven't refilled my mind reading pill Rx yet.

Terry

Out here in the heathen provinces we have a thing called "Google".   =D
Title: Re: Philly gas station owner sick of crime, hires AR-15-wielding security
Post by: 230RN on December 08, 2022, 06:23:51 AM
The question would not have occurred if something like "stop and grab" and "local supermarket " had been used instead of "QT" and "Aldis."

Best writing advice I ever got was "Put the reader's head on your shoulders."

If I had referred to "The torch in the harbor," without referents, I'm sure I'd have got questions from the 49 other provinces about the Statue of Liberty's torch in New York Harbor.

But writing styles vary, so that's that.