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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: K Frame on March 27, 2023, 08:26:30 AM
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with the homeless, trash, feces, and drug paraphernalia, what does San Francisco worry about?
A bench and a Little Free Library.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/san-francisco-hits-family-1402-fee-built-free-library-neighbors-report
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/san-francisco-fights-urban-disorder-little-free-library-42e9b80a
The WSJ always has read restrictions for me, but they at least show a picture of the "free library". Just a little box with a handful of books. The bench isn't pictured as far as I can tell. Definitely not an eye sore and doesn't seem to be in the way of anything.
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It has been a while, but I seem to recall that kind of a little neighborhood "library" was a pretty popular and harmless fad just to make neighborhoods more friendly.
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We have a Little Free Library in my community.
I've gotten a couple of books out of it and put a bunch of books in it.
It's really popular with the kids in the community.
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Last fall we went for a walk while visiting my wife’s brother. On a walking path around a marsh in the middle of nowhere was a little free library. I snagged a great book about shackleton’s Antarctic adventure, Endurance was the name of the ship and the book.
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The story is missing the name of the bureaucrat who wrote the people up with a violation.
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The story is missing the name of the bureaucrat who wrote the people up with a violation.
And that person's boss along with the entire chain of leadership up to the first elected official.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/san-francisco-fights-urban-disorder-little-free-library-42e9b80a
The WSJ always has read restrictions for me, but they at least show a picture of the "free library". Just a little box with a handful of books. The bench isn't pictured as far as I can tell. Definitely not an eye sore and doesn't seem to be in the way of anything.
The box was taking up space on the sidewalk a homeless junkie could be shooting up drugs and pooping in.
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More news out of SF
Checkout's closed: Whole Foods FLAGSHIP San Francisco store closes after just one year because of rampant drug use in restrooms, violence towards staff - and theft of ALL 250 shopping baskets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11959697/Whole-Foods-flagship-San-Francisco-store-closes-just-one-year-safety-concerns.html
We're outta here!
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Checkout's closed: Whole Foods FLAGSHIP San Francisco store closes after just one year because of rampant drug use in restrooms, violence towards staff - and theft of ALL 250 shopping baskets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11959697/Whole-Foods-flagship-San-Francisco-store-closes-just-one-year-safety-concerns.html
From the link:
The Democrat later announced in a series of tweets on Monday that he would introduce a ballot measure next year to fully staff the city's police department within five years.
Wow! So this mental giant will introduce a ballot measure (which might not pass) NEXT YEAR that would [hope to] fully staff the city's police department within five years. So that's SIX YEARS until the PD is fully staffed -- and that's IF the ballot measure gets passed. Things are going to get a lot worse within those six years.
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^^^But where will SF get the money if they are paying out the reparations?
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Carmignani has since appealed to Breed to enact policy changes to make the city safer.
Rather than heed those calls, she defended the city on Saturday and even appeared to suggest that the incidents were not examples of senseless crime.
That makes me feel better ;/
She also claimed social media - where many have complained about the state of the city - was exacerbating the problem.
'It is really heightened events like this as well as people who are jumping to conclusions about what they think is happening.'
'People will be surprised when the facts come out': San Francisco Mayor London Breed tells residents not to 'jump to conclusions' about murder of Cash App founder Bob Lee and attack on ex fire commissioner
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11960561/San-Francisco-Mayor-says-people-shouldnt-jump-conclusions-Cash-App-boss-Bob-Lees-murder.html
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It ain't just SF.
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That's endemic to every large city in the US. It's demonstrative of Terry's Rule of Group Intelligence.
TRGI:
Group intelligence is inversely proportional to the number of minds in the group.
IG = f ( 1 / NGroup)
The actual function is indeterminate because intelligence scales (at present) do not have an actual zero point and are not "rational" scales in the sense that ratios are valid. IOW, an IQ of 40 is not necessarily "twice" as intelligent as an IQ of 20.
Terry, 230RN
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That's endemic to every large city in the US. It's demonstrative of Terry's Rule of Group Intelligence.
TRGI:
Group intelligence is inversely proportional to the number of minds in the group.
IG = f ( 1 / NGroup)
The actual function is indeterminate because intelligence scales (at present) do not have an actual zero point.
You KNOW I'm stealing THIS!
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I added a bit about rational scales, so quote that, too, if you like.
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Be sure to vote democrat, they have all the solutions
EXCLUSIVE: Shocking images show the TWO-MILE long vehicle encampment - made up of people living in RVs, trucks and trailers - along Highway 101 north of San Francisco as low income people are pushed out of the housing market
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12050937/Shocking-images-TWO-MILE-long-encampment-people-living-RVs-trucks-trailers.html
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I wonder how long before groups of people in such enclaves begin stopping cars and demanding a "toll"?
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I wonder how long before groups of people in such enclaves begin stopping cars and demanding a "toll"?
That is sort of what is happening:
Residents of the surrounding area are now coming together to try to help bring the encampment to an end by helping people find services they need.
Every month they are given free groceries, assistance with their housing case management, medical assistance and much more.
There will be a push for the services to be expanded after state funding was awarded to Novato, Sausalito and San Rafael and to Marin County for unincorporated areas like Binford Road.
Each city, and Marin County, received $500,000 to address their encampment issues – with the county bringing in $1million in resources to help each of the regions.
I am curious how many of those people were living there and got evicted or couldn't afford rent? and how many just found that a convenient place to stop?
I am sure all the residents and the local officials are doing everything they can to prevent anyone from actually building more housing in the area and possibly spoiling their view. That might reduce their home values or reduce the rent they charge on the properties they already own.
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A shop lifter every 10 minutes
On target to close? Shoplifters at San Francisco Target strike every 10 MINUTES: Helpless staff watch thieves stuff bags with food, lipsticks and nail polish as soft-on-crime city suffers retail exodus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12072675/San-Francisco-Target-store-shoplifted-10-MINUTES-worker-says.html
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A shop lifter every 10 minutes
On target to close? Shoplifters at San Francisco Target strike every 10 MINUTES: Helpless staff watch thieves stuff bags with food, lipsticks and nail polish as soft-on-crime city suffers retail exodus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12072675/San-Francisco-Target-store-shoplifted-10-MINUTES-worker-says.html
Even with the merchandise locked up?
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You really can't have normal commerce without basic rules that are enforced. Even the big corporations will only tolerate it for a while. Since they can't stop the thieves, all they can do is close up shop and go elsewhere.
I was wondering if some of those stores would go to online order only or force the customers to wait at the front while a worker goes and gets their items. To do that, they would need to physically block anyone from entering the merchandise area.
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Isn't that how it always used to be? You go ask the storekeeper for what you want, haggle, get discriminated against, get the worst goods in the pile/whatever they deem worthy to give you, etc. etc.
I think it was Piggly Wiggly that pioneered the idea of choosing your own merchandise from the shelves. Maybe that was just a golden era, and I will have to tell my grandchildren about how we used to just browse merchandise left unlocked on the shelves and nobody stole it because most people thought stealing was wrong and the rest of them were afraid of penalties.
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I made the point in another thread that all of the stores that are fleeing these areas because of the rampant crime are creating shopping waste lands.
In a few years we're going to start hearing about how these heartless, racist corporations are making it impossible for the poor inner city people (yeah, as if there are actually poor people in San Francisco) to survive and aren't they horrible.
So, the stores start getting government incentives to move back in, which creates a cycle of recovery in growth, and once again the racist corporations are at fault, this time for making it impossible for the poor folk to afford their gentrifying areas.
That cycle happened after the crime and violence of the late 1960s and early 1970s. It happened to a degree, again, in Washington, DC, along the Georgia Avenue Corridor after the Cinco de Mayo riots in 1992.
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Here in STL, we have a bunch of folks from Iraq or Afghanistan who open neighborhood stop'n'rob groceries... They charge more than the big groceries, who aren't there anymore.
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I'd say that's pretty much the same in any city. The corporations move out because they can't take the crime load and small bodega-like stores open to fill the vacuum.
The concept of service deserts in major urban areas crops up for all kinds of services -- health, food, and financial.
Back in the mid- to late-1990s local politicians started touting one of the service deserts in Washington, DC, as a financial black hole. The only financial services available to many residents were check cashing stores, which were very expensive. So, the politicos started spouting all of the standard tropes about how the big financial corps were keeping those in the area in poverty blah blah blah.
Finally they managed to find a company (for some reason I'm thinking it was either Bank of America, but I may be wrong about that, it's been 30 years) to open a local branch to serve the residents of the service desert.
Two things happened... despite lots of publicity, relatively few residents opened accounts with the bank because many of them were recent immigrants who were either in the country illegally, and thus couldn't jump through all of the hoops, or they didn't trust banks because of experiences in their home countries.
The other thing that happened?
The spiffy new branch was hit with something like 4 armed robberies in the first 6 months it was open.
It wasn't open much longer after that.
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Here in STL, we have a bunch of folks from Iraq or Afghanistan who open neighborhood stop'n'rob groceries... They charge more than the big groceries, who aren't there anymore.
Had a job at a convenient store in the early 80s that was in a nice neighborhood. In talking to reps one of our sister stores in a not so nice neighborhood had a little shoplifting problem as in they estimated 1 in 5, one even said 1 in 3, items leaving the store were not paid for and was going to be closed. Drive by that spot every once in awhile and stores come and go where it was located. Rather than actually do something about the crime the city figures it's cheaper and better PR to throw money at someone to open a store there and make a big production about how they're helping neighborhood and then later cry how the evil racist the company is bringing down the neighborhood by closing. No one lasts long there for a reason. Think they ran out of companies or they wised up because it's been empty for awhile now while the city whines about the food desert.
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CNN is here to tell us the REAL reason stores are closing
"A glut of stores "
" Remote work "
" Online shopping "
" ‘Downtown is for People’ "
Next article they'll be screeching about the racist food/retail deserts.
The real reasons stores such as Walmart and Starbucks are closing in big cities
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/12/business/stores-closing-cities-downtown-retail/index.html
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"Downtown is for people."
Not if every store and restaurant has shut its doors because of out of control criminal activity. There would soon be no reason to go downtown.
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"Downtown is for people" .... who want to shop, work, and eat, but who won't go into dangerous areas to do so.
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"Downtown is for people."
Not if every store and restaurant has shut its doors because of out of control criminal activity. There would soon be no reason to go downtown.
There already is no reason to go downtown -- unless you have to appear in court, and for many matters even that can be done remotely.
I don't know if the .gov planned it, but the COVID-19 *expletive deleted*it-down put the final nail in the coffin of urban centers. The pandemic is over, and my state's government can't get workers to come back to work. Everyone got used to working remotely from home, and they don't want to come back. A friend of mine is a senior IT manager for a major hospital chain in this area. He used to commute to an office about a half hour south from us. He now works entirely from home, and many of his staff don't even life in this state. He hasn't been to his office for several years -- I don't know if the hospital even leases space in that building anymore.
The trend in urban real estate is to convert former mid-rise and high-rise office buildings to apartments. I'm watching -- but if people no longer need to be in the city to work, why would they want to live in the city? It would be convenient if your job was a block or two away, but if you can work from hours away -- why even consider living in a glass and steel box 200 feet in the air?
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There already is no reason to go downtown -- unless you have to appear in court, and for many matters even that can be done remotely.
I don't know if the .gov planned it, but the COVID-19 *expletive deleted*it-down put the final nail in the coffin of urban centers. The pandemic is over, and my state's government can't get workers to come back to work. Everyone got used to working remotely from home, and they don't want to come back. A friend of mine is a senior IT manager for a major hospital chain in this area. He used to commute to an office about a half hour south from us. He now works entirely from home, and many of his staff don't even life in this state. He hasn't been to his office for several years -- I don't know if the hospital even leases space in that building anymore.
The trend in urban real estate is to convert former mid-rise and high-rise office buildings to apartments. I'm watching -- but if people no longer need to be in the city to work, why would they want to live in the city? It would be convenient if your job was a block or two away, but if you can work from hours away -- why even consider living in a glass and steel box 200 feet in the air?
You are exactly right, and what this really amounts to is a failure of central economic planning: downtowns were never fiscally sound it the first place, so they fall like cards when the economy shifts. Real, organically grown markets are anti-fragile and adapt. Fake, puppetmastered, well-laid plans always end in disaster.
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I had to double check to make sure this wasn't real.....yet
San Francisco Announces Plan To Release Monkeys Onto The Streets To Fling Away All The Poo
https://babylonbee.com/news/san-francisco-announces-plan-to-release-monkeys-onto-the-streets-to-fling-away-all-the-poo
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I saw that earlier. Those guys are great. :laugh:
At publishing time, the monkeys had broken several windows with poo flinging, but fortunately, the buildings were all abandoned storefronts.
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More fun in SF
Children wielding baseball bats are reportedly attacking and robbing helpless mothers and nannies in a wealthy San Francisco neighborhood known for its young families.
Noe Valley, which is also known locally as "stroller alley" because of the many families with young children who live there, experienced 11 phone robberies last week, which authorities believe are linked to a gang of youths who have also lately been assaulting women with bats while they pick up their kids from school, according to the Telegraph.
Bat-wielding kids attack San Francisco moms, nannies outside school in wealthy neighborhood
https://www.foxnews.com/us/bat-wielding-kids-attack-san-francisco-moms-nannies-outside-school-wealthy-neighborhood
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. . .
The trend in urban real estate is to convert former mid-rise and high-rise office buildings to apartments. I'm watching -- but if people no longer need to be in the city to work, why would they want to live in the city? It would be convenient if your job was a block or two away, but if you can work from hours away -- why even consider living in a glass and steel box 200 feet in the air?
Maybe it's the view?
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More news from the Democrat paradise on left coast
San Francisco Walgreens NOW resorts to CHAINING their freezers to stop shoplifters in crime-riddled city swiping pizza and ice cream 20 times a day - as another branch completely boards up its windows
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12309415/San-Francisco-Walgreens-resorts-CHAINING-refrigerator-section-overnight-stop-shoplifters-swiping-pizza-ice-cream-20-times-day.html
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More fun in SF
Bat-wielding kids attack San Francisco moms, nannies outside school in wealthy neighborhood
https://www.foxnews.com/us/bat-wielding-kids-attack-san-francisco-moms-nannies-outside-school-wealthy-neighborhood
That reminds me of a scene in Robocop.
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More news from the Democrat paradise on left coast
San Francisco Walgreens NOW resorts to CHAINING their freezers to stop shoplifters in crime-riddled city swiping pizza and ice cream 20 times a day - as another branch completely boards up its windows
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12309415/San-Francisco-Walgreens-resorts-CHAINING-refrigerator-section-overnight-stop-shoplifters-swiping-pizza-ice-cream-20-times-day.html
I am surprised they don't just close up the store except for a front area and have people order and pick up at a slot. Let the employees pick the items and bring them up. I can't see any other way to make it work.
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I am surprised they don't just close up the store except for a front area and have people order and pick up at a slot. Let the employees pick the items and bring them up. I can't see any other way to make it work.
Anybody remember the retail chain Best (not Best Buy)? That's exactly how they did it as a "brick and mortar catalog store". We might be going back to the '80s model in big blue cities.
Of course then the criminals will just head out to the "gun free zone" parking lot and mug everybody for their stuff as they leave the store.
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^^^ Didn't Service Merchandise have the same business model?
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^^^ Didn't Service Merchandise have the same business model?
That's what I remember about them.
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Don't come in to work, it's too dangerous
Officials at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services advised hundreds of employees in San Francisco to work remotely for the foreseeable future due to public safety concerns outside the Nancy Pelosi Federal Building on Seventh Street. https://t.co/LUTS4FrwXr
— San Francisco Chronicle (@sfchronicle) August 12, 2023
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2023/08/18/federal-employees-told-to-work-remotely-in-san-francisco-due-to-crime-n2386335
Welcome to dem paradise
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San Francisco Now So Bad That Passing Ruffians Say 'Ni' At Will To Old Ladies And Even Those Who Arrange And Sell Shrubberies Are Under Considerable Economic Stress
https://babylonbee.com/news/san-francisco-now-so-bad-that-passing-ruffians-say-ni-at-will-to-old-ladies-and-even-those-who-arrange-and-sell-shrubberies-are-under-considerable-economic-stress
:rofl:
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Color me shocked
Democratic San Francisco Mayor London Breed on Tuesday unveiled a plan to require anyone receiving welfare to comply with mandatory drug testing and treatment programs amid growing pressure to get ahold of the city’s homeless and fentanyl crises – the same day a new primary challenger in next year's election entered the race.
Announcing the proposal with Supervisor Matt Dorsey, a recovering addict and former spokesperson for the police department, Breed said the new initiative would require individuals with substance use disorders who want to access county-funded cash assistance to be enrolled in treatment and services.
Remember when the Rs proposed something along these lines nation wide awhile back and the Ds started foaming at the mouth over it.
Of course the devil is in the details and they'll probably make sure there's plenty of loopholes
Democrat San Francisco mayor announces plan to require drug testing, treatment to receive homeless services
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrat-san-francisco-mayor-announces-plan-require-drug-testing-treatment-receive-homeless-services
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$900 a/month for a 4ft pod in a communal house.
But that's okay, the tax payers will be footing the bill.
California housing crisis: Tiny 4ft pods in San Francisco are rented for $900 per month - but resident claims you get 'cool, hacker' neighbors and the communal lounges 'are actually nice'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12575629/California-housing-crisis-Tiny-4ft-pods-rented-900-month.html
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And just like that POOF!
REPORT: The San Francisco homeless population has "miraculously" gone missing as President Biden & Chinese President Xi Jinping are set to meet in the liberal city.
Remarkable!
The typical drug addicts & homeless who wander the city like zombies have disappeared as 20,000… pic.twitter.com/2iDpl4FHCG
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 11, 2023
Where did they go?
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 11, 2023
Reportedly they've herded them to less visible areas for the visit
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2023/11/11/where-did-they-go-san-francisco-homeless-gone-streets-cleaned-ahead-of-biden-visit-to-apec-summit-n2389666
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Not hiding why they did it.
Now the question is will it revert back to business as usual afterwards?
RNC Research
@RNCResearch
After San Francisco was magically cleaned up ahead of Xi Jinping's visit, Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom says:
"I know folks say, 'Oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all these fancy leaders are coming into town.' That's true because it's true."
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1724087910809383376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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And I just noticed the guy wearing the hardhat to the left of Newsom. I could swear I've seen him in other Newsom videos before. Prop guy?
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Newsom Deploys Giant Can Of Febreze Over San Francisco To Mask Poo Smell
https://babylonbee.com/news/to-mask-poop-smell-newsom-sprays-san-francisco-with-giant-can-of-febreze
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Newsom Assures Homeless They Can Resume Pooping On Sidewalks Once His Boss Leaves
https://babylonbee.com/news/newsom-assures-homeless-they-can-resume-pooping-on-streets-once-his-boss-leaves
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I think Gavin has shipped some of his homeless crazies to Northern Virginia.
This morning at the Wawa getting my coffee one of them was yelling something about coats.
Then, as I walked out, she was outside and was yelling at the black guy who walked out in front of me (and who never said word one) about how her father used to beat her until she was 14 and domestic violence doesn't know color.
Another one has been hanging out in front of the Wawa on the benches by the bus stop and has written some sort of sign and tied it to the light pole. Saturday when I went past she was pointing at the sign and screeching about how it's the law and we're all violating the law.
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San Francisco Mayor Reminds Everyone To Get Their Christmas Shoplifting Done Early
https://babylonbee.com/news/san-francisco-mayor-reminds-everyone-to-get-their-christmas-shoplifting-done-early
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Remember that article saying that the problem with San Fran was that it's been controlled by republicans for too long?
Well to continue the theme that it's all republican's fault....
California Gov. Gavin Newsom shifts blame on Republican critics for amplifying homeless crisis plaguing San Francisco and claims 'they have to focus on our failures for them to be right' - despite the city facing an exodus over crime
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12866143/gavin-newsom-san-francisco-homeless-crisis-republicans.html
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Ruled self defense
A San Francisco jury on Friday found a homeless man not guilty after being accused of using a metal pipe to beat a San Francisco's former fire commissioner who suffered a broken jaw, fractured skull that required 51 stitches and a traumatic brain injury.
Chilling footage showed Doty grabbing the crowbar out of the trash and taking practice swings moments before the attack.
Horrifying footage shows Doty backing Carmignani against the wall while waving the crowbar as he tries to defend himself.
Walking away and then going to a pile of trash and finding a crowbar then coming back, a good distance mind you, and beating the crap out of someone with the crowbar in revenge is not self defense!
Welcome to San Fran
San Francisco vagrant, 25, is found not guilty of viciously bashing ex-fire commissioner, 54, in the head with a metal crowbar after he was pepper sprayed for lurking in front of the victim's mom's home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12895755/San-Francisco-vagrant-25-not-guilty-viciously-bashing-ex-fire-commissioner-54-head-metal-crowbar-pepper-sprayed-lurking-victims-moms-home.html
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Ruled self defense
Walking away and then going to a pile of trash and finding a crowbar then coming back, a good distance mind you, and beating the crap out of someone with the crowbar in revenge is not self defense!
Welcome to San Fran
The difference between the red and the blue is really becoming similar to the difference between countries.
Certainly there may be much more to the story, but based on what I read in several news reports, my guess is the SanFran cops did zilch to remove the aggressor from in front of the mother's home. The son may not have been on the legal side using bear spray (again, depending on more info), but it's certain that the bum was the aggressor when taking the time to find a deadly weapon and returning with it.
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If who had the bear spray and who had the crowbar was reversed I can say with near certainty it would not have been even remotely considered self defense.