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Title: More transgender sports news
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 22, 2023, 01:06:04 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12109103/California-high-school-athlete-gives-thumbs-4th-place-finish-trans-competitor-took-2nd.html

Another real female has been denied an opportunity to compete in her state's track championship because she came in fourth in a qualifying race in which the second-place finisher was a transgender "female."

I simply do not comprehend how Democrats can be so solidly in lock step in supporting this lunacy. Don't any Democratic politicians have daughters who compete in sports?
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: sumpnz on May 22, 2023, 03:05:49 AM
The only way this will stop is when ALL legitimate female athletes refuse to take part when up against a transgender.  Not just boycotting the podium ceremony (like the cyclists recently did) but straight up refusing to register in the first place or refusing to take part if they only find out after the registration deadline.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: griz on May 22, 2023, 03:36:37 AM
Apparently it's not that easy to define what a female athlete is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_verification_in_sports

But something tells me that they aren't checking testosterone levels in women's high school sports.  It seems simple to me, if you acknowledge that women's sports categories are because it's unfair for them to compete against men, then why let someone compete as a woman just because she recently identifies as one. 

Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: HankB on May 22, 2023, 06:59:47 AM
Female impersonators are not women. People who say otherwise are either liars or insane.

The only way this will stop is when ALL legitimate female athletes refuse to take part when up against a transgender.  Not just boycotting the podium ceremony (like the cyclists recently did) but straight up refusing to register in the first place or refusing to take part if they only find out after the registration deadline.

Hear hear.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: Pb on May 22, 2023, 09:30:21 AM
Wokeism functions like a religion.  It provides its followers a coherent worldview, and a sense of self-righteousness.  It is also immune to critical thought and can be used to justify the most monstrous things, just like any cult.

Anyone who believes that some women have pensises, and that children should be castrated is clearly demonstrating a pseudo-religious faith.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 22, 2023, 02:50:25 PM
But something tells me that they aren't checking testosterone levels in women's high school sports.  It seems simple to me, if you acknowledge that women's sports categories are because it's unfair for them to compete against men, then why let someone compete as a woman just because she he recently identifies as one.

FIFY
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: gunsmith on May 26, 2023, 02:50:50 PM
Wokeism functions like a religion.  It provides its followers a coherent worldview, and a sense of self-righteousness.  It is also immune to critical thought and can be used to justify the most monstrous things, just like any cult.

Anyone who believes that some women have pensises, and that children should be castrated is clearly demonstrating a pseudo-religious faith.

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Don't any Democratic politicians have daughters who compete in sports?

  It's a religion, pure simple religious faith.
It's only looks like a new religion, but before Europeans came to the New World, people sacrificed children - even their own children - to their religion. ( Aztec's )
Probably before Judaism & Christianity it was done in other parts of the western world , the human sacrifices of the Druids is well known ( I'm not claiming expertise in religion or anthropology tho )
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: Pb on May 26, 2023, 09:57:57 PM
I also think there is little that is really new here. I think much of what we are seeing is a reversion to the paganism... like Greece and Rome before Christianity.

Bisexuality was completely normal and expected.
Sexual exploitation of children was also normal.
Killing unwanted babies was morally unobjectionable.
Suicide was just fine.
Transvestitism was acceptable (part of some religious cults)
All religions were "true"... except those of the intolerant Jews and Christians who denied the rest of the religions.  Intolerance was the only thing they did not tolerate. 

Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 27, 2023, 11:19:28 PM
that there above is the answer to that there below

  It's a religion, pure simple religious faith.
It's only looks like a new religion, but before Europeans came to the New World, people sacrificed children - even their own children - to their religion. ( Aztec's )
Probably before Judaism & Christianity it was done in other parts of the western world , the human sacrifices of the Druids is well known ( I'm not claiming expertise in religion or anthropology tho )

Children were also sacrificed in the ancient Near East. The worship of Moloch was especially known for this, as recounted in the Old Testament.

A lot of the more extreme stuff on the Left could be explained as the deliberate shredding of our families and culture, to enable a take-over (either from within or without). Or the same thing, but directed by Satan - and I mean that literally.

I'm guessing it's both.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: gunsmith on May 28, 2023, 04:42:56 PM
Children were also sacrificed in the ancient Near East. The worship of Moloch was especially known for this, as recounted in the Old Testament.

A lot of the more extreme stuff on the Left could be explained as the deliberate shredding of our families and culture, to enable a take-over (either from within or without). Or the same thing, but directed by Satan - and I mean that literally.

I'm guessing it's both.

I tend to agree with you here,sometimes, I look at it as a power vacuum. Lack of wisdom leads these dolts to perdition, they get rid of societies norms and traditions thinking it will be a utopia, a sort of workers paradise with boring college professors advising everyone and themselves as middle management & instead we have Nimrods hunting children with no one to say "NO" to them

Sometimes It really does seem as if Satan is seeking the gullible and disguising him/her self as a he/she and a clown , prodding his blind believers to sacrifice their own flesh and blood - like maybe, the old "gods" like moloch were really just his demons and they're having a resurgence because very few are left to say "NO"
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: gunsmith on May 28, 2023, 04:44:10 PM
IDK if Britney Griener is a trans or just looks like one, but she's been standing for the nat anthem
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: lee n. field on May 28, 2023, 05:30:02 PM
that there above is the answer to that there below

  It's a religion, pure simple religious faith.
It's only looks like a new religion, but before Europeans came to the New World, people sacrificed children - even their own children - to their religion. ( Aztec's )
Probably before Judaism & Christianity it was done in other parts of the western world , the human sacrifices of the Druids is well known ( I'm not claiming expertise in religion or anthropology tho )

Done by ancient Israel's neighbors.  And sometimes by Israelites themselves.  At least one of their kings is recorded as having "passed his son through the fire."
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: sumpnz on May 28, 2023, 10:18:03 PM
IDK if Britney Griener is a trans or just looks like one, but she's been standing for the nat anthem

Not trans.  Just a very butch lesbian.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: HankB on May 29, 2023, 08:17:15 AM
The only way this will stop is when ALL legitimate female athletes refuse to take part when up against a transgender.  Not just boycotting the podium ceremony (like the cyclists recently did) but straight up refusing to register in the first place or refusing to take part if they only find out after the registration deadline.
Thinking a little more about this . . . I'm surprised this hasn't already happened at the high school level. Back in the day when administrators did something outrageous, we still got the word out and there were concerted efforts by the student body to not comply. And this was pre-internet. WIth all the social media available today, I really don't know why today's students are still putting up with this cr@p. If - nationwide - HS girls co-ordinated to just started walking off the field en masse when a female impersonator walked on, that would bring the issue to a head and the insane wokesters would be discredited.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: sumpnz on May 29, 2023, 10:41:45 AM
Thinking a little more about this . . . I'm surprised this hasn't already happened at the high school level. Back in the day when administrators did something outrageous, we still got the word out and there were concerted efforts by the student body to not comply. And this was pre-internet. WIth all the social media available today, I really don't know why today's students are still putting up with this cr@p. If - nationwide - HS girls co-ordinated to just started walking off the field en masse when a female impersonator walked on, that would bring the issue to a head and the insane wokesters would be discredited.

The reason why is the insane social pressure to not be “transphobic” plus fear of losing scholarship opportunities.  But I agree, a few incidents of all real girls en mass walking out when an imposter takes the field would probably work.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: WLJ on May 29, 2023, 10:55:18 AM
The reason why is the insane social pressure to not be “transphobic” plus fear of losing scholarship opportunities.  But I agree, a few incidents of all real girls en mass walking out when an imposter takes the field would probably work.

Honesty I don't see that working without a strong outside force coming down on the schools and I don't see that happening with our current government at least in the near future. The people pushing this stuff in the schools are doing so with a religious like fervor that would make the Spanish inquisition blush and they're going to stay there doing it even if it means burning the school down in the process.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: zxcvbob on May 29, 2023, 11:18:07 AM
The reason why is the insane social pressure to not be “transphobic” plus fear of losing scholarship opportunities.  But I agree, a few incidents of all real girls en mass walking out when an imposter takes the field would probably work.

Fear of being expelled and/or prosecuted for a "hate crime".
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: sumpnz on May 29, 2023, 11:21:48 AM
I think a school would have a hard time expelling an entire sports team, and a prosecutor wouldn’t want that publicity.  A single student?  Sure.  30-100 students?  Not so much.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: HankB on May 29, 2023, 12:30:50 PM
I think a school would have a hard time expelling an entire sports team, and a prosecutor wouldn’t want that publicity.  A single student?  Sure.  30-100 students?  Not so much.
When I was in HS, one of the football coaches tried to pull some cr@p he shouldn't have, and benched a couple of starters who wouldn't comply. At the next game, the entire team just sat down and refused to take the field. Much discord on the sidelines, but the coach in question was over-ruled by the other coaches and the team - the WHOLE team - ended up playing the game. No violence, but they showed they were an actual TEAM, not just a bunch of boys.  (To be fair, as our team was one of the league's doormats, no athletic scholarships were in jeopardy.)

As for prosecutions - I don't see an actual, statutory crime if a bunch of girls walked off the field if a guy walked on to compete against them. ESPECIALLY if this was at an inter mural event and girls from SEVERAL schools walked off.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: Pb on May 29, 2023, 02:03:47 PM
I expect female athletes would face a lot of retaliation from woke students their own age.  The pressure to conform is immense.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: JTHunter on May 29, 2023, 07:35:29 PM
I expect female athletes would face a lot of retaliation from woke students their own age.  The pressure to conform is immense.

That is why it is called "peer pressure".
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: gunsmith on May 29, 2023, 08:42:28 PM
https://youtu.be/g4ytdOkOn3g

sports guy on the subject, really good video on the subject.

he plays an interview with the boy, he sounds like a teen boy because ( lo and behold ) he is hahahahahah
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: HankB on May 30, 2023, 07:22:37 AM
I expect female athletes would face a lot of retaliation from woke students their own age.  The pressure to conform is immense.
In a large group, retaliate right back. They'd probably be joined by more students who WEREN'T wokesters and are also sick and tired of this cr@p.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: dogmush on May 30, 2023, 08:26:06 AM
You folks are assuming that all, or even a large majority of, the teenaged girl athletes don't think that the trans kids should be playing with them.  While there are certainly a handful of vocal nay-sayers, that demographic is as close to peak woke as exists in the US.  Trying to organize a strike against a trans athlete in your average high school girls sports team might be a losing battle.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: Ben on May 30, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
You folks are assuming that all, or even a large majority of, the teenaged girl athletes don't think that the trans kids should be playing with them.  While there are certainly a handful of vocal nay-sayers, that demographic is as close to peak woke as exists in the US.  Trying to organize a strike against a trans athlete in your average high school girls sports team might be a losing battle.

I can agree with that regarding High Schoolers in general, but I think things change when a dick walks into the girl's locker room. I think even the woke female teenage athletes are uncomfortable with naked males showering next to them.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: HankB on May 30, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
I can agree with that regarding High Schoolers in general, but I think things change when a dick walks into the girl's locker room. I think even the woke female teenage athletes are uncomfortable with naked males showering next to them.
What he said.

It's easy to be woke, liberal, or whatever in the abstract, but when the result hits you right in your own face . . . attitudes can change pretty quick.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: dogmush on May 30, 2023, 11:44:08 AM
I agree in theory, but it doesn't seem to be happening.

There was that one sorority who had a creepy MFer move in, Riley Gaines, the fourth place thumbs down girl.......and crickets.

I don't discount the peer pressure effect you discussed above, but I'd bet money the majority of high school and college girls aren't upset by this.  Or if they are upset, it's more important to them to be "good allies".  Don't hold your breath waiting for entire teams to boycott is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: MillCreek on May 30, 2023, 12:20:21 PM
I agree completely with Dogmush.  We must be cautious in assuming that society as a whole or certain demographics shares the beliefs of this group on this subject.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: sumpnz on May 30, 2023, 12:45:06 PM
I certainly never meant to imply they would boycott competitions. Just that probably nothing would end the insanity short of that happening.
Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: MillCreek on June 02, 2023, 09:00:11 PM
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Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: K Frame on June 03, 2023, 12:37:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofyMrLnYrXc

Title: Re: More transgender sports news
Post by: WLJ on June 03, 2023, 12:49:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofyMrLnYrXc

What used to be satire you're now called a bigot for not embracing.