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Title: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Ben on March 16, 2023, 09:21:18 AM
This actually happened right near where my parents used to live. I don't recall flooding like that in my entire life.

Anyway, $50K in used trucks is cheaper than $500K in new trees. Apparently they can get reimbursed for the trucks through FEMA, but CA EPA will probably fine them $1 million for water pollution.

https://youtu.be/OkaYA70eHqE

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfchronicle.com%2Fcalifornia%2Farticle%2Fflooding-farmers-truck-levee-video-17841260.php
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
Sounds great if it works.  Hope they can keep it from continuing to wash out.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 16, 2023, 06:24:24 PM
"Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style"

Is a Levy anything like a levee?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Ben on March 16, 2023, 06:28:28 PM
"Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style"

Is a Levy anything like a levee?

Inquiring minds want to know.

It's the Jewish version. Why do you ask? Are you a racist of some kind?
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Kingcreek on March 16, 2023, 06:38:45 PM
I didn’t follow the link but I’ve had Led Zeppelin playing in my head since I saw the thread title.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: charby on March 16, 2023, 07:00:50 PM
It's the Jewish version. Why do you ask? Are you a racist of some kind?

Taxation is theft
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: MillCreek on March 16, 2023, 07:41:45 PM
So did they drive their Chevy to the levee?
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 16, 2023, 07:44:47 PM
So did they drive their Chevy to the levee?

That's what they plugged the levee with.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 16, 2023, 09:49:45 PM
That's what they plugged the levee with.

But the levee wasn't dry.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: griz on March 17, 2023, 07:29:31 AM
The thrifty side of me says there had to be a cheaper truck close by.  Maybe the farmers I know aren't as well to do.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: K Frame on March 17, 2023, 07:32:21 AM
Gives new meaning to Don McLean's American Pie...
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: charby on March 17, 2023, 07:35:27 AM
My experiences with 1993, 2008, and 2018 floods is that the flood water will just erode the levee either side of the vehicles and make a new hole.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: WLJ on March 17, 2023, 10:04:53 AM
But the levee wasn't dry.

Climate change
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 17, 2023, 10:58:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwiTs60VoTM
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: MechAg94 on March 17, 2023, 02:27:16 PM
My experiences with 1993, 2008, and 2018 floods is that the flood water will just erode the levee either side of the vehicles and make a new hole.
I was wondering if it would help them pile more dirt and stuff around it without it all washing away too fast. Hope they had more of a plan than just that.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: charby on March 17, 2023, 02:38:05 PM
I was wondering if it would help them pile more dirt and stuff around it without it all washing away too fast. Hope they had more of a plan than just that.

Full sandbags seem to work the best, but you got to get lot (I mean a lot) of them in place really fast.

Mother Nature is a real bitch when she's pissed.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Fly320s on March 17, 2023, 05:03:37 PM
"Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style"

Is a Levy anything like a levee?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Was it Eugene Levy? 
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Bogie on March 17, 2023, 11:03:53 PM
I'm guessing that they plugged thing thing well enough to where they could actually take care of the smaller problems with some sandbags - Looked like the truck beds were full of bricks or something?
 
And $50k worth of trucks was probably a damn sight cheaper than losing a fairly large harvest below the dam.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: JTHunter on March 18, 2023, 03:32:48 PM
It's the Jewish version. Why do you ask? Are you a racist of some kind?

"Levy" = taxation.  "Levi" = frequent Jewish name.  ;)
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Ben on March 18, 2023, 03:34:58 PM
"Levy" = taxation.  "Levi" = frequent Jewish name.  ;)

He would like a word with you:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.NrLOJXCe9QgbO74NJswvjAHaGL%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=c98c9ce9172b64b9d38a27154f34307dda0a723ed5e851776e125a0ee41ce207&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Nick1911 on March 18, 2023, 04:34:57 PM
The thrifty side of me says there had to be a cheaper truck close by.  Maybe the farmers I know aren't as well to do.

I got to think there's some sort of tax/usda/etc law that they've worked out how to get paid out on burning up vehicles like that.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: Ben on March 18, 2023, 04:55:15 PM
I got to think there's some sort of tax/usda/etc law that they've worked out how to get paid out on burning up vehicles like that.

The one link where I found the vid mentioned FEMA money.

To Bogie's point, it's not even about the crop. If the trees ended up not being saved, they'll all have to be pulled, ground reworked, and new trees planted. That can run well North of $500K for 80 acres, and up from there.
Title: Re: Plugging a Levy Break, Farmer Style
Post by: charby on March 18, 2023, 05:58:49 PM
The one link where I found the vid mentioned FEMA money.

To Bogie's point, it's not even about the crop. If the trees ended up not being saved, they'll all have to be pulled, ground reworked, and new trees planted. That can run well North of $500K for 80 acres, and up from there.

More than likely the water table from the flooding probably raised up to soil level and drowned out the roots of trees so they are going to die anyways.

Plugging the level will save the ag/orchard ground from sand and silt deposition. This happened a few years ago when the Missouri river flooded in Iowa, Nebraska and Missouri.