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Title: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: MillCreek on March 26, 2024, 10:51:50 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/1bnrqos/midwesterners_southerners_and_missourians_lets/

A couple of threads on the geography Reddit debating this.  What says the Collective, especially those who live there?
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 26, 2024, 11:44:12 AM
It's half-and-half. Southern Missouri is the South. The northern half is in the Midwest.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 26, 2024, 11:47:42 AM
It's half-and-half. Southern Missouri is the South. The northern half is in the Midwest.

According to my father, Ft Leonard Wood is neither. He did advanced training there in January, 62. To hear him talk, it's somewhere between Siberia and the ass-end of the moon.

Brad
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: WLJ on March 26, 2024, 12:01:47 PM
According to my father, Ft Leonard Wood is neither. He did advanced training there in January, 62. To hear him talk, it's somewhere between Siberia and the ass-end of the moon.

Brad

Ft. Lost in the Woods
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: dogmush on March 26, 2024, 12:10:10 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: lee n. field on March 26, 2024, 01:41:00 PM
Yes.

The line is accurate for Illinois.  Below that line, the character of the state is quite different.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Nick1911 on March 26, 2024, 01:47:55 PM
Living in the KC region, I consider both Kansas and Missouri as Midwest.  However, I'm not sure how someone living in Springfield would classify that part of the state.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 26, 2024, 02:02:11 PM
According to my father, Ft Leonard Wood is neither. He did advanced training there in January, 62. To hear him talk, it's somewhere between Siberia and the ass-end of the moon.

Brad

You may notice that young people who go to any military base or college anywhere* think it's the most dull and boring place on earth.


*unless they're going to school in downtown NYC or Miami, or something.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 26, 2024, 02:06:00 PM
The Outlaw Josey Wales (We are Jayhawkers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtUL5Rx364

"..anything from Missouri has a taint about it..."

Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 26, 2024, 02:06:48 PM
I live in the St. Louis area. People an hour's drive south of here sound like they're from Arkansas.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Jim147 on March 26, 2024, 02:35:49 PM
I live in the St. Louis area. People an hour's drive south of here sound like they're from Arkansas.

Thats the troops from Leonard wood.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 26, 2024, 03:18:27 PM
Thats the troops from Leonard wood.

You need to look at a map, son.  =)
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: JTHunter on March 26, 2024, 11:20:46 PM
IIRC, Union troops were stationed in the St. Louis area due to government fears of a Rebel take-over that might block the Mississippi river.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: grampster on March 27, 2024, 07:18:03 AM
In order for me to decide, you'll have to Show Me.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2024, 07:55:36 AM
When you get done figuring out where Missouri is figure out where Kentucky is.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Ben on March 27, 2024, 07:58:35 AM
When you get done figuring out where Missouri is figure out when Kentucky is.

Same place as Babylon 4.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2024, 08:01:47 AM
Note to self: Don't post until I've at least finished the first cup of coffee.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 27, 2024, 11:05:13 AM
When you get done figuring out where Missouri is figure out where Kentucky is.

Southeast of Missouri. Duh.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Jim147 on March 27, 2024, 02:08:17 PM
You need to look at a map, son.  =)

Fine that's southwest of you.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Bogie on March 28, 2024, 01:55:18 AM
Kentucky was a border state - lots of abolitionists, etc... IIRC, Missouri was a slave state/territory...  Lots of former confederates kept fighting based here...
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: JTHunter on March 29, 2024, 02:20:55 PM
The actual "Mason-Dixon line" didn't come that far west.  It ran north along the Delaware/Maryland border, then turned west along the MD/Pennsylvania  border but stopped short of the southwestern corner of Pennsylvania.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: WLJ on March 29, 2024, 02:35:29 PM
Kentucky was a border state - lots of abolitionists, etc... IIRC, Missouri was a slave state/territory...  Lots of former confederates kept fighting based here...

Kentucky was a slave state that at first tried to remain neutral in the war but then sided with the Union. Meanwhile a shadow Confederate government was set up in Bowling Green but no one really paid any attention to it. Didn't stop the CSA from admitting Kentucky as the CSA's 13th state though. Weird situation with Kentucky remaining in the Union while being considered part of the confederacy by the CSA at the same time. The Confederates did capture Frankfort (state capital) for a short while and was the only Union state capital captured by the CSA during the war.
Title: Re: Is Missouri the Midwest or the South?
Post by: Jim147 on March 30, 2024, 02:22:54 PM
Look up The Burnt District for a fun read about where I live. General Order 11.