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Title: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Ben on March 16, 2023, 01:30:14 PM
I just got an email that Youtube TV is going from $65 to $73/mo. I guess it's time to review other options again. On the last increase, I was thinking about switching to Sling, but then they went up too. They were still cheaper than YT, but I ultimately stayed with the tubz. I guess I'll see what my cost/benefit shows this time.

On the plus side, YT is lowering 4K (which I'm not signed up for due to the ridiculous add-on cost) from $20/mo to $10/mo, with a 1 year promo trial at $5/mo. That could mitigate the increase, as YT is the only service where I'm not getting 4K now.

At any rate, streaming is sure becoming what I remember cable becoming back when I still had that. I bet for people that can get cable, there might even be better cable deals than streaming deals at this point, which was the exact opposite when YT TV, Sling, etc. all came out.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: dogmush on March 16, 2023, 01:37:32 PM
$73?

Damn.  I'm considering dropping Netflix because it's $20 a month.  I can't imagine any streaming service I'd pay $70/month for.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: K Frame on March 16, 2023, 01:37:47 PM
I'm still intending on going with Hulu +Live.

I just have to get around to actually killing my Verizon FIOS TV and home phone service.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: BobR on March 16, 2023, 01:41:09 PM
Standard business practice. Get a ton of people subscribed to your service and then slowly turn up the heat (prices) over time so it doesn't hurt as much. By the time they realize the the true price the company has had them for several years and many just suck it up and stay there because that is the way it has been. If it wasn't for SWMBO I would probably just go with OTA media and live with what I got.

bob
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: dogmush on March 16, 2023, 01:48:55 PM
Out of curiosity, what is the normal amount people spend on streaming services after cutting cable?

I have Netflix->$20/mo
You Tube Premium -> 10/mo
HBO Max (split with parents)-> $6/mo
Disney+ -> Free w/ cell plan
Hulu w/ Ads -> Free w/ cell plan
Amazon -> Free with my Prime membership.

And I don't watch all of those.  We'd have dropped off of Netflix's premium plan already but you gotta be on that to get 4K.   The whole point of dropping Cable was to pay less for brainless TV, why sign up for close to $100/month in brainless streaming?
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2023, 02:15:40 PM
$73?

Damn.  I'm considering dropping Netflix because it's $20 a month.  I can't imagine any streaming service I'd pay $70/month for.
Just to be clear, YoutubeTV is essentially a cable-over-the-internet service, not just streaming.  I was using it solely to get college football on ESPN among others.  I am not sure if I will do it again this Fall.  My interest in sports in general is at an all time low for me.

Also, it is only month to month so no contracts to deal with.

I was paying for DirecTV and internet.  I cut DirecTV several years ago.  I am in the process of switching to cable/fiber internet which is cheaper than DSL.  I figure I am saving a good bit compared to 10 years ago. 
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2023, 02:21:04 PM
Out of curiosity, what is the normal amount people spend on streaming services after cutting cable?

I have Netflix->$20/mo
You Tube Premium -> 10/mo
HBO Max (split with parents)-> $6/mo
Disney+ -> Free w/ cell plan
Hulu w/ Ads -> Free w/ cell plan
Amazon -> Free with my Prime membership.

And I don't watch all of those.  We'd have dropped off of Netflix's premium plan already but you gotta be on that to get 4K.   The whole point of dropping Cable was to pay less for brainless TV, why sign up for close to $100/month in brainless streaming?
Don't forget Paramount+   They have all the Star Trek stuff along with 1883, 1923, and Yellowstone.  And Tulsa King which I just finished and is a pretty good series.  I heard Picard Season 3 is relatively good so I plan to try that.

I think I only have Paramount and Amazon right now.  I need to finish watching some stuff on those before I switch over to something else.  I do NOT maintain all of them at the same time.  They are month to month and can be cut or added back easily. 

I guess Amazon stays with Prime, but I might cut that soon too.  I don't want to give Disney any money right now with all the crap they are doing. 
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 16, 2023, 02:30:09 PM
Yeah, I got the notice, too. I don't like price increases any more than the next guy, but eight bucks a month isn't worth getting worked up about. I drink twice that in beer during my regular Thursday for Happy Hours.

Brad
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: charby on March 16, 2023, 02:30:47 PM
Content isn't made for free and someone has to get paid.

I have Netflix and Hulu/Disney/ESPN+ bundle, also a 30' TV antenna tower for the local stations.
I also connect to my buddy's media server, so I have access to a crap ton of movies and TV shows.

I also use the free side of YouTube all the time and I tolerate the ads because it's free.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Ben on March 16, 2023, 02:33:47 PM
Content isn't made for free and someone has to get paid.

Youtube TV is full of commercials.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: dogmush on March 16, 2023, 02:41:45 PM
Don't forget Paramount+   They have all the Star Trek stuff along with 1883, 1923, and Yellowstone.  And Tulsa King which I just finished and is a pretty good series.  I heard Picard Season 3 is relatively good so I plan to try that.

I'm not going to pay for any of that.  Honestly I just watch less TV.  I have transitioned some of what used to be TV hours to my PS5, but also I just do other stuff.   I have no desire to increase my TV screen time right now.  Like I said, I might be dropping Netflix, although I watch that more than any other service except maybe YouTube.

I feel you on not giving Disney any money, but since I don't pay Verizon any more for the Disney account I'm not sure they'd loose any money if I dropped them, and I like the Nat Geo stuff and some of the Star Wars stuff.  I wouldn't pay for it either if it cost me anything.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Ben on March 16, 2023, 02:42:22 PM
Just to be clear, YoutubeTV is essentially a cable-over-the-internet service, not just streaming. 

That's one of the reasons I was paying for it, but there's hardly anything I constantly watch from live tv/dvr anymore except Fox Business and a few network series that I don't care much about anymore. I could easily wait for them to go to DVD, and just get Fox Business through another service, even Fox streaming, which is way cheaper than YT.

Otherwise, I hate having a bunch of separate services, but I might start doing the math on subscribing to some through Amazon Prime. I'm doing HBO Max through them right now, and as much as I complain about Amazon, having all the individual services in one place and paid through one account, where you can turn them on and off as desired, is a lot better than having a half dozen different accounts.

Right now I'm waiting for Picard Season 3 to finish up, then I'm gonna do the one week free trial of Paramount+ through Amazon and just binge the ten episodes.

As to Dogmush's question, currently:

YoutubeTV
Netflix + 4K
Hulu
Amazon Prime, with currently, the HBO Max add on, which I turn on and off depending on what's on.
Regular Youtube, which is commercial free on my Brave Browser, but I get the commercials on the TV.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: BobR on March 16, 2023, 02:47:11 PM
I have Paramount Plus right now because I got a year free with my cell carrier. I tried to cancel it last month and they gave me another month free to think it over I guess. We will see here in a day or so what their next move is. In the year I have had it I think we watched 2 or 3 movies and I watched the last season of Ink Master. I won't miss it. My Amazon buying is down quite a bit and seldom do we watch media on Amazon Prime so that one will be going at renewal time also. We keep Dish because if I tried to cut it then SWMBO would not be happy.

bob
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Ben on March 16, 2023, 02:53:46 PM
Yeah, I got the notice, too. I don't like price increases any more than the next guy, but eight bucks a month isn't worth getting worked up about. I drink twice that in beer during my regular Thursday for Happy Hours.

Brad

I'm not looking at it as $8. I'm looking at it as going from $40 to $73 in the time I've had it. It's the "turning up the heat" that BobR mentioned. I've gone along with small increases everytime, but now the water is starting to get a little hot in the pot for what they provide.  =)
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Lennyjoe on March 16, 2023, 03:14:49 PM
We’ve tried Directv Stream, Hulu and YouTube TV and so far have stuck with YouTube TV.  Yea it’s going up a few bucks but I like listening to news, golf and watching other sports and tv shows while working at home. 

Direct Tv went way up after the trial period and Hulu just didn’t function well for me. 
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 16, 2023, 04:03:25 PM
I'm not looking at it as $8. I'm looking at it as going from $40 to $73 in the time I've had it.

Ah, gotcha. I started at $65 so haven't been riding the Price Increase Express quite so long.

Brad
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: charby on March 16, 2023, 04:37:15 PM
Youtube TV is full of commercials.

Commercials don't pay all the bills either.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: K Frame on March 16, 2023, 05:29:48 PM
When DirecTV was part of AT&T, employees could get a full-ride for something like $10 a month plus extra for some channels like HBO

When AT&T spun off DTV into a separate company a couple of years ago that deal went away, but employees still got greatly reduced rates.

January this year the AT&T company slack channel started blowing up with people who had kept DTV and were now being hit with 200-300% rate increases with virtually no warning other than "Hey, guess what! You're bill's going up this month to SCREW YOU levels!"

I got to talking with a number of coworkers in my seating area, all of whom were dumping DTV and going with Utoob, Hulu, and other content providers.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: dogmush on March 16, 2023, 08:32:45 PM
I hate to be the curmudgeon here, since I normally pick on them, but guys, just cancel it. Go outside.  Hike, go to the range. Hell two or three months @$73 will get you a nice pistol or carbine class. Buy a kayak. Ski. Do something else.

The folks that make TV hate you, and what you care about.

Sports is full of criminals and pedos, yes even down to the college level. (Cough penn state cough)

Hollywood is full of criminals and pedos.

Netflix is full of pedos.

YouTube corporate is full of commie, criminals, groomers and pedos. At least you can pick your creators and have some say there.

I'm certainly not perfect myself, but if you are watching more than 5 or 6 hours of "produced" programming a week, you are doing yourself wrong.  Stop participating in pop culture that hates, mocks, and tries to erase us. At a minimum stop paying $100/month to participate  in it.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Nick1911 on March 17, 2023, 01:16:25 AM
Out of curiosity, what is the normal amount people spend on streaming services after cutting cable?

That's a good question.  As much as people share accounts and have services via bundles, I could see it being difficult to answer.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: K Frame on March 17, 2023, 07:25:02 AM
I hate to be the curmudgeon here, since I normally pick on them, but guys, just cancel it. Go outside.  Hike, go to the range. Hell two or three months @$73 will get you a nice pistol or carbine class. Buy a kayak. Ski. Do something else.

The folks that make TV hate you, and what you care about.

Sports is full of criminals and pedos, yes even down to the college level. (Cough penn state cough)

Hollywood is full of criminals and pedos.

Netflix is full of pedos.

YouTube corporate is full of commie, criminals, groomers and pedos. At least you can pick your creators and have some say there.

I'm certainly not perfect myself, but if you are watching more than 5 or 6 hours of "produced" programming a week, you are doing yourself wrong.  Stop participating in pop culture that hates, mocks, and tries to erase us. At a minimum stop paying $100/month to participate  in it.


Go hug a bunny, you liberal-loving America-hating commie, you.

:rofl:
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: WLJ on March 17, 2023, 11:09:07 AM
I hate to be the curmudgeon here, since I normally pick on them, but guys, just cancel it. Go outside.  Hike, go to the range. Hell two or three months @$73 will get you a nice pistol or carbine class. Buy a kayak. Ski. Do something else.

The folks that make TV hate you, and what you care about.

Sports is full of criminals and pedos, yes even down to the college level. (Cough penn state cough)

Hollywood is full of criminals and pedos.

Netflix is full of pedos.

YouTube corporate is full of commie, criminals, groomers and pedos. At least you can pick your creators and have some say there.

I'm certainly not perfect myself, but if you are watching more than 5 or 6 hours of "produced" programming a week, you are doing yourself wrong.  Stop participating in pop culture that hates, mocks, and tries to erase us. At a minimum stop paying $100/month to participate  in it.

But there are people out there

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Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: MechAg94 on March 17, 2023, 02:55:18 PM
That's a good question.  As much as people share accounts and have services via bundles, I could see it being difficult to answer.
Most people I know will have 2 maybe 3 streaming services going at a time depending on how much they watch.  Since it is easy to activate and pause subscriptions, there is little reason to keep them going.  I guess it depends on who in the household is watching. 

Personally, outside Texas A&M football, I am not watching any regular TV.  I can watch the Houston news on my antenna for free if I want to (I can't stand 8 minute commercial breaks). 
Most of my screen time is listening to youtube and Rumble channels that I follow.  Lately, there is more of that content to watch/listen to than I have time for. 
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Ben on March 17, 2023, 03:01:12 PM
Most people I know will have 2 maybe 3 streaming services going at a time depending on how much they watch.  Since it is easy to activate and pause subscriptions, there is little reason to keep them going.  I guess it depends on who in the household is watching. 

That is key nowadays. I have to get a lot better about turning stuff off and on. I have times where I'll easily go a couple of months without seeing anything I like on Netflix, but I'm still paying for, instead of pausing the service.

I bet with Netflix as an example, I could just pay for it for four months total, with two two month periods spaced out within the year and catch anything I would like before they remove it. Or even outside of that, a $4 rental on Amazon for a single movie on occasion is still cheaper than a month of Netflix.
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Ben on March 17, 2023, 09:06:11 PM
I see that Sling Blue with the news add-on runs $46/mo. I might switch from youtube to that for now. I am surprised that Fox doesn't have their own service where they stream Fox Business. Their Fox Nation service doesn't have their news programs. 
Title: Re: Youtube TV Price Increase
Post by: Calumus on March 18, 2023, 11:13:58 AM
One upside of YouTube TV is that you get 5 or 6 separate accounts, and as of right now they’re not IP address locked. You can split a subscription with multiple people if you want. My friend that lives next door also has a house in PA. We made a deal, he canceled his Internet service in Jersey and uses my wifi when he’s here. He gave me one of his YouTube accounts. Saves us both about $70 a month.