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Title: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 07:11:06 PM
Reported multiple  victims including children.
Shooter loose in the mall

Developing story


Texas authorities respond to Allen Premium Outlets shooting near Dallas
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-authorities-respond-reported-outlet-mall-shooting
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 07:13:45 PM
"Shooter is down"

Allen Premium Outlets Shooting: Shooter 'down,' multiple casualties, congressman says
https://www.fox4news.com/news/allen-premium-outlets-shooting
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 07:16:16 PM
'Cops kill active shooter and hunt second gunman' after deadly shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Texas as dead bodies lie covered on the ground and shoppers troop out the mall with their hands on their head
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12055177/Multiple-victims-reported-shot-active-shooter-Allen-Premium-Outlets.html

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/06/23/70674807-12055177-image-m-12_1683411705161.jpg)
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 06, 2023, 08:08:48 PM
It's getting out of control, and I don't blame the guns, the NRA, or Trump. I blame the Democrats, for making mass shootings such a focal point that every nutcase in the world now has to go out and shoot up a mall or a school.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: HeroHog on May 06, 2023, 08:41:07 PM
I'm telling ya, as we approach the presidential elections, the shootings seem to increase.  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 06, 2023, 09:06:32 PM
I'm telling ya, as we approach the presidential elections, the shootings seem to increase.  [tinfoil]

Probably just a coincidence ...  >:D
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 10:17:10 PM
Texas gunman dressed as SWAT is shot dead by cops after killing 'multiple people' including CHILDREN - as bodies lie under sheets at Allen Premium Outlets: Shooter had tactical vest, armor and multiple magazines for assault weapon
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12055177/Multiple-victims-reported-shot-active-shooter-Allen-Premium-Outlets.html

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Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Bogie on May 06, 2023, 10:21:43 PM
So, what do we know about him (assuming pronoun...)?
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 10:22:16 PM
So, what do we know about him (assuming pronoun...)?


Zip so far
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 10:24:20 PM
Got out of his car and started shooting

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Junior Tamir
@JuinorTamir
This is the apparent dashcam video of the Allen, Texas shooting.

*Viewer Discretion Advised*

https://twitter.com/JuinorTamir/status/1654987376425328640
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 10:28:43 PM
9 confirmed dead
Shooter was taken out by a police office present on an unrelated call. Probably would have been much worse otherwise.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-authorities-respond-reported-outlet-mall-shooting
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 06, 2023, 10:31:19 PM
What the *expletive deleted*ck is wrong with people?
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Lennyjoe on May 06, 2023, 10:45:10 PM
Hispanic make with some questionable tattoos.  One on left hand seems to be gang related.  More to follow I’m sure but that’s what I’m seeing on Twitter (unverified claims)
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Ben on May 07, 2023, 08:10:25 AM
This seems to be another one where the longer we have to wait for information, the more likely it will be that it will disappear from the news cycle because the shooter is the wrong demographic.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Boomhauer on May 07, 2023, 08:43:52 AM
I’m sure this meme will become true soon

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Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 08:50:46 AM
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Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Jim147 on May 07, 2023, 09:16:11 AM
Gun free zone and shooter yelling all white people should die. This will be out of the news quick.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 09:23:13 AM
Gun free zone and shooter yelling all white people should die. This will be out of the news quick.

Got a source for that?
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 09:25:54 AM
If true this is also from yesterday

Black man charged with murdering two White strangers in Oklahoma because of their race
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black-man-charged-murdering-two-white-strangers-oklahoma-because-race

Mostly crickets in the MSM
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 10:02:45 AM
So far all I've found on the shooter

In his 30s
Lived with his parents. & police needed a translator to speak to them
Always wore some kind of security guard uniform

Who was the Allen outlet mall shooter? Here's what we know so far
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/who-was-allen-outlet-mall-shooter-what-we-know/287-6e49cb7a-304e-43fa-b791-990ea8780f28

As a side note this may be slowing down the outflow of info

"Dallas Police Department computers are still down after the city’s system was attacked by ransomware on Wednesday, so it’s hard for them get information on prior calls to the home, they say."
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 10:44:37 AM
Same photo of the shooter as above but without the head blurred out. Looks like a head shot. From the condition of the sun glasses maybe right through the right eye?
Includes a discussion of the hand tattoo. Some are saying it's the City of Dallas logo, From the photos further down looks like it to me.

Warning: Could be disturbing to some

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1655037305793519616
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 07, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
So far all I've found on the shooter

In his 30s
Lived with his parents. & police needed a translator to speak to them
Always wore some kind of security guard uniform

Who was the Allen outlet mall shooter? Here's what we know so far
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/who-was-allen-outlet-mall-shooter-what-we-know/287-6e49cb7a-304e-43fa-b791-990ea8780f28

As a side note this may be slowing down the outflow of info

"Dallas Police Department computers are still down after the city’s system was attacked by ransomware on Wednesday, so it’s hard for them get information on prior calls to the home, they say."

Damned convenient that.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 12:52:39 PM
No motive but it must be right wing in nature because isn't it always?

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As authorities work to determine a motive for the outlet mall shooting in Allen, Texas, one avenue investigators are exploring is whether this was an act of domestic terrorism, multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News.

The shooter wore patches or stickers on his clothing that raised suspicion he may have gravitated toward right-wing extremism, the sources said, though they added no motive has yet been established.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/allen-texas-mall-shooting/?id=98206687
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Jim147 on May 07, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
Turns out what they said he said is uncomfimed at this point.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 02:36:21 PM
Okay, something is going on
3 mass killings in Texas In just the past week. All by Hispanics. At least the driver appears to be Hispanic

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It's understood that the group were congregating at a bus stop near the shelter in the early morning when the SUV plowed into them. 

Lt. Martin Sandoval announced that the driver was charged with reckless driving - and confirmed that it was looking like an intentional act.

SUV driver 'intentionally plows into crowd outside a Texas migrant and homeless shelter - killing at least seven and injuring six others
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056967/At-six-people-killed-car-rams-people-outside-Texas-migrant-shelter.html
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 03:02:54 PM
Finally released a name

Dallas mall shooting: Texas law enforcement identify suspected shooter
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dallas-mall-shooting-texas-law-enforcement-identify-suspected-shooter
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 04:51:19 PM
They are so freaking predictable

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    The gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, was a man in his early 30s who may have had white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday. https://t.co/REySbv8vim

    — The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) May 7, 2023

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Authorities have not released a motive, but a patch on his chest said “RWDS,” an acronym that stands for Right Wing Death Squad, according to people familiar with the investigation. The phrase is popular among right wing extremists, neo-Nazis and white supremacists, they said. In addition to the weapons found on his body, investigators found another five guns inside his car nearby, these people said.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/07/wapo-claims-allen-shooter-mauricio-garcia-had-white-supremacist-beliefs-and-lol-we-got-nothin/

"people familiar with the investigation"
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: BobR on May 07, 2023, 04:51:37 PM
So far the reporting has mentioned white-supremacy, neo-Nazi beliefs and a patch that has RWDS (Right Wing Death Squad) along with "body armor" which is probably a tactical vest of some sorts. The right wing lean is getting plenty of publicity in just a matter of hours. Meanwhile what do we know of the Nashville, Louisville and Atlanta shootings and shooters?

bob

edit: scooped by seconds, the life of a lonely reporter
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on May 07, 2023, 05:13:00 PM
https://rwdsystems.com/
Rapid Weapon Deployment Systems

http://rwds.ps/en/index.cfm
Rural Women’s Development Society

https://rwdsramnad.org/
Rural Workers Development Society

https://www.abbreviations.com/RWDS
Reclaimed Water Distribution System
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on May 07, 2023, 05:25:57 PM
They are so freaking predictable
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/07/wapo-claims-allen-shooter-mauricio-garcia-had-white-supremacist-beliefs-and-lol-we-got-nothin/

"people familiar with the investigation"

Must be one of those evil white Hispanic supremacists.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 07, 2023, 05:33:33 PM
How much you want ti bet most if not all of the victims were white?
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: BobR on May 07, 2023, 05:54:03 PM
How much you want ti bet most if not all of the victims were white?

We will know soon, their pictures and names will be plastered all over the media as victims of right wing inspired gun violence fueled by Republican indifference to the violence swirling around them as they refuse to "ban all the guns".

bob
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Boomhauer on May 07, 2023, 09:18:25 PM
I’m sure the Feebs who put him up to this supplied the right wing patches and paraphernalia.

Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on May 07, 2023, 11:13:20 PM
I saw a comment elsewhere:  According to the media, MS-13 gang members are now considered white supremacists.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Pb on May 08, 2023, 09:50:42 AM
I bet we are going to see at least one copycat mass murder attempt within a week.   =(

Anyone want to take me up on it? 
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: RocketMan on May 08, 2023, 09:51:57 AM
I bet we are going to see at least one copycat mass murder attempt within a week.   =(

Anyone want to take me up on it?

Nope.  Bad odds.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 10:34:35 AM
I saw a comment elsewhere:  According to the media, MS-13 gang members are now considered white supremacists.

Whatever is convenient for them to push the narrative and allow them to greatly bump up the "white supremacist" crime stats, reality be damned.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 10:48:42 AM
Some other weirdness going on here. Usually we would know the names and have info on the victims by now. I haven't seen a single thing on even just one.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 11:39:42 AM
Supposedly he was kicked out of the Army for mental issues

REVEALED: Neo-Nazi Texas mall gunman Mauricio Garcia, 33, is security guard with shooter training who was removed from the Army in 2008 over 'mental health' concerns
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12059365/Neo-Nazi-Texas-mall-shooter-Mauricio-Garcia-removed-Army-mental-health-concerns.html
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Lennyjoe on May 08, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Supposedly he was kicked out of the Army for mental issues

REVEALED: Neo-Nazi Texas mall gunman Mauricio Garcia, 33, is security guard with shooter training who was removed from the Army in 2008 over 'mental health' concerns
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12059365/Neo-Nazi-Texas-mall-shooter-Mauricio-Garcia-removed-Army-mental-health-concerns.html

So we’re his firearms “legally” purchased?
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 12:13:06 PM
So we’re his firearms “legally” purchased?

In my best The Critical Drinker voice, Don't Know

Still haven't found out where the Louisville Old National Bank shooter, who had mental issues and was supposedly getting treatment, got his gun. All the media has said is from a local gun dealer but his mother said from his "girl" friend.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Ben on May 08, 2023, 12:18:34 PM
Not to get political, but they started it.

MSM interviews "first responder":

https://youtu.be/EKXnFtQwqyw

Who he actually is:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/08/twitter-sleuths-find-msnbc-gun-grabbing-allen-shooting-eye-witness-and-well-well-well-whadya-know/
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 09:15:41 PM
Supposedly him
May have, or had,  a Hispanic Neo-Nazi on our hands.
Many of the photos of the so called Nazis look more goofy than anything else.
Also some photos of some of the victims. Not white.

REVEALED: Texas gunman staked out massacre mall to monitor peak times three weeks before killing eight and posted details on Russian social media alongside photos of Nazis, guns and ammunition
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12060611/Texas-gunman-staked-massacre-mall-monitor-peak-times-three-weeks-killing-eight.html

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/08/23/70745497-12060611-Posts_also_show_a_series_of_shirtless_pictures_with_white_power_-m-1_1683585223276.jpg)
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 09:29:15 PM
If there is a hell I hope he's got a special place there.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 08, 2023, 09:35:25 PM
How much you want ti bet most if not all of the victims were white?

But ... were they SUPREMELY white?
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 09:38:27 PM
How much you want ti bet most if not all of the victims were white?

But ... were they SUPREMELY white?

so far the photos I've seen they were not. So scratch my above statment
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 08, 2023, 09:41:50 PM
Not to get political, but they started it.

MSM interviews "first responder":

https://youtu.be/EKXnFtQwqyw

Who he actually is:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/08/twitter-sleuths-find-msnbc-gun-grabbing-allen-shooting-eye-witness-and-well-well-well-whadya-know/

And from the Twitchy link:

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    Also, he wasn’t at the mall when the shooting happened. He heard about the shooting and rushed to the scene. It’s almost like he was looking for some air time.

    — Rafaella Gabriela Sarsaparilla (@magic_mom14) May 8, 2023

Sounds a lot like the Parklands shooting "survivor" -- David "Hahvahd man" Hogg, who wasn't anywhere near the actual shooting and didn't "survive" anything.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 09:47:32 PM
Says bought most of his guns from private sellers

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The AR-15 rifle used in the Texas mall shooting was among multiple weapons that were legally purchased by gunman Mauricio Garcia, according to a report.

A law enforcement source told CNN Monday the weapons were mostly bought from private sellers, which is legal in Texas.

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Because Garcia bought the gun through a private seller, he could evade a background check, according to CNN.

So you know where this is going

Texas mall mass shooter Mauricio Garcia bought AR-15, other weapons legally: report
https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/texas-mall-shooter-mauricio-garcia-bought-guns-legally-report/
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 09:53:22 PM
Supposedly his

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/allen-texas-mall-shooting-news-05-08-23/index.html
(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/5505fe94-809c-4928-bbb1-05b676bf74fb.JPG)
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Ben on May 08, 2023, 10:08:06 PM
Supposedly his

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/allen-texas-mall-shooting-news-05-08-23/index.html
[img]https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/5505fe94-809c-4928-bbb1-05b676bf74fb.JPG

So from that single CNN article (maybe written by an AI?) we have:

Atrocious wounds
Gruesome wounds
Vicious wounds
Vile amount of blood
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2023, 10:13:08 PM
So from that single CNN article (maybe written by an AI?) we have:

Atrocious wounds
Gruesome wounds
Vicious wounds
Vile amount of blood

Yeah, noticed the rather colorful language
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Ben on May 09, 2023, 10:18:42 AM
I mentioned Bellingcat in the Ukraine war thread:

https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=65946.msg1396768#msg1396768

They seem to be involved here too.  [tinfoil]

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/09/andy-ngo-sheds-light-on-bizarre-reporting-about-allen-tx-mass-shooter-garcia-in-thread-receipts/
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
We're trying to understand him
The left is trying to use him
Meanwhile he is proving to be one *expletive deleted*ed up individual
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2023, 11:53:49 AM
Blame everyone and everything but the shooter.

Libs of TikTok Appears to Have 'Inspired' a Social Media Post by Texas Mass Shooter
https://www.advocate.com/crime/libs-of-tiktok-allen-shooter

Tim Pool & LibsofTikTok BLAMED For Tragedy In Texas By Slimy Journalists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDHmwg-WN1w
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2023, 10:11:55 PM
We're trying to understand him
The left is trying to use him
Meanwhile he is proving to be one *expletive deleted*ed up individual

Case in point

REVEALED: Nazi influenced gunman Mauricio Garcia, 33, posted time-delayed video of him removing a 'Scream' mask to reveal his identity hours AFTER the mall massacre - grinning as he said 'not quite what you were expecting, huh?'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12063957/Texas-gunman-posted-time-delayed-sickening-video-reveal-identity-hours-massacre.html
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 15, 2023, 10:21:45 AM
And from the Twitchy link:

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Quote
        Also, he wasn’t at the mall when the shooting happened. He heard about the shooting and rushed to the scene. It’s almost like he was looking for some air time.

        — Rafaella Gabriela Sarsaparilla (@magic_mom14) May 8, 2023

Sounds a lot like the Parklands shooting "survivor" -- David "Hahvahd man" Hogg, who wasn't anywhere near the actual shooting and didn't "survive" anything.

More on our "hero" "witness" and very vocal gun control advocate's story

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“Allen Police Department wants to inform the public of discrepancies with statements made by a witness to several media outlets. Following the shooting at Allen Premium Outlets, Mr. Steven Spainhouer of McKinney, Texas gave multiple public accounts of his actions,” the statement read. “Inconsistencies between these public accounts and investigative facts led Allen Police Department to conduct a follow-up interview. During this interview, detectives determined that Mr. Spainhouer is not a credible incident witness.”

According to the police department, “Mr. Spainhouer arrived between 3:44 and 3:52 p.m. and was not first on the scene, nor was he on the property while gunfire was occurring.” The department also said that Spainhouer “did not perform Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (CPR) or administer first aid” and “did not move a deceased mother who was covering a live child.”
Police and witness give contradictory accounts of response to Texas mall shooting
https://www.kwtx.com/2023/05/14/police-witness-give-contradictory-accounts-response-texas-mall-shooting/

Police say gun control supporter not credible witness to Texas mall attack
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023/05/15/police-say-gun-control-supporter-not-credible-witness-to-texas-mall-attack-n70460

Wonder if he'll be coming out with a pillow soon?
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: Ben on May 15, 2023, 10:28:31 AM
Wonder if he'll be coming out with a pillow soon?

That will be 100X more likely than CNN and MSNBC correcting their original stories.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 15, 2023, 10:40:16 AM
That will be 100X more likely than CNN and MSNBC correcting their original stories.

Higher chance of seeing a Blue Origin orbital flight.
Title: Re: Texas Outlet Mall Shooting
Post by: WLJ on May 22, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
Guess the narrative hasn't been panning out like they wanted.
Thus https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PcWosknOSbk