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Title: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 12:38:06 PM
Here we go again

Shooter was reportedly engaged by police and is reported dead.
Mixed reports on casualties so far

Covenant School shooting updates: Suspected shooter dead, 'multiple patients' after Nashville attack
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/03/27/covenant-school-shooting-nashville-live-updates/11549814002/

At least four dead after shooter opens fire at Nashville Christian school: Suspect opened fire before being shot dead by cops
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11907711/Multiple-injured-private-Nashville-Christian-school.html

Nashville school shooting: Multiple people injured, shooter dead
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nashville-school-shooting-multiple-people-injured-shooter-dead
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 12:40:42 PM
Already seeing comments blaming NRA, GOP, MAGA, and "Right Wingers"
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HeroHog on March 27, 2023, 01:03:19 PM
Amazing how this stuff ramps up around election time.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 01:25:08 PM
Three children, four adults dead after Nashville private school mass shooting
https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-middle-tennessee-patients-reported-active-aggressor-at-nashville-elementary-school-local-news
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 01:25:29 PM
Amazing how this stuff ramps up around election time.

What election?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 27, 2023, 02:38:32 PM
Shooter was a 28 year old female.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nashville-school-shooting-6-killed-including-3-students-shooter-dead

Brad
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MillCreek on March 27, 2023, 02:50:41 PM
My wife the retired elementary school teacher, wonders if the shooter is a current or former staff member of the school.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 27, 2023, 02:57:11 PM
Tinfoil Ben found it interesting that this Chicago woman just happened to be there to make a statement:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/27/ghoulish-gun-control-activist-who-hijacked-nashville-pd-presser-impresses-cnn-but-raises-red-flags/

I'm really hoping that the "assault type rifles" don't have braces.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on March 27, 2023, 03:40:25 PM
Tinfoil Ben found it interesting that this Chicago woman just happened to be there to make a statement:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/27/ghoulish-gun-control-activist-who-hijacked-nashville-pd-presser-impresses-cnn-but-raises-red-flags/

I'm really hoping that the "assault type rifles" don't have braces.
That is a bit suspect.  As one of the commenters at the link mentioned, how many time has she tried to speak out after the hundreds of shootings in Chicago? 
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HankB on March 27, 2023, 03:45:56 PM
And of course Brandon already called for more gun control . . . almost as if he had the speech already written . . .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-calls-for-congress-to-pass-assault-weapons-ban-after-nashville-school-shooting/ar-AA198G2p
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on March 27, 2023, 04:04:53 PM
My wife the retired elementary school teacher, wonders if the shooter is a current or former staff member of the school.

The report I read said she was 28 years old and a former student of the school.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: sumpnz on March 27, 2023, 04:09:58 PM
The report I read said she was 28 years old and a former student of the school.

That “identifies” as female.  Wonder if it was a dude with boobs that sought “revenge” for its own, or perceived on behalf of others lack/denial of “affirmative care” from the school.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on March 27, 2023, 04:13:16 PM
That “identifies” as female.  Wonder if it was a dude with boobs that sought “revenge” for its own, or perceived on behalf of others lack/denial of “affirmative care” from the school.

Or perhaps a real female that was mistreated when she attended the school.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: BobR on March 27, 2023, 04:33:01 PM
And of course Brandon already called for more gun control . . . almost as if he had the speech already written . . .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-calls-for-congress-to-pass-assault-weapons-ban-after-nashville-school-shooting/ar-AA198G2p

Yep almost. All they needed was the name of the City to plug in there.

bob
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HankB on March 27, 2023, 04:35:50 PM
Yep almost. All they needed was the name of the City to plug in there.

bob
Unless they already had that . . .  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: sumpnz on March 27, 2023, 04:39:42 PM
Or perhaps a real female that was mistreated when she attended the school.

Nope.  Been confirmed the shooter was Samantha (previously Samuel) Hyde.

Possible hoax on the identity.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HeroHog on March 27, 2023, 04:40:03 PM
What election?

President, next year. Stuff always seems to ratchet up as the presidential election approaches.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 27, 2023, 04:45:23 PM
President, next year. Stuff always seems to ratchet up as the presidential election approaches.

I don't think we can connect this to an election that's a year-and-a-half out.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on March 27, 2023, 04:45:48 PM
I saw a comment that Tennessee had a measure due to be considered in their state Senate to lower the concealed carry age to 18.  Heard that vote/debate is delayed.

That wouldn't affect the shooter as they were older.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 05:10:06 PM
Nope.  Been confirmed the shooter was Samantha (previously Samuel) Hyde.

Possible hoax on the identity.

If you google the name you'll find what appears to be at first glance a photoshopped picture of a trans holding a AK-47 variant

Fake IMHO

Shooter was a 28 year old female.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nashville-school-shooting-6-killed-including-3-students-shooter-dead

Brad

Seen that and teen both being reported
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 05:36:09 PM
Quote
The suspect in a Nashville school shooting on Monday had drawn a detailed map of the school, including potential entry points, and done surveillance before killing three students and three adults in the latest in a series of mass shootings in a country growing increasingly unnerved by bloodshed in schools.

The suspect, who was killed by police, is believed to be a former student at The Covenant School in Nashville, where the shooting took place.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/suspect-dead-after-shooting-nashville-private-school-98153489
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on March 27, 2023, 05:49:20 PM
Nope.  Been confirmed the shooter was Samantha (previously Samuel) Hyde.

Possible hoax on the identity.

Seems like there is some confusion.  Fox News is identifying the shooter as Audrey Elizabeth Hale.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 05:51:31 PM
That “identifies” as female. 

Also hearing the opposite, a woman who ided as a man. It's a confused mess, which is fitting in a way.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 05:57:57 PM
CNN reporting two AR "style" weapons and a hand gun.


Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 27, 2023, 06:04:46 PM
Shooter was a 28 year old female.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nashville-school-shooting-6-killed-including-3-students-shooter-dead

Brad

Correction: The shooter was a 28-year old "transgender woman" -- which translates to "it was a guy who pretends to be a woman."

And it was a former student at the school, so there's probably going to be quite a bit to unpack with regard to establishing a motive.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: JTHunter on March 27, 2023, 06:06:13 PM
Local TV news just reported that the shooter was a "trans-female", 28, with 2 "assault rifles" and a handgun, and possibly a former student of this private school.

If it IS a "trans", wouldn't this be a further sign of a "mental aberration"?
  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 06:06:50 PM
Already seeing the right's "genocide" on trans people being blamed.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: BobR on March 27, 2023, 06:07:20 PM
So she was a he. Well at least that keeps alive the narrative that women don't do mass shootings, or does it?

bob
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Boomhauer on March 27, 2023, 06:16:22 PM
If it’s a tranny expect the story to be squashed ASAP
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: BobR on March 27, 2023, 06:22:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8exFOp0.png)

At least now its pronouns are was/were

bob
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 27, 2023, 06:27:34 PM
Already seeing the right's "genocide" on trans people being blamed.

It will be that and the Christian fascists or whatever label is being used now. Even though the tranny shot the Christians.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 06:32:39 PM
Being reported more now it's a she who feels she is a he.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 06:39:16 PM
Being reported a manifesto has been found
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 06:40:55 PM
Think someone got an early start?

I posted this in the World Gone Mad thread a few days ago.

 Mark your calendars for the Trans Day of Vengeance (and don’t forget your mask!)
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/22/mark-your-calendars-for-the-trans-day-of-vengeance-and-dont-forget-your-mask/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 27, 2023, 06:46:21 PM
Think someone got an early start?

I posted this in the World Gone Mad thread a few days ago.

 Mark your calendars for the Trans Day of Vengeance (and don’t forget your mask!)
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/22/mark-your-calendars-for-the-trans-day-of-vengeance-and-dont-forget-your-mask/

I dunno, maybe it's time to break out the Hawaiian shirts and prep up if they want to start the boogaloo.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/27/prof-its-more-admirable-to-kill-a-racist-homophobic-transphobic-speaker-than-shout-them-down/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MillCreek on March 27, 2023, 07:07:44 PM
I wonder if there was bullying while Mr. Hale was attending school there, and if this will figure prominently in the manifesto.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 07:12:54 PM
I'm not the only one wondering if there's a connection

Quote
    The shooting of a Christian school by a transgender comes the same week that activists scheduled a "Trans Day of Vengeance," with the group also raising money for firearms training.https://t.co/3rSz7ZMPKB

    — Luke Rosiak (@lukerosiak) March 27, 2023

Didn't know about  "Transgender Week of Visibility" though

Quote
    As we start Transgender Week of Visibility — a week to uplift our trans siblings — red states continue to all but ban trans people from existing.

    Latest: On Friday, Idaho enacted a law banning trans kids from using restrooms per their gender.

    The war on trans people continues. pic.twitter.com/cDz0vWnbqn

    — Senator Scott Wiener (@Scott_Wiener) March 27, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/27/timing-california-sen-scott-wiener-kicks-off-transgender-week-of-visibility/

More dots to connect  [tinfoil]

Sure this will get buried deep in the MSM
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 07:25:52 PM
Expected

ABC’s Terry Moran links shooting to Tennessee’s law banning ‘medical care’ for trans minors
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/27/abcs-terry-moran-links-shooting-to-tennessees-law-banning-medical-care-for-trans-minors/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 07:49:37 PM
 NBC News contributor throws it out there that Nashville is home to anti-trans hub The Daily Wire
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/27/nbc-news-contributor-throws-it-out-there-that-nashville-is-home-to-anti-trans-hub-the-daily-wire/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 09:32:43 PM
Another school was targeted but it had too much security so he/she/whatever choose one with out any.

Quote
'We have a manifesto, we have some writings. We have a map drawn out of how this was all going to take place,' Nashville Police John Chief Drake said.

Drake said that Hale mentioned another location in her manifesto, but decided that there was too much security to launch an attack.

The small school is run by a church and does not employ a school resource officer.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11909129/PICTURED-Transgender-school-shooter-28-killed-three-nine-year-old-students-three-adults.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 27, 2023, 09:53:55 PM
Killing six people just to prove you're a man...
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 10:06:08 PM
Must be his fault then  :facepalm:

Tennessee congressman who oversees the district where Nashville school shooting happened is seen posing with his family with rifles in 2021 holiday card
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11908439/Tennessee-congressman-faces-backlash-posing-rifle-2021-holiday-card.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: gunsmith on March 27, 2023, 10:10:11 PM
 IT
 is a male, makes me pretty angry the cops identify him as female.
 I told my coworker before the news came out that IT was a fascist antifa transgender.
 I am not surprised it was TN - Daily Wire/Matt Walsh recently ( thru activism ) passed a law against indoctrination and child mutilation in TN.
 
 I am fine with "gender fluid" people, I could care less about how folks get their jollies - But dudes are dudes and wimmin are wimmin .
 This whole forcing little kids to go to drag shows and forcing children to think about gender issues will force the hand of smarter protector people.
Forcing the first responders to call IT a female is going to make a lot of people angry.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2023, 10:18:40 PM
IT
 is a male, makes me pretty angry the cops identify him as female.
 I told my coworker before the news came out that IT was a fascist antifa transgender.
 I am not surprised it was TN - Daily Wire/Matt Walsh recently ( thru activism ) passed a law against indoctrination and child mutilation in TN.
 
 I am fine with "gender fluid" people, I could care less about how folks get their jollies - But dudes are dudes and wimmin are wimmin .
 This whole forcing little kids to go to drag shows and forcing children to think about gender issues will force the hand of smarter protector people.
Forcing the first responders to call IT a female is going to make a lot of people angry.

Shooter was born female, identifies as male
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2023, 01:25:57 AM
So this chick has 2 dead names now, or did she just stick with Audrey?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Lennyjoe on March 28, 2023, 07:10:37 AM
The firearm shouldered looks like a Kel Tec Sub2K does it not?

(https://i.imgur.com/XSxQZJjl.png)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2023, 07:26:37 AM
The firearm shouldered looks like a Kel Tec Sub2K does it not?

[img]https://i.imgur.com/XSxQZJjl.png

Fox News is (I think?) reporting an AR rifle, AR pistol, and handgun.

Quote
Hale was armed with two AR-style weapons, including a rifle and pistol, and a handgun. Two of the weapons may have been purchased legally in the Nashville area, Drake said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nashville-school-shooting-tennessee-rep-burchett-calls-release-trans-shooters-manifesto

They also made some comments on the vest, questioning if it was "tactical" or not, by which I guess they mean armor or not.

Apparently two Nashville cops showed up within 15min and immediately took out the threat. I wonder how that Uvalde SWAT team feels now?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 07:54:51 AM
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/28/12/69186801-11909639-The_second_of_two_rifles_used_in_the_shooting_has_been_pictured_-a-9_1680001318002.jpg)

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/28/12/69186803-11909639-Nashville_police_have_released_photos_of_the_three_weapons_used_-a-8_1680001317909.jpg)

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/28/12/69186807-11909639-A_9_millimeter_pistol_was_also_being_carried_by_the_shooter_duri-a-7_1680001317899.jpg)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 07:57:10 AM
Had to look up the Grunt AR-15. Never heard of them.
And of course it had a brace.

https://www.leadstararms.com/firearms/grunt-ar-15/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HankB on March 28, 2023, 07:59:21 AM
. . . Apparently two Nashville cops showed up within 15min and immediately took out the threat. I wonder how that Uvalde SWAT team feels now?
Good on those Nashville cops who seemed to know what their job is and got it done riki-tik once they arrived.

A pity nobody on scene was armed - like the old story goes, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 08:16:35 AM
Next on the we need to ban list folding rifles
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 08:20:06 AM
USA Today is staying focused on what's most important in all of this.
Proper gendering

Quote
    Police on Monday afternoon said that the shooter was a transgender man. Officials had initially misidentified the gender of the shooter.

    — USA TODAY (@USATODAY) March 27, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/27/usa-today-notes-that-officials-initially-misidentified-the-gender-of-the-covenant-school-shooter/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 08:36:19 AM
Had to look up the Grunt AR-15. Never heard of them.
And of course it had a brace.

https://www.leadstararms.com/firearms/grunt-ar-15/

And right on cue  [tinfoil]

HEADS UP! Vote To Stop ATF Pistol Brace Ban POSTPONED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nP5fsZbp9s
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2023, 08:46:38 AM
And right on cue  [tinfoil]

HEADS UP! Vote To Stop ATF Pistol Brace Ban POSTPONED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nP5fsZbp9s

It's really not that hard to be paranoid and right these days.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on March 28, 2023, 09:08:39 AM
BREAKING: Nashville shooting security cam video released - Legally Armed America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f3jDUy_5ac
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on March 28, 2023, 09:14:38 AM
Related news:

Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2023/03/nc-governor-copper-vetos-guarantee-2nd-amendment-freedom-protections-bill-take-action/#ixzz7xG3u06Jc
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook

NC Governor Copper VETOES ‘Guarantee 2nd Amendment Freedom & Protections Bill’ – Take Action

Quote
North Carolina – On Friday, Governor Roy Cooper vetoed Senate Bill 41 to repeal our Jim Crow-era pistol purchase permit law and to facilitate parishioners in defending churches against violent sociopaths.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on March 28, 2023, 09:46:23 AM
Virginia Switchblade Concealed Carry Ban Repeal Signed by Governor
https://kniferights.org/legislative-update/virginia-switchblade-concealed-carry-ban-repeal-signed-by-governor/

Not all bad news.  Looks like you can conceal carry a switchblade in Virginia now along with other changes.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2023, 10:30:24 AM
Where is the sympathy for this poor shooter?

Also "collective". Like Borg collective?  ;/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsTx5qSXoAEONU9?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 10:31:51 AM
Amazed they released this

Note they call the vest "armored". Appears to be a mag carrier vest to me.

Bodycam footage shows Nashville cops taking down trans shooter Audrey Hale at church school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11911549/Cops-release-six-minutes-bodycam-footage-Nashville-school-shooting.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on March 28, 2023, 10:43:09 AM
Related news:

Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2023/03/nc-governor-copper-vetos-guarantee-2nd-amendment-freedom-protections-bill-take-action/#ixzz7xG3u06Jc
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook

NC Governor Copper VETOES ‘Guarantee 2nd Amendment Freedom & Protections Bill’ – Take Action

This was expected.  Doubtful that the veto will be overridden.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 28, 2023, 10:45:16 AM
Odd how when ever there is a push for stronger gun control somehow, out of the blue, a mass shooting takes place with just the guns proposed to be banned takes place to drive the need home.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2023, 10:45:28 AM
BREAKING: Nashville shooting security cam video released - Legally Armed America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f3jDUy_5ac

She looks like she got her training from Call of Duty. I bet she thought a health bar was following her around and as long as she found health kits, she'd be able to keep going.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2023, 11:28:57 AM
Given the push for more liberally used red flag laws, a thought provoking comment seen on the interwebz:

Quote
Should Transgenderism now be a red flag for gun ownership?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Lennyjoe on March 28, 2023, 11:34:51 AM
Bodycam footage released.  Unlike Uvalde, these guys went in and stopped the shooter.

https://twitter.com/mrgunsngear/status/1640729035939430403?s=61&t=mQDVuAmRQ07l7mzf325mrQ
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: cordex on March 28, 2023, 11:36:31 AM
That was an intense video.  Good transition from selective clearance to moving to the sound of gunfire as soon as they had the audible cue.  Not perfect, but pretty damn good for a hastily thrown together entry team.

Officer Englebert did a particularly good job communicating and moving.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on March 28, 2023, 11:40:17 AM
It will be that and the Christian fascists or whatever label is being used now. Even though the tranny shot the Christians.

probably because of the "abuse" that zhje supposedly suffered at their hands.

Did anyone snag a copy of zit's manifesto?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 12:04:06 PM
probably because of the "abuse" that zhje supposedly suffered at their hands.


Well you know, we are conducing genocide against them by not allowing them complete unfettered control of our children.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on March 28, 2023, 12:05:28 PM
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/28/12/69186801-11909639-The_second_of_two_rifles_used_in_the_shooting_has_been_pictured_-a-9_1680001318002.jpg)

Just like mine, except for the "HELLFIRE" sticker.  <scowl>.  It doesn't look like any mods other than the sling thing were done to it.

I can't make out what La Loca put on the magazine.


Quote
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/28/12/69186807-11909639-A_9_millimeter_pistol_was_also_being_carried_by_the_shooter_duri-a-7_1680001317899.jpg)

Anyone recognize the symbol?

The S&W EZ.  Just a boring nothing special 9mm carry gun.  Except for the market segment it's aimed at. 
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 12:18:27 PM
I actually feel silly for typing this but while we were all worried about a race war we may have a looming gender war with them using the word genocide to describe any push back.
Trans War?
War of the Trans?

We are truly living on Clown World


Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2023, 12:21:01 PM
The Shield EZ. Interesting choice of weapon for a girl who wants us to think she's a man.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 12:25:01 PM
The Shield EZ. Interesting choice of weapon for a girl who wants us to think she's a man.

Don't know if you've even handled one but they are surprisingly easy to rack. Good choice for those who may have trouble racking many semis,
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 12:34:44 PM
New term
Assault style guns
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2023, 12:38:52 PM
Don't if you've even handled one but they are surprisingly easy to rack. Good choice for those who may have trouble racking many semis,

Exactly.


I'm guessing this event will have no effect on plans for a "Trans Day of Vengeance" this weekend. Why should it? They're on a roll.

Let's not even bother to imagine the rolling press freak-out if some loner guy did this just before an "Incel Day of Vengeance."  Or even a "Christian Day of Love and Happiness."
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Boomhauer on March 28, 2023, 12:47:23 PM
Just saw an MSNBC segment and the new words for gun control are “gun safety” and “gun reform”

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HankB on March 28, 2023, 12:53:39 PM
From the body cam footage . . . AN ASSAULT-STYLE WEAPON WAS USED TO PUT DOWN THE KILLER AND SAVE LIVES!!!

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 01:02:28 PM
Just saw an MSNBC segment and the new words for gun control are “gun safety” and “gun reform”

They've been using those for years
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2023, 01:06:59 PM
From the body cam footage . . . AN ASSAULT-STYLE WEAPON WAS USED TO PUT DOWN THE KILLER AND SAVE LIVES!!!


Looks like one of those anti-trans weapons they just legalized in Florida. Terrifying.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 01:15:59 PM
Well you know, we are conducing genocide against them by not allowing them complete unfettered control of our children.

On that note

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    I’ve said it so many times, I wish I didn’t have to, but the bottom line is you’re either here for the kids or the killers.

    — Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) March 27, 2023
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/28/eric-swalwell-hates-to-have-to-say-this-but-youre-either-here-for-the-kids-or-the-killers/

God he is an idiot
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 01:17:22 PM
Speaking of idiots

Quote
    These White Christians Devils went from "thoughts & prayers" to actively calling for revenge and violence as soon as they saw the mass shooter wasn't one of their own for the first time in history.

    Keep that same energy for the daily, white, cis, incel mass shooters.

    — Benjamin Dixon (@BenjaminPDixon) March 28, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/28/antifa-pastor-goes-to-an-all-time-low-with-covenant-school-shooting-take-on-white-christian-devils/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2023, 02:14:11 PM
This is the third trans mass murderer, in addition to the "non-binary" mass murderer from just a little while ago.

Also, plenty of mass murderers have been non-white. I wonder how many could actually be connected to the "incel" phenomenon.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 02:15:34 PM
Note how they felt the need to capitalize MORE

Oh, and now she's trans autistic

EXCLUSIVE: FBI agents are seen removing MORE rifles from trans autistic Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale's home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11911111/FBI-agents-remove-two-additional-rifles-Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hales-home.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 02:20:11 PM
Quote
The shooter who killed six people at a private school in Nashville purchased at least seven guns legally and locally, according to Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake.

Drake said those seven firearms were purchased from five different gun stores in Nashville. Three of the guns were used during the shooting at Covenant School Monday, he said.

Still calling the S2K an AR style rifle

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Police previously said the shooter was armed with a handgun and two AR-style weapons — one rifle and an AR-style pistol.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nashville-tennessee-covenant-school-shooting-3-28-23/index.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 02:22:27 PM
Hmmmm

Quote
Shooter was being treated for an "emotional disorder," police chief says

From CNN's Michael Hayes

The shooter was under care for an "emotional disorder," Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake said Tuesday.

"Law enforcement knew nothing about the treatment" 28-year-old Aubrey Hale was receiving, he added.

Hale's parents "felt that (Hale) should not own weapons" and were under the impression Hale had sold one weapon and "did not own any more," Drake said.

"As it turned out, (Hale) had been hiding several weapons within the house," Drake said.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nashville-tennessee-covenant-school-shooting-3-28-23/index.html

Apparently the treatment wasn't going very well. If I had to guess I would say maybe because they danced around the core problem.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on March 28, 2023, 02:41:04 PM
Shooter was being treated for an "emotional disorder," police chief says

From CNN's Michael Hayes

The shooter was under care for an "emotional disorder," Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake said Tuesday.


What medications was, ummm, she on?  Psych meds are another big common factor with mass shooters.

Quote
Hale's parents "felt that (Hale) should not own weapons" and were under the impression Hale had sold one weapon and "did not own any more," Drake said.

DING DING DING!   red flag laws.

Quote
Drake said those seven firearms were purchased from five different gun stores in Nashville.

So?  I like to spread my purchases out.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2023, 03:12:10 PM
That was an intense video.  Good transition from selective clearance to moving to the sound of gunfire as soon as they had the audible cue.  Not perfect, but pretty damn good for a hastily thrown together entry team.

Officer Englebert did a particularly good job communicating and moving.

Concur. These were definitely not "Whatever it takes to go home safe and the end of the shift" cops. These were real sheepdogs. Props to them.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 05:24:33 PM
Looks like they're trying to blame her parents now.

Quote
Church coordinator Norma, 61, and her husband Ronald, 64, refused to let Hale - who had recently adopted the name Aiden and used he/him pronouns - dress as a man in their home.

But I have a question, one that I don't see them asking.
Why didn't she move out?
She seemed to be fairly successful at her job so why didn't she move out if living with her parents was such a hell it made her want to kill people?
And apparently she was so rejected by her parents they were letting her live there at 28.

EXCLUSIVE: Nashville mass school shooter Audrey Hale was rejected by her Christian parents who 'couldn't accept' she was gay and trans - as cops reveal she also planned to shoot relatives
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11912163/Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hales-parents-accept-gay-trans.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Fly320s on March 28, 2023, 05:31:20 PM
Gay and trans?  How does that work?

If she was gay, she would be attracted to her same sex: women.  If she was a tranny and wanted to be known as a male and was gay, he would be attracted to men, even though she was a woman, which makes her straight.

Anyone have a flow-chart for this nonsense?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2023, 05:33:40 PM
Anyone have a flow-chart for this nonsense?

A flow chart? Is that some kind of a cisfascist dig at menstruating men?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 05:37:25 PM
Has anyone else noticed that if a trans woman (born male, ids as female) is in the news the MSM almost unfailingly will use the her pronoun but so far I've seen the MSM only use the her pronoun for Hale despite her being a trans man (born female IDs as male).
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Boomhauer on March 28, 2023, 05:41:43 PM
I’m betting she was groomed into being gay/trans. This *expletive deleted*it is insidious.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 05:44:26 PM
And now it's the schools fault
Quote
    As we learn more, it's clear the Nashville Covenant School is a right-wing institution in which Audrey Hale and many others were abused. Obviously, this isn't an excuse to attack it. But there are problems with deregulating religious schools + the US's lack of mental healthcare. pic.twitter.com/J1xgZpA3hZ

    — Eli Erlick (@EliErlick) March 28, 2023

Quote
    A lot of things need to happen in the wake of this terrible Nashville tragedy, but certainly the conservative love affair with radical unregulated religious "schools" should come to an end.

    They try destroying public schools any chance they get, but here we are. https://t.co/K0jFiDACUs

    — Veronica 'Nikatine' Ripley (@NikatinePrime) March 28, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/28/trans-activist-says-its-clear-that-nashville-school-shooter-was-abused-at-her-right-wing-school/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2023, 05:54:04 PM
Makes me wonder what they think could be in the manifesto they don't want us to see

Quote
    “It should not be published,” Jordan Budd, the executive director of Children of Lesbians and Gays Everywhere (COLAGE), told Newsweek. “The focus should be on how this was able to happen in the first place. There should not be such easy access to deadly weaponry.”
    …
    “Regardless of the shooter’s intentions, the real issue here is the ease of access to deadly weapons in Tennessee and elsewhere,” Budd said, adding, “All children, no matter who their parents are or how they identify, should feel safe and supported at school. That includes a world free from gun violence.”

 LGBTQ groups say that releasing school shooter’s manifesto could have ‘serious consequences’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/28/lgbtq-groups-say-that-releasing-school-shooters-manifesto-could-have-serious-consequences/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: griz on March 28, 2023, 07:58:39 PM
Has anyone else noticed that if a trans woman (born male, ids as female) is in the news the MSM almost unfailingly will use the her pronoun but so far I've only seen the MSM use the her pronoun for Hale despite her being a trans man (born female IDs as male).

That kind of leapt out at me when watching the BBC news yesterday.  They usually try to use the pronoun that the subject does, but in that report they referred to the shooter as "she" all through it.  I didn't know if it was some sort of intentional disrespect for the murderer or maybe a tacit admission that they have to use the biologically correct pronoun when the inevitable confusion would cause confusion, and this is too important to mislead.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 28, 2023, 09:00:33 PM
Body cam footage of the responding officers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frM1zPPrvaY
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 28, 2023, 09:55:15 PM
And now it's the schools fault

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/28/trans-activist-says-its-clear-that-nashville-school-shooter-was-abused-at-her-right-wing-school/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsVBsW1WAAAw7-g?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
Quote
    A lot of things need to happen in the wake of this terrible Nashville tragedy, but certainly the conservative love affair with radical unregulated religious "schools" should come to an end.

    They try destroying public schools any chance they get, but here we are. https://t.co/K0jFiDACUs

    — Veronica 'Nikatine' Ripley (@NikatinePrime) March 28, 2023

 :rofl:  Yeah, the public schools are sensible and mainstream. It's these Christian schools ya gotta watch out for. I guess the Romans killed Christians because they felt bullied.

Funny. I've never heard anyone say that public schools are too extreme, because someone decided to shoot one up.  ;/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HankB on March 28, 2023, 10:38:35 PM
If that 28 year old woman wanted to get back at a school she attended as a child, she sure took a long time to make up her mind about it. And as for killing children who weren't even born when she was a student there . . . that's crazy.

Speaking of which . . . doesn't Federal law prohibit purchase of guns by the "mentally defective?" Doesn't gender dysphoria fall into that category? (Plus whatever other problems she was being treated for?)

Quite a few previous mass murderers were on psychoactive meds as well - either taking them when they went nuts, or going over the edge by stopping the meds.  Wonder what, if anything, this killer was on.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2023, 11:57:20 PM
If that 28 year old woman wanted to get back at a school she attended as a child, she sure took a long time to make up her mind about it. And as for killing children who weren't even born when she was a student there . . . that's crazy.

Yeah. Makes one question the narrative that she wanted to punish the school for being mean to her about being "trans." Plus, 20 years ago, none of the other schools were grooming kids to be trans, anyway. It would be interesting to know when she went trans. Probably wasn't on her radar in grade school.

In any case, her other targets were another school, and a shopping mall. Maybe her former school was just enticing because of less security, and because she knew the territory. They said she had drawn maps of her targets, which suggests that was important to her sick, little mind.


Quote
Speaking of which . . . doesn't Federal law prohibit purchase of guns by the "mentally defective?" Doesn't gender dysphoria fall into that category? (Plus whatever other problems she was being treated for?)

I believe it's "adjudicated mentally defective," and a lot of crazies haven't been adjudicated. In any case, gender confusion is now considered a resume enhancement; not a defect.

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 29, 2023, 12:00:54 AM

Speaking of which . . . doesn't Federal law prohibit purchase of guns by the "mentally defective?" Doesn't gender dysphoria fall into that category? (Plus whatever other problems she was being treated for?)


Obviously, you didn't get the memo. Gender dysphoria isn't a bug, it's a feature. The shrink profession has decided (scientifically, of course) that it's now normal and okay for women to believe they are men, and for men to believe they are women. "Treatment" seems to be limited to affirming the delusion, and counseling the deludee that he/she/it is right, and that anyone who doesn't support the delusion is an abuser.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: French G. on March 29, 2023, 12:20:47 AM
The proper response to any metal health red flag laws, OMG she bought guns while being treated etc is extreme pushback from any gun owner. Someone is a danger to themselves or others and a call is made they need an immediate response, they need a same day bed in a mental facility but any restriction of rights after the immediate crisis has to be actual due process, not take the guns away or lock you up and decide the legal why later.

If mental health is tied to guns in such a way that an anonymous tip or a political doctor can make a call and you lose everything the solution will be obvious. No one with a gun will seek mental health care ever. I already don't. The bodycount, mostly suicide, will be enormous.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 29, 2023, 08:02:50 AM
Holy hell:

AOC at 3:25 in case you need more reason to despise her, and Brandon at 11:05.

The rest of the video makes some good points.

https://youtu.be/ClnIVdxPTUE
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HankB on March 29, 2023, 09:48:48 AM
Holy hell:

AOC at 3:25 in case you need more reason to despise her, and Brandon at 11:05.

The rest of the video makes some good points.

https://youtu.be/ClnIVdxPTUE
AOC has become a parody of herself beyond anything the Babylon Bee could produce . . . I mean, every time she opens her mouth she unleashes a tsunami of verbal idiocy . . .
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 29, 2023, 10:30:59 AM

If mental health is tied to guns in such a way that an anonymous tip or a political doctor can make a call and you lose everything the solution will be obvious. No one with a gun will seek mental health care ever. I already don't. The bodycount, mostly suicide, will be enormous.

Years ago -- at least 15, and probably closer to 20 -- someone posted on a forum that no longer exists that anyone seeking any sort of mental health counseling or treatment should go to a shrink or counselor in another city, use an assumed name, and pay in cash. That suggestion was remarkably prescient.

[Edit to add] I discovered a while ago that I can't even trust the chaplains at the VA hospital. Two or three years ago, after one of many rounds of my adult adopted daughter complaining because I didn't send her money every time she asked for it, I stopped by the chaplains' office and had a chat with one of the chaplains about whether I was a bad person because I wasn't willing to put myself in hock to send money to an unappreciative daughter who has never acted like she was part of the family -- except when she wanted money.

A few months ago, in perusing my VA medical records on-line when looking for a report on a medical issue, I discovered that the chaplain had entered the details of my discussion into my medical record, so it's right there for anyone in the VA healthcare system to read. Needless to say, I won't be discussing anything with a VA chaplain again.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: dogmush on March 29, 2023, 10:32:42 AM
The proper response to any metal health red flag laws, OMG she bought guns while being treated etc is extreme pushback from any gun owner. Someone is a danger to themselves or others and a call is made they need an immediate response, they need a same day bed in a mental facility but any restriction of rights after the immediate crisis has to be actual due process, not take the guns away or lock you up and decide the legal why later.

If mental health is tied to guns in such a way that an anonymous tip or a political doctor can make a call and you lose everything the solution will be obvious. No one with a gun will seek mental health care ever. I already don't. The bodycount, mostly suicide, will be enormous.

French is right.  There are clear legal lines that need to be maintained on the whole "Mental Illness so let's restrict their rights" thing.  As gun owners we should be at the frontline of holding those lines or, to paraphrase RKL in another thread: read the proposed rules with the worst possible intent, implementation and application you can imagine.  I also wholeheartedly agree with French that if you are so mentally ill, such a danger to yourself or others, the appropriate call is mental health treatment, not restricting of rights and a hearty "Good Luck", but that's a different problem in America.

For the record, here is the actual rules on question 11f on a 4473:

Quote
Question 11.f. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective: A determination by a court,
board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked
subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease: (1) is
a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or
manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court
in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not
guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.

Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental
institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The term
includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes
commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments
for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a
mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 29, 2023, 01:19:19 PM
Apparently Adam Kinzinger can both like guns, then not like guns, and his opinion means more than yours because he was in the military. I actually don't care about his change on guns, as plenty of people go in the other direction as well. The "military opinions mean more" is what sticks in my craw.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/29/highly-evolved-gun-grabber-adam-kinzinger-doesnt-appreciate-tweeters-blast-from-the-past/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 29, 2023, 01:43:34 PM
Well, this is special. I guess a lot of people don't know that women have had prominent roles in American churches and schools since well before anyone was talking about feminism.

https://twitchy.com/artistangie-313138/2023/03/29/the-ap-headline-about-nashville-christian-school-leader-deserves-the-ratio/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: HankB on March 29, 2023, 01:57:50 PM
Well, this is special. I guess a lot of people don't know that women have had prominent roles in American churches and schools since well before anyone was talking about feminism.

https://twitchy.com/artistangie-313138/2023/03/29/the-ap-headline-about-nashville-christian-school-leader-deserves-the-ratio/
I attended Catholic school during the 60's for grades 1-8. The principals (went through two) were both female during that time.

The best comment at the link - "How ever much you loathe the press, it isn't enough."
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 29, 2023, 02:16:10 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/03/29/katie-hobbs-press-secretary-tweet-about-guns-and-transphobes-n2621244

Quote
Arizona media outlets reported Wednesday afternoon that Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs' press secretary had resigned under public pressure following a vile tweet that appeared to encourage violence against "transphobes."

At least it's nice to hear that calling for violence against us "transphobes" is frowned upon. It's like we have a right to exist, or something.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 29, 2023, 02:31:44 PM
The Lotus Eaters weigh in, and make some valid points:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=451doy5M5MA  (interesting data at 2:03)


Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 29, 2023, 02:37:39 PM
Since they're not releasing the manifesto, does that mean we can assume it was about trans "vengeance"?

Or could it mean she accused someone at the school of molesting her, when she was a child, and the authorities don't want to just throw that out there?

Or could there be an accomplice still at large?

Or is there a better explanation?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 29, 2023, 03:03:03 PM
This tragedy will be memory-holed shortly.  Perp wasn't a cis-gendered white male.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 29, 2023, 03:14:58 PM
So... Yes to confiscation then?

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/29/kjp-wont-explicitly-say-biden-supports-semiautomatic-weapon-confiscation-so-thats-a-yes-then/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 29, 2023, 03:15:48 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/03/29/katie-hobbs-press-secretary-tweet-about-guns-and-transphobes-n2621244

At least it's nice to hear that calling for violence against us "transphobes" is frowned upon. It's like we have a right to exist, or something.

Hobbs' press secretary has resigned:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/az-gov-hobbs-press-secretary-resigns-after-tweet-suggesting-gun-violence-against-transphobes
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 29, 2023, 03:36:04 PM
Hobbs' press secretary has resigned:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/az-gov-hobbs-press-secretary-resigns-after-tweet-suggesting-gun-violence-against-transphobes

Um, yes I just posted that.  ???
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 29, 2023, 04:03:54 PM
So... Yes to confiscation then?

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/29/kjp-wont-explicitly-say-biden-supports-semiautomatic-weapon-confiscation-so-thats-a-yes-then/


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52780372608_9fe9927640_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oq2cWh)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 29, 2023, 04:07:51 PM
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-truly-disturbing-trans-rights-else-shirts-amazon-spark-outrage-wake-nashville-shooting

There are still other sites where you can buy that shirt.

I'd happily wear a shirt with similar imagery, that said something like, "American rights, or else." (Or "human rights," what-have-you.) It's when obviously crazy people demand that everyone respect their crazy, or they'll start shooting, that we start to have a problem.


Also, sorry, they're not sorry:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/03/29/trans-activists-call-for-more-blood-after-nashville-shooting-n1682475
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2023, 04:42:44 PM
Jeremy is reporting over 50 Christian/Catholic schools are on lockdown due to to threats

 Over 50 Schools Now LOCKED DOWN After Things Escalate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV1gvHGYREo
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: sumpnz on March 29, 2023, 05:14:14 PM
If I was retired I’d love to volunteer as (discreetly) armed security for Christian schools.  Be a dad-like presence in addition to being able to respond instantly to an active shooter.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2023, 05:15:11 PM
Controversial group behind 'Trans Day of Vengeance' raised money for firearms training - as other trans protestors pose with guns ahead of march in DC on Saturday
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11915513/Controversial-group-Trans-Day-Vengeance-raised-money-firearms-training.html

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/29/18/69258849-11915513-Two_other_trans_activists_have_since_posted_footage_and_photos_o-a-4_1680111654201.jpg)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 29, 2023, 05:21:26 PM
Controversial group behind 'Trans Day of Vengeance' raised money for firearms training - as other trans protestors pose with guns ahead of march in DC on Saturday
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11915513/Controversial-group-Trans-Day-Vengeance-raised-money-firearms-training.html

Yup, nothing to see there.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/29/16/69253293-11915513-image-a-2_1680102885438.jpg)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Boomhauer on March 29, 2023, 05:31:47 PM
Yup, nothing to see there.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/29/16/69253293-11915513-image-a-2_1680102885438.jpg)

Wish a mother *expletive deleted*er would…
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2023, 05:36:17 PM
Think DC will try to enforce their gun laws on them?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on March 29, 2023, 05:36:24 PM
Funny how the message starts with "defense", but ends with talk about not showing mercy like they will do the attacking.  So crazy they can't even make that make sense.

Controversial group behind 'Trans Day of Vengeance' raised money for firearms training - as other trans protestors pose with guns ahead of march in DC on Saturday
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11915513/Controversial-group-Trans-Day-Vengeance-raised-money-firearms-training.html

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/29/18/69258849-11915513-Two_other_trans_activists_have_since_posted_footage_and_photos_o-a-4_1680111654201.jpg)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2023, 05:40:22 PM
Could go nuclear if someone accidentally uses the wrong pronoun. Cause, you know, using the wrong pronoun is violence.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2023, 05:57:19 PM
Babylon Bee headlines that are almost too true

Media Calls For Moment Of Silence For Shooter Who Was Misgendered
https://babylonbee.com/news/media-calls-for-moment-of-silence-for-shooter-who-was-misgendered

FBI Vows To Get To The Bottom Of What Christians Did To Provoke Attack
https://babylonbee.com/news/fbi-vows-to-get-to-the-bottom-of-what-christians-did-to-provoke-attack

Progressives Across Nation Locked Out Of Accounts After CAPTCHA Asks 'Select All Squares That Contain A Woman'
https://babylonbee.com/news/progressive-locked-out-of-bank-account-after-captcha-prompt-select-all-the-squares-that-contain-a-woman
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2023, 06:47:00 PM
The fact they're calling someone who just murdered 3 9 year old children a martyr should be more than enough to raise a few red flags.
All this because we're trying to prevent them from having control of our children.
Can't help but be reminded of when a parent murders their own children during a custody battle because they if they can't have them no one else will.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on March 29, 2023, 07:27:13 PM
Related news:

Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2023/03/nc-governor-copper-vetos-guarantee-2nd-amendment-freedom-protections-bill-take-action/#ixzz7xG3u06Jc
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NC Governor Copper VETOES ‘Guarantee 2nd Amendment Freedom & Protections Bill’ – Take Action

This was expected.  Doubtful that the veto will be overridden.

Color me all kinds of surprised.  The governor's veto was overridden in both houses of our legislature.  The new law is now in effect, pistol purchase permits are no longer required.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: gunsmith on March 29, 2023, 09:12:17 PM
 I was wrong, I thought "it" was a male to female transgender.
 
  Part of the backlash will be driving a wedge between traditional gun rights folks and the coalition that has been building thru Pink Pistols and communities like that.

 I hope they release the manifesto
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2023, 10:31:55 PM
Quote
Kayla Denker, who runs a YouTube site with videos dedicated to explaining Marxism and guns, posted a video of herself with an assault rifle after the Nashville school shooting.
Quote
Her first video, posted four years ago, was a 10 minute clip entitled 'The Reclamation of Communism'.

She then uploaded an eight-part series on Marxism, plus three parts of a BBC documentary about the German philosopher.

Don't seem to recall the communists being all that tolerance of gays/trans

Revealed: Gun-toting transgender woman who has become the face of the 'Day of Vengeance' organized by trans activists after Nashville massacre is 'former SOLDIER who's also an Antifa member'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11917893/Gun-toting-transgender-woman-backing-day-vengeance-Nashville-massacre-former-SOLDIER.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 30, 2023, 10:22:14 AM
Says she may have been targeting the head pastor with whom she was having private counseling sessions with but when she couldn't find him she shoot his daughter instead.
Would explain why she appeared to be searching for something/someone in the video

REVEALED: Nashville shooter was having 'private counseling sessions' with school's head pastor before massacre where she shot dead his nine-year-old daughter 'because HE wasn't on site'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11919801/Nashville-school-shooter-private-counselling-sessions-schools-head-pastor.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2023, 11:03:25 AM
'because HE wasn't on site'

Definitely the fault of the Christians then.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on March 30, 2023, 12:04:45 PM
And it seems to have dropped out of the nooz cycle.  Nothing on FoxNews or Drudge, CNN has one link about how good the teachers were with barricading their doors.  No featured "official nooz" videos on Youtube about it.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2023, 12:07:23 PM
That "counseling session" story may need further verification, or else the conflicting story, which is still in the news cycle, that she chose that school because others were more secure, needs to be verified.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 30, 2023, 12:32:29 PM
Need more of this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fsasyn8WcAMSQez?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 30, 2023, 03:57:16 PM
Responses (or not) from rainbow .orgs:


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/03/30/lgbt-organizations-fail-to-condemn-nashville-school-shooting-n1682808
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: cordex on March 30, 2023, 04:02:22 PM
Responses (or not) from rainbow .orgs:
Eh.  Yes, I'm aware that this is just holding them to their own standard, but I don't feel the need to apologize when some right winger or gun owner does something violent, nor do I need to speak out every time something bad happens.

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 30, 2023, 04:07:25 PM
They're doing everything they can to make her the victim and a martyr in all of this. I fear we may be seeing more martyrs in the near future.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on March 30, 2023, 04:25:27 PM
They're doing everything they can to make her the victim and a martyr in all of this. I fear we may be seeing more martyrs in the near future.

That will further cement gender dysphoria as a mental illness rather than their "oh gee, that's neat!" perspective about it.  It's in their movement's best interest to not murder random innocents.

(Shockingly obvious, you'd think... but you just never know with some folks)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 30, 2023, 04:32:27 PM
Like I said Sat could be interesting though some may be trying to getting an early start.

Quote
Gun control activists were seen storming Tennessee's State Capitol Thursday amid rising fears of a left-wing uprising at a rumored protest in Washington, DC.

Footage of the insurrection shows progressive protesters battling with cops as they attempted to gain access to the legislature in Nashville. Hundreds of people were seen inside the lobby and yelling from the gallery at concerned lawmakers.

The protest against guns comes after transgender shooter Audrey Hale on Monday gunned down six people, including three nine-year-old kids, at a Christian school in Nashville.

In a separate demonstration, trans activists yesterday invaded Kentucky's State Capitol in Frankfort to protest a Republican-backed bill to ban transgender procedures for children. Among the mob was a self-described 'genderqueer clown nun', who immediately drew comparisons to the QAnon Shaman of the January 6 riot.

Gun control activists storm Tennessee State Capitol in Nashville after 'Trans Shaman' joined occupation of Kentucky legislature - as fears of a left-wing uprising loom ahead of Trans Day of Vengeance
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11921273/Gun-control-activists-storm-Tennessee-State-Capitol-fears-left-wing-uprising-loom.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 30, 2023, 04:45:57 PM
That will further cement gender dysphoria as a mental illness rather than their "oh gee, that's neat!" perspective about it.

Much of the left would rather go down as flaming kamikazes than accept gender dysphoria is a mental illness. 
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 30, 2023, 04:48:08 PM
Appears CNN finally figured out a S2K is not an AR-15

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/us/nashville-shooting-guns-used/index.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 30, 2023, 05:00:30 PM
Eh.  Yes, I'm aware that this is just holding them to their own standard, but I don't feel the need to apologize when some right winger or gun owner does something violent, nor do I need to speak out every time something bad happens.


Read the article. Some orgs did comment, but used it as an opportunity to whine about gender-blenders being victims.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: BobR on March 30, 2023, 05:04:11 PM
Appears CNN finally figured out a S2K is not an AR-15

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/us/nashville-shooting-guns-used/index.html

That article pretty much wanted to make me  [barf]

Quote
CNN analyst Jennifer Mascia, writer and founder of The Trace,... Handguns are used more often in mass shootings, but semi-automatic rifles rarely leave survivors.

“That’s because when a rifle round makes contact, it will twist and turn sideways, carving a wide path through human tissue,” she said.

I would write her but it would not change her narrative.

Quote
“It’s perfectly legal in Tennessee to buy a gun without a background check,” she said. “Tennessee in 2021 became the 25th permitless carry state. So you could carry a gun in public without ever having a background check.”

Under certain circumstances, yes. Private Party. Through an FFL, no.

But they did figure out the Sub2000 finally.

bob

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 30, 2023, 05:21:35 PM
Quote
“It’s perfectly legal in Tennessee to buy a gun without a background check,” she said. “Tennessee in 2021 became the 25th permitless carry state. So you could carry a gun in public without ever having a background check.”

When did they legalize school shootings?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on March 30, 2023, 05:37:32 PM
Their ignorance is by design.  What better way to scare the great unwashed into banning the ownership of certain types of firearms that can make people extra dead.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2023, 06:04:16 PM
Quote
KJP: "Our hearts go out to the trans community, as they are under attack right now."

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/30/karine-jean-pierres-heart-goes-out-to-the-trans-community-which-is-under-attack-right-now/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 30, 2023, 06:06:03 PM
KJP Dec 1941: "Our hearts go out to the Japanese, as they are under attack right now."
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on March 30, 2023, 07:03:54 PM
Saw this on the Book of Faces
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 30, 2023, 07:15:50 PM
Too soon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_LciuVvkY





(https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED831/6424d508397c8.webp)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on March 30, 2023, 07:52:36 PM
Per Angel Eyes' youtube link, didn't know about this particular little conspiracy:

Vans or Pumas?

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20230329-nashville-school-shooting-conspiracy-theories-emerge-on-shooters-shoes
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 30, 2023, 07:54:51 PM
Staying classy

 Classy: Protesters hold ‘die-in’ at state capitol to symbolize how many trans lives could be lost
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/30/classy-protesters-hold-die-in-at-state-capitol-to-symbolize-how-many-trans-lives-could-be-lost/

Quote
According to KXAN in Austin, this “die-in” took place overnight at the Texas State Capitol on March 28 … which would be after the mass shooting of six people, including three children, at a private Christian school in Nashville. Apparently, they were protesting a bill that would ban minors from receiving medical treatment to change their gender.

Quote
If a church staged a "die in" after a Christian killed a bunch of people at a gay bar, that would be interpreted as a mockery of the victims

That is what is happening here https://t.co/NdvyKGxhJh

— PoliMath (@politicalmath) March 30, 2023
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on March 30, 2023, 08:42:20 PM
Too soon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_LciuVvkY

I'm a terrible human being. 
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2023, 08:58:30 PM
The Washington Post is removing their paywall to ensure their story gets out about how this shooting harms the trans community.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/30/shameless-wapo-drops-paywall-on-important-story-about-intensifying-rhetoric-against-trans-people/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 30, 2023, 10:43:47 PM
If the woke media are so gung-ho about supporting trans persons ... why are they consistently "mis-gendering" the shooter and referring to her as "her" and using her dead-name of Audrey?

Quote
And Tennessee is one of about 30 US states with no red flag laws, which allow police and courts to take away guns from potentially dangerous people, according to CNN analyst Abené Clayton, lead reporter on The Guardian’s “Guns & Lies in America” series.

Untrue. Tennessee doesn't have a "red flag" law of the type that makes a mockery of the principle of due process, but it certainly has laws that would allow taking guns away from people who may be dangerous -- and putting those people away.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/11/18/mental-illness-involuntary-psychiatric-commitment-tennessee/1580525002/


Quote
“There’s no infrastructure for concerned people,” Clayton said. “Clearly, this individual’s parents were concerned and, by all accounts, having a system that they could use to alert local authorities or to get a petition from a judge to have guns removed is certainly something I think a lot of folks wish would have been available.”

But (as noted above) there IS such an infrastructure. So either (a) the parents weren't concerned that their darling daughter was a danger to herself or others, OR (b) the parents knew their darling daughter was a dangerous nutjob but weren't willing to drop the dime on her.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on March 31, 2023, 08:16:42 AM
If the woke media are so gung-ho about supporting trans persons ... why are they consistently "mis-gendering" the shooter and referring to her as "her" and using her dead-name of Audrey?

Well, she is dead, after all.

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 31, 2023, 10:43:37 AM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/59535421eec603fd918b652c2d213712.jpg)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 31, 2023, 11:45:33 AM
Quote
But what Hale and others are making known, on no uncertain terms, is that the church cannot occupy some neutral space. It has tried for decades to appease, offering sacrifices of female priests and rainbow flags, and lately even surrendering the pulpit itself to men in drag. The purported shepherds have thrown the flock to the wolves while they write columns for the New York Times, yet even this is not enough, nor will it ever be, until every knee bows. While the church represents some impediment to complete gender-identity affirmation, some serious rebuttal to radical self-determination, and the last meaningful buttress between life and institutionalized death, the violence will not stop. Indeed, it will probably get worse.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/keep-being-the-problem/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 31, 2023, 11:48:49 AM
"Seven Fingers, Seven Victims" -- TN Capitol Protesters Appear to Include Trans Shooter Among the Victims
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1641615353074548739
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2023, 11:51:14 AM
"Seven Fingers, Seven Victims" -- TN Capitol Protesters Appear to Include Trans Shooter Among the Victims
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1641615353074548739

Well, she was an innocent budding artist whose life was tragically taken.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/31/daily-mirror-dragged-for-weepy-mournful-tweet-about-mass-murderer-audrey-hales-whimsical-artwork/

One if the better comments:

Quote
The Milwaukee Cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer could have been a chef as his sous vide pectoral was “delectable” and “complex”, a former acquaintance has revealed.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 31, 2023, 11:53:36 AM
[slippery slope meme]

What comes after the t-shirt?

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 31, 2023, 11:55:30 AM
What comes after the t-shirt?

World War T
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2023, 11:55:37 AM
What comes after the t-shirt?

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi5.walmartimages.com%2Fasr%2F0110b075-c4ed-4ae7-988e-dfaaeab5de9c_1.3d4e495674ed7e605cb1161265fa225a.jpeg%3FodnWidth%3D1000%26odnHeight%3D1000%26odnBg%3Dffffff&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=7ec3370e96f662dd535c4fdb1d548218b285db37f8ddfd8cab2bc1898d41d1fc&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 31, 2023, 12:12:29 PM
Hang the Hawaiian shirts back up at least for the moment

Quote
    The group behind "Trans D*y of V*ngeance" says it is cancelling its event on April 1 due to "credible threat to life and safety." They don't say if those threats are from their group or someone else. pic.twitter.com/fK4ApEmvyx

    — Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) March 31, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/31/so-theyre-not-stopping-trans-genocide-trans-day-of-vengeance-canceled-due-to-credible-threats/

They were the ones making all the threats now they fear for their safety.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 31, 2023, 12:25:03 PM
Hang the Hawaiian shirts back up at least for the moment
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/31/so-theyre-not-stopping-trans-genocide-trans-day-of-vengeance-canceled-due-to-credible-threats/

They were the ones making all the threats now they fear for their safety.

But they (and I do mean they) said they would show no mercy. Guess they didn't mean it.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 31, 2023, 12:43:34 PM
"Seven Fingers, Seven Victims" -- TN Capitol Protesters Appear to Include Trans Shooter Among the Victims
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1641615353074548739

Math is transphobic.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 31, 2023, 12:43:55 PM
Hang the Hawaiian shirts back up at least for the moment
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/31/so-theyre-not-stopping-trans-genocide-trans-day-of-vengeance-canceled-due-to-credible-threats/

They were the ones making all the threats now they fear for their safety.

https://twitter.com/DeaconFrost95/status/1641646623314034688
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on March 31, 2023, 04:05:32 PM
Message from the NWS

Quote
    To promote justice, equality, and equity for the transgender community, the National Weather Service family champions and stands alongside our transgender employees on this day and every day! #TransDayOfVisibility pic.twitter.com/mUb54CEe9o

    — National Weather Service (@NWS) March 31, 2023
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/03/31/national-weather-service-weighs-in-on-transdayofvisibility-and-the-forecast-calls-for-ratios/

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 31, 2023, 04:19:09 PM
We should remember every 27 March as Trans Visibility Instability Day.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on March 31, 2023, 04:44:32 PM
They're getting ratioed big time on the Twitts for that one.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: JTHunter on March 31, 2023, 07:04:30 PM
Too soon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_LciuVvkY

Requires sign in.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 01, 2023, 07:49:42 AM
Too soon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_LciuVvkY


"Andy's coming!"   :rofl:
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 01, 2023, 10:02:57 AM
Requires sign in.  :facepalm:

Age/content restricted. Just create a login using a expendable email account
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MillCreek on April 01, 2023, 11:55:39 AM
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/how-a-fake-nashville-manifesto-fueled-anti-trans-rage-online/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/not-real-news-a-look-at-what-didnt-happen-this-week-151/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1680321641-1

Apparently you can't even trust manifestos any more.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 01, 2023, 01:53:59 PM
Gosh, golly, gee whiz! If'n we cain't trust the media, who CAN we trust?

Maybe the PO'-lice ...
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 01, 2023, 02:11:45 PM
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/how-a-fake-nashville-manifesto-fueled-anti-trans-rage-online/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/not-real-news-a-look-at-what-didnt-happen-this-week-151/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1680321641-1

Apparently you can't even trust manifestos any more.

Quote
Both incidents highlight how trolls and liars are using computer tools to muddle the truth about mass killings, either to stir up panic or take advantage of the tragedies for ideological gain.

Oh, so NOW it's a problem?  ;/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 01, 2023, 05:24:47 PM
Huuuuh

Quote
I don't think there's a video game publisher in the world who would host a game where you go around killing transgender people
But if you're in one of the "oppressed" classes, fantasies of killing political opponents are not only encouraged, they're monetized on Steam!

Just two months before a transgender person went on a shooting spree, killing people at a conservative Christian school, a game called "Terfenstein" was released. This game lets you play as a trans character and go around killing people who aren't on board with the trans agenda like Priests and "TERFs" (Trans exclusionary radical feminists) like J.K. Rowling.

This video game released two months prior to the Nashville shooting lets you play as a transgender gunman who kills Christians and feminists
https://notthebee.com/article/this-video-game-released-just-two-months-prior-to-the-nashville-shooting-lets-you-play-as-a-transgender-character-and-go-around-shooting-christians-and-anti-trans-feminists

Youtube link to the trailer out 4 months ago  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUj2IYbL-zI

The Quartering YT video on the game

 The Most Vile Video Game In History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrkWYc4vLo
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 02, 2023, 11:32:35 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230331/51765540f734fe40eea48c6804e6921d.jpg)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 02, 2023, 11:41:06 AM
I know for a fact 5.56 fired from the super high powered AR-15 doesn't leave enough body behind to ID because an all knowing all wise congress critter said so.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 02, 2023, 12:14:23 PM
Huuuuh

This video game released two months prior to the Nashville shooting lets you play as a transgender gunman who kills Christians and feminists

...

The Quartering YT video on the game

 The Most Vile Video Game In History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrkWYc4vLo

From the comments:

"I tried playing but half the time the avatar would just die on its own."
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 02, 2023, 05:59:22 PM
From the comments:

"I tried playing but half the time the avatar would just die on its own."

(https://media.tenor.com/6IXR_LUQTfcAAAAC/black-guys.gif)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Lennyjoe on April 03, 2023, 08:38:48 PM
Daily beast story says 152 rounds fired by the perp.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale-plotted-attack-for-months-cops-say?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 03, 2023, 08:45:06 PM
Was just getting ready to post that
Note they're still saying two "assault" rifles

From a link from the above article

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Despite the disorder, cops said Hale, 28, was able to legally build up an arsenal of seven guns that were kept hidden at home—three of which were used to mow down six people at The Covenant School.

Seven guns is an "arsenal"

Also note this

Quote
Drake also divulged details about a manifesto Hale left behind, which allegedly included a map of the campus and a plan on how he'd enter the building. The writings also indicated the private Christian school may not have been the only planned target. Family members and a shopping mall were among other possible targets, he said.

Family members and a mall

Nashville Shooter Amassed an Arsenal Despite Being Under Doctor’s Care
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale-amassed-an-arsenal-despite-being-under-docs-care-cops-say
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: BobR on April 03, 2023, 09:25:41 PM
^^^^

From some of the things I have read about her home life and parents I was kind of surprised she didn't start with them.


bob
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 03, 2023, 11:10:50 PM
^^^^

From some of the things I have read about her home life and parents I was kind of surprised she didn't start with them.


bob

Links?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 04, 2023, 10:50:08 AM
^^^^

From some of the things I have read about her home life and parents I was kind of surprised she didn't start with them.

Wasn't she still living with her parents at age 28?  If home life was that terrible, she could have moved out.

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 04, 2023, 11:32:14 AM
Wasn't she still living with her parents at age 28?  If home life was that terrible, she could have moved out.

She have a job?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 04, 2023, 11:34:55 AM
She have a job?

She claimed to be a graphic artist, so . . . probably not.

Still, there are alternatives if her home life was hell:  couch surfing with friends, homeless shelter, etc.

How did she afford seven firearms and ammunition?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 04, 2023, 12:34:17 PM


How did she afford seven firearms and ammunition?

I thought the FBI provided those.  ;)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: BobR on April 04, 2023, 12:35:25 PM
Links?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11912163/Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hales-parents-accept-gay-trans.html

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-christian-school-shooting-claims-audrey-hale-was-rejected-by-family-who-couldnt-accept-trans-identity/HXYHOBJL55AUZDSOGA3NCAQZ5M/

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“We strongly believe there was going to be some other targets, including maybe family members, and one of the malls here in Nashville,” he said.

https://news.yahoo.com/audrey-hale-disturbing-art-revealed-174614115.html


bob
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 04, 2023, 01:10:08 PM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11912163/Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hales-parents-accept-gay-trans.html

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-christian-school-shooting-claims-audrey-hale-was-rejected-by-family-who-couldnt-accept-trans-identity/HXYHOBJL55AUZDSOGA3NCAQZ5M/

https://news.yahoo.com/audrey-hale-disturbing-art-revealed-174614115.html


There's a lot to unpack there.

So her parents were religious. One article says the parents didn't accept that "she" was homosexual. The other article said the parents couldn't accept that "she" was transgender. Yet those same parents still allowed her to live at home. But, as so often these days, I am confused. How does this work?

She (Audrey) was born female. So if a female prefers to engage in sexual relations with other females, that's homosexuality. Check.

But Audrey had decided that she was a he, and adopted the name of Aiden. So what is a "normal" relationship for a transgender "male"? If "he" becomes sexually involved with females, is that homosexuality or is it (cough, cough) heterosexuality? If "he" becomes involved with a genuine biological male, is it homosexuality?

And what is it if a transgender male becomes sexually involved with a transgender female?

The NZ article reported that she/he/it wanted to die. Fine. He/she/it had firearms and could have just killed itself, but that wouldn't have made a STATEMENT. No -- it had to kill other, innocent people.

I wish we could know more about exactly what she as being treated for, and what the attitude and approach of the mental health professional (psychiatrist? psychologist? MSW?) was toward whatever her problems were. It appears that, at 28 years of age, she had only recently come out as transgender. I'm way out on a limb here, but I'm going to guess that if the authorities probe deep enough, they'll learn that she was groomed at the art school she was attending.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 04, 2023, 01:50:41 PM
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So her parents were religious. One article says the parents didn't accept that "she" was homosexual. The other article said the parents couldn't accept that "she" was transgender. Yet those same parents still allowed her to live at home. But, as so often these days, I am confused. How does this work?

There is a parenting style out there that refuses to grant agency to adult-sized children.

"No you may not move out, you'll just ruin your life."

Dunno if that is the philosophy of the parents in this case, but without considerable self-confidence on the part of the offspring, it's quite difficult to build sufficient determination to just jump off the cliff into the adult world.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: sumpnz on April 04, 2023, 01:58:33 PM
There is a parenting style out there that refuses to grant agency to adult-sized children.

"No you may not move out, you'll just ruin your life."

Dunno if that is the philosophy of the parents in this case, but without considerable self-confidence on the part of the offspring, it's quite difficult to build sufficient determination to just jump off the cliff into the adult world.

My kids know that at 18 and graduated from high school they have 3 options.  College, get a job and become self supporting or can take them to the military recruiting center.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 04, 2023, 02:40:03 PM
There is a parenting style out there that refuses to grant agency to adult-sized children.

"No you may not move out, you'll just ruin your life."

Dunno if that is the philosophy of the parents in this case, but without considerable self-confidence on the part of the offspring, it's quite difficult to build sufficient determination to just jump off the cliff into the adult world.

What you say is true, but the counterpoint is that her "hateful, bigoted" parents didn't throw her out of the house and disown her. And they apparently knew that she was playing he once she left the house. The parents simply exercised their parental right to say, "If you're going to live under our roof, you will abide by our rules while you are under our roof." That's not an unreasonable request when the person is 28 years old.

And I have to wonder if her shrink helped convince her that such a simple act of parenting was hateful and bigoted.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 04, 2023, 04:12:04 PM
(https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIF.1yWOYTS4D%2fs97ZsBSfR05g&pid=ImgDet&rs=1)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 04, 2023, 04:56:29 PM
Funny how the parents are criticized for everything except raising a girl who refused to accept she was a girl.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 04, 2023, 05:55:04 PM
Funny how the parents are criticized for everything except raising a girl who refused to accept she was a girl.

I'd like to know how the perp stashed seven guns in her parents' house without them knowing.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 04, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
I'd like to know how the perp stashed seven guns in her parents' house without them knowing.

Doesn't seem that hard. She probably asked some married men for tips.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 04, 2023, 06:02:56 PM
Doesn't seem that hard. She probably asked some married men for tips.

Interesting answer.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: dogmush on April 04, 2023, 08:15:41 PM
I'd like to know how the perp stashed seven guns in her parents' house without them knowing.

Meh, not that hard. Between when I turned 18 and when I left for the Army at 18 and 9 months I bought 5 guns and brought them into my parents house. They did not know until I told them at on the eve of shipping to Ft, Benning.

I used the advances fieldcraft technique of bring them in when my parents were at work, and storing them in rifle cases in my closet.

How often does the normal parent toss their kid's room?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 04, 2023, 08:31:06 PM
Guess sainthood is next

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A transgender pastor from North Dakota has compared the treatment of Nashville shooter Audrey Hale to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ less than a week after the twisted killer murdered six people, including three nine-year-old children.

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'Instead of focusing on ways this could've been prevented, such as gun control, a significant number of people have turned their attention to the shooter's identity,' the pastor said.

'Instead of focusing on the number one cause of child death in this country is now gunshot wounds.

And still no manifesto who would help explain what her motives were.

Wild moment transgender North Dakota pastor claims Nashville school shooter has been treated like Jesus being CRUCIFIED... after gunman shot dead six including two children
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11938375/Trans-Nashville-pastor-claims-treatment-Audrey-Hale-comparable-Jesus-Christ-crucifixion.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 04, 2023, 08:33:48 PM
My wife knows about (almost*) every gun I've bought.
I do hope she will pull the inventory list with most recent values on them if I die and she decides to sell them though.


* RIA 1911, she was staying with her sister when the brother in law was in the hospital with the kung flu. He died a few days later before I could see her to tell her about it so I decided to just sort of leave it alone.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 04, 2023, 10:19:14 PM
Meh, not that hard. Between when I turned 18 and when I left for the Army at 18 and 9 months I bought 5 guns and brought them into my parents house. They did not know until I told them at on the eve of shipping to Ft, Benning.

I used the advances fieldcraft technique of bring them in when my parents were at work, and storing them in rifle cases in my closet.

How often does the normal parent toss their kid's room?

I've told the story before about how one of my Dad's friends needed to get his guns out of the house (larcenous, junkie family member), so my Dad agreed to take them. Months later, he found them under my old bed, and asked me if they were mine. He wasn't senile. He just simply forgot.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: gunsmith on April 04, 2023, 10:26:59 PM
 I often talk to an ex GF in NY - she has a 40 yr old son, makes more than she does but he's an abusive drunk and always broke - breaks things in the apt all the time because he's angry at her for her for all the dumb things she did in the 80's .
 A lot of parents can't say "no" I guess IT ™ was one of these adult kids that could convince the parents to let her stay home.

 The story seems to out of the news already, no manifesto releases due to how powerful the enemy is
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on April 05, 2023, 08:38:09 AM
I often talk to an ex GF in NY - she has a 40 yr old son, makes more than she does but he's an abusive drunk and always broke - breaks things in the apt all the time because he's angry at her for her for all the dumb things she did in the 80's .

One problem with parenting is, you start when you're young and dumb, and you get one go at it.  By the time you've maybe figured things out, you're through. 

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 05, 2023, 09:14:32 AM
Yeah, I asked a few pages back if living with her parents was such hell to the point of making her want to shot children why didn't she move out.

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: French G. on April 05, 2023, 09:45:23 AM
The look on my ex wife’s face when she saw guns lining every wall of my new den while waiting for the safe to be delivered. She realized that all of them had been in her house. She thought I had a few. Didn’t have the heart to tell her that was the reduced circumstance, for three years of not working I sold guns or accessories when I needed cash. Hiding a few guns in your room isn’t hard.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 05, 2023, 01:33:26 PM
https://tennesseelookout.com/briefs/shooting-targets-founder-of-progressive-news-site-tennessee-holler/

Left leaning TN website founder is reportedly shot at in his home.

I'd like to see forensic examination of recovered projectiles and an inventory of any firearms Kanew and any known associates might own.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 05, 2023, 01:39:12 PM
https://tennesseelookout.com/briefs/shooting-targets-founder-of-progressive-news-site-tennessee-holler/

Left leaning TN website founder is reportedly shot at in his home.

I'd like to see forensic examination of recovered projectiles and an inventory of any firearms Kanew and any known associates might own.

Jussie Smollett to the red courtesy phone.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on April 05, 2023, 05:17:58 PM
https://tennesseelookout.com/briefs/shooting-targets-founder-of-progressive-news-site-tennessee-holler/

Left leaning TN website founder is reportedly shot at in his home.

I'd like to see forensic examination of recovered projectiles and an inventory of any firearms Kanew and any known associates might own.

I'd laugh if there was a picture of him holding unfired cartridges saying they had been recovered from the alleged shooting.  We've seen that sort o thing before.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 05, 2023, 08:25:04 PM
I'd laugh if there was a picture of him holding unfired cartridges saying they had been recovered from the alleged shooting.  We've seen that sort o thing before.

I've also seen a pic of someone holding a handful of screwdriver bits claiming they were bullets found in a school parking lot.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: griz on April 06, 2023, 12:40:27 AM
I've also seen a pic of someone holding a handful of screwdriver bits claiming they were bullets found in a school parking lot.

Worse I heard was a guy with a high lift jack in his Jeep that could be seen by other vehicles.  Poor guy had the police called on him because somebody thought it was a very scary Assault Weapon.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 06, 2023, 09:36:59 AM
They're not saying it but I get the feeling this could have been a similar story
She was arrested 2019

Quote
Authorities found 24 homemade bombs in Kolts' bedroom in the home she shared with her parents in October 2019. The devices were filled with nails, screws, and pellets, along with materials to make more bombs, and books about terrorist bombings. Also found was a hit list.

They're not saying who was on hit list.

Florida woman found with 24 pipe bombs pleads guilty to avoid jail, focus on mental health
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-woman-24-pipe-bombs-pleads-guilty-jail-time-mental-health

You tell me, from the photos does that look like a woman trying to look like a man?

Florida woman arrested after 24 pipe bombs found in home
https://abcnews.go.com/US/planned-hurt-people-florida-woman-arrested-24-pipe/story?id=66060331

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Pb on April 06, 2023, 12:03:01 PM
"She's not going to suffer the stigma of a conviction on any of those counts as long as she stays crime free and abides by the terms of her probation," Kolts' attorney, Barry Taracks, said.

Honk honk!
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 06, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/michelle-kolts/

I don’t know if the cops or the media, or both, but someone’s really talking up the idea of her “obsession” with previous acts of mass murder. I don’t see anything about gender, but that stuff was less fashionable in 2019.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 07, 2023, 08:57:27 AM
Possibly another one avoided
I'm starting to wonder if we should go back and examine pass school shootings. Problem with that is that until recently people tented to keep it in the closet so to speak a lot more

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Colorado authorities arrested a 19-year-old suspect for allegedly planning to shoot up multiple schools in Colorado Springs.

The 18th Judicial District Attorney’s Office on Thursday said the defendant, William Whitworth, who identified as "Lilly" and – according to a DA spokesman – was in the process of transitioning to female.

Colorado suspect allegedly planned multiple school shootings: Authorities
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-suspect-allegedly-planned-multiple-school-shootings-authorities
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 07, 2023, 02:22:13 PM
From Epoch Times article on the same incident:

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Charges have been filed against a man who identifies as a woman after he allegedly planned to carry out mass shooting attacks on multiple schools in Colorado Springs, the 18th Judicial District Attorney’s Office announced.
...
Police reportedly visited Whitworth’s home and questioned him regarding the allegations, to which he allegedly responded by nodding his head when asked if he had planned to carry out a school shooting. According to arrest records, police believed Whitworth to be intoxicated when they arrived at the home to question him.

Kudos to the ET for using the suspect's correct pronouns.



(ETA: apparently the suspect was arrested on March 31st.  Not clear why the story didn't break until several days later)


Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: French G. on April 08, 2023, 10:59:31 AM
None of the news, including a google search, will mention that the insurrectionists in Tennessee were leading with chants of seven fingers, seven lives. A week and a racist expulsion later the protest was all for gun control. Fox news leading the charge on that whitewash.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 08, 2023, 11:10:40 AM
None of the news, including a google search, will mention that the insurrectionists in Tennessee were leading with chants of seven fingers, seven lives. A week and a racist expulsion later the protest was all for gun control. Fox news leading the charge on that whitewash.

It's was an insurrection democracy

 Kamala Harris says lefties taking over Tenn. Capitol was democracy in action 
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/04/08/kamala-harris-says-lefties-taking-over-tenn-capitol-was-democracy-in-action/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: gunsmith on April 08, 2023, 09:26:04 PM
It's was an insurrection democracy

 Kamala Harris says lefties taking over Tenn. Capitol was democracy in action 
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/04/08/kamala-harris-says-lefties-taking-over-tenn-capitol-was-democracy-in-action/

it's not an insurrection when they do it
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: JTHunter on April 09, 2023, 05:21:08 PM
They should have bounced all three out on their heads.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on April 13, 2023, 10:12:03 AM
About those pure as the fresh driven snow TN legislators:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/04/13/unearthed-video-of-tn-3-rep-justin-jones-from-the-summer-of-2020-makes-them-look-even-worse-watch/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 13, 2023, 11:16:24 AM
About those pure as the fresh driven snow TN legislators:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/04/13/unearthed-video-of-tn-3-rep-justin-jones-from-the-summer-of-2020-makes-them-look-even-worse-watch/

(https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/im_shocked.gif)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 28, 2023, 11:55:24 AM
They're saying the manifesto will be released. Not saying when or if parts will be redacted or not
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: BobR on April 28, 2023, 01:00:19 PM
They're saying the manifesto will be released. Not saying when or if parts will be redacted or not


Which one, the original or the one that has be in re-write for several weeks?  [tinfoil]


bob
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: gunsmith on April 30, 2023, 10:05:29 PM

Which one, the original or the one that has be in re-write for several weeks?  [tinfoil]


bob

the one in which IT claims to be a straight white Christian evangelical Protestant and Catholic Trump voter, who volunteers for both  NRA and Republican events
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 18, 2023, 12:00:03 PM
Still no manifesto but this popped up

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    I did not know that the Covenant shooter took a detour from the school to the cathedral in order to shoot out the stained glass figure of Adamhttps://t.co/TDTcR7FAAt pic.twitter.com/g6QK5quXfX

    — PoIiMath (@politicalmath) May 18, 2023

 ‘Unreported detail’ may shed light on Covenant shooter’s motive while we wait (and wait) for manifesto
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/05/18/unreported-detail-may-shed-light-on-covenant-shooters-motive-while-we-wait-and-wait-for-manifesto/

The article they're referencing is behind a paywall that does allow limited free views

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2023/05/15/shooting-adam/

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What changed my mind was an unreported detail, confirmed privately by both the police and a church deacon in charge of the physical plant. At some point during her spree, Hale went from the school to the (attached) neo-Gothic cathedral and fired seven bullets into a stained-glass figure of Adam, the first man, according to the Genesis narrative. A writer may try for a while to resist such a symbol, but, as the existence of this article proves, he is unlikely to prevail in the end.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on May 18, 2023, 12:34:42 PM
This delay makes me wonder if the manifesto makes accusations against people there that officials are reluctant to make public.  Hopefully, we will find out. 
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 18, 2023, 12:36:46 PM
I kind of doubt we will see the full, unredacted manifesto anytime in the near future.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 18, 2023, 06:41:23 PM
According to this the church is trying to block the release for security reasons

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Over the weekend, the Covenant Presbyterian Church and associated Covenant School filed a motion to block the public release of the manifesto of the transgender shooter who attacked the school, court documents revealed.

Monday court filings revealed that the Covenant Church requested that the court prevent the documents from being released to the public, citing privacy concerns.

The motion, filed against the Tennessee Firearms Association, and another filed against the Nashville Police Association stated that the manifesto “may include and/or relate to information owned by Covenant Church,” such as “schematics of church facilities and confidential information” regarding employees.

The church claimed the manifesto’s release could “impair or impede its ability to protect its interests and the privacy of its employees.”

A judge is scheduled to hear the church’s motion on Thursday.
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2023/05/18/nashville-school-n70609
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: French G. on May 18, 2023, 06:46:30 PM
Think this one is bad, anyone hear a peep about the about to graduate kid in New Mexico who went nuts and shot a bunch of people?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 18, 2023, 07:16:42 PM
Think this one is bad, anyone hear a peep about the about to graduate kid in New Mexico who went nuts and shot a bunch of people?

This one?
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/farmington-new-mexico-shooting-05-16-23/index.html
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: sumpnz on May 18, 2023, 07:19:21 PM
According to this the church is trying to block the release for security reasons
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2023/05/18/nashville-school-n70609

Bet they were involved in pushing “conversion therapy” or some equivalent boogeymen for the left.  They (rightly) don’t want the publicity from such coming out.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on November 06, 2023, 10:50:10 AM
I don't know how he got it, but it looks legit. Steven Crowder dropped part of the shooter's manifesto:

https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/06/nashville-shooters-manifesto-n2389464
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on November 06, 2023, 11:01:50 AM
Russian disinformation, just like everything else that doesn't fit the narrative
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on November 06, 2023, 11:27:31 AM
I don't know how he got it, but it looks legit. Steven Crowder dropped part of the shooter's manifesto:

https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/06/nashville-shooters-manifesto-n2389464

The whole deranged block printing in a school notebook thing is familiar.

Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on November 06, 2023, 11:34:01 AM
They added an update
Apparently he has the whole thing

Quote
-UPDATE--

Sounds like Crowder read it on the air:

    Steven Crowder reads the FULL Nashville Shooter Manifesto by Audrey Hale pic.twitter.com/RZ4ez56bJy
    — NoLightStreets (@NoLightStreets) November 6, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/06/nashville-shooters-manifesto-n2389464
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on November 06, 2023, 05:28:49 PM
Well, I think we can confirm that it's the real deal, since the Nashville Mayor is going after the leaker, because that's the most important thing here.  ;/

https://twitchy.com/chad-felix-greene/2023/11/06/thats-not-the-question-that-needs-answered-nashville-mayor-vows-to-find-trans-manifesto-leaker-n2389484
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on November 06, 2023, 05:38:01 PM
Crowder didn't do it quickly.  Listening to the show now and they keep breaking off and talking about it. 

If you want to listen, I imagine Rumble is the best place to do it.  (or Twitter now that I looked at those Twitchy links)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2023, 01:40:30 PM
Apparently they're highly upset it got out.

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    BREAKING: I just got word that two officers are due to be fired over the the release of the #NashvilleManifesto pages.
    Allegedly, the documents were sold by one of the officers.

    Yesterday I said that I wanted to wait to report on the released pages because while it was a major…
    — Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) November 7, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/07/candace-owens-nashville-two-cops-losing-their-jobs-for-leaking-the-manifesto-n2389519
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 07, 2023, 01:59:54 PM
What's the TLDR on the manifesto?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on November 07, 2023, 02:06:01 PM
What's the TLDR on the manifesto?

It's pretty short.

Pale white mentally ill young woman hates white people for their privilege and wants to kill the "little crackers".

---edit to add--

Let's see if I can hotlink...

(https://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/covenant-manifesto-page.jpg)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: gunsmith on November 07, 2023, 02:20:56 PM
 I can't say how I feel about "it" because we are polite here, please use your imagination
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 07, 2023, 02:30:22 PM
It's pretty short.

Pale white mentally ill young woman hates white people for their privilege and wants to kill the "little crackers".

You omitted "trans" woman -- probably meaning a male transvestite. And apparently the school had a program of sorts for trying to de-program "transsexual" persons.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Ben on November 07, 2023, 02:36:33 PM
You omitted "trans" woman -- probably meaning a male transvestite. And apparently the school had a program of sorts for trying to de-program "transsexual" persons.

No, she's a biological woman - "trans" man.

I also saw that the MSM has been spinning it as "The conservatives are taking the manifesto out of context and cleverly editing excerpts from it to push an agenda. She actually hated everyone". Of course the "edited excerpt" listed the only people she actually went after, so there's that.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 07, 2023, 04:41:07 PM
No, she's a biological woman - "trans" man.


Oops -- I had it reversed. Sorry.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on November 07, 2023, 05:31:18 PM
You omitted "trans" woman -- probably meaning a male transvestite. And apparently the school had a program of sorts for trying to de-program "transsexual" persons.

The trans part is covered under "mentally ill".
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Tuco on November 07, 2023, 06:17:30 PM
Oops -- I had it reverse. Sorry.
Understandable. Since things have become so difficult, I've transitioned pronouns in uncertain situations to the gender neutral "it".
The trannifesto was uninspiring. Nothing but an expletive laden "to do" list.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on November 08, 2023, 11:20:43 AM
BTW, I looked up the school.  K-6, $16k/yr (https://www.thecovenantschool.com/tuition-financial-aid).  If BSC* Audrey went there, it was a while ago, and she herself is pretty high on the privlidge scale.

Just wondering when she fell in among loons. 

(*Bat S*** Crazy)
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 11:25:37 AM
she herself is pretty high on the privlidge scale.

As often seems to fit a pattern. Seems the people screaming the loudest and going off their rocker about ____ privilege are often compared to many, if not most, people quite privileged
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on November 08, 2023, 11:58:03 AM
BTW, I looked up the school.  K-6, $16k/yr (https://www.thecovenantschool.com/tuition-financial-aid).  If BSC* Audrey went there, it was a while ago, and she herself is pretty high on the privlidge scale.

Just wondering when she fell in among loons. 

(*Bat S*** Crazy)
I haven't heard anyone do anything but speculate on that.  I heard she was trying to "transition" and was likely on hormone and likely other psychotropic drug(s).  All that probably doesn't have a positive impact on your thinking. 
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: lee n. field on November 08, 2023, 12:00:51 PM
I haven't heard anyone do anything but speculate on that.  I heard she was trying to "transition" and was likely on hormone and likely other psychotropic drug(s).  All that probably doesn't have a positive impact on your thinking.
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So, every day is potentially a "trans day of rage"?
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on November 08, 2023, 01:47:07 PM
I am the last person to speak on what various drugs can do to you.   =|
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on November 09, 2023, 08:05:08 AM
7 officers placed on admin assignment as investigation into leak of Covenant School shooter’s writings continues, police say
https://www.wsmv.com/2023/11/08/7-officers-placed-leave-investigation-into-leak-covenant-school-shooters-writings-continues-police-say/
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 09, 2023, 10:16:37 AM
I heard that 7700 transgender unicorn-selves have already committed suicide over the leaking of the manifesto. I blame Trump.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: cordex on November 09, 2023, 10:19:18 AM
I heard that 7700 transgender unicorn-selves have already committed suicide over the leaking of the manifesto. I blame Trump.
That number is down from the typical weekday.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on November 09, 2023, 10:23:04 AM
As long as they don't decide to take a bunch of people with them.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on November 09, 2023, 11:51:19 AM
7 officers placed on admin assignment as investigation into leak of Covenant School shooter’s writings continues, police say
https://www.wsmv.com/2023/11/08/7-officers-placed-leave-investigation-into-leak-covenant-school-shooters-writings-continues-police-say/
At the beginning of Crowder's debate stream, he said their source was not paid and has not been relieved of duty.  He probably shouldn't have said that, but if true that means they have no idea who leaked it.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: sumpnz on November 09, 2023, 04:02:29 PM
At the beginning of Crowder's debate stream, he said their source was not paid and has not been relieved of duty.  He probably shouldn't have said that, but if true that means they have no idea who leaked it.

Or it's just misdirection on LWC's part
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 24, 2024, 10:31:28 AM
Completely forget everything else she said, her single use of the word *Not nice word for gay men* proves she was extreme far right just like all other mass shooters.
Yeah, you can't make this stuff up

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    HOLY SHLIT. The ADL says they’re not classifying the far-left Nashville Trans Shooter as a Left-Wing Extremist because she used the word “f*gg*t.”

    They claim every extremist-related m*rder in 2023 was done by right-wingers.

    The ADL is a far-left propaganda arm for the… pic.twitter.com/plV8xsBcUW
    — Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) February 23, 2024

ADL Refuses to Classify Audrey Hale as a Left-Wing Extremist, Claims All Shooters Are 'Right-Wing'
https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2024/02/24/adl-refuses-to-classify-audrey-hale-as-a-left-wing-extremist-claims-all-shooters-are-right-wing-n2393224

As a side note: Rather interesting how the site censored the word f a g g o t to *Not nice word for gay men*
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: cordex on February 24, 2024, 10:34:54 AM
WLJ, you can disable the site censor. That is a user level setting.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 24, 2024, 10:35:45 AM
WLJ, you can disable the site censor. That is a user level setting.

I know, I leave it on because I find the effect amusing at times.
I found the way the site censored this one oddly specific in the way it did it.  Usually it just changes it to "*expletive deleted* then the last two letters.
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 18, 2024, 01:46:20 PM
Full release of the shooter's writings is now jammed up in copyright law. Yes you read that right.

Release of Covenant School Killer's Writings Could Hinge on... Copyright Law? 
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024/04/18/release-of-covenant-school-killers-writings-could-hinge-on-copyright-law-n1224567
Title: Re: Nashville Elementary School Shooting
Post by: WLJ on April 18, 2024, 05:01:55 PM
Audrey Hale wannabe

Breaking: 'Transgender' Student in Maryland Wrote 129-Page Manifesto, Planned to Shoot Up School
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/04/18/transgender-student-in-maryland-wrote-129-page-manifesto-planned-to-shoot-up-school-n2395265

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Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈
@MrAndyNgo
Another trans person is charged over plans to carry out a mass shooting. Andrea Ye, who uses the name “Alex,” was arrested by Montgomery County Police in Maryland. Ye allegedly planned to shoot an elementary school, similar to the Nashville trans shooter.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1781045110198673599